Mind-Bending Indian History - Secrets Never Heard Before | Surya Roy on Abhijit Chavda Podcast 65
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In this video, we sit down with historian Surya Roy as he shares his extensive research on various aspects of Indian history, including the cultural significance of Vraj Bhumi, the historical landscape of Kurukshetra in Haryana, and the invasion of the Jagannath Temple by Islamic forces. Explore the archaeological excavations conducted by Dr. Shikaripura Ranganatha Rao at Dwarka and the complexities surrounding the chronology of Indian history.
Discover the rich maritime trade history of Orissa, its connections with diverse regions worldwide, and the intriguing narratives surrounding the Marathas in Bengal. Uncover the demographic shifts and fascinating anecdotes that shape the history of Bengal, shedding light on its unique cultural tapestry.
With meticulous attention to detail and scholarly expertise, Surya Roy provides valuable insights into lesser-known aspects of Indian history, offering a nuanced perspective that challenges conventional narratives.
📌Refer To These Chapters To Navigate The Video According To Your Interest:
00:00 - Introduction
01:18 - Surya Roy's Historical Research Areas
01:45 - Exploring Vraj Bhumi
05:11 - Kurukshetra's Six Cities in Haryana
07:06 - Islamic Invasion of Jagannath Temple
17:01 - Navagunjara in Jagannath Temple
25:42 - Challenges in Indian History Chronology
28:00 - Ancient History of Sishupal Garh
31:06 - Orissa's Connection to Mexico & Peru
34:00 - Brahmanda Purana Descriptions
40:01 - Historical Use of Tamed Birds
42:55 - Orissa's Maritime Trades
50:54 - Shipwrecks in Historical Times
54:54 - Events in Vraj & Puri
57:12 - Invasions on Jagannath Temple
1:06:39 - Exile of Jagannath Maha Prabhu
1:10:00 - Jagannath Temple & Konark Sun Temple History
1:19:16 - Maratha Involvement in Orissa & Bengal
1:25:51 - Alivardi Khan’s Deception with the Matartha’s
1:29:09 - Bengal's Popular Narrative about Marathas
1:37:33 - History of Bengal
1:43:40 - Conclusion
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Because of Kalinga has huge elephants , Kalinga king was called Gajapati
Kalinga had a good trading partnership with bali, sumantra, indonesia all those countries there is a age old sotiry of taupoi a young girl whose brothers will go on a sail and she will be harassed by her sister in laws . After 12 years her brothers will come and see her in tattered clothes and punish their wives😢😢
True
Jai kalinga 🚩❤️
As an Odia I am really greatful & 0bliged to Professor Surya Roy & Mr.Abhijit Chavada for giving justice to history of Kalinga which was mostly neglected by so called British Indian scholars in history & anthropology specially from Madras & Calcutta presidency.
Now it seems that Mr.Roy has done a thorough research on it & given due glory to the history of Kalinga. My family belongs to the native village of legendary Biju Pattanayak in Ganjam district now based at Toronto. My maternal grand father was Head master in an Odia School in Rangoon ,before Burma was separated from India 1935.
He went there from Gopalpur port. Ganjam & Chilka Pipli were epicenter of Kalingan maritime Affairs.
"Reclaiming History" is really an interesting subject & praiseworthy as well. Wish you all the best in your endeavor.
Regards
Ranjan Pattanayak
As an odia it feels nice that this is going out to the rest of india.
Islam originated from Mecca but -
India has the second largest Muslim population
India has second most number of mosque
India was partitioned on the name of Islam
So many countries which were a part of India in ancient times are now Islamic countries
50000 temples were demolished during the Islamic rule in India
there are 57 Islamic countries more than 100 Christian countries but no Hindu countries in the world because Hindus are the CEO of secularism only Hindus have taken the responsibility of secularism others are busy in converting people
Still Hindus are secular
The expansion of these two abrahamic religions especially isl@m in India initially it was imperial imposition but after '47 it was clearly a political decision. As far as I understand this islamic system they will continue to grow unless that person on the last row starts to counter it logically at the very beginning. I see very insignificant enthusiasm amongst such Indic person on the ground level.
becoz we are not taught real history n our gurukul system is destroyed. we are divided . we are intensionally made to believe that we are backwards in our believe system , instead our scriptures had everything thing p
every one say india is diverse country but if you consider this podcasts info india is one country and you what that one means so its time to delete the word secular.
Islam and Christianity were expanded in the world via the sword.... today they utilize their political, military and financial power to market their religion using subversive coercion as a tool among impoverished people.....however inspite of all of that their children are today studying and recognizing the nonsense that was paraded as coming from GOD..... this is most evident in Islam which is essentially a primitive, violent and toxic philosophy that will never foster love and humanity for all.
ye saare Hindu margaye sayad
in my childhood my mom used says we are kaivarta kautas. and I always igonre it bcoz caste system. she also mentioned our ancestors are rich business mans. But now after listening sir I am shocked ,how this history of ours is wiped out by foreign forces. Now a days kaivarta also known as Kauta or Behera.
Thanks for the information ❤❤
it is fascinating to know our roots, please ask you Mom for more on this and share it with your Children
do you think the term “caste” is in Sanskrit? It is easy to detect and expose invaders acts of violence which multi-layered. Persecuting Hindus followed loot and plunder, followed by a consistent beating of adopting their culture, later when they were driven away by extraordinary brave few, something more serious happened. They pretended that they are leaving not running out of fear and ensured their “indoctrinated” bhartiya by brown skin (men n women) continue their beat down style of rule ( eg. Nehru) followed by pushed narrative via such leaders for decades. Coming to the point, Bharat had 100% literacy before invasions happened. System of education was Gurukulas where at the end of education, Guru assigned each disciple their “varna” job as per their training based on their skill. Henceforth there was no caste in the system of gurukulas. The term caste is forced in to Bharat as the last colonial weapon via their planted leaders to continue colonial power and rule over bharat and bhartiya absolving their return to original form and therefore stay a subdued civilization once the greatest. Portuguese pushed caste and British propelled whilst congress damaged people of Bharat the most.
I have visited a Jagannath tempple in Mandi, Himachal Pradesh, few hundred meters from the ancient Panchvaktra Temple. The interesting fact is that the said Jagannath Temple was built around 1679-1680s and the priest there claims that the Vigraha in this temple is the oldest Jagannath Vigraha with Balrama and Subhadra as there have been no Naba-Kalebara in this temple in around last 444 years.
Lol ... As a odia i know jaganath temple was rebuilt by King jajati keshari during 949 to 959. But it was first build by thousands before legendary king Indradymna. Lord JAGANATH guided queen Gundicha where to build.
First learn our history and culture then write real facts. All sources are available on internet.
@@sitarampradhan8488 brother, calm down. read first what i wrote, then shout. My comment is not about how old is our puri temple is. It is about the Jagannath temple in Mandi, Himachal Prdesh, which is unexplored and fact that there are many unexplored temples in India dedicated to Shri Jagannath.
Such a fabulous podcast As an odia Khandayat this is first time i heard such in-depth yet simple explanation of kalingan history, no one ever talks about it really appreciate for this podcast hope every odia listen to this now a days very few people know about this this should reach to every odia.
Indeed
Absolutely loved this episode. I totally agree with sir, history shouldn't be biased. And thank you so much for clarifying the role of Marathas in Bengal, we were taught very different history. It was truly eye opening. Would love to see Surya sir again.
In childhood, we used to celebrate "Taapoi" Puja that celebrated the youngest girl child's travails and ultimate win in a family consisting of seven other doting elder brothers. She had to suffer at the hands of jealous sisters-in-law when the bothers were out in the sea,on a regular journey to far off land. The brothers were "Sadhabas" meaning rich traders mainly doing maritime business. As inheritor of this legacy, we had only a sketchy idea of of the maritime history of our ancestors which was turning in to mythology in absence o facts as presented by here. Correct history provides the context to your being and makes you strong. Absence of it, makes you rootless and leaves you as a collection of individuals and not as a nation with a cause. The invading muslims and christians were largely responsible, but not quite. Hopefully, we start from here, afresh.
Thank you for this refreshing episode.
Shaat bhai chompa-Bihar, bengal, Odisha collectively gaur-shared history and culture🌈
We are barely scathing the surface as far as our real history is concerned. Surya Roy sir looks like he is doing his honest best and of course Abhijit chavda sir as always allowing the guest to speak his mind rather than interrupt again and again
Thank you sir for so much information about Odisha's History
I never knew this history about my state Odisha
Mun bi janinathili bhai😅.
No where in our history book it is mentioned
Aja aai kahi na thile? Chhota bele gapa aakar re kahanti.
@@SLLR4594 nai ete history kahi na thile. Bepar , banijya , sadhab pua Katha kahithile. Multan re Surya mandir thila and both Multan and konark has similar geography , ete deep history mo aja aai ta kahi nathile
@@KalingaShashika yes , I agree . In higher education history may be mentioned . But till school level very less historical facts are given. Anyway I passed 10th reading mostly Mughal history .
1:05:44 it is important to clarify here that this is the standard operating procedure of the muslim armies only, and not everyone, then, and even now. Otherwise, sickulars might misinterpret as saying that it was the standard operating procedure of all armies at that time, which was not the case.
Dear Abhijit sir…kindly redo this podcast in hindi…with the respected speaker…for our older generations …it gave me immense pleasure n self respect as an odia….
Odisha/kalinga people even don't know about this. Thank you for discussing about it.
Now that's how you conduct a podcast. Some centrist people should watch and learn!!!
The host decides, how they will conduct their podcast!
Are you talking about Ranveer?
Thank you so much for giving so much information about Kalinga # Odisha my home land ❤
The best ever Indian history video I have seen ! Hats off...🎉 Hope more and more research will be done on these so that the this true history comes into the so-called mainstream history.
Hope this all comes into history books for our present generation and Bollywood and in regional language movies Kautilya and all greatness of Indian ancestors cities
So much in depth knowledge
Abhijeet always comes with gems of experts 🙏🏻
Beautiful podcast sir , very much needed
Mind blowing things . We need more of this
It seems year's of research required to retrieve the lost glory. Thanks to people who are putting their efforts behind this.
Infinite knowledge ❤ / Shocking revelation by Roy Sir
Thank you Chavda Sir
Gained so much knowledge about our rich odia history . Thankyou
Couldn’t control tears listing to the event of Sri Kshetra. How our ancestors fought to keep alive their deities 😢
Absolutely Loved this one, Sir you should also invite Sanjeev Sanyal.
We want Bharat to be declared as Sanatan Hindu Rashtra with basic rights for all but voting rights only for the Sanatani's ie Hindus Sikhs Jain's Buddhists!
Sri Ram 😢
So u want to openly discriminate against Muslims? How ignorant
@@hbains2850 This is not your land . You converted so you have no claim on this rashtra you are monsters rakhsas who destroyed my nation.
@@hbains2850 yes, because they are not accept that they are converted. They call themselves as arab,turk,chinese,mughal. So
Was a mind bogaling revelation of our unknown , never revealed History by Surya Roy Ji. Thank you. AND special mention goes to our Abhijt Ji fr giving and allowing RoyJi, full time without any interuptions.. thank you both very much.. bless yr hearts...
My village is 30 kms from Bhubaneswar towards Konarak. My Grandfather used to tell us about the invasion of kalapahad.
Jai bharat 🚩🙏
What a treasure trove this historian has ... would love to hear more ... makes me a proud Indian, Salute to our ancestors for their courage and determination in facing the Islamic marauders.
This was definitely one of the best episodes so far. If possible please consider bringing him back for another round. He's quite a treasure trove for history enthusiasts. 🙏
The amount of knowledge and information gained from this single podcast is normally equivalent to several in a series. The encyclopedic knowledge of Shri Surya Roy is mind-boggling. This type of history should be encouraged in our schools and universities.
Love from Nepal🎉🎉🎉And kepp doing good work actually the english podcast is the best❤
Wow I loved it..I m from Odisha..I even don't know so much in detail
.I have heard of elephant 🐘 but such as expansion.😅
You have very long life. I came here to search your latest videos, without search it was popping up in front of me
Excellent presentation ❤❤❤ very impressed by Surya Roy- a very interesting chapter of history that should be in our children’s textbooks. Thanks for bringing him on.
Absolutely amazing podcast sir. Please do more unknown ancient history podcasts.
Thank you Abhijit sir for inviting such a wonderful and well read researcher.
Illuminating, as always. Best of regards and gratefulness in heart.
Blessings from Rawalpindi, Pakistan!
Thanks for bringing the history of Shri Jagannath temple, vrery rare podcast. Namaste.
As someone of the Indian diaspora, thank you for this research on our lost history.
Really mind bending podcast ! Thanks 🙏
Totally Captivating. Looking forward for a next podcast with him.
Yes it will be there
Love from odisha ❤, but as an odia I feel ashamed that I don't know many things explained in this video 😥😥😥
Asa sabu janiba uchit odia mana nku. Kete kete old artifacts jaha budhism related sabu smuggling hei Kolkata museum aau Bharat bahara ku jai chhi. Abe ama pakhe kichhi pramana nahi .
Odia loka ghare pothi rakhi puja karanti old time re ..hele kana lekha achhi janiba pai chestha karanti nahi. Emiti bahut mulyaban pothi sabu nasta hei jai chhi.
Did you study in CBSE?
Not your fault as congress rules this thing were hidden
Slowly nationalist historians are clearing the propaganda by communist and Islamist historians
Such a fabulous podcast
Best thing i like about Abhijeet is that he conducts the show as if i am sitting with the expert and listening to him.
Abhi Bhai thankyou very much very lovely episode Absolutely loved it n knowledgeable as well
Your choice of guests is very good Sir
A very nice presentation. I will wait for your book
The best part of the video is the host isn’t interrupting, theatrical or provocative just being a listener and letting the listeners listen peacefully!!😊
Great podcast. Thanks Abhijitji.
Wow 😮, I am just awestruck by the plethora of information shared in this podcast. I am from Odisha, even I got to know so many new things that I never knew. Thanks.
Being an Odia felt so proud of our history
Thanks for this informative video Sir ❤❤❤
Beautiful podcast
I think this kind of History should go into our textbooks ! I doubt not even native Oriya people would know all these details!! How magnificent was our history and we here study only about the barbarians!!
Real insights. Would like to know more on Angadesh history!!
This is an awesome podcast
nice story of past glory of India
So heart touching
Erase memories of greatness of ancestors
Absolute gem of a podcast n history lesson..... My knowledge is genuinely increased bcs i had no idea about all this but ur knowledge is so deep n so enlightening that im so glad i heard full podcast..... Thanks so so much
Real eye-opening findings on our history and sailing capabilities. It should flow into our academic texts somehow.
सर हिंदी में आपका वीडियो बहुत अच्छा लगता है
Liked it thoroughly!! Thank you so much Abhijit jee and Surya Roy ji!! 🙏🙏🙏
my heartiest gratitude both of you for this wonderful episode. i have seen indian links in southamerican artifacts firsthand but the odisha link was surpirising.
Just amazing podcast! ❤🎉🎉
Stunning discussion! Surya ji a plethora of knowledge..
Sir just like pil man of India........ please let roy sir be considered to be a regular like you're of ranveer......this man's way of talking and history knowledge is insane, so please do made him your regular guest 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Very very very interesting talk. Mr. Surya Roy talks in a manner that engages the listener in an interesting way. Usually, talks on history tend to get boring but not this one. This one was quite the opposite. Bharat needs a big army of brilliant history researchers like Surya Roy ji. Please call him many more times.
As an ardent hobbyist historian, this particular podcast was worth my time. Thank you so much.
Please bring j Sai deepak
Excellent video... excellent video, please keep calling such esteemed people sir, keep it up.
At 17:35 it is said that the Navagunjara manifested before Arjun during Viraat Darshan. However, some other sources explain it as "During Arjuna’s stay and penance in the Khandava forests, Navagunjara shows up"
Thanks Abhijit for giving detailed podcast on Orissa and Bengal which we from TG aren't aware of 👍
Jaganath temple was first build by king Indradymna thousands years before it was rebuild by Suryavanshi king jajati keshari during 949 to 945. Later it was again rebuild by king ananatvarm chodaganga dev of GANGA Dynasty.
Kaliga had two emporor kharabela and kapilendradeva. Lord Jaganath is also Savara tribal God. Because when jara savara killed lord Krishna to redeem his sin he asked lord Krishna to become his kul Devta.
Dhanyavad 🙏 ❤💐
Shri Surya Roy , A great work you are doing cannot be worded. This podcast is excellent .Thanks to Shri Abhijeet as well.
This was a amazing podcast . This is a treat for history lovers and history researchers . Thanks for inviting this guest to speak.
Fantastic podcast. Surya Roy, a hidden gem! Thanks for discovering him and introducing his work to us
King Gajapati means master of all elephant. Gaja sastra written in odisha. It have all details knowledge of elephant.
aaye re aaye logno boi jai megh gur gur kore chander shimanai, parul bon dake chompa chute aaye....BORGIRA shob hanke komor bendhe aaye . These are the songs we grew up with.
I've visited Anuradhapura Sri Lanka ...very interesting site,..paid a flat fee to enter the area. every step was a potential archaeological dig site...rich Indian history.
Mind-boggling! Thank you.
Very well researched and balanced presentation
Eye opening for of us, amazing facts about Kalinga by this great reserach scholar of hostroy
12:30 Thank you Thank you for this podcast. I am from Balasore and I studied the history of Odisha because of participation in various quizzes. I was so furious at the history taught in CBSE books because there is no mention of the Eastern Ganga dynasty kings in CBSE books. There is so much history about Balasore that even the people of Balasore aren't aware of.
Balasore could have been the modern-day Kolkata if the British had not abandoned it because of the shallow sea. They did build a port in Kirtania (Subarnarekha Port). We have Dinamardinga and Farsadinga as Dutch and French colonies. We have a hotel in Balasore called 'Banjara' and a petrol pump called 'Barjoji's' in Balasore owned by a guy whose ancestors were Dutch/French.
I wanted to create videos on the history of Odisha that's largely untold and forgotten.
Thanks for the information sir
It was very enlightened talk thank you so much 🙏
Your vlogs are truly informative and we are looking forward to seeing more vlogs on podcasts as well. They are a great help during our commutes. We would appreciate it if you could consider uploading more content on both Google and Apple podcasts platforms. Keep up the great work! 🌷
it is very interesting and important to learn about real indian history
Thank u sir for bringing my state history love u sir
This is quite good.
1:30:00 Maharana Pratap
I'm from Odisha and Jajpur. And I know in what condition is the Jagannath Temple. There's also a lot of things to be discovered and preserved but the ASI does nothing. The Varaha temple is also neglected and getting into ruins day by day.
Surya da, hats off. I will meet you soon when you come to Kolkata next.
Shri Abhijit Chanda ji, I read that Anuradhapura is named for Ravana’s daughter Anuradha who was married to Rahul the son of Shanta,( the older sister of Bhagwan Shri RamChandra ji ) and her husband RishyaShrunga who conducted the Putra kameshti yagnya for Maharaja Dasharatha.
Extremely interesting conversation
Thankyou for such a podcast