Okay, so has anyone else watched Part 1 and Part 2 of this restoration more than a couple hundred times? Maybe it’s just me but I love this particular one so much!!
Soumyadeep Bhattacherjee it would have been very sad to see him restorating full-time a week tu end up with a super clean keyboard that misses a single goddamm plungers.
Sir, I applaud you for your efforts, and take pride in your work. I used to be an authorized Commodore Computer Warranty Repair technician, and you would have been a valuable addition to the team back in the days. Good job!
Tommy Helgevold Sure, if I ever decided to revive Commodore, it would likely restore support for the classic computers too, like this one. I'm surprised it turned out the way it did.
The Obsolete Geek And a feeling of happiness knowing that it was saved from one of the worst possible fates a computer can have. Good job finding this one in the first place. Without you, who knows what could've happened to it.
Nice video. I would have like a few before and after shots at the end. I really enjoyed the detail you put in, especially the circuit board diagnostics.
Indeed very satisfying to see badly neglected, poor shape computer restored back to life and looking like new again :) Love to watch car repair videos as well and while watching the part 1 of this Vic-20 series, I was wondering if brake cleaner would help removing the oil and yessss!, he did use some brake cleaner in it :D
To think that VIC-20 was all covered in dirt, oil, and stuff in the previous episode. I really enjoyed watching these videos, and it's satisfying to see that computer back in working condition
@@GeminiWoods Work a modern computer? Do you even think before you type? And plenty of seniors use smart phones these days, the easiest ones have that little "i" in front to signify Idiot Phone, there is nothing smart about a smart phone and the term is actually an oxymoron.
@Wolfchacer The smart thing about smartphones is that they are pocket-sized computers. Ideally they'd be more customization-friendly but that doesn't take away from them being the Swiss knife of digital gadgets, combining phone, camera, recorder, music player, books, games, TV, internet browser, GPS, and a plethora of other miscellaneous things - all available in a device so ludicrously small that you can fit it in a pocket. If I had heard someone describe a smartphone when I was ten years old, I would have sorted it among the flying cars and other sci-fi gadgets I didn't think I'd ever own. There's a whole backpack's worth of stuff that used to carry around during high school that I can now fit in the palm of my hand. Even if you don't like them, you should respect the leaps of innovation they represent.
I don't know why, but it was almost emotional and a huge dose of satisfying to see that T key slot in there at the end. So many memories with the Vic-20. It was the first computer we had, and we got it almost a decade after popularity had ended. It's where I started programming, as a 7 year old. I could barely read English (as I'm not a native English speaker), but I managed to read the programming manuals. By the time I was 13 (and we had gone through 2 more modern computers), I was programming music on it. First thing I programmed entirely from scratch, with no assistance or any manuals, was the Imperial March tune from Star Wars. I programmed it entirely by ear. That was one of the greatest moments of my childhood. And to see one be taken in from that broken state and restored to its glory feels just like he said at the end, it's like an abused animal had been taken to a shelter, patched up and is now healthy and awaiting a happier life.
Nostalgia can do something like that to you. However, I have no emotional ties to the VIC20, but that did not stop me from feeling relief when it was restored to working order.
Thank you so much. After watching these, I got the idea to scrub off gunk from my broken doorknob. I got out the toolbox, really using the tools for the first time, and something clicked. My dad, his brother, and his father have been working in construction and carpentry for years. Nobody ever let me touch the tools. I always had this desire to help people and take things apart, but I never got a chance to. Now, because of you and other people who do what you do, I unlocked something in myself that brings me joy. I enjoy getting my hands dirty, which I’ve never enjoyed before. Thank you.
I don't know how you manage to make something that could be so monotonous and technical so interesting and watchable, but you do every single time. Amazing work!
*I'm not crying, you're crying!* I remember watching this when it first came out, but I have been rewatching your videos again recently, and this one just has a really emotionally satisfying conclusion and it's just so wholesome and pure and awesome :')
I agree. The RF shield corroded, and the residue stained the case below it, so it happened with the computer upright and level. It could have been left sitting in water used to fight that fire. This Commodore died at its post.
It's so inspiring to see someone with such respect and love for these classic computer systems go through all that effort to restore a machine that the majority of people would just completely write off. The transformation of this particular machine made me tear up a bit, LOL. Mainly because the VIC-20 was the first computer I ever owned, when I was a kid, and to see the love and attention he lavished on it to make it better than it was before was just incredible.
Also they were easy to write programs for. My first was the vic-20 as well but only the computer. No dataset to save on. Trying to type the program in the back of the book took awhile and then you would have to lose it when you turned it off.
While not a computer, about 8 years ago the company I was working at was doing a refurbishing of the offices, and in a bin were all kinds of peripherals, including an ancient looking Compaq keyboard. It looked like it had caught fire and I could see cigarette ash and either soda or coffee or both in-between the keys. I asked my manager if I could take it and he said it was all just broken junk so why not. It was really heavy and looked like it had been hooked up to a server unit with a thick PS2 cable. I took it home and managed to dismantle it, and it was even worse inside than I could guess. There were potato chip bits, crumbs, various colored hairs and lint and all of it stuck onto a bed of ash and sticky black goo. It took me 3 days of moistening, scrubbing and rinsing, cleaning the small circuit board with brushes and soft cloth, drying it out and re-assembling it, till it came time to see if it made any difference. It looked way better, although it was still yellowed from years of someone smoking next to it, but when I plugged it in and the PC seemed to boot with no issue (don't ask, but my MB still has 1 PS2 port on it) it felt like the greatest thing ever. And with all the crud out of it, it now made a satisfying clacking noise like an old type-writer. With the artificial weight (which I discovered was a literal piece of steel in a groove on the back of the case), it felt super-solid and I just left it on. I've had it since then, standing out from all the other parts on the PC like some grumpy old man refusing to pass quietly into his age-group. And every time I get home and sit down at my PC, I just look at it and smile, thinking how this was something people just dismissed, but that was still trying to stubbornly do its job if only someone would tend to it a bit. This was how I felt watching this computer being restored.
I know someone has probably already mentioned this, but it's extremely dangerous to operate a grinder with gloves. If you slip your glove will get caught in the wheel and pull it into the grinder along with your hand. If you slip with no glove the worst the will happen is you get a cut but your hand won't get sucked in.
@@nicolasf.molina5684 with gloves on, you risk losing your hands because the glove won't tear before it sucks your hand in and grinds it. Without gloves, your skin might tear but at least it won't be pulled into the grinder and possibly get torn off.
@@nicolasf.molina5684 No, you're wrong. @semtech is correct, if you wore gloves near a rotary tool in a machine shop you'd have your ass chewed out by a shop manager and likely have an OSHA occurrence report. No gloves near rotary equipment!
speedytech7 Mmmm ok well it make sense I think, I’ll do it then without gloves next time 🧤 this summer I want to build my own wood kayak so good to know it, thanx mate!!
That was such a beautiful two parter to watch. Some of the crappy electronics I've (badly) restored makes me happy to look at as they are far more proudful in their new state than what they once were, I'd be absolutely beaming just looking at this VIC20 if I were you. Truly awesome.
Indeed. A tool (for that is what a computer is) that someone put blood, sweat & tears into making; to make it work and use it as it was meant to be used; to do so gives honor and dignity to the men who made it.
Holy wow, I thought it was a waste of time to check each individual chip, that chips themselves don't actually break that often and it was just going to be a capacitor. I was blown away when you actually fixed it with a new RAM chip!
I suspect the fact a RAM chip failed was WHY the machine was junked from its original use in the first place. No one at the machine shop (or auto repair shop) wanted to spend the time and labor to figure out what went wrong when another VIC-20 could probably be had for a literally dirt cheap price at the time.
Capacitors don't fail as often as people seem to think, especially in equipment this new. Usually capacitors fail in high heat/high stress (crappy OEM Pentium 4 motherboards nobody cares about) and in very, very old electronics. Think 1940s televisions left in the desert for 40 years that end up with about 5 bad total.
@@AiOinc1 also, from 1999 to 2008 there was a huge batch of bad capacitors on the market. A lot of dead TVs from that era can be fixed by recapping it.
I am absolutely amazed that you were able to get this thing back to working condition, let alone looking better than 90% of other machines left to rot away like this one was. Seeing electronics resurrected like this is literally the reason why I never am willing to toss away any computer i care about that isn't working properly.
@Nekogami-Crystal: Stop being a bad person (rude and sarcastic: an _evil_ combination). It is the job of the creator to make leisure for the viewer. If they have to do excessive amounts of work (too much for the task at hand), then it is more likely they will escape to greener pastures; AKA if the video is bad, viewers will watch something different. Had to edit; I forgot a comma.
you mean he tells the truth. and not lie like 99% of youtubers that get payed to tell every one its the best thing in the world. just so u go out and buy it and then find out its a load of crap.
Now THAT is the way I felt and I am amazed that ANYONE would have the stupidity to criticize this video at all. It's like Jesus raises Lazarus and the sisters go.. "Hmmm Jesus .. he had SHOES when he died"
Wow, these two VIC-20 videos must have taken a tremendous amount of work! I am so glad you managed to salvage it though. Even though it is just an old soulless piece of electronics I can't help to think it is happy now with a loving owner, running like it should, all cleaned up and looked after. The pet analogy was a good one. Great work!
These restoration vids gave me a serious case of nostalgia watching them. The VIC 20 was the first computer I ever owned. So I understand the feeling completely.
cheetahlip ...me too, I love to watch all sorts of things I can’t do. Farming, loggers and tree pruning, modern sharecroppers, fishing and camping. But only if they are experts, and not full of themselves. Just regular guys! 😁
My goodness, this was a fantastic project to watch from start to finish! I definitely lack your electronics troubleshooting skills, but I've done similar visual restorations on more than a few vintage machines, and it's *such a rush* to see them come together. My personal favorite was a Commodore SX-64 which was in very rough shape when I bought it a few years ago, and now could be reasonably described as "quite nice." I'm so happy that your battered old VIC-20 is restored both visually and electronically - you did a fantastic job here!
My brother had one and would tinker about with the user/cartridge port and control things via it, he was a genious back then. Don't know what he's up to now as we've lost touch. I had a C16 and hacked the games and learned assembly language.
I stumbled across this channel yesterday and I haven't stopped smiling since I watched this restoration. Loved the VIC-20. I played Jupiter Lander on mine for hours. Wish I still had it. It was amazing watching you work. I wish I had that same patience and focus. I would have stopped at the oily case.
I loved that part at the end about how a computer restoration is like a pet rescue! You should use that as your channel introduction. It's a moving and beautiful sentiment.
James Vejar heeee. I see what you did there. I often see PET SUPPLIES on stores and get excited for 500 uSeconds before I realize its not what I want it to be.
Since both the shield and separator are flat, you could probably use the damaged ones as a pattern and make new ones. Something like a dremel would be a possible way to do the metal one. It won't look perfect, but it's on the inside anyway. For the paper one, just use the metal shield as a pattern and use a box cutter.
You should write up a short description of where, when, and how the machine was restored along with a link to these two videos and include it with the computer so that it has a history to go along with it now. Maybe stick it inside the case or tape it to the bottom.
Helium Road There's a long and glorious tradition of including service and ownership records with such objects, ranging from the formality of aircraft and ship logs to servicing history carefully scrawled on the inside of engine covers. Since this machine already predates TH-cam by at least a factor of 3, it would be prudent to include both the video files and a written transcript with the summary. Any digital records should be in equally long-lived formats, such as plain ASCII text and simplified MPEG1.
I just came across The 8 bit Guy, watched part 1 and 2 of this. Brings back a lot of good memories from days gone by. My first computer was an Apple IIe. After that, I bought a Commodore 64 so it was fun watching this restoration video. Plus I have it for reference if I ever need it in my shop. Thanks for posting, keep up the good work!
Today it means that SOME parts of the products are produced in the usa, to ship it 10 times around the world to be put together in a cheap 3rd world country.... Or china
Hi, I was watching and you said you would not reuse the old oil covered cardboard. Have you ever heard of Gasket paper used in the motor industry? I come from the UK and so the name maybe a little different in the US. Gasket paper is used on old engines that companies do not make gaskets for anymore. You simply place the part on top draw around and cut it out. It is identical to the card used in the old computers and radio equipment.
I would have just washed the oil soaked cardboard in water-dawn dish soap solution, dried it, and ironed it flat. I am obsessive about keeping things as original as possible. It grinds my gears when I see people throwing parts, RF shields, and RFI line filter capacitors and inductors, etc. into the trash.
@@gregorymalchuk272 Dawn probably wouldn't have been strong enough...it's easier to just find the same type of cardboard, trace the original design, and cut it out by hand.
BilisNegra Me too. The machines for Metal Pressing and Shaping at my work are all Microsoft DoS based. Before that there was Apple ii. I don't know how there even are industrial programs for the commodore but apparently for whatever reason this one in this video found a way into the work place
Great videos (part 1 and 2) - you took a trashy, dirty, disgusting Vic-20 and gave it a new life. I still have my old Vic-20, a treasure I will never throw out ; )
Nice save! My first computer was a VIC-20. I think that when I upgraded to the C-64, my mother gave it away. I spent hours and hours on those machines. (Mostly waiting for the games to load from the Datasette.) I'd love to have both of them back now.
WOOwww... I Love Happy Endings. Watching this is like watching an action movie, and rooting for the good guy to win at the end. And it happens. Congrats. Very Satisfying.
The ending was kinda sad but happy, when i saw part 1's video i was like " Theres no way he's gonna get this thing working 100%" but you brought it back and otherwise that machine would have been lost and forgotten. it lives on in the hearts of us all
I was pleasantly surprised you got the VIC working perfectly again. By the way, for that RF shield ... you could have cleaned it by putting into a dilute HCl (HydroChloric acid) solution for a few minutes, rinsed it off with de-mineralized water and then poured a tinning solution over it. It wouldn't have repaired those corroded and broken-of pieces, but the RF-shield would probably have looked a lot better and shiny; and protected against corrosion thanks to the tinning solution. Tinning liquid isn't cheap however. In any case, great video, instructive and entertaining at the same time. Where I'm concerned, I wouldn't mind if they were longer, but then, I imagine you already have little time to edit a video, let alone several for each of your channels. Good job ! :)
He could also used it as a template to cut a new shield out of metal flashing (available at Home Depot) and a new insulating cardboard from a piece of poster board.
My dad's first-ever computer, the Vic20. I programmed an entire menu-driven guide to Walt Disney World in BASIC on this computer! I spent hours on that thing. And to top that off, I still have a Commodore 64 that's been in storage for years, but unfortunately not my original. I have reason to believe it still works. Thank you for the restoration video, and I'm sure glad you found another T key!
You did perfect job here! What you did as fix then explain how different parts work and how to test them was better than all electronics repair channels i've seen! This combination of your software and hardware knowledge skills is outstanding. I wish you were my teacher in high school. Flawless part 1 and 2 videos!
I was a bit puzzled that you didn't test the ram chips first since they are the most common point of failure when it comes to graphical errors, but at least you made a good video on how to test everything else as a bonus. It was awesome to see given I'm a bit of a vic 20 fan given it was our first computer, and I own three vic 20s, one early german (vc 20), one later euro (vic 20) and one canadian with a silver label for some odd reason.
Perhaps that was the point. If he checked the ram chips straight away and found the fault, the video would have been pretty short and we wouldn't have got to see all the other trouble shooting steps.
MrVolksbeetle he shouldn't have used a grinder or wire brush to remove the rust. Petroleum jelly or acid would have done the job really well and removed everything!
I'd have used some phosphoric acid based cleaner. They work really well. What doesn't come off on the first pass goes under the wire brush and then the acid again. Just don't let it dry cause it's hard to clean off once solidified. And it takes off the zinc plating so you need to primer afterwards.
Very cool video! I could spend hours doing troubleshooting and bench work. This reminds me of my days in the Navy troubleshooting SPS10 radar. Same vintage. Good job sir. Thanks for keeping the old school alive!
If he is able to repair anything, I expect to have a working desktop in my room. I may be able to do a few things with my commodore 64c (owned in future) thanks to his videos.
Your technical knowledge about a decades old computer is absolutely astounding. I worked in a computer repair shop for 2 years and I would be completely lost if tasked with the same thing.
You are a sick genius!!. Loved it all the way through part one and part two , showing what worked what didnt, anything that other videos would try to hide to keep it " enjoyable". It was like computer porn to me. Kudos !
I had to give you a like because of the genius behind using the “sort of resembles it” arrow key for the letter T. You sir are thinking outside the box.
It's literally just a keyboard-puter but I found myself going "AWWW!!!" when you finally fixed it up and was playing games xD It felt like exactly what you mentioned! Watching a sick hurt animal be cleaned up and healed and given to a nice family who will appreciate and love it! Know this thing probably spent most of its life working in a factory too makes me feel even better it can be enjoyed and loved now. I would legit buy the thing just to give it love as if it were my pet XDDD Really love this! Awesome job man, awesome job!
Man, that VIC-20 is a trooper for being able to survive all that work and years, maybe even decades later, still work. Can't believe how much better that got fixed! That's some Wizard work right there! Nice job! 😀👍
8 bit guy: *replaces t key with an arrow key*
vintage problems require vintage solutions
if the color bugs you you can alway's paint the T.
MoDeRn PrObLeM rEqUiRe MoDeRn SoLuTiOn.....,.......
@@kami-kun_va do they?
Years later in the future, Apple uses a technique to digitally marry keyboard buttons to the mainboard.
I'd like but hey 555 like the classic clock chip.
After a long life of hard work, this Vic 20 can finally enjoy retirement
It's gonna be all fun and games.
spotted
Had me at tears
Actually it was already retired and enjoying its stress free life. It now has to be pulled out of retirement and be a slave again.
@@Furnus105 i agree
Okay, so has anyone else watched Part 1 and Part 2 of this restoration more than a couple hundred times? Maybe it’s just me but I love this particular one so much!!
Not alone
same
o/ I watch it a 100 times and always come back
Me too. I wish he did more extreme restorations like this
but now no more restoration! This cannel is dead for me :(
I haven't teared up this much for a machine since the T-800 gave a thumbs up at the end of Terminator 2.
Skynet probably shed a tear, too!
I oddly had the exact same thought. This is the best of 8-bit guys vids by far.
So true
Not all heroes wear capes.
So true!
i actually came here from one of your videos! im a big fan of your channel.
Some wear glasses
The Retro Future *yeah*
omg its elliot hey bro i was watching one of ur vids before i came here the one on the $20 screwdriver great vids by the way
Anyone else feel SUPER RELIEVED when he finally properly replaced that "T" key?
My OCD was appeased.
@For the Record: Yes. Very relieved!
@ShadowAngel: You wouldn't be saying that if you had OCDs.
Very satisfied but the letter “T” wasn’t white like the others and looked stained which sort of annoyed me. He should have cleaned it first
@ShadowAngel: You take that back before I block you for all eternity!
Edit: Already reported. Too late!
@Makla Bouhlel: I know, right?
Idk why but that T-key replacement made me feel that the restoration was TOTALLY complete! ❤
Excellent work!
i know right, almost like he planned it out :) Very satisfying video
Soumyadeep Bhattacherjee it would have been very sad to see him restorating full-time a week tu end up with a super clean keyboard that misses a single goddamm plungers.
Finally the lowly "t key" can fulfil his vic20 word processing destiny. 😥
SAME
You mean "⬆o⬆ally comple⬆e"
Ah yes. The classic QWER⬆️Y layout.
*It sort of resembles the T character anyway*
Always look on the upside!
I see what you did there.
QWER↑Y
DebriS: ⬆️ha⬆️'s ac⬆️ually quie⬆️ clever wha⬆️ you did ⬆️here ;)
The end brought a tear to my eye.
Incredibly satisfying and even emotional.
I regret that I have but one up-vote to give to this guy!
ikr
i love seeing oily computers getting cleaned up and partnered up with a family ;)
It made me think of how the computer must feel. "Hey I'm working again! That was a long sleep."
Sir, I applaud you for your efforts, and take pride in your work. I used to be an authorized Commodore Computer Warranty Repair technician, and you would have been a valuable addition to the team back in the days. Good job!
This will be an honour for Dave to read.
Thank you!
Tommy Helgevold what a nice thing to say. I would love if everyone in TH-cam were as nice as this.
Agree completely!
Tommy Helgevold Sure, if I ever decided to revive Commodore, it would likely restore support for the classic computers too, like this one. I'm surprised it turned out the way it did.
That old computer would say "Thank you for believing in me!" if it could talk.
@@hgffmikimmon5293 don't be so rude.
@@hgffmikimmon5293 propably an 8-10 year old lol
@@bartekkakol1316 true
This is, for me, perhaps the most touching comment I've read. And I've lost track of how many times I've watched this video. 😢
Give it a speech synthesizer and it can!
If old computers had feelings, this one would be crying out loud in tears of happiness. Excellent Job!!
You mean computers don’t have feelings?
@@KoopaMedia64 no computers do not have feelings at all as they are NON HUMAN
@@stephensnell1379 But there are things with feelings who are non human, like Animals
@@stephensnell1379 Kraftwerk disagrees
@@stephensnell1379 imagine being named Stephen Smell
Brings a tear to my eye.
The Obsolete Geek And a feeling of happiness knowing that it was saved from one of the worst possible fates a computer can have. Good job finding this one in the first place. Without you, who knows what could've happened to it.
Colton Rushton The worst possible fate...? True, I guess no one installed iOS on there. *canned laughter*
Nice video. I would have like a few before and after shots at the end. I really enjoyed the detail you put in, especially the circuit board diagnostics.
Same here.
I was about to write the very same comment.
"Is this the Commodore shelter?"
"thanks"
David, it was so pleasurable to watch the whole restoration and debugging process - thank you so much!!!!
Geek Detour I completely agree. Watching the troubleshooting was the best part!
Although deep down I would have liked for it to work perfectly I'm glad it was broken for the troubleshooting lesson.
Indeed very satisfying to see badly neglected, poor shape computer restored back to life and looking like new again :)
Love to watch car repair videos as well and while watching the part 1 of this Vic-20 series, I was wondering if brake cleaner would help removing the oil and yessss!, he did use some brake cleaner in it :D
The ending was so cute.
Hope that VIC-20 spends his lifetime!
dngineer
To think that VIC-20 was all covered in dirt, oil, and stuff in the previous episode. I really enjoyed watching these videos, and it's satisfying to see that computer back in working condition
Wavetable Guy yes
At least it wasn't covered in jizz.
YOOOOOOO SUPERJET WAZZUP
Someone watching this is going to recognize that vic20 and be like "am I really that gross?"
So true
That person is probably in there 70s and barely knows how to work a modern computer let alone a smartphone.
who knows the machines that have this kind of "old" pcs often get used a very long time.
@@GeminiWoods Work a modern computer? Do you even think before you type? And plenty of seniors use smart phones these days, the easiest ones have that little "i" in front to signify Idiot Phone, there is nothing smart about a smart phone and the term is actually an oxymoron.
@Wolfchacer
The smart thing about smartphones is that they are pocket-sized computers. Ideally they'd be more customization-friendly but that doesn't take away from them being the Swiss knife of digital gadgets, combining phone, camera, recorder, music player, books, games, TV, internet browser, GPS, and a plethora of other miscellaneous things - all available in a device so ludicrously small that you can fit it in a pocket.
If I had heard someone describe a smartphone when I was ten years old, I would have sorted it among the flying cars and other sci-fi gadgets I didn't think I'd ever own. There's a whole backpack's worth of stuff that used to carry around during high school that I can now fit in the palm of my hand.
Even if you don't like them, you should respect the leaps of innovation they represent.
I don't know why, but it was almost emotional and a huge dose of satisfying to see that T key slot in there at the end.
So many memories with the Vic-20. It was the first computer we had, and we got it almost a decade after popularity had ended. It's where I started programming, as a 7 year old. I could barely read English (as I'm not a native English speaker), but I managed to read the programming manuals.
By the time I was 13 (and we had gone through 2 more modern computers), I was programming music on it. First thing I programmed entirely from scratch, with no assistance or any manuals, was the Imperial March tune from Star Wars. I programmed it entirely by ear.
That was one of the greatest moments of my childhood.
And to see one be taken in from that broken state and restored to its glory feels just like he said at the end, it's like an abused animal had been taken to a shelter, patched up and is now healthy and awaiting a happier life.
Nostalgia can do something like that to you. However, I have no emotional ties to the VIC20, but that did not stop me from feeling relief when it was restored to working order.
May I ask you what kind of job you have today. Being able to teach yourself programming in the age of 7 is pretty impressing!
I work as a tech reviewer and webmaster for a webzine and freelancing as a web and app developer and marketing consultant.
LOVE this comment - I almost stopped the video because of my OCD!
not satisfying enough since the T is yellow
Thank you so much. After watching these, I got the idea to scrub off gunk from my broken doorknob. I got out the toolbox, really using the tools for the first time, and something clicked. My dad, his brother, and his father have been working in construction and carpentry for years. Nobody ever let me touch the tools. I always had this desire to help people and take things apart, but I never got a chance to. Now, because of you and other people who do what you do, I unlocked something in myself that brings me joy. I enjoy getting my hands dirty, which I’ve never enjoyed before. Thank you.
before and after pics of the door knob??
I thought I would have to wait longer for part 2. This channel is great!
This is an unrelated comment, but I just wanted to say...
I like your avatar and user name. *Quack!*
Thanks!
Yes!
Same here, considering I just watched the first part... I'm an idiot lol
a happy outcome for the Vic 20 and a new home !
I don't know how you manage to make something that could be so monotonous and technical so interesting and watchable, but you do every single time. Amazing work!
Because technical stuff is damn interesting. Boredom is the fault of the one who is bored :)
That computer could have just as easily ended up in the trash, but instead it lives again. What a transformation, very impressive.
*I'm not crying, you're crying!*
I remember watching this when it first came out, but I have been rewatching your videos again recently, and this one just has a really emotionally satisfying conclusion and it's just so wholesome and pure and awesome :')
The oily black residue makes it look like it suffered through a fire, but wasn't burned itself.
I agree. The RF shield corroded, and the residue stained the case below it, so it happened with the computer upright and level. It could have been left sitting in water used to fight that fire.
This Commodore died at its post.
Part of the lower left was burned, He filed it down though.
"I'll be back."
Dank Memes yeah, I though the same thing, but it still counts as being burned
Exactly what I was thinking
Your troubleshooting skills have definitely improved since we were 7 and 10. ;-)
Ah yes, when I was a kid, I would hit any electronic stuff if it's not working properly.
whatifallpotsinzeldaarecuccos 😂 same
Sometimes all it needs is a good beating to work
Good old percussive maintenance
Your grammar skills have definitely not improved since you were 7 and 10.
It's so inspiring to see someone with such respect and love for these classic computer systems go through all that effort to restore a machine that the majority of people would just completely write off. The transformation of this particular machine made me tear up a bit, LOL. Mainly because the VIC-20 was the first computer I ever owned, when I was a kid, and to see the love and attention he lavished on it to make it better than it was before was just incredible.
Also they were easy to write programs for. My first was the vic-20 as well but only the computer. No dataset to save on. Trying to type the program in the back of the book took awhile and then you would have to lose it when you turned it off.
While not a computer, about 8 years ago the company I was working at was doing a refurbishing of the offices, and in a bin were all kinds of peripherals, including an ancient looking Compaq keyboard. It looked like it had caught fire and I could see cigarette ash and either soda or coffee or both in-between the keys.
I asked my manager if I could take it and he said it was all just broken junk so why not. It was really heavy and looked like it had been hooked up to a server unit with a thick PS2 cable. I took it home and managed to dismantle it, and it was even worse inside than I could guess. There were potato chip bits, crumbs, various colored hairs and lint and all of it stuck onto a bed of ash and sticky black goo.
It took me 3 days of moistening, scrubbing and rinsing, cleaning the small circuit board with brushes and soft cloth, drying it out and re-assembling it, till it came time to see if it made any difference. It looked way better, although it was still yellowed from years of someone smoking next to it, but when I plugged it in and the PC seemed to boot with no issue (don't ask, but my MB still has 1 PS2 port on it) it felt like the greatest thing ever.
And with all the crud out of it, it now made a satisfying clacking noise like an old type-writer. With the artificial weight (which I discovered was a literal piece of steel in a groove on the back of the case), it felt super-solid and I just left it on. I've had it since then, standing out from all the other parts on the PC like some grumpy old man refusing to pass quietly into his age-group. And every time I get home and sit down at my PC, I just look at it and smile, thinking how this was something people just dismissed, but that was still trying to stubbornly do its job if only someone would tend to it a bit.
This was how I felt watching this computer being restored.
I know someone has probably already mentioned this, but it's extremely dangerous to operate a grinder with gloves. If you slip your glove will get caught in the wheel and pull it into the grinder along with your hand. If you slip with no glove the worst the will happen is you get a cut but your hand won't get sucked in.
semtech you’re totally right, much better without globes so if you slip you just lose your hand
@@nicolasf.molina5684 who even wears globes on their hands to begin with?!
@@nicolasf.molina5684 with gloves on, you risk losing your hands because the glove won't tear before it sucks your hand in and grinds it. Without gloves, your skin might tear but at least it won't be pulled into the grinder and possibly get torn off.
@@nicolasf.molina5684 No, you're wrong. @semtech is correct, if you wore gloves near a rotary tool in a machine shop you'd have your ass chewed out by a shop manager and likely have an OSHA occurrence report. No gloves near rotary equipment!
speedytech7 Mmmm ok well it make sense I think, I’ll do it then without gloves next time 🧤 this summer I want to build my own wood kayak so good to know it, thanx mate!!
That was such a beautiful two parter to watch. Some of the crappy electronics I've (badly) restored makes me happy to look at as they are far more proudful in their new state than what they once were, I'd be absolutely beaming just looking at this VIC20 if I were you. Truly awesome.
Excellent work! Glad to see it all cleaned up and working!
Your comparison with a rescued animal was great :-) happy little VIC 20 is jumping in the grass fields again!
yeah! i would like adopt him
same
Indeed. A tool (for that is what a computer is) that someone put blood, sweat & tears into making; to make it work and use it as it was meant to be used; to do so gives honor and dignity to the men who made it.
I wouldnt Adopt the vic 20 I guess becouse Its a US model and i live in europe and a vic20 are easier to come by here :)
It’d be more like “jumping in the BASIC fields again”.
Holy wow, I thought it was a waste of time to check each individual chip, that chips themselves don't actually break that often and it was just going to be a capacitor. I was blown away when you actually fixed it with a new RAM chip!
I suspect the fact a RAM chip failed was WHY the machine was junked from its original use in the first place. No one at the machine shop (or auto repair shop) wanted to spend the time and labor to figure out what went wrong when another VIC-20 could probably be had for a literally dirt cheap price at the time.
@@gordontaylor2815 and also its fuckin nasty
Capacitors don't fail as often as people seem to think, especially in equipment this new.
Usually capacitors fail in high heat/high stress (crappy OEM Pentium 4 motherboards nobody cares about) and in very, very old electronics. Think 1940s televisions left in the desert for 40 years that end up with about 5 bad total.
@@AiOinc1 The capacitors that usually fail are electrolytics in power supplies. I see disk capacitors on the motherboard. Those hardly ever fail.
@@AiOinc1 also, from 1999 to 2008 there was a huge batch of bad capacitors on the market. A lot of dead TVs from that era can be fixed by recapping it.
I am absolutely amazed that you were able to get this thing back to working condition, let alone looking better than 90% of other machines left to rot away like this one was. Seeing electronics resurrected like this is literally the reason why I never am willing to toss away any computer i care about that isn't working properly.
Very impressive, but I miss a "before / after shot! I had to open 2 browsers and pause the video to get side-by-side view ^^
Same, lol!
+2
that must have been hard and cost you soo much work. LOL
@Nekogami-Crystal: Stop being a bad person (rude and sarcastic: an _evil_ combination). It is the job of the creator to make leisure for the viewer. If they have to do excessive amounts of work (too much for the task at hand), then it is more likely they will escape to greener pastures; AKA if the video is bad, viewers will watch something different.
Had to edit; I forgot a comma.
youre not any better, complaining the same way
chill a bit
Vintage mineral oil cooled pc clean up part 2
linus tech tipss?
You can go to a channel and if you select options you can choose to no longer see it.
you mean he tells the truth. and not lie like 99% of youtubers that get payed to tell every one its the best thing in the world. just so u go out and buy it and then find out its a load of crap.
That's just crazy. It looks like new. When watching the first part i wouldn't even thought that it's possible to clean and repair that thing at all.
Now THAT is the way I felt and I am amazed that ANYONE would have the stupidity to criticize this video at all. It's like Jesus raises Lazarus and the sisters go.. "Hmmm Jesus .. he had SHOES when he died"
Wow, these two VIC-20 videos must have taken a tremendous amount of work! I am so glad you managed to salvage it though. Even though it is just an old soulless piece of electronics I can't help to think it is happy now with a loving owner, running like it should, all cleaned up and looked after. The pet analogy was a good one. Great work!
I dont know why im crying about a computer getting a new life. But i am... shut up.
These restoration vids gave me a serious case of nostalgia watching them. The VIC 20 was the first computer I ever owned. So I understand the feeling completely.
Saaaaame dude. I usually get computers from people, even if they are nonfunctional, and I do my best to get them working again.
I'm not crying...you're crying!
Exactly the same!
pansies
Spent days to repair it : TIME TO PLAY SOME CHEESE AND ONION
Very inspirational, giving love to and old and misused Home computer which was possibly on its way out a new life. ^_^
What a wonderful happy ending. Excellent fixing skills there.
I'd very much like to write something to show my appreciation but I'm just speechless... Thank you for saving that VIC20! :)
Me To...
Just watched every minute of you restoring this thing....no idea why, but I liked it. Nice work.
cheetahlip ...me too, I love to watch all sorts of things I can’t do. Farming, loggers and tree pruning, modern sharecroppers, fishing and camping. But only if they are experts, and not full of themselves. Just regular guys! 😁
I was thinking about this creepy Commodore last night. Great work.
My goodness, this was a fantastic project to watch from start to finish! I definitely lack your electronics troubleshooting skills, but I've done similar visual restorations on more than a few vintage machines, and it's *such a rush* to see them come together. My personal favorite was a Commodore SX-64 which was in very rough shape when I bought it a few years ago, and now could be reasonably described as "quite nice." I'm so happy that your battered old VIC-20 is restored both visually and electronically - you did a fantastic job here!
Great video and cool tricks you revealed
My first computer was the ol' Vic 20! Man did I program with that many endless nights. Eagle Soft was our company. Omega Race was my first game also.
My brother had one and would tinker about with the user/cartridge port and control things via it, he was a genious back then. Don't know what he's up to now as we've lost touch. I had a C16 and hacked the games and learned assembly language.
I started watching this channel knowing nothing about computers, and basic electronics. I've learned so much. Thanks
I stopped everything to watch this. not sure why I'm so excited about a nasty old vic20.
So did I. as soon as I saw the notifcation, I came here. :D
just watched it, really good job 8-bit guy!
Same! :)
The excitement was real after the first video
Same here :)
This thing still looks better than my future
EpicLPer
Ur logo is soo cuuute.
I love ponies
me too
That's just because it exists
Yes, because bronies' futures aren't always that good.
still better than The Last Jedi
I stumbled across this channel yesterday and I haven't stopped smiling since I watched this restoration. Loved the VIC-20. I played Jupiter Lander on mine for hours. Wish I still had it. It was amazing watching you work. I wish I had that same patience and focus. I would have stopped at the oily case.
Oh my god, the ending was just so kind and beautiful. I'm genuinely touched
I loved that part at the end about how a computer restoration is like a pet rescue! You should use that as your channel introduction. It's a moving and beautiful sentiment.
Cy Nothing An excellent methaphor/simile for this occasion, ye.
Don’t you mean PET rescue? Lol
James Vejar heeee. I see what you did there. I often see PET SUPPLIES on stores and get excited for 500 uSeconds before I realize its not what I want it to be.
Fantastic work. You were getting quite emotional at the end!
Weren't we all?
I know I was!
I think this is the best restore I've seen so far. Such great work. The ability to make this happen shows what Made In USA used to mean.
Wow! 2.4K likes and no dislikes. This testifies to the amazing quality of your videos, David. Keep up the good work!
Since both the shield and separator are flat, you could probably use the damaged ones as a pattern and make new ones.
Something like a dremel would be a possible way to do the metal one. It won't look perfect, but it's on the inside anyway. For the paper one, just use the metal shield as a pattern and use a box cutter.
You should write up a short description of where, when, and how the machine was restored along with a link to these two videos and include it with the computer so that it has a history to go along with it now. Maybe stick it inside the case or tape it to the bottom.
Helium Road I feel like the history document could be in some museum case for the machine itself (god, it looks almost brand new now)
Hide a copy of the document IN the computer!
The Restart Point just like I used to do with system disks!
Helium Road There's a long and glorious tradition of including service and ownership records with such objects, ranging from the formality of aircraft and ship logs to servicing history carefully scrawled on the inside of engine covers. Since this machine already predates TH-cam by at least a factor of 3, it would be prudent to include both the video files and a written transcript with the summary. Any digital records should be in equally long-lived formats, such as plain ASCII text and simplified MPEG1.
He should sign it too.
I love that you treat your computers like living things
I replaced all my chips with Cheetos, and now all it will play is Chester Cheetah: Too Cool To Fool.
This is one of the stupidest things that has ever made me laugh.
@@Selrisitai ikr
@@Selrisitai I'm boerd in quarantine so I'm reaching old videos,not like I have anything else to do
MAN YOU ARE THE KING, holy shit I love your channel and you really are impressive. Keep up the good work, you really are one of a kind on youtube.
YEY!, Thought I was going to wait a couple of days for part 2
me too
more like a couple of months/years
I just came across The 8 bit Guy, watched part 1 and 2 of this. Brings back a lot of good memories from days gone by. My first computer was an Apple IIe. After that, I bought a Commodore 64 so it was fun watching this restoration video. Plus I have it for reference if I ever need it in my shop. Thanks for posting, keep up the good work!
"made in USA"??? I vaguely remember that. What does it mean?
Today it means that SOME parts of the products are produced in the usa, to ship it 10 times around the world to be put together in a cheap 3rd world country.... Or china
But back then, literally EVERY SINGLE piece was manufacturered in the U.S.
wtf are you babbling about? Just being a racist?
Extra heavy, extra expensive, not metric and unlikely to sell in world markets. That is what 'Made In USA' means in England.
M S
Yeah. Lows quality and with poorly fitted parts. At least that's what American brand cars represent.
I really think that 8-bit Guy has the best intro on TH-cam. It's so upbeat and fun, I look forward to it on every video.
Hi, I was watching and you said you would not reuse the old oil covered cardboard. Have you ever heard of Gasket paper used in the motor industry? I come from the UK and so the name maybe a little different in the US. Gasket paper is used on old engines that companies do not make gaskets for anymore. You simply place the part on top draw around and cut it out. It is identical to the card used in the old computers and radio equipment.
Nah, we call it gasket paper too.
Could have used corkboard too, but yeah plenty of options here too.
I would have just washed the oil soaked cardboard in water-dawn dish soap solution, dried it, and ironed it flat. I am obsessive about keeping things as original as possible. It grinds my gears when I see people throwing parts, RF shields, and RFI line filter capacitors and inductors, etc. into the trash.
@@gregorymalchuk272 Dawn probably wouldn't have been strong enough...it's easier to just find the same type of cardboard, trace the original design, and cut it out by hand.
14:42 I love everything you said about the VIC 20 after this point. Makes me smile ❤
Really nice to see one of these ex industrial machines happy again! Great work man!
idkpickone 45 And it's no longer a serious business machine (tm) either, as it's now a museum piece in David's collection.
Colton Rushton yup!
Me too, but I must say the first surprise to me was that this computer model was ever used for industrial machine control
BilisNegra Me too. The machines for Metal Pressing and Shaping at my work are all Microsoft DoS based. Before that there was Apple ii. I don't know how there even are industrial programs for the commodore but apparently for whatever reason this one in this video found a way into the work place
Great videos (part 1 and 2) - you took a trashy, dirty, disgusting Vic-20 and gave it a new life. I still have my old Vic-20, a treasure I will never throw out ; )
love me good happy ending!
Nice save! My first computer was a VIC-20. I think that when I upgraded to the C-64, my mother gave it away. I spent hours and hours on those machines. (Mostly waiting for the games to load from the Datasette.) I'd love to have both of them back now.
WOOwww... I Love Happy Endings. Watching this is like watching an action movie, and rooting for the good guy to win at the end. And it happens. Congrats. Very Satisfying.
The ending was kinda sad but happy, when i saw part 1's video i was like " Theres no way he's gonna get this thing working 100%" but you brought it back and otherwise that machine would have been lost and forgotten. it lives on in the hearts of us all
Like a homeless dog.. This vic 20 comes to life again!
I was pleasantly surprised you got the VIC working perfectly again. By the way, for that RF shield ... you could have cleaned it by putting into a dilute HCl (HydroChloric acid) solution for a few minutes, rinsed it off with de-mineralized water and then poured a tinning solution over it. It wouldn't have repaired those corroded and broken-of pieces, but the RF-shield would probably have looked a lot better and shiny; and protected against corrosion thanks to the tinning solution. Tinning liquid isn't cheap however.
In any case, great video, instructive and entertaining at the same time. Where I'm concerned, I wouldn't mind if they were longer, but then, I imagine you already have little time to edit a video, let alone several for each of your channels.
Good job ! :)
He could also used it as a template to cut a new shield out of metal flashing (available at Home Depot) and a new insulating cardboard from a piece of poster board.
I am from the Philippines and I really love what you did with this vintage thing. I just subscribed for my updates on your works. Great job!
My dad's first-ever computer, the Vic20. I programmed an entire menu-driven guide to Walt Disney World in BASIC on this computer! I spent hours on that thing. And to top that off, I still have a Commodore 64 that's been in storage for years, but unfortunately not my original. I have reason to believe it still works. Thank you for the restoration video, and I'm sure glad you found another T key!
"I live............... again!"
Well done, Dave. You did good by that VIC.
Oh David, this was a brilliant project, but I wish you had included a comparison between the machine in it's awful and it's finished state at the end!
You did perfect job here! What you did as fix then explain how different parts work and how to test them was better than all electronics repair channels i've seen! This combination of your software and hardware knowledge skills is outstanding. I wish you were my teacher in high school. Flawless part 1 and 2 videos!
That 4 key...
If he wanted to, he could just swap it out from the parts keyboard he got from his friend.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
DemonfangTheDragon Lucky you, I still didn't notice it
It's seen some shit, man...
Baetnet, what about it?
I was a bit puzzled that you didn't test the ram chips first since they are the most common point of failure when it comes to graphical errors, but at least you made a good video on how to test everything else as a bonus. It was awesome to see given I'm a bit of a vic 20 fan given it was our first computer, and I own three vic 20s, one early german (vc 20), one later euro (vic 20) and one canadian with a silver label for some odd reason.
Perhaps that was the point.
If he checked the ram chips straight away and found the fault, the video would have been pretty short and we wouldn't have got to see all the other trouble shooting steps.
Get some EVAPORUST to help with rusty metals. Seriously, it's kinda like magic. Great job on this epic resto.
MrVolksbeetle he shouldn't have used a grinder or wire brush to remove the rust. Petroleum jelly or acid would have done the job really well and removed everything!
I'd have used some phosphoric acid based cleaner. They work really well. What doesn't come off on the first pass goes under the wire brush and then the acid again. Just don't let it dry cause it's hard to clean off once solidified. And it takes off the zinc plating so you need to primer afterwards.
Hell! Coca-Cola is the most cheapest and eficiente way to remove rust
Or maybe he could have looked for someone with a laser rust remover.
MrVolksbeetle I second Evaporust. it worked miracles on a bunch of rusted out tools I got for cheap.
Very cool video! I could spend hours doing troubleshooting and bench work. This reminds me of my days in the Navy troubleshooting SPS10 radar. Same vintage. Good job sir. Thanks for keeping the old school alive!
Gloriously satisfying ending! So many would have just binned it. To see something end up looking so good that looked that bad does warm your insides!
what this guy does, is insane.
is there something he can't restore.
his hairline
and I can make that joke cause I share his pain
Y’all should eat McDonald’s fries then. I heard it reverses hair loss.
Pour some Kentucky moonshine on your head, the hair will be back within an hour or two.
My faith in humanity
If he is able to repair anything, I expect to have a working desktop in my room. I may be able to do a few things with my commodore 64c (owned in future) thanks to his videos.
This video is a sort of pornography for computer geeks and engineers
i agree with you! it is so satisfying...
Yeah I nutted
@@MrKillRoy14 no pun intended
@@MrKillRoy14 oh boy
U r inaproporiate
Your technical knowledge about a decades old computer is absolutely astounding. I worked in a computer repair shop for 2 years and I would be completely lost if tasked with the same thing.
You sir are a wizard!
bakiegw
You're a wizard Harry!
You are a sick genius!!. Loved it all the way through part one and part two , showing what worked what didnt, anything that other videos would try to hide to keep it " enjoyable". It was like computer porn to me. Kudos !
These videos brought a smile to my face. Great job bro. Keep doing what you do. XD
How had I not found this one before. I thought I had watched all your CBM videos. This made me smile so much. Amazing work.
I had to give you a like because of the genius behind using the “sort of resembles it” arrow key for the letter T. You sir are thinking outside the box.
Great job! Congratulations! Hope it's enjoyed for many years.
14:48 Best 10 second comment during a TH-cam video ever.
It's literally just a keyboard-puter but I found myself going "AWWW!!!" when you finally fixed it up and was playing games xD It felt like exactly what you mentioned! Watching a sick hurt animal be cleaned up and healed and given to a nice family who will appreciate and love it! Know this thing probably spent most of its life working in a factory too makes me feel even better it can be enjoyed and loved now. I would legit buy the thing just to give it love as if it were my pet XDDD Really love this! Awesome job man, awesome job!
When the robots finally take over they will remember this compassionate deed.
8:05 "Bring in the Logic Probe!" - Sark / TRON
tron3entertainment Ye. An excellent TRON reference out of David.
I hear that in my head whenever I see the words "logic probe". Every time.
Thats what she said!
That feel-good ending!
These 2 videos were beautiful. Thank you.
Man, that VIC-20 is a trooper for being able to survive all that work and years, maybe even decades later, still work. Can't believe how much better that got fixed! That's some Wizard work right there! Nice job! 😀👍
I heard rumours about a unit working continously for 20 years until a rise of tension killed it about five years ago.