I will gladly say it is getting great reviews online. But my thought process spanned from the reaction I saw in the theater and the discussions I saw after the movie ended. It seemed like people left either amazed or disappointed. As it is I saw the movie with 8 people, 3 of which didn't like it. So I felt that despite the great online reviews, that this movie had the potential to really make people think! Appreciate the comment my friend🫡
i thought the black and white scene looked great. also, i’m pretty sure it wasn’t cgi. there was a behind the scenes thing or something like that i saw and they used a thermal camera for it
Wow I had no idea! I appreciate the heads up. While that does make me appreciate the details of the scene, I still think I'll hold my opinion on the scene in general. So would you keep the scene black and white, or would you have redone the scene in color? Appreciate the comment my friend 🙂
@@TheThirdFloorofficial Also note that the black and white visuals are due to the black sun around Giedi Prime. Notice how when they were indoors the 'man made' lighting makes their natural colours come through. I think it's a nice touch. I think the idea is to make Geidi Prime feel more alien in a harsh and unforgiving way. Also as I was watching the movie the crowd in the stadium scene kind of reminds me of N. Korea and the choreographed cheering when Kim arrives.
Wow, that's a cool way to look at it! I like the way you think haha. But I didn't know that about the planets! It could just be that i haven't read the novels, so I don't have all of the information needed! A lot of the comments on this video are saying I'd probably change my mind on a few things I've I read the books. I'm gonna have to take a look now!! Thanks for the comment!!
@@TheThirdFloorofficial I havent read the novels either. I just love how the Harkonnens are portrayed. Black teeth, no hair, harsh and unforgiving planet the distinct design of their technology IE their artillery cruisers and their harvesters as well as their planet's architecture. It just screams of malice and uncanniness. And dont get me started on the Harkonnen fireworks looking like blots of ink in the sky. They have such a fleshed out and distinct identity and I feel it adds so much into the immersion into the Dune universe.
Heck yeah, dude. I'm glad you liked it! When it came to the Harkanins' physical appearance, I agree they look great. I really enjoyed the scene in the first movie where Halleck is describing the Harkanins to Paul. And he's clearly afraid of them and says "theyre not human, they're brutal." It really builds them up and makes them even better antagonists.
Glad to hear you liked it my friend! Despite having some small critiques. I will say they definitely managed to fit a lot into one movie! It's tough to balance book accurate lore and casual audience content, but it sounds like you are happy with the balance they struck?
The Nuclear Weapons that weren't used is because all of the Landsraad have essentially just one rule and that is to NOT use them AT ALL, like or else if they do its deemed by the Emperor as a grounds to annihilate their planet (death star style). The only exception, and another reason why the houses keep them is in case they ever are to encounter alien life, which their is a significant lack of aliens in Dune so it kind of makes for an interesting plot point or lore feature dissimilar to that you would typically find in sci-fi, like no computers at all or any aliens. Sure they can assassinate people and you know, go to war with eachother but nukes is their one common thing they all can not do, im sure theyd like to but yk (sorry just lore drop x) )
Wow that's super interesting! That is a crazy plot point. That they all have these massive weapons, but the hold onto them just in case of aliens. I think the part that holds the most weight, though, is how you said the nukes are a no go for everyone. Yet Paul atreides just let them loose. It kind of builds into the fact (in my eyes) that he seems a bit unstable at the end of Dune Part 2. You definitely just added a new level of appreciation for the dune universe in my eyes!! Appreciate the comment and lore info my friend 🫡
hey, the nukes were major for the plot. Paul could only take arrakis once the treat to nuke the spice production spots were in the table. "you can only control what you could destroy"
@@TheThirdFloorofficial Definitely that's right, Paul's character is interesting and changes because Dune is mainly about exploring political/theological/philosophical etc etc themes, and pairing those themes with the amazing cast and teams working on sound, visuals, shots and writing is just beautiful, which is why in my opinion the way the two films have been made have just been so amazing. I imagine it's only setup for 3 films, but if they explore the other 3 books at all it'll definitely become a lot more obvious (and a lot weirder too). At the end Paul's character is meant to be questionable for everyone, is he going insane or is there some future he has seen with his foresight he is trying to achieve, or is he just a bad perspn. I know the books aren't for everyone, but I do recommend it if you want to explore the world more
After reading your comment I'm definitely gonna go get the first 3 books. Like I said I really enjoyed the movies, but the way you described the books seems even more my style. It seems like Paul is in even more interesting and layered character in the books! Very excited to see for myself !
When something is not “your type of thing” does not mean the movie is flawed. It means it did not fully fit your taste. I hope you are not so arrogant as to think your tastes are the arbiter of what makes a movie good.
You are correct!! I can only share the faults of the movie through my eyes. Which would make them opinion based(which I said they were in the video). But as I am not omniscient, that is all I(and everyone else) can do.
The main disappointment stems from long time fans of Dune who were disappointed certain scenes and subplots were cut from the film due to time constraints, would say about 95% of people liked it. There are a few people who disliked the film as it has a "radical" depiction of religion which some people felt uncomfortable with, which is the point of the book and film (bringing to light what is often overlooked in society among other things). I also saw a few people who didn't like the film due to the casting choices but they are few in number and just nitpicking.
I really wanted to dive into the religious tones of this movie as another reason why I personally find it divisive. But that seemed far too politically charged and deviated from my goal of this video, which was just to share a few thoughts I had while talking to people after seeing the movie. Do you think there was anything that they could have added from the books to have made the movie even better for the casual audience?
@@TheThirdFloorofficial nope, Denis Villeneuve already went through great lengths to streamline the narrative for casual viewers in both films. If he wanted to do a rigidly ultra faithful adaptation he could have done that but it would have likely not done as well at the box office. The Dune Saga is about big ideas and is generally very philosophical with little to no emphasis on action. The books get more and more strange and cerebral as you continue to read the saga which obviously meant there would be some changes made in a movie adaptation. For example, in Dune Paul’s sister Alia is “Preborn” due to her mother (The Lady Jessica) undergoing the spice trance by consuming the water of life which is a deadly poison created by drowning a sand trout in water (water is toxic to sand worms and sand trout). The spice trance is a sort of test used by the Bene Gesserit to unlock genetic memory (A science fiction concept wherein the memories of all of your genetic ancestors is somehow encoded into your dna). When Jessica successfully converted the deadly poison using Prana Bindu physiology control (A power the Bene Gesserit gained through selective breeding through their eugenics program spanning many thousands of years) she unlocked her genetic memory but also awakened Alia’s genetic memory as well. This was catastrophic for Alia because she never had the chance to develop a sufficient human ego before unlocking genetic memory meaning she had little means of individuality from all of the “past lives” that resided in her mind. Alia is about three years old by the end of the original Dune novel and is essentially a fully grown adult in a child’s body. She is the one who killed Baron Vladimir Harkonnen in the book and in David Lynch’s 1980s adaptation of Dune. She is cut from Dune part 2 mostly but appears in a vision by Paul using his prescient sight (sight of the future) and is played by Anya-Taylor Joy as a fully grown adult. I could go on but my point is, the movie already goes to great lengths to sort of simplify the narrative to be more palatable to the casual viewer, I don’t think Denis could have added anything else to the two films to meet this goal. The only thing I could think of that I thought was a bummer aside from the unfortunate cut of scenes and subplots was that Feyd-Rutha Harkonnen and the Emperor do not appear as much as I and many others felt they should have in the film. We don’t really see Feyd until the latter half of the 2nd film which is weird because Feyd is present throughout the entire first novel on Giedi Prime and Arrakis. I would have expected to at least have Austin Butler’s Feyd-Rautha present throughout the entirety of the 2nd film but it didn’t really happen like that. The Emperor receives even less screen time than Feyd and it really makes it harder to build up tension around the final encounter with the narrative’s natural antagonists because we get so little time with the characters. Aside from that though I think the film had a pretty perfect balance of catering to the casual viewer and keeping with the spirit of the original Dune narrative.
Wow that was impressive haha. I appreciate all the details and explanations they were honestly super helpful! And I think based on your breakdown, you sound right. Including all of that extra stuff probably would have been a bit too much for us casuals. I've said this in a few comments, but I'm thinking I'm gonna give the books a try now based off of all the cool things I've read from you guys. The books sound even more my style than the movie!
Just saw the movie and it was amazing! They should make a 3rd Dune and film it so that it can be seen on the screen in the Sphere in Las Vegas. This is the PERFECT movie to be seen on that incredible screen. Gotta talk to Villeneuve and see what he thinks?
I'm actually bothered by the fact that the movie is so celebrated. Not the commercial success, but the fact that the story is so celebrated by critics. Because it just doesn't keep up with the books or older SF movies, and the reactions show, from my point of view, how low our expectations have fallen. Dune 2 serves the people who would like to have a proper Star Wars movie but don't get it from Disney. The film is so clear and blunt in character drawing, the strong self-empowered Chani, the cartoonish Harkonnen, Paul, who suddenly makes a 180 degree turn after the water of life and is so clearly portrayed as a villain in the end, he could as well have had a swastika tattooed on his forehead. There's been a lot of talk about Starship Troopers lately because of Helldivers 2. And the evolution of Rico from Starship Troopers is what I would have liked Paul to have done in Dune 2. The direction of development of the character is similar, but in Starship Troopers it's much more subtle, and you're kind of shocked when you realize: Wait a minute, did I just cross my fingers for a fascist? Dune 2 should have created something like that, because that's also kind of the feeling you get when you read Volume 1 or at the latest at volume 2. But yes, the movie looks great. My issues are with the story. It's not the mind food the books are. And I think you are right if with fandom you mean the fandom of the dune books. Maybe I would like the movie more if I didn't know that the story in the books is a better one. I liked Dune 1, it was very close to the books and I hoped Dune 2 would go on like that. Here a quote from a positive review to the movie: "In Dune: Part Two, Villeneuve is less subtle with his choices, being aggressively vocal about the film’s intent, leaving very little room for ambiguity". And yes, that's my issue
Wow that's a very interesting way to look at the movie! I like what you're saying about the film lacking subtlety. I think that's a great way to describe the messages in this movie. And yes, I think from reading the comments, the movie fans and book fans seem to be separated by opinions!! But be careful. I've had a bunch of people coming at me just for being slightly critical about the movie haha
I talked to a few strangers after the movie and they seemed to agree with you about the pacing. I'm not sure if they enjoyed the first more than the second. Would you have done anything differently to make the movie better?
I'm sure it is a great movie but seeing Star Wars for the 1st time when it came out was the single most amazing movie experience of my life. I don't see anything ever changing that but we will see.
I'm with you there! While I hope there will be another movie experience like that for the next generation, I feel like it will be difficult with how saturated the movie industry has become. But like you said , I don't think anything replaces Star Wars 💪💪
Your life experience when you saw Star wars was nothing compared to now. Your standards are much higher after watching thousands of movies and experiencing thousands of stories. You can't possibly have the same experience when you're not the same person.
I also agree with this point. Things have changed so much that we have much less of an appreciation for films. I'm perfectly fine if people say dune is "their star wars". Like this is an amazing film. All I'm trying to get across in my video is that I think it makes people have strong feelings, and it can easily make people form sides. Well said!!
I think your review is quite superficial, the movie is excellent cinematically, visually stunning and has an amazing soundtrack. It’s the first movie franchise since tenet that I have thoroughly enjoyed, however, I say superficial because you did not touch on the true issues. The difference between the movie and the book, Chanis relationship with Paul and the entire gutting of over-half the time that Paul spent with the fremen, resulting in the relationship net being believable at all. That is what is most decisive, how the true fans who read the books with react to the creative liberties taken by the directors.
I appreciate the feedback and think it's completely fair. I personally haven't read the books so I will of course say I am not expert on the events of Dune! And I definitely had to keep the video superficial to fit into a decent time. I know longer videos aren't too popular in the modern media Era. But being a fan of other books turned movies I can definitely see where you're coming from(especially with the Paul and Chani storyline). Appreciate the comment!!
@@TheThirdFloorofficial you should definitely read them! You may find the depiction of Geidi prime to be faithful. I didn’t realize you hadn’t read the books, if was a good video analyzing the movies alone.
Why would this ever be compared to Star Wars? That’s like saying it is better than the notebook. It’s better than the departed. It’s better than shutter Island. Lol
Interesting movie choices haha. But you don't think they're similar? Both sci-fi blockbusters, both take place in space, both have chosen ones, both have special voice powers, both have evil emperors. That's just off the top of my head haha
@@TheThirdFloorofficial star wars is not sci-fi, star wars is fantasy. Like Harry Potter. Which Dune can’t be compared to. If dune can be compared to any fantasy, it would be game of thrones, purely for the political structure between noble houses and vying for the throne. Harkonnens are like the Lannisters and the Atreides are like the starks. As far as chosen ones, dune does not have a chosen one, where star wars does because fantasy is religious. Dune is an atheist’s critique of messiahs, and our world’s current religions - and is meant to demonstrate the opposite as an attack on messiahs. Which is why Paul goes bad. And that his messiahship is pure orchestrated propaganda that has been sown for centuries so that people would be hoodwinked when the breeding program comes to fruition. The author’s intent was to debunk messiahs, not to have one. So they are polar opposite in that way. And star wars “powers” are magical. Aka religious. Dune doesn’t have “powers”. They are explained through natural selection, breeding, and evolution, etc. No magic or powers in sci-fi.
Bro being in the 1% calling devisive and pacing? Bro said pacing 1000 times and failed to explain what exactly was wrong with it rather just said its not generic its different so.. pacing?? Bruh
Bro... I don't think it's "the 1%" but thats fine if that's your opinion. And bro, I said that the pacing was jarring and inconsistent, and it was one of the only things that took me out of being immersed in the story. And third bro, I did say it was a great movie, I just personally think it's gonna make people super opinionated, and it's gonna make people take sides. Not necessarily a bad thing, but definitely cause discussions.
I wish I had read the books prior to seeing the movies! So I will say I am a little in the dark in regards to the Dune universe. Where do you think they strayed the most?
No click bait here amigo. Just a conversation topic I had with friends and a few strangers after seeing the movie. To me it's a movie that causes strong opinions on either side, which is what divisive means. But regardless, you're entitled to your opinion. I appreciate the comment!
Not divisive at all. 99% of people think it's great.
I will gladly say it is getting great reviews online. But my thought process spanned from the reaction I saw in the theater and the discussions I saw after the movie ended. It seemed like people left either amazed or disappointed. As it is I saw the movie with 8 people, 3 of which didn't like it. So I felt that despite the great online reviews, that this movie had the potential to really make people think! Appreciate the comment my friend🫡
i thought the black and white scene looked great. also, i’m pretty sure it wasn’t cgi. there was a behind the scenes thing or something like that i saw and they used a thermal camera for it
Wow I had no idea! I appreciate the heads up. While that does make me appreciate the details of the scene, I still think I'll hold my opinion on the scene in general. So would you keep the scene black and white, or would you have redone the scene in color? Appreciate the comment my friend 🙂
@@TheThirdFloorofficial Also note that the black and white visuals are due to the black sun around Giedi Prime. Notice how when they were indoors the 'man made' lighting makes their natural colours come through. I think it's a nice touch. I think the idea is to make Geidi Prime feel more alien in a harsh and unforgiving way. Also as I was watching the movie the crowd in the stadium scene kind of reminds me of N. Korea and the choreographed cheering when Kim arrives.
Wow, that's a cool way to look at it! I like the way you think haha. But I didn't know that about the planets! It could just be that i haven't read the novels, so I don't have all of the information needed! A lot of the comments on this video are saying I'd probably change my mind on a few things I've I read the books. I'm gonna have to take a look now!! Thanks for the comment!!
@@TheThirdFloorofficial I havent read the novels either. I just love how the Harkonnens are portrayed. Black teeth, no hair, harsh and unforgiving planet the distinct design of their technology IE their artillery cruisers and their harvesters as well as their planet's architecture. It just screams of malice and uncanniness. And dont get me started on the Harkonnen fireworks looking like blots of ink in the sky. They have such a fleshed out and distinct identity and I feel it adds so much into the immersion into the Dune universe.
Heck yeah, dude. I'm glad you liked it! When it came to the Harkanins' physical appearance, I agree they look great. I really enjoyed the scene in the first movie where Halleck is describing the Harkanins to Paul. And he's clearly afraid of them and says "theyre not human, they're brutal." It really builds them up and makes them even better antagonists.
Im Dunhead and I loved it, I missed Thufir etc etc.. but with time we got, we got plenty.
Glad to hear you liked it my friend! Despite having some small critiques. I will say they definitely managed to fit a lot into one movie! It's tough to balance book accurate lore and casual audience content, but it sounds like you are happy with the balance they struck?
The Nuclear Weapons that weren't used is because all of the Landsraad have essentially just one rule and that is to NOT use them AT ALL, like or else if they do its deemed by the Emperor as a grounds to annihilate their planet (death star style). The only exception, and another reason why the houses keep them is in case they ever are to encounter alien life, which their is a significant lack of aliens in Dune so it kind of makes for an interesting plot point or lore feature dissimilar to that you would typically find in sci-fi, like no computers at all or any aliens. Sure they can assassinate people and you know, go to war with eachother but nukes is their one common thing they all can not do, im sure theyd like to but yk (sorry just lore drop x) )
Wow that's super interesting! That is a crazy plot point. That they all have these massive weapons, but the hold onto them just in case of aliens. I think the part that holds the most weight, though, is how you said the nukes are a no go for everyone. Yet Paul atreides just let them loose. It kind of builds into the fact (in my eyes) that he seems a bit unstable at the end of Dune Part 2. You definitely just added a new level of appreciation for the dune universe in my eyes!! Appreciate the comment and lore info my friend 🫡
hey, the nukes were major for the plot.
Paul could only take arrakis once the treat to nuke the spice production spots were in the table. "you can only control what you could destroy"
@@TheThirdFloorofficial Definitely that's right, Paul's character is interesting and changes because Dune is mainly about exploring political/theological/philosophical etc etc themes, and pairing those themes with the amazing cast and teams working on sound, visuals, shots and writing is just beautiful, which is why in my opinion the way the two films have been made have just been so amazing. I imagine it's only setup for 3 films, but if they explore the other 3 books at all it'll definitely become a lot more obvious (and a lot weirder too). At the end Paul's character is meant to be questionable for everyone, is he going insane or is there some future he has seen with his foresight he is trying to achieve, or is he just a bad perspn. I know the books aren't for everyone, but I do recommend it if you want to explore the world more
After reading your comment I'm definitely gonna go get the first 3 books. Like I said I really enjoyed the movies, but the way you described the books seems even more my style. It seems like Paul is in even more interesting and layered character in the books! Very excited to see for myself !
Oh I am equipped. I have a receipt from Best Buy to back me up
When something is not “your type of thing” does not mean the movie is flawed. It means it did not fully fit your taste. I hope you are not so arrogant as to think your tastes are the arbiter of what makes a movie good.
You are correct!! I can only share the faults of the movie through my eyes. Which would make them opinion based(which I said they were in the video). But as I am not omniscient, that is all I(and everyone else) can do.
The main disappointment stems from long time fans of Dune who were disappointed certain scenes and subplots were cut from the film due to time constraints, would say about 95% of people liked it. There are a few people who disliked the film as it has a "radical" depiction of religion which some people felt uncomfortable with, which is the point of the book and film (bringing to light what is often overlooked in society among other things). I also saw a few people who didn't like the film due to the casting choices but they are few in number and just nitpicking.
I really wanted to dive into the religious tones of this movie as another reason why I personally find it divisive. But that seemed far too politically charged and deviated from my goal of this video, which was just to share a few thoughts I had while talking to people after seeing the movie. Do you think there was anything that they could have added from the books to have made the movie even better for the casual audience?
@@TheThirdFloorofficial nope, Denis Villeneuve already went through great lengths to streamline the narrative for casual viewers in both films. If he wanted to do a rigidly ultra faithful adaptation he could have done that but it would have likely not done as well at the box office. The Dune Saga is about big ideas and is generally very philosophical with little to no emphasis on action. The books get more and more strange and cerebral as you continue to read the saga which obviously meant there would be some changes made in a movie adaptation. For example, in Dune Paul’s sister Alia is “Preborn” due to her mother (The Lady Jessica) undergoing the spice trance by consuming the water of life which is a deadly poison created by drowning a sand trout in water (water is toxic to sand worms and sand trout). The spice trance is a sort of test used by the Bene Gesserit to unlock genetic memory (A science fiction concept wherein the memories of all of your genetic ancestors is somehow encoded into your dna). When Jessica successfully converted the deadly poison using Prana Bindu physiology control (A power the Bene Gesserit gained through selective breeding through their eugenics program spanning many thousands of years) she unlocked her genetic memory but also awakened Alia’s genetic memory as well. This was catastrophic for Alia because she never had the chance to develop a sufficient human ego before unlocking genetic memory meaning she had little means of individuality from all of the “past lives” that resided in her mind. Alia is about three years old by the end of the original Dune novel and is essentially a fully grown adult in a child’s body. She is the one who killed Baron Vladimir Harkonnen in the book and in David Lynch’s 1980s adaptation of Dune. She is cut from Dune part 2 mostly but appears in a vision by Paul using his prescient sight (sight of the future) and is played by Anya-Taylor Joy as a fully grown adult. I could go on but my point is, the movie already goes to great lengths to sort of simplify the narrative to be more palatable to the casual viewer, I don’t think Denis could have added anything else to the two films to meet this goal. The only thing I could think of that I thought was a bummer aside from the unfortunate cut of scenes and subplots was that Feyd-Rutha Harkonnen and the Emperor do not appear as much as I and many others felt they should have in the film. We don’t really see Feyd until the latter half of the 2nd film which is weird because Feyd is present throughout the entire first novel on Giedi Prime and Arrakis. I would have expected to at least have Austin Butler’s Feyd-Rautha present throughout the entirety of the 2nd film but it didn’t really happen like that. The Emperor receives even less screen time than Feyd and it really makes it harder to build up tension around the final encounter with the narrative’s natural antagonists because we get so little time with the characters. Aside from that though I think the film had a pretty perfect balance of catering to the casual viewer and keeping with the spirit of the original Dune narrative.
Wow that was impressive haha. I appreciate all the details and explanations they were honestly super helpful! And I think based on your breakdown, you sound right. Including all of that extra stuff probably would have been a bit too much for us casuals. I've said this in a few comments, but I'm thinking I'm gonna give the books a try now based off of all the cool things I've read from you guys. The books sound even more my style than the movie!
Hard pass, but thanks for the idea!
Just saw the movie and it was amazing! They should make a 3rd Dune and film it so that it can be seen on the screen in the Sphere in Las Vegas. This is the PERFECT movie to be seen on that incredible screen. Gotta talk to Villeneuve and see what he thinks?
That would be incredible!! Imagine how Arrakis would look on that screen 😯. Yeah, you gotta hit up Villenueve and let us know what he says, haha
@@TheThirdFloorofficialI wish I had that kinda juice. If enough people say it online then it will become a reality though for sure!
I'm actually bothered by the fact that the movie is so celebrated. Not the commercial success, but the fact that the story is so celebrated by critics. Because it just doesn't keep up with the books or older SF movies, and the reactions show, from my point of view, how low our expectations have fallen. Dune 2 serves the people who would like to have a proper Star Wars movie but don't get it from Disney.
The film is so clear and blunt in character drawing, the strong self-empowered Chani, the cartoonish Harkonnen, Paul, who suddenly makes a 180 degree turn after the water of life and is so clearly portrayed as a villain in the end, he could as well have had a swastika tattooed on his forehead.
There's been a lot of talk about Starship Troopers lately because of Helldivers 2. And the evolution of Rico from Starship Troopers is what I would have liked Paul to have done in Dune 2. The direction of development of the character is similar, but in Starship Troopers it's much more subtle, and you're kind of shocked when you realize: Wait a minute, did I just cross my fingers for a fascist? Dune 2 should have created something like that, because that's also kind of the feeling you get when you read Volume 1 or at the latest at volume 2.
But yes, the movie looks great. My issues are with the story. It's not the mind food the books are.
And I think you are right if with fandom you mean the fandom of the dune books. Maybe I would like the movie more if I didn't know that the story in the books is a better one. I liked Dune 1, it was very close to the books and I hoped Dune 2 would go on like that.
Here a quote from a positive review to the movie: "In Dune: Part Two, Villeneuve is less subtle with his choices, being aggressively vocal about the film’s intent, leaving very little room for ambiguity". And yes, that's my issue
Wow that's a very interesting way to look at the movie! I like what you're saying about the film lacking subtlety. I think that's a great way to describe the messages in this movie. And yes, I think from reading the comments, the movie fans and book fans seem to be separated by opinions!! But be careful. I've had a bunch of people coming at me just for being slightly critical about the movie haha
I Liked The first movie Much better than The second One.Pacing is the issue with Second movie
I talked to a few strangers after the movie and they seemed to agree with you about the pacing. I'm not sure if they enjoyed the first more than the second. Would you have done anything differently to make the movie better?
@@TheThirdFloorofficial Ignore the Believers vs Non Believers Dichotomy and focus More on Building up the antagonists and Other characters.
Ohh interesting idea! A few people have been saying the emperor needed more screen time as well. That could have possibly improved the second act!
Dave, why are you so upset? 😂😂
Dang, name calling... the ultimate sign of intelligence. I bow to your intellect 🙇♂️
Thanks to you I'm going to give doom a try ..
Awesome! Let us know what you think! 🙂
Dune is an amazing movie 10/10
I'm sure it is a great movie but seeing Star Wars for the 1st time when it came out was the single most amazing movie experience of my life. I don't see anything ever changing that but we will see.
I'm with you there! While I hope there will be another movie experience like that for the next generation, I feel like it will be difficult with how saturated the movie industry has become. But like you said , I don't think anything replaces Star Wars 💪💪
Your life experience when you saw Star wars was nothing compared to now. Your standards are much higher after watching thousands of movies and experiencing thousands of stories. You can't possibly have the same experience when you're not the same person.
I also agree with this point. Things have changed so much that we have much less of an appreciation for films. I'm perfectly fine if people say dune is "their star wars". Like this is an amazing film. All I'm trying to get across in my video is that I think it makes people have strong feelings, and it can easily make people form sides. Well said!!
I think your review is quite superficial, the movie is excellent cinematically, visually stunning and has an amazing soundtrack. It’s the first movie franchise since tenet that I have thoroughly enjoyed, however, I say superficial because you did not touch on the true issues. The difference between the movie and the book, Chanis relationship with Paul and the entire gutting of over-half the time that Paul spent with the fremen, resulting in the relationship net being believable at all.
That is what is most decisive, how the true fans who read the books with react to the creative liberties taken by the directors.
I appreciate the feedback and think it's completely fair. I personally haven't read the books so I will of course say I am not expert on the events of Dune! And I definitely had to keep the video superficial to fit into a decent time. I know longer videos aren't too popular in the modern media Era. But being a fan of other books turned movies I can definitely see where you're coming from(especially with the Paul and Chani storyline). Appreciate the comment!!
@@TheThirdFloorofficial you should definitely read them! You may find the depiction of Geidi prime to be faithful. I didn’t realize you hadn’t read the books, if was a good video analyzing the movies alone.
Thank you, I appreciate that! I'm definitely gonna give the books a try. From what I'm reading in the comments, the books sound incredible!
Why would this ever be compared to Star Wars? That’s like saying it is better than the notebook. It’s better than the departed. It’s better than shutter Island. Lol
Interesting movie choices haha. But you don't think they're similar? Both sci-fi blockbusters, both take place in space, both have chosen ones, both have special voice powers, both have evil emperors. That's just off the top of my head haha
@@TheThirdFloorofficial star wars is not sci-fi, star wars is fantasy. Like Harry Potter. Which Dune can’t be compared to. If dune can be compared to any fantasy, it would be game of thrones, purely for the political structure between noble houses and vying for the throne. Harkonnens are like the Lannisters and the Atreides are like the starks. As far as chosen ones, dune does not have a chosen one, where star wars does because fantasy is religious. Dune is an atheist’s critique of messiahs, and our world’s current religions - and is meant to demonstrate the opposite as an attack on messiahs. Which is why Paul goes bad. And that his messiahship is pure orchestrated propaganda that has been sown for centuries so that people would be hoodwinked when the breeding program comes to fruition. The author’s intent was to debunk messiahs, not to have one. So they are polar opposite in that way. And star wars “powers” are magical. Aka religious. Dune doesn’t have “powers”. They are explained through natural selection, breeding, and evolution, etc. No magic or powers in sci-fi.
Bro being in the 1% calling devisive and pacing? Bro said pacing 1000 times and failed to explain what exactly was wrong with it rather just said its not generic its different so.. pacing?? Bruh
Bro... I don't think it's "the 1%" but thats fine if that's your opinion. And bro, I said that the pacing was jarring and inconsistent, and it was one of the only things that took me out of being immersed in the story. And third bro, I did say it was a great movie, I just personally think it's gonna make people super opinionated, and it's gonna make people take sides. Not necessarily a bad thing, but definitely cause discussions.
It was cinematically excellent. The story strayed from the book way to much.
I wish I had read the books prior to seeing the movies! So I will say I am a little in the dark in regards to the Dune universe. Where do you think they strayed the most?
@@TheThirdFloorofficial one of the big ones is Chani's attitude towards the prophecy and when Paul takes Irulan's hand. But there are others.
Even as a non book reader, Chani's attitude surprised me🤷♂️. I'm gonna have to read these books to fill in the gaps haha
Lol here you are again Dave. What's your favorite book series? Let's have a book off.
Now now Dave, use clean words. I do in fact, know what divisive means, though. And I see you refused my book off
Stop clicbaiting, deceiving and dividing. Downvoted.
No click bait here amigo. Just a conversation topic I had with friends and a few strangers after seeing the movie. To me it's a movie that causes strong opinions on either side, which is what divisive means. But regardless, you're entitled to your opinion. I appreciate the comment!
Both movies are pretty mid
Fair enough! What didn't you like about them?
Videos??? I made multiple?? Dang you must be a super fan because I didn't even know that🫡