Just maybe your best video Annique! Slow, deep into the keys in small sections, with careful fingerings and over and over again. It's really comes down to that. Even 10 minutes a day for this cadenza will amaze you a month forward. I was never taught how to practice. Little by little over the years I've learned just what you are saying. You are so right. I hate to practice and am impatient with myself but I'm getting better and having more fun. Now if I can only get the Chopin Ballade G-Minor coda! I have to go back and take your advice on that one. :) Thank you Annique. Best wishes.
I have beem working on Liberstraum for two months now and I can play everything before the second cadenza. Then I stopped practicing liberstraum and started a Beethoven sonata. Thank you very much Mr. Liszt
First, you gotta find the right fingering for "you"(I have seen like 4 or more versions, piano secrets provides easiest, but you can add on change in right hand) And then most importantly! Your gesture with finger and wraist really matters to speed up. It requires a bit more angle than flat style fingering and feeling relaxed, wraist rotates to hit right and left notes. In this case you minimize your finger work, you just move your hands together down, then the cadenza is play through. Let's say, it's actually quite easy to play slow, so don't force yourslef to speed up with mistakes. You will find it amazingly improving after you sleep + wake up. That's how our brain work!
I love your channel so much! I started learning Moonlight Sonata as a self taught first year, and I found your sight reading attempt video on it and it helped me feel like I knew what I was doing.
You know before I stumbled upon this channel when it had around 100 subscribers, I never thought of fingering as anything other than just numbers on fingers you use on the piano keys. But even since the episode where Anique couldn't figure out what it's called in English, and that she's reminded me fingering has an alternate meaning, every time I hear the words fingering it doesn't carry the same meaning anymore 😅 "thanks" to you Anique. 45 years of innocence ruined...
Thanks for another wonderful video. I recently spoke to a friend of mine who a very accomplished pianist on the very topic. Will forward your video to him !!! Wishing you great success on your upcoming concert. I really do love CHOPAN !!!
Yayyy😍 I was waiting for this. Btw if u can do 1min 10min 1hour challange with Polovtsian Dance from Prince Igor, I would be very thankful :)❤ the melody in that piece is just marvelous :')
Awesome video! Lots of helpful tips sprinkled with good humor. You are truly unique Annique! And such an elegant necklace too! Ok, I will go practice my fingerings now…(stop thinking weird!)🤪 Greetings from California! 🤩✌🏻🫶
Unspoken if, but I have had progress with practicing in parallel with housework. 5-15 min goes into muscle memory each time... Brain works on it and make progress, no tension problems.
I just loved this! Well done young lady (that was affection, not patronising). But, after a hard day's gardening, if it's ok with you, I'll go back to practicing this (which, co-incidentally, I am doing) - tomorrow. I'm taking a couple of day's rest from doing exactly what you say - but - my 72 year old fingers don't do what I want - so in the last section I have to use alternate three note chords in each hand - my fingers won't bend quickly enough. But I will try the rest of your fingering and see whether it works better than mine. This is all a problem from not playing for nearly 50 years (or it's an excuse) and if you can dissuade any young people from doing that, in 50 years time they will be grateful to you (that might be a bit difficult for a young person to appreciate). I now have to do daft things to get over the frustration of losing an ability that I once had - like now giving myself a year to play Liszt's Sonata and Hammerklavier - call me daft if you wish - it's now far too late! ;) On the other hand, I could just play your CD.... em... No, I promise I'll practice! I promise.
I practiced! I did! I practiced. Now I'm trying different things. Actually using 4 rather than 5, but then, after carpel tunnel and trigger finger operations, what else can I expect really? But you were really helpful. Thank you.
I like big butts and I cannot Lie Algebra ther brothers cannot deny When a girl walks in with a itty titty group and a big fat round ring wit no zerodivisors I get stiff like a cobordism on a Klein bottle
Est-ce possible de développer / débloquer une bonne technique (surtout en terme de vitesse) malgré des douleurs aux poignets ainsi que de légers problèmes d’articulation ?
I think I have the technique to play most of this piece, but I've never really practiced it because of the 2 cadenzas. But now you have inspired me to try again. Do you 1) First use the fingering in the score then adjust it if needed, or 2) Just come up with the fingerings yourself? or 3) It depends?
You really should look at Dr Molly Gebrian's videos on the latest research on efficient practising, specifically at using breaks, micro-breaks and interleaved practice.
Nice to hear. I am a concert organist and also a organ and pianoteacher all my life. I have also studied to find the right method of practicing. I am happy to notice the recommondations Annique make are really true. I can confirm this. BUT... there are very persistent problems, facts you cannot pass by. I mention a few. The whole muscle system of everybody has to learn to make certain movements and has to learn speed!! The motoric skills of a average beginner needs years and years to increase speed. The speed you need to play an easy Sonata of Haydn will take many years. Like me. I can run maybe as fast as a little child. But I cannot increase my speed twice as much. And besides, probably I will never walk as fast as a grown up boy or girl. (I am 68.) There are several limitations. Maybe to 30% of all pupils have much problems with note reading and a big group suffers form dyslexia. I mean Annique is right about the technique for good players who can read well and who have good motor skills. I feel very committed to pupils and students.
Isnt practicing the same part that are not good at until we improve by at least 1%, for every single day is what we must do when learning any instrument? I have been doing that for the past 2 years since i started learning the instrument :D, i was able to start and finish Liebestraum no 2 in 2-3 months, now i just need to practice the last page then i can proudly claim that im able to Play it. Now im moving to no 3 while practicing no 2 and other exam pieces
almost done with studying this and yes the cadenzas are hard.. but do they need to be played super fast? look at Claudio Arrau, who is one of the best interpreter of Liszt.. but today I hurt one of my finger!!!!
As a guitarist I was shocked to see the number 5 in your fingerings. We only use 1-4 (thumb is behind the fretboard) for the left hand and use Spanish letters for right hand the thumb-p (pulgar), index-i (indice), middle-m (medio), ring-a (anular), and pinky-c (chiquito). Quite a difference. Starting out with the most correct finger movements really does produce the best results, but (as with the piano) they are usually unsupplied, I believe because of individual hand/ finger shapes. So time spent finding the right fingerings for each piece is well worth it. And annoying.
Much as I'm enjoying the language flubs lol, it's not "Everything starts with a good fingering", it's "Everything starts with good fingering" " "A good fingering" is something completely different and has nothing to do with the piano or any other musical instrument. If you think it does, I challenge you to play "Melancholy Baby" on it. Ask a native English speaking friend to explain. Keep up the good work. Love your content.♥ Edit: For those who are getting the wrong end of the stick here, my comment was lighthearted - hint, there's a joke in it - and for those who may have missed Annique's joke because they do not have as excellent a command of English as Ms Göttler, or just enough English to think "a good" is correct and risk tripping themselves up when they use it.
I’m sorry but many of your videos are just unbearable to get through. You could have summed this all up in 2 minutes. But you spent another 4 with random quips and jokes that don’t do anything to add to playing this piece
The shot with the fingerings will save a lot of people a lot of time 👍
Just maybe your best video Annique! Slow, deep into the keys in small sections, with careful fingerings and over and over again. It's really comes down to that. Even 10 minutes a day for this cadenza will amaze you a month forward. I was never taught how to practice. Little by little over the years I've learned just what you are saying. You are so right. I hate to practice and am impatient with myself but I'm getting better and having more fun. Now if I can only get the Chopin Ballade G-Minor coda! I have to go back and take your advice on that one. :) Thank you Annique. Best wishes.
I have beem working on Liberstraum for two months now and I can play everything before the second cadenza. Then I stopped practicing liberstraum and started a Beethoven sonata. Thank you very much Mr. Liszt
First, you gotta find the right fingering for "you"(I have seen like 4 or more versions, piano secrets provides easiest, but you can add on change in right hand)
And then most importantly!
Your gesture with finger and wraist really matters to speed up. It requires a bit more angle than flat style fingering and feeling relaxed, wraist rotates to hit right and left notes.
In this case you minimize your finger work, you just move your hands together down, then the cadenza is play through.
Let's say, it's actually quite easy to play slow, so don't force yourslef to speed up with mistakes.
You will find it amazingly improving after you sleep + wake up. That's how our brain work!
Excellent video, Anique. "Repetition makes permanent". And when you repeat the correct way to play, repetition makes perfect.
"I'm not a wizard" is exactly what a wizard would day. 🤔
I love your channel so much! I started learning Moonlight Sonata as a self taught first year, and I found your sight reading attempt video on it and it helped me feel like I knew what I was doing.
The first was not difficult but the second one almost drove my son crazy....practicing that has a social dimension.
For me the second one is way easier
@@Jk-ow8nyyeah same, it's just a chromatic scale so it's not really a big deal, at least for me
I love 2-4 and 1-3 for the cadenza. Felt much more comfortable to me
Yes me too
I do that, but I use 5-2 on the Ab/Db group. I feel really stable
@@jmc6326yes! 2-4 and 1-3 with 2-5 on the Ab/Db fourth feels the most natural, right?
You know before I stumbled upon this channel when it had around 100 subscribers, I never thought of fingering as anything other than just numbers on fingers you use on the piano keys. But even since the episode where Anique couldn't figure out what it's called in English, and that she's reminded me fingering has an alternate meaning, every time I hear the words fingering it doesn't carry the same meaning anymore 😅 "thanks" to you Anique. 45 years of innocence ruined...
This is good because I’ve just got to the cadenza and have the notes just need some tips. Thanks Annique
Ich bin am 13. Januar in Leipzig dabei. 🎉 Habe schon Karten gekauft und Hotel gleich gegenüber gebucht. 😊
Thankfully, I always practiced thirds on school desks while listening to lectures
Very good tips! I also split the voices in my right hand and practice them seperately.
This chain is sooo beautiful though😳
52/31 is a game changer ! Thanks
This really shows the importance of those Hanon exercises!
Thank you so much, we need a follow up vid for the second cadenza 🙏
Thank you so much ❤ I’m studying this composition and this is really helpful ❤❤❤❤
This video is even better the 2nd time around!! Perfect practice is it. Now do it again! :) Thanks Annique. Love your sense of humor!
The unintentional asmr at the end❤
i'm in love with your videos 🫶
Piano technically way beyond my league yet, but probably one of your funniest videos and great tips! Thumbs up!
Ahhhh lollolololol that was the greatest opening ever!
You're Amazing.!
Your video's are greatly appreciated.!
Super Tipps und schöne Hände. 👍
Excelente video. Saludos, regards, best from Mexico.
Thanks for teaching Annique, you look beautiful
Thanks for another wonderful video. I recently spoke to a friend of mine who a very accomplished pianist on the very topic.
Will forward your video to him !!!
Wishing you great success on your upcoming concert. I really do love CHOPAN !!!
Komme aus Dresden 🗣️🗣️ freue mich
Yayyy😍 I was waiting for this. Btw if u can do 1min 10min 1hour challange with Polovtsian Dance from Prince Igor, I would be very thankful :)❤ the melody in that piece is just marvelous :')
Let's go !!! Nice vid !!!
Awesome video! Lots of helpful tips sprinkled with good humor. You are truly unique Annique! And such an elegant necklace too! Ok, I will go practice my fingerings now…(stop thinking weird!)🤪 Greetings from California! 🤩✌🏻🫶
Can you make a video about the 2nd cadenza as well? Thanks!
I was actually doing the same fingering as yours but I was scared it was wrong thanks a lot :DDDD
Hi Annique. Please show how to practice the 2nd cadenza as well. That one is much worse than the 1st one. lol.
Thank you!!
Literally just finished liebestraum, sadly this vid didnt come out earlier
Unspoken if, but I have had progress with practicing in parallel with housework. 5-15 min goes into muscle memory each time... Brain works on it and make progress, no tension problems.
i liked this
I don't have much struggle playing the first cadenza but the second one is a real problem to me. I guess I have to practice more. T^T
I just loved this! Well done young lady (that was affection, not patronising). But, after a hard day's gardening, if it's ok with you, I'll go back to practicing this (which, co-incidentally, I am doing) - tomorrow. I'm taking a couple of day's rest from doing exactly what you say - but - my 72 year old fingers don't do what I want - so in the last section I have to use alternate three note chords in each hand - my fingers won't bend quickly enough. But I will try the rest of your fingering and see whether it works better than mine. This is all a problem from not playing for nearly 50 years (or it's an excuse) and if you can dissuade any young people from doing that, in 50 years time they will be grateful to you (that might be a bit difficult for a young person to appreciate). I now have to do daft things to get over the frustration of losing an ability that I once had - like now giving myself a year to play Liszt's Sonata and Hammerklavier - call me daft if you wish - it's now far too late! ;) On the other hand, I could just play your CD.... em... No, I promise I'll practice! I promise.
I practiced! I did! I practiced. Now I'm trying different things. Actually using 4 rather than 5, but then, after carpel tunnel and trigger finger operations, what else can I expect really? But you were really helpful. Thank you.
I don't have a routine. I just absorb all the songs in my mind and my fingers. Shaking my head..
But, but... the difficult one is the second one xD
Practice makes better🥊
i think your wrong. Practice makes what you eat
@@jackisinforthewinWhat.
there's an uncomfortable amount of "buts" in this video
Just the right amount. Certainly made me laugh out loud
There is no such thing as an "uncomfortable amount of butts"
I like big butts and I cannot Lie
Algebra ther brothers cannot deny
When a girl walks in with a itty titty group and a big fat round ring wit no zerodivisors
I get stiff like a cobordism on a Klein bottle
@@misterdubsteppamy guy
Not enough I'd say.
Could you do a video on how to use a metronome Annick, please😊?
she is soo pretty.
She is😋
Est-ce possible de développer / débloquer une bonne technique (surtout en terme de vitesse) malgré des douleurs aux poignets ainsi que de légers problèmes d’articulation ?
I think I have the technique to play most of this piece, but I've never really practiced it because of the 2 cadenzas. But now you have inspired me to try again.
Do you 1) First use the fingering in the score then adjust it if needed, or 2) Just come up with the fingerings yourself? or 3) It depends?
um. weird question, but where'd you get your necklace? it's awesome and i need one.
You really should look at Dr Molly Gebrian's videos on the latest research on efficient practising, specifically at using breaks, micro-breaks and interleaved practice.
Nice to hear. I am a concert organist and also a organ and pianoteacher all my life. I have also studied to find the right method of practicing. I am happy to notice the recommondations Annique make are really true. I can confirm this. BUT... there are very persistent problems, facts you cannot pass by. I mention a few. The whole muscle system of everybody has to learn to make certain movements and has to learn speed!! The motoric skills of a average beginner needs years and years to increase speed. The speed you need to play an easy Sonata of Haydn will take many years. Like me. I can run maybe as fast as a little child. But I cannot increase my speed twice as much. And besides, probably I will never walk as fast as a grown up boy or girl. (I am 68.) There are several limitations. Maybe to 30% of all pupils have much problems with note reading and a big group suffers form dyslexia. I mean Annique is right about the technique for good players who can read well and who have good motor skills. I feel very committed to pupils and students.
After being surprised by Principal Skinner's butt, I know that you are not only a great pianist, but(t) also a great video editor 🤣
Isnt practicing the same part that are not good at until we improve by at least 1%, for every single day is what we must do when learning any instrument? I have been doing that for the past 2 years since i started learning the instrument :D, i was able to start and finish Liebestraum no 2 in 2-3 months, now i just need to practice the last page then i can proudly claim that im able to Play it. Now im moving to no 3 while practicing no 2 and other exam pieces
I like your kind of humor 😏
Do you have any plan to play in USA?
almost done with studying this and yes the cadenzas are hard.. but do they need to be played super fast? look at Claudio Arrau, who is one of the best interpreter of Liszt.. but today I hurt one of my finger!!!!
Are you ending this video without posting the complete fingering for the 2nd cadenza?
All I got out of it was to use the fingering and practice for 40 hours a day.
How did u use the pedal in the cadenza? Can u explain
Annique has changed since the "pregnant streams"
This is crazy i don't expect you.
When she says now she means NOW
Ayo, our amazing Annique posted another video!
Reallt? I think this is easier than anything after it in this piece/song
Don't just practice until you've got it right; practice until you can't get it wrong.😅
I don´t use the fifth finger for this cadenza. Always the fourth. On the right hand I mean of course.
いつもめっちゃかわいい❤
Pregnant video annique
Ling Ling 40 hour per day practice time.
As a guitarist I was shocked to see the number 5 in your fingerings. We only use 1-4 (thumb is behind the fretboard) for the left hand and use Spanish letters for right hand the thumb-p (pulgar), index-i (indice), middle-m (medio), ring-a (anular), and pinky-c (chiquito).
Quite a difference.
Starting out with the most correct finger movements really does produce the best results, but (as with the piano) they are usually unsupplied, I believe because of individual hand/ finger shapes. So time spent finding the right fingerings for each piece is well worth it. And annoying.
Well, she sits on the Piano bench, derriere😊🚭🌐😇🛡️🏆🍿🧈🌌🎹Lovely Fingering!
"OK, OK, you little Piano Pussies..."
funny, I‘m currently practising the second cadenza of this piece.
I have already performed it many times, but I will also watch
Also good luck with it, its so fun when you master it ❤
@@ChalumeauCauchemarLOL thank you very much!
Yeah i made it halfway then got frustrated 😂
@@onehundredpicks5531 at least (I assume) it didnt take you almost 2 years to get to this part… thats how I bad I am
@@psSubstratum actually took me almost 2 to get it because i would get distracted learning other songs 😂
🤣😂😭 how you opened up the video lmao
It doesn't help when the score squeezes the entire cadenza in half a line and it's basically unreadable. 😭
💚💚💙
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I think second cadenza is much more difficult for me.
i suggest using thumb for white keys and second finger for black keys
😮
Not as many as "like" when young people talk nowadays
how many expert catholic pianists are there?
have the House of Medici captured all possible creative pathways yet or what?
But
Still too hard 💀💀💀💀
Much as I'm enjoying the language flubs lol, it's not "Everything starts with a good fingering", it's "Everything starts with good fingering" " "A good fingering" is something completely different and has nothing to do with the piano or any other musical instrument. If you think it does, I challenge you to play "Melancholy Baby" on it. Ask a native English speaking friend to explain.
Keep up the good work. Love your content.♥
Edit: For those who are getting the wrong end of the stick here, my comment was lighthearted - hint, there's a joke in it - and for those who may have missed Annique's joke because they do not have as excellent a command of English as Ms Göttler, or just enough English to think "a good" is correct and risk tripping themselves up when they use it.
Im pretty sure it was said that way on purpose bro, and it can be said either way😭
Simply depends on context
@@unbothered_kayo Nope. Not in this case.
Yeah...dude that was clearly a joke
@@AnthonyB2351Bro it does depend on context. Either sentence can be referring to a completely different action if used in a certain way
Annique, Horowitz said that there were Jewish pianists, gay pianists and bad pianists...as I am a bisexual does that mean I can be half decent?
no
I’m sorry but many of your videos are just unbearable to get through. You could have summed this all up in 2 minutes. But you spent another 4 with random quips and jokes that don’t do anything to add to playing this piece
Just be thankful she took time and effort to help.
@@ntjonk Except she didn’t help. I ended up going to another video because she took too long to get to the point. It’s advice for the future.
Did you call us piano pussies? You made my day, Annique! Then used the word “fingering” 600 times. My heart is melting. 🫠❤️🔥
This realy helps me a lot thank u!
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