G.P. radioed, “This might be our best opportunity now, Max. Think wisely.” And Max promptly did overtake George Russell! Great communication that wins races...
@@calebhernandez4233 no, the first pit stop of Max was 1.9. the second was 2.8. If you compare the pitstops you also have to include the 5,6s pitstop of George Russell. Because of that, Lando came in front. So a lil bit of pitstop luck
I don’t understand this. Do y’all really think Max was just gonna sit behind Russell for a few laps so Norris can get behind him and in DRS. GP didn’t need to tell him that he was already doing it
What are you talking about? It definitely was George's battle. Mercedes was fighting norris and max the whole race. Why not take the last chance at a P2@@EredarLordJaraxxus
@@matthijsweststrate5552 they feel like lando lost the win because of it but in reality it was all because of his start. Idk if they expect George to just wave lando past in races, not like he's a racing driver or anything 🤷♂️
The problem is that everyone wants to vote for the underdog. Lando might have been the fastest, but he's not the three-time world champion. So in people's minds, even if Max drove better, Lando is the "challenger" who by even threatening Max at all deserves to be driver of the day because he's the one making F1 interesting right now, taking the fight to Max. I'm not saying it's right, but I don't think it's blind fanboyism. 2023 being so dominant really didn't help either so people just kinda think "Max in P1, business as usual" and don't really care how he got there or how impressive his drive actually was.
World championship race #1111 was won by car #1. The rising number one of formula one, Juan, one wonders, should Juan only win one formula one one year, would Juan want to have won that one in round one, Juan?
Also, I don’t think Lewis is referring to being sabotaged, so the fans need to calm down. I think he is stating the obvious, as he is leaving the team, the team will not be developing the car around him as much any more and more around Russell, hence why Lewis thinks Russell will now have the upperhand. People need to apply logic, but sadly for many fans that does not exist.
Apparently it's coming from somewhere outside the team and the police are involved. As Toto put it (paraphrasing obviously), there would be no benefit to the team to hobble one of the drivers, they're both needed to score high points.
Problem is that Lewis has done statements like "the new parts are not on my car" and later we found out he was given the option but he didn't want the new parts because if he damaged them he wouldn't have a spare. And those kinds of narratives where he's is implicitly saying the team is favoring Russel, while he chose it himself, isn't going to help the TeamLH bandwagon see logic.
The beauty of this situation is that we do not need to speculate at all 😊. Lewis Hamilton does not need to talk 🤐. George Russell does not need to talk 🤫. Toto Wolff does not need to talk 👄🚫. . . First qualifying session next year, we'll see what's up 🧐.
I had no idea of these conspiracies with LH lol My favourite driver but I just genuinely believed he was just on a bad run of being in poor form. Nothing more nothing less.
From what I interpreted from Lewis's quali comments were that Merc weren't going to follow his advice on which way to develop the car. Which makes sense given that he's out of the team. So the car will become more and more suited to George, as he's the team's future. And it's 100% the right thing to do. But a small portion of delusional vocal Lewis fans took the statement severely out of the context and spun a conspiracy theory with it. It's similar to Alonso Lewis in, 2007, when Alonso fans were screaming sabotage. If you have a big enough fan base, there will be a few bad eggs that make the entire fanbase seem like biased idiots.
@@nanashiamaterasu8155the delusion on these LH fans is worryingly bad. Like what does a person like that think in normal situations where they need to use common sense? I am genuinly scared of how these people behave, and the fact that most of them probably can vote😂😣
Before watching, I checked the thumbnail's question and then went back to check the 2021, 2020, 2019 and 2018 Spanish Grands Prix ... and I have to respond: "Nothing that didn't happen to Ricciardo, Gasly and Albon to an equal or lesser degree."
The thing is, Red Bull is a car capable of winning both championships. Back then, they were 3rd most of the time and could never challenge for championships. Now they should win both but probably won’t because of Perez. Perez is underperforming.
Max and Daniel were very close in 2018. Daniel had a ton of bad reliability luck in races and a handful of poor team decisions in quali that hurt him. Now, Max is clearly the better driver, but the team did not lose out on points often because of poor performance by Daniel like they have with Sergio. Love Perez and was excited to see him land that seat for 2021, but there is no reason they should have given him a 2 year extension.
This race was specifically ruled that if you take that outside path, it will not be considered leaving the track and gaining an advantage even if you overtake someone.
Plz watch the race, when Carlos bumped in Charles, Charles was steering towards right side to avoid bumping into Carlos, 55 bumped, damaged charles FW, he ran wide n rejoined the race, if that was with someone else that was a slam dunked penalty. Ferrari is being Ferrari in not being assertive
@@EverSoPossiblyPat haha you’re the one who was blind , Charles car was completely on the curb , where was he supposed to go… btw the the curb is white and red one … in case you are color blind !!
19:50 I don't think Mercedes is sabotaging Lewis but rather shifting focus to Russell when it comes to future development on the car. Russell is the future. Remember what Albon said about the Redbull and Max, "Max likes a pointy car and you just have to follow and get used to that". Essentially they are bringing updates based on data and feedback of the number 1 driver.
@@huh4206The difference is that RBR still had the chance to keep Ricciardo at the time. All Marko had to do was shut his damn mouth. Hamilton is already gone.
@@jsmr451 only someone who has no clue about tyre temperature, overheating, and dirty air would say something like this. Literally everybody said that it was crucial for Max as well to overtake Russel immedietly...also if Max would have been faster Lando wouldnt have gone faster after Russel pitted than Verstappen did all the way the first stint. You have literally no clue about what you are talking about watch a bit of telemetry then you might change your opinion
Why is everyone saying Norris had tyre advantage on softs at the end. Max pitted for a brand new set and 3 laps later Norris pitted for a scrubbed set with 3 laps life in them. They literally had the same age of tyres at the end
For this race Perez is finishing that much behind Max is not surprising, he started P11 and finished P8. In Spain you lose so much time and tire life overtaking. Oscar started P10 and finished P7 in a car that was arguably quicker this weekend.
Pérez also had a 3-stop race and all his soft tyres were used, nothing fresh left. bad (slow) pitstops also cost him time. He/we/they will have wanted more from him but I'm not sure if it was possible considering everything. at least he broke the spell of early elimination in Q and the spell of dnf via crash.. oh well, just wanting to stay hopeful and optimistic.
9th fastest car with nowhere near enough load, old rear wing, etc but daniel ricciardo managed to overtake 3 cars and in the end became the only driver with negative tyre degradation, that too on two different compounds. drivers can do it if they put effort into it like oscar piastri managed his tyres well when it's been one of his biggest criticisms
my favourite moment was when lando was asked to pit inorder to cover hamilton but he said he will "pass him" on track...😅the tone of that statement was absolutely menacing😅
From what I remember, 3 times McLaren strat team has asked Lando what the strategy should be and all three times it hasn’t panned out the best way. Last time in Canada, yesterday in Spain and the all famous Russian GP
This time it was not the strategy. My opinion is it was the right strategy this time. Maybe couldve pitted 2laps earlier on the first stint. But that start worked out for them.
@@NicotineRosberg Well in all honesty, normally when they are doing strategy things, he's kinda busy.. And all drivers are strapped into a missile whipping around a 14 turn track with 19 other goofballs.. Sooooo.. how really smart are any of them lol..
I think George should get points in driver ratings for his amazing overtake at the start and the multi turn battle he had with Lando. George is a master of entertainment.
The thing is there's a team difference also in this equation. Red Bull are very assertive in their decisions, and they're made almost esclusively by the pit wall. McLaren are always asking Lando what he thinks, and he doesn't see the whole picture of the race. Red Bull strategy team are more professional.
Is this not exactly what we have seen since Gasly was there? I don't think Perez, Gasly, or Albon was bad: rather the car is not as good as Max makes it look.
@@SuperPassionflowerBased on free practice, the current RB loses a lot of front downforce during the corners causing a lot of understeer on exit. To resolve this, RB will be needing to put a lot of front wing on the car making it very oversteer-y. Checo obviously isn’t liking this so either his setup is similar to Max, or he’s dialling out the front wing which is making it just understeer throughout the corner and unable to rotate through the corners, losing Checo massive time.
@@cg_2k72 yes exactly the problem that has its effect and affect on Checo's performance and that make it quite a struggle to find the best balance to suit him better. makes good sense how you describe it. Max and Checo are so different in their driving style and preferences. All those comments made all over saying Checo is crap etc etc, that's total rubbish and undeserved. He's a good driver capable of doing amazing things, but where Max had a love-relation with RB19 and to a lesser degree with RB20 now it shows issues... Checo has had a struggling "relationship" with the cars.
The amount of Checo copium is crazy. He has barely deserved that seat since he joined. He got the seat cus of $$$ and has kept it because of it too. All this cry-babyness about the car being the 'problem' just does not stand anymore, and hasn't for over 2 years.
McLaren had a much faster car, according to himself. Max is just brilliant. You can't defeat Max in just a better car, you need a much better car than Max to defeat him
@@Amory98 That isn't really true... This race could have very easily proved that statement wrong had lando not been behind George for 5 laps and had better pit stops. He finished 2.5 seconds from max and was held back for a solid 4 seconds
@@ksey7144 and you don't think Max was managing the gap? Winning by 0,1 sec is enough...... Your logic is very simple, it doesn't work that way. Same as "if we had a few more laps"................. 🤣🤣
@@Eric-rf1is Mate the logic is fine, if you re read what I said you would notice I didn't say he would have 100% beaten max, it is a what if statement... I said it could have easily been proven wrong meaning it was possible... My point was Lando would have and did have pace to catch and rival that of Max given the gap wasn't extended, kinda clear.....Obvious Max was preserving tires but that isn't relevant as my 'what if' statement is reducing the gap by a few seconds meaning he would have had to push a fair amount.. Not hard.
Loving this new attitude from Lando that wins give him loads of confidence. Is it just me but the only team mates that actually are working at the moment are the McLaren's?
It would be a legal nightmare for a team to sabotage a driver. Teams have shareholders/investors, and as companies they have a legal obligation to maximize profits for their shareholders/investors. If they sabotage a driver and lose prize money in the constructor's championship, they would 100% be sued to hell.
Best they could do is favor one over the other. Realistically stone information on development might be withheld from Hamilton but not likely with nefarious intent.
Lmao tell that to Nelson Piquet or Trulli they weren’t sabotaged by Briatore Barrichello, Massa, Bottas and Perez were also sabotaged quite frequently. Team orders to hand over wins are clear cut sabotage.
It’s not really a legal nightmare for the team. At least from the fiduciary POV you reference. Dubious actions made by teams is something that has happened in the past. Never has it been handled as a fiduciary breach at least in this sense. It’s far fetched as an argument, and it can be reasonably be argued that their actions were focused on long term value with a short term cost, whether successful or not. Employees may lose their jobs. Drivers might have some employment related claim (imo dubious but I’ve read some opinions where EU law might consider a case) The big liability for a team would be if the FIA determines that the team is in breach of the regulations and penalized the team, and bans/fines the team or personnel for a period of time. Both of which have happened. It hasn’t happened because the team play favourites. Teams could also be in hot water with sponsors if there’s any sort of morality clauses designed to protect the brands that sponsor them. The other factor, most or all of these teams are not publicly traded. They have a handful of shareholders. Which can include public corps, but they are still private corps, with only a few shareholders to represent. And a parent company is a shareholder. Not a fiduciary. At worst it’s an underperforming asset. But it still probably fell within their operating requirements. It still made money, just not as much. Or it provided non cash value. I.e marketing value.
i think the 'Driver of the day award' is also more of an opportunity for us fans to get more moment of the driver we want to hear from. i.e. Seb's driver of the day in Abu Dhabi 2021, I'm sure it was a moment for us to hear Seb being greatful on the radio one last time
2021 AD DOTD was kimi raikkonen his last race but Seb was in 2022 AD his last race but thoes races is not bad just to honored both of them in their last races simple as that but the way Lando won this race DOTD is joke of Award
I think that if Red Bull had done George's strategy, he would have gotten second yesterday. His tyres were fine (as per his radio) and they still pitted him for hards. And then the slow pitstops on top of that... It seems they had agreed on the tyre strategy before the race and then didn't want to be flexible when he made that move
Lol people just don't want to call it as it is because it'll make Lando look "bad" but McLaren has had the fastest car over the last few races, Lando simply just makes too many mistakes, the ONLY reason why the RB is still winning is because of Max. Any other "top tier" driver driving that car and that RB may consistently finish 3rd or 4th and occasionally win. It's not as bad as Perez makes it seem but it's not nearly as good as Max is making it seem. Without Max it would be extremely clear that McLaren is the fastest car right now.
Ye if rb where not that much better the year before people would call max the goat of f1 for having pretty much the second at best car and still leading by that much. Lando gets out qualified so many times by over 0.2 sec even tho piastri isn't the best qualifier he can easily handle lando most of the time showing how much lando is missing out.
It's also funny how he never get penalized for clear incidents because F1 wants him to desperately win and challenge Max for the championship. 1. Jump start in Jeddah - Not called cause "sensor" wasn't working. Slam dunk penalty case to anyone with working eyeballs. 2. Cuts 1st corner in Canada, forcing Russell who was ahead of him off the racing line, making Russell lose 1.5s and closing the gap to him at the same time - No investigation. 3. Forces Max completely off the track like he isn't even there at the start of the race in Spain - No investigation.
@@AAO98 "completely off the track" Bro Max still had half his car on the track. I also love the fact that the drivers ASKED for this. They said they wanted to be allowed to race harder, and now they can and you're complaining? Max didnt even have a problem with it lmao 💀💀💀 The Canada incident literally got investigated but they didnt penalise Norris bcs he didnt gain any lasting advantage from it. I really love it when people think the FIA is some sort of group of bias corrupt bastards. When in reality, they're just idiots. Sainz literally overtook off track in Spain, yet he didnt get a penalty, Alonso got 3 penalty points for ruining his Chinese Sprint, yet Carlos got 1 for ruining Piastri's race in Miami. Max LITERALLY raced so obviously dirty in the final three rounds of 2021, yet they did not penalise all of his incidents, only some. They have always been like this, idk why people act like the swedish FIA are somehow either anti-Max or British bias, they have the same inconsistency for the entire grid. Magnussen is a ley example of that, he has done so much shit and they arent giving him penalty points anymore bcs they dont want to give him a race ban...
I heard them say in the broadcast that if a driver correctly took the runoff section and correctly joined the track, it was acceptable and not gaining a place while leaving the track. 31:26
Correct. It seemed odd, but I guess the race director had assessed that it wasn't an advantage to go out there. Maybe between the kerb and it being dirty that there was no time savings and a risky purposeful maneuver.
You should know Race Director's Notes allow using *the escape at turn 1 that Sainz used* as long as you rejoin to the left of the bullard without penalty
What everyone should remember at the end of race talks with the drivers, let alone the radio calls in-race, is that despite years of experience (including as far back as karting), they're all still hyped up with adrenaline. It takes a fair time for it all to go away. They may not even admit it to themselves, but I've been watching F1 and countless other forms of 2 & 4-wheel racing for over 50 years, and I can spot a still-buzzing driver a mile away. This is why I don't take any bitching too seriously at that point. Also it doesn't help driver relationships when the media (I'm talking about the big names that the drivers are likely to pay attention to) pick up tiny things and blow them all out of proportion, and then keep on at them at every opportunity. I'd rather see the clean, fun competition on the track that I'm sure the drivers would prefer.
Regarding the Sainz overtake from OB: According to the Sky Broadcast the Stewards direction this weekend was that as long as you took the run off and went around the bollard it didn't matter if you overtook someone, because it was considered a longer distance. So, that's why there was no penalty.
Checo is failing purely based on what Albon said about RB's this time of the year - the car is on the sharpest of knife edges as they've developed the car by mid year, and checo cant adapt. Every single driver at RB except Ricciardo had the same isssue every year
The McLaren seems to struggle more in dirty air than the Red Bull, but Perez says he was cooking his tires in dirty air as well. That said, Perez still made up 3 places whereas Piastri only made up 2 places relative to their respective starts despite Perez’s strategy being inferior to Piastri’s. Credit to Piastri, though, he’d still have a lead on Perez even if Perez hadn’t run a three-stopper.
Off topic BUT I think fastest pitstop during the race should go for 1 constructors point. It would be an incentive for lower teams to get points and it makes pitstops even more fun/exciting. Just an award at the end of the year feels like an injustice to the pit crew 🤷♀
They just altered the rules last seasons to slow down the pitstops for 'safety' reasons. Adding an incentive to speed it up again for some 'non-race related' point seems a bit counterproductive.
@@Snaakie83wait what??? Isn’t it the pace of the car in pit lane that was reduced?? What does that have to do with pit stop time. Or am I missing something
@@pretheeshs9383 Mercedes forced in a new rule back in '21 or '22... The mechanics can't start moving their tools before the car is fully stopped or something like that. Before Red Bull was doing 1,96 sec pitstops and Mercedes claimed it was 'unsafe' ...and FIA suddenly dropped a new rule in order to slow the pitstops down. The maximum drive thru speeds alter every race because some tracks have very crowded or small pitlanes and others have wide and roomy pitlanes. And those rules have been around for a while. So the pitstops are about a second slower since...
but that could just have a backmarker team like sauber just keep doing pitstops because they're not getting anywhere in the race, and they'll get points for nothing
and pit crew is as much involved in a win or a loss as the drivers or the engineers or the mechanics. so their reward for good pitstop is their driver winning or getting points, or undercutting another for a better position etc.
I feel like McLaren are now going through the growing pains that Redbull went through a few years ago when they really started having a car that could compete.
I think re: Perez it might be something along the lines of what Albon has said in a few interviews: that Max asks for upgrades in the car that suit is driving style and the team just goes along with that without regard for the teammate. Maybe the initial car suits both equally and then is made more in line with Max’s style to the detriment of Checo. If there isn’t a genuine car-related reason then actually wtf is going on
People are on Perez for not being able to pass. But Lando and Russell situation proves it was difficult to pass. We had a large number of overtakes, but that’s because we had unequal cars and unequal strategies. If cars were fairly equal, it WAS tough to pass.
Carlos is a very talented driver, but it sure feels like he's become quite the complainer whenever he gets into it with someone and it doesn't go his way. His complaint about Hamilton "bumping" him was just a milder version of his complaint about Piastri supposedly illegally overtaking him earlier in the season (I forget which race) and trying to negotiate by effectively saying "just give me the place back and I won't get you in trouble." It's a somewhat classless stain that Sainz can really do without. It certainly doesn't endear him to me.
It wasn't Piastri overtaking him, it was him overtaking Piastri at Miami where he took a penalty for the exact same crime. Either just slag Sainz off or get your facts right, but at least choose one.
Now just go back to last year Spanish GP. Lap 56 like almost EXACTLY same situation happened between Yuki and Zhou even the same corner only difference is that Zhou took escape route so they wont collide and Sainz didnt and they collide and Yuki got penalty for it but Lewis didnt. If they want to be consistent then Lewis should get penalty same as Yuki did.
@@marekbuhla6729 learn the rules, Hamilton's tyre was beside the seat position of Carlos, that means now you have to leave space for the driver behind, Carlos didn't and hit Hamilton. Carlos had the space, there was loads of it,but he chose to squeeze Hamilton and the stewards followed the rules and didn't give out a penalty. Again, read the rules.
I dont agree that Mclaren is the fastest car right now. Max seemed to have a lot more in him, he was just maitaining the gap. I think if he couldve extended the gap if he needed to
@@josemonsajiThe RB20 isn‘t even close to being faster than the McLaren since Miami, that’s factually false so what are you even waffling about. Delusional clown, holy shit. Norris has ducked the Max test at RB 3 times already because he knows that Max would humble him in equal cars. Get real mate
The back & forth Norris/Russell that lasted for half a lap around the race midpoint was perhaps the battle of the season so far. Either that or Ocon/Gasly in Miami lap 1.
yeah cuz he had a 7 second pit stop and had to push to defend way earlier than he should have he lost 6 seconds in pits today after that first pit if he had a normal pit he would have been right behind max on warm tires
For everyone yelling about Russell's tire management, here's what actually happened. Tires were fine, Hamilton was about 0.05 - 0.1s faster on equal mediums, Russell lost \~4 seconds on the slow stop, and the team just chose to go to plan B with Russell because of that. 40:30-41:30 Engineer: "Very happy with tire management at the moment" Russell: "Personally I feel I'm pushing a little bit too hard in high speed" Engineer: "We are happy, the numbers we're seeing, we are happy with what you're doing on the tires.... traction metrics look very good too" 43:55 Russell: "I'm still pushing hard in the high speed I feel... remind me target lap?" Engineer:" Currently target minus 5, we are happy with the pushing level in the high speed." 49:13 Engineer: "Target minus 5" 50:30 Engineer: "So George, this will be Plan B" Lando passed Hamilton seconds after the Plan B message, so the battle between Norris and Russell hadnt happened yet when the decision was already made. No message to let Norris by while losing minimum time which you could argue he should have known but still the pit wall should be on top of these things. Merc strategy and race management dept need an overhaul.
Guys, the stewards apparently made it clear that if you went on the LHS of the bollards in turn 1, there would be no penalty. I am surprised that you seem to be unaware of that.
As a Hamilton fan, I completely don't understand why on Earth would Mercedes would sabotage the best driver in their history. I don't believe at all in these conspiracies
Not even that, but how are you gonna advertise yourself as a team? What driver would ever sign to a team that wouldn’t push both drivers forward as best as they can. 😅 It makes no sense. I’m not a Lewis Hamilton fan, and even I’m saying it makes no sense, any way you look at it.
Checo's problem: Adaptability. It's his main issue, no doubt. When the car had been upgraded a little bit, the characteristics of the car would change a little bit and he can't adapt it. Easy. In his previous experience, he stayed in the mid field team and they didn't often upgrade the car. Also, he dnf too much and made a huge loss under budget cap. He can't take more risk to push the car.
No its not. You can’t do that as a teammate. It’s stupid especially when the team sets out a plan. He completely fell off the pace either way because he sucks at Tyre management. The reason he put on hards was because he sucks at Tyre management and couldn’t get softs to the end. Charles finished 7 seconds ahead of him for a reason. A podium was on for them today and that incident at lap 3 is what made Ferrari lose out on that. If you have a driver with better pace (Charles), don’t let them get stuck behind the guy that has terrible race pace for 20 laps. And you act like Carlos doesn’t cry after races. Look how he is with Oscar and how rude he is. Or during the race crying about Lewis. You guys say Charles is too “soft” but then when he says something a little off the PR script he’s “sooooo crazy.” Get a grip. It’s a competitive sport. And if you don’t agree that Charles is the better driver, Charles is currently on a 14-0 streak against sainz since China. 14 consecutive session that’s he out qualified him and finished ahead of him
Just want to point out something about DOTD. A few people use it to boost their fantasy teams. I always give Lando the 2x DRS because there is a good chance he will win it and that's a solid 20 points for me.
he isn't the torpedo anymore from his younger years, also the other driver matters. Lando,Leclerc,Sainz alsways allows for fair racing, Russell not so much.
mclaren have had the fastest car for like 4 races already. i really think that driver of the day shouldnt be given to those on the podium. dotd is suppose to lift out a driver that did well but isnt in the spotlight. those on the podium got their reward, its the podium they got.
It's not "because he lost the car in Melbourne". It's "he hasn't had the same car since Jeddah". Logan has literally driven most of the season with a heavier, worse car than his teammate.
James even came out that the car was .3 slower than Albons And on top of that the David Coulthad joke about Logan it was actually Alex Albon who hit the ballard it was debunked by Ky Millian an F1 photographer who had the notes Logan drove the Black Mercedes and Albon drove the White Mercedes
Is hamilton being sabotaged - no. Has Mercedes focus changed given that Lewis is leaving - possibly. And Prezez I suspect its a similar situation. Perez had some bad races a couple of years ago so red bull, knowing that Max is going to destroy everyone, are focusing more on Max because its virtually guaranteed max points. The unfortunate downside is it makes Perez look worse.
Remember Lewis claiming the same thing in 2007 against Alonso. He got Max Mosely to have a FIA rep in the garage to prove it wasn't happening. Total joke
Am I the only one who believes that Max still had the fastest car tho? He gapped both George and Lando twice, and was preserving his tires as he didn’t need to push as hard on a cold track.
Look at perez for the real quality of the car, which is worsen by his driving. Unless you're one of those who still think Max's car is different for some insane reason.
@@shaunonig1979 Ummmm because he only needs to win by .001... You also notice when Lando got to 5 seconds, Max kept it right there.. He didnt let Lando get closer.. After that Max just cruised.. He didnt need to push as hard and was able to be careful. Lando NEVER let up JUST in case Max slipped up.. If Lando would have been closer, Max would've picked up the pace..
Albon explained in an interview exactly why Max's teammates get worse over the year. They keep tuning the car more and more to his preferences that makes it harder and harder for a driver to keep up with if they aren't on the same level as him, which noone is. edit: which you started talking about like a minute after I typed this :D We have our answer, why keep pondering it?
No. It isn't that they tune the car to Max's preferences. Newey explained in an interview that the engineers try to build the car that will go the fastest and introduce upgrades that will add more pace. Which generally makes the car more pointy as Alex Albon explained in that interview. And he also said that Max Verstappen has an unnatural ability to drag pointy cars around a race track that most other drivers will struggle with. The more stable the car, the slower it is and vice versa. Drivers like Senna, Michael, Max and others have the ability to drive unstable cars that can go fast if they are able to handle them, while other not as great drivers can't and require the rear ends to be more stable, thereby compromising performance and speed.
@@navysingh5454 Albon also explained that he himself rather prefers pointy cars, but that Verstappen operates on a totally different dimension in that sense. He made the comparison to a computer mouse, when you configure it at its most sensitive. You move it minimally and it disappears from the screen, just uncontrollable. Somehow Verstappen is able to handle it, without the rear escaping from under him.
@@pdehaan2004 You are absolutely correct. I was just trying to explain in a basic manner that the notion the car is built towards Max Verstappen is factually inaccurate. They try to build the fastest cars that become more and more difficult to drive and Verstappen has the ability to adjust but his teammates can't as the season progresses and more upgrades come in.
To weigh in on the Perez situation, he did not start the year well, he was 4 seconds ahead of Sainz, whilst Max was 22 seconds out in the lead. Jeddah was ok but was only 9 secs ahead of Leclerc. Australia was the first major warning. Max was pulling away from sainz with an effective handbrake before he dnfed whilst perez finished in 5th waaaaaay off the lead, and mind you, the redbull was still the clear fastest car at the time. To make it worse, he says max wouldnt have won even without his issue, which let's be honest is not true in the slightest. His only good race of the year was suzuka where he actually managed to qualify close to max, but after that in china, Max pulled 1.5 secs per lap in the lead in 3 different stints (sprint, 1st stint and final stint of the main race) whilst checo finished 3rd in both races behind a merc which was a tractor and a mclaren which still hadnt gotten its major upgrade. Miami, he nearly takes max out in turn 1 and since then hes just spiralling out of control. The only possible reason he got an extension is because apparently redbull make more from his sponsorships than they would from from winning the constructors vs 3rd or 4th, which is wild. Plus with every team catching up, a little extra wind tunnel time wouldnt hurt ig.
I dont think the McLaren are the fastest car. And I dont think they "should've" won. But they are pretty much equal with Red Bull (and better in cooler conditions), so I think they very much COULD have won, but I dont think they SHOULD have bcs at the end if the day it was Lando driving a car to its limit, and Max driving his car to its limit. They both did fantastic and both deserve full credit.
agree if we only look at the second driver of both teams they are pretty much the same. considering people say Oscar is a better driver than Checo RB would still be ahead in pace... mostly race pace wise
DOTD doesn't bug me in and of itself. What bugs me is the absolute lack of knowledge on what a good drive is on the part of the fans. Like so many morons voted for KMag at Saudi Arabia this year. Because racking up penalties and ruining races all so his teammate could score 1 point was worthy of DOTD?
I think people need to give credit to Max in the past few races. From the looks of it, Red Bull is not by far the best car anymore, but to see Max continuing to pick up those wins, when Sergio is what he does... Give credit where credit is due.
Hey I did the same Lego set a month ago, a blast to build. I noticed the nose piece has a pinkish tinge. Mine has that too - seems to be a production issue
G.P. radioed, “This might be our best opportunity now, Max. Think wisely.”
And Max promptly did overtake George Russell!
Great communication that wins races...
That was the call of the race
And the 1.9s vs 3.1s pit didn't hurt either
@@toolegittoquit_001 2,8 vs 3,6
@@BrabantXXL no, 1.9 vs 3.6
@@calebhernandez4233 no, the first pit stop of Max was 1.9. the second was 2.8.
If you compare the pitstops you also have to include the 5,6s pitstop of George Russell. Because of that, Lando came in front. So a lil bit of pitstop luck
I don’t understand this. Do y’all really think Max was just gonna sit behind Russell for a few laps so Norris can get behind him and in DRS. GP didn’t need to tell him that he was already doing it
The 6 turn, nearly 2 sector, battle between George and Lando was worth 3 stars all by itself.
it infuriated me! That was not George's fight and it ruined both of their chances.
What are you talking about? It definitely was George's battle. Mercedes was fighting norris and max the whole race. Why not take the last chance at a P2@@EredarLordJaraxxus
@@matthijsweststrate5552 they feel like lando lost the win because of it but in reality it was all because of his start. Idk if they expect George to just wave lando past in races, not like he's a racing driver or anything 🤷♂️
Makes no sense. Lando was going to pass him anyway. Why even try and lose time?
@@matthijsweststrate5552no they werent.
McLaren the fastest car, Max the fastest driver. That was his driver of the day.
He should have like 5 more of them, since the start of last season if you just look at what checo does, he doing miracles😂😂
If it was “driver of the day”max would have over 45 from 22,23. It’s similar to theirs “biggest flop” which isint the BIGGEST flop
The problem is that everyone wants to vote for the underdog. Lando might have been the fastest, but he's not the three-time world champion. So in people's minds, even if Max drove better, Lando is the "challenger" who by even threatening Max at all deserves to be driver of the day because he's the one making F1 interesting right now, taking the fight to Max.
I'm not saying it's right, but I don't think it's blind fanboyism. 2023 being so dominant really didn't help either so people just kinda think "Max in P1, business as usual" and don't really care how he got there or how impressive his drive actually was.
Driver of the day means less than nothing. It's just some add on to give the "social media" people something to shout about
Redbull is the fastest car. Max is the fastest driver
Remember when everyone gave Helmut Marko shit for saying that he hopes Perez doesn't drop off again now that the contract has been signed?? lol
Helmut "Cassandra" Marko.
He never hoped for that, no one at RB does. He said he expected him to, can't say that the man doesn't have an eye for that kind of stuff.
World championship race #1111 was won by car #1. The rising number one of formula one, Juan, one wonders, should Juan only win one formula one one year, would Juan want to have won that one in round one, Juan?
Why would one Juan wan't to win one Formula 1 when one Juan would win one hundred and one Formula one, one Juan wonders!
Careful Montoya was crazy enough to find a way to punch people through the Internet 😂
So #1111, huh? Interesting stat.
I mean its ok to at least TRY to pronounce a name correctly u kno
No comment.
Also, I don’t think Lewis is referring to being sabotaged, so the fans need to calm down. I think he is stating the obvious, as he is leaving the team, the team will not be developing the car around him as much any more and more around Russell, hence why Lewis thinks Russell will now have the upperhand. People need to apply logic, but sadly for many fans that does not exist.
I wonder team LH what they think about Russell 5.3s pit stop🤔😏 lol
@@user-wy5xe6ht2mor the hard tire strategy.
Apparently it's coming from somewhere outside the team and the police are involved. As Toto put it (paraphrasing obviously), there would be no benefit to the team to hobble one of the drivers, they're both needed to score high points.
Problem is that Lewis has done statements like "the new parts are not on my car" and later we found out he was given the option but he didn't want the new parts because if he damaged them he wouldn't have a spare.
And those kinds of narratives where he's is implicitly saying the team is favoring Russel, while he chose it himself, isn't going to help the TeamLH bandwagon see logic.
The beauty of this situation is that we do not need to speculate at all 😊. Lewis Hamilton does not need to talk 🤐. George Russell does not need to talk 🤫. Toto Wolff does not need to talk 👄🚫. . .
First qualifying session next year, we'll see what's up 🧐.
Max had old tires at the start and Lando had new. That start was the difference
I had no idea of these conspiracies with LH lol My favourite driver but I just genuinely believed he was just on a bad run of being in poor form. Nothing more nothing less.
From what I interpreted from Lewis's quali comments were that Merc weren't going to follow his advice on which way to develop the car. Which makes sense given that he's out of the team. So the car will become more and more suited to George, as he's the team's future. And it's 100% the right thing to do.
But a small portion of delusional vocal Lewis fans took the statement severely out of the context and spun a conspiracy theory with it.
It's similar to Alonso Lewis in, 2007, when Alonso fans were screaming sabotage. If you have a big enough fan base, there will be a few bad eggs that make the entire fanbase seem like biased idiots.
@@nanashiamaterasu8155lol
@@nanashiamaterasu8155the delusion on these LH fans is worryingly bad. Like what does a person like that think in normal situations where they need to use common sense?
I am genuinly scared of how these people behave, and the fact that most of them probably can vote😂😣
Before watching, I checked the thumbnail's question and then went back to check the 2021, 2020, 2019 and 2018 Spanish Grands Prix ... and I have to respond: "Nothing that didn't happen to Ricciardo, Gasly and Albon to an equal or lesser degree."
The thing is, Red Bull is a car capable of winning both championships. Back then, they were 3rd most of the time and could never challenge for championships.
Now they should win both but probably won’t because of Perez.
Perez is underperforming.
Max and Daniel were very close in 2018. Daniel had a ton of bad reliability luck in races and a handful of poor team decisions in quali that hurt him.
Now, Max is clearly the better driver, but the team did not lose out on points often because of poor performance by Daniel like they have with Sergio.
Love Perez and was excited to see him land that seat for 2021, but there is no reason they should have given him a 2 year extension.
There is barely a reason to keep him til the end of the season right now.
This race was specifically ruled that if you take that outside path, it will not be considered leaving the track and gaining an advantage even if you overtake someone.
Leclerc hit Sainz forcing him off the track, and Sainz then followed the correct rejoin procedure, which is why he kept the position.
Were you high while watching the race?
@@puneethg5469he can be high because you must have been blind
Plz watch the race, when Carlos bumped in Charles, Charles was steering towards right side to avoid bumping into Carlos, 55 bumped, damaged charles FW, he ran wide n rejoined the race, if that was with someone else that was a slam dunked penalty. Ferrari is being Ferrari in not being assertive
@@EverSoPossiblyPat haha you’re the one who was blind , Charles car was completely on the curb , where was he supposed to go… btw the the curb is white and red one … in case you are color blind !!
@@puneethg5469 replied a week later to still be wrong
19:50 I don't think Mercedes is sabotaging Lewis but rather shifting focus to Russell when it comes to future development on the car. Russell is the future. Remember what Albon said about the Redbull and Max, "Max likes a pointy car and you just have to follow and get used to that". Essentially they are bringing updates based on data and feedback of the number 1 driver.
Lol
this is what happened to ricciardo in 2018 lol, prioritising max because they saw his potential and lost ricciardo that way
@@huh4206 Can't say that it was such a big loss, though.
@@huh4206just to he become second driver to Lando even know against yuki lol
@@huh4206The difference is that RBR still had the chance to keep Ricciardo at the time. All Marko had to do was shut his damn mouth. Hamilton is already gone.
Without Max, RBR would be fade into oblivion.
Not oblivion but just in the top 5
Yup. Max is outdriving those cars. If Merc wanted to offer him 200M/Year he would be worth it
@@toolegittoquit_001why perez not even finish in top 5 now lol
Somebody else would win WDC's. No change. Actually last year Checo would've won it.
@@toolegittoquit_001still very clearly a top 4 car. The dropoff from 4 to 5 is huge
Norris didnt lose the race, Verstappen won it...
Because he was in a faster car. Usually how it happens. Norris was NEVER in with a chance to win it.
lando did lose it in the first lap
@@jsmr451 dont bother watching f1 if you are that blindfolded
@@levibalint3253 Only a DTS fan would say the Mclaren is faster.
Otherwise Lando would've also got passed Russell easily as well. But he couldn't.
@@jsmr451 only someone who has no clue about tyre temperature, overheating, and dirty air would say something like this. Literally everybody said that it was crucial for Max as well to overtake Russel immedietly...also if Max would have been faster Lando wouldnt have gone faster after Russel pitted than Verstappen did all the way the first stint. You have literally no clue about what you are talking about watch a bit of telemetry then you might change your opinion
Lollipopman would beg to differ
Max is craving all the precious DOTD awards that is missing in his trophy cabinet
"We don't do ifs buts or maybes, we do absolutes" - 8:55 if you know, you know! 😜
matt's favourite colour is definitely red.😂
Why is everyone saying Norris had tyre advantage on softs at the end. Max pitted for a brand new set and 3 laps later Norris pitted for a scrubbed set with 3 laps life in them. They literally had the same age of tyres at the end
Correct.
Lol
'But he pitted after Max' 🤷🏼♂️ 💀
Warmup, push and cooldown on low fuel is not the same as 3 race laps on higher fuel. Lando had better tyres
Because he literally did
For this race Perez is finishing that much behind Max is not surprising, he started P11 and finished P8. In Spain you lose so much time and tire life overtaking. Oscar started P10 and finished P7 in a car that was arguably quicker this weekend.
Oscar finished 30 seconds ahead of Pérez and he almost caught Sainz
@@andrewirureta276lol
Pérez also had a 3-stop race and all his soft tyres were used, nothing fresh left. bad (slow) pitstops also cost him time. He/we/they will have wanted more from him but I'm not sure if it was possible considering everything. at least he broke the spell of early elimination in Q and the spell of dnf via crash.. oh well, just wanting to stay hopeful and optimistic.
9th fastest car with nowhere near enough load, old rear wing, etc but daniel ricciardo managed to overtake 3 cars and in the end became the only driver with negative tyre degradation, that too on two different compounds. drivers can do it if they put effort into it like oscar piastri managed his tyres well when it's been one of his biggest criticisms
Oscar almost have the same points as Checo in a much slower car...
my favourite moment was when lando was asked to pit inorder to cover hamilton but he said he will "pass him" on track...😅the tone of that statement was absolutely menacing😅
From what I remember, 3 times McLaren strat team has asked Lando what the strategy should be and all three times it hasn’t panned out the best way. Last time in Canada, yesterday in Spain and the all famous Russian GP
So maybe they shouldn't ask him.
Lando isn't really the best in the brains department either
This time it was not the strategy. My opinion is it was the right strategy this time. Maybe couldve pitted 2laps earlier on the first stint. But that start worked out for them.
@@NicotineRosberg Well in all honesty, normally when they are doing strategy things, he's kinda busy.. And all drivers are strapped into a missile whipping around a 14 turn track with 19 other goofballs.. Sooooo.. how really smart are any of them lol..
Happens all the time but only people notice now that he's at the front
I think George should get points in driver ratings for his amazing overtake at the start and the multi turn battle he had with Lando. George is a master of entertainment.
Ah yes a 30secs unstoppable ad pre video and then a 145secs Lego ad in the video.
Gotta make them p's
Georges move on the outside of t1 on the start was nutty he did it so well. Just snuck by max and lando.
The thing is there's a team difference also in this equation. Red Bull are very assertive in their decisions, and they're made almost esclusively by the pit wall. McLaren are always asking Lando what he thinks, and he doesn't see the whole picture of the race. Red Bull strategy team are more professional.
I kinda feel sorry for Perez. He clearly cannot drive this car.
(Maybe other drivers, but Max obv, would have the same difficulties)
yes true I believe whatever RBissues are happening that also bother Max, clearly it affects Pérez even more.
Is this not exactly what we have seen since Gasly was there? I don't think Perez, Gasly, or Albon was bad: rather the car is not as good as Max makes it look.
@@SuperPassionflowerBased on free practice, the current RB loses a lot of front downforce during the corners causing a lot of understeer on exit. To resolve this, RB will be needing to put a lot of front wing on the car making it very oversteer-y. Checo obviously isn’t liking this so either his setup is similar to Max, or he’s dialling out the front wing which is making it just understeer throughout the corner and unable to rotate through the corners, losing Checo massive time.
@@cg_2k72 yes exactly the problem that has its effect and affect on Checo's performance and that make it quite a struggle to find the best balance to suit him better. makes good sense how you describe it. Max and Checo are so different in their driving style and preferences. All those comments made all over saying Checo is crap etc etc, that's total rubbish and undeserved. He's a good driver capable of doing amazing things, but where Max had a love-relation with RB19 and to a lesser degree with RB20 now it shows issues... Checo has had a struggling "relationship" with the cars.
The amount of Checo copium is crazy. He has barely deserved that seat since he joined. He got the seat cus of $$$ and has kept it because of it too. All this cry-babyness about the car being the 'problem' just does not stand anymore, and hasn't for over 2 years.
When Lando was catching Verstappen I was secretly hoping for a Latifi/Sargeant safety car to create a close battle.
Yes. Sargeant has basically become Latifi.
McLaren had a much faster car, according to himself. Max is just brilliant. You can't defeat Max in just a better car, you need a much better car than Max to defeat him
@@Amory98 That isn't really true... This race could have very easily proved that statement wrong had lando not been behind George for 5 laps and had better pit stops. He finished 2.5 seconds from max and was held back for a solid 4 seconds
@@ksey7144 and you don't think Max was managing the gap? Winning by 0,1 sec is enough...... Your logic is very simple, it doesn't work that way. Same as "if we had a few more laps"................. 🤣🤣
@@Eric-rf1is Mate the logic is fine, if you re read what I said you would notice I didn't say he would have 100% beaten max, it is a what if statement... I said it could have easily been proven wrong meaning it was possible... My point was Lando would have and did have pace to catch and rival that of Max given the gap wasn't extended, kinda clear.....Obvious Max was preserving tires but that isn't relevant as my 'what if' statement is reducing the gap by a few seconds meaning he would have had to push a fair amount.. Not hard.
The first time ever i saw a F1 video on TH-cam with a relevant, functional and fun sponsor ad. Really cool, well done M&T&Lego!
Thanks for answering my question! Should’ve worded it differently but it is what it is.
Loving this new attitude from Lando that wins give him loads of confidence. Is it just me but the only team mates that actually are working at the moment are the McLaren's?
Kinda yeah. McLaren’s operations are very good at keeping their drivers in line
It would be a legal nightmare for a team to sabotage a driver. Teams have shareholders/investors, and as companies they have a legal obligation to maximize profits for their shareholders/investors. If they sabotage a driver and lose prize money in the constructor's championship, they would 100% be sued to hell.
Best they could do is favor one over the other. Realistically stone information on development might be withheld from Hamilton but not likely with nefarious intent.
Toto pointed out that they want both drivers getting the most points possible for the sake of the team. It's all BS!
Lmao tell that to Nelson Piquet or Trulli they weren’t sabotaged by Briatore
Barrichello, Massa, Bottas and Perez were also sabotaged quite frequently. Team orders to hand over wins are clear cut sabotage.
And yet its happened in the past and surely in the future. F1 has a notorious history of unsavoury goings on. Is what it is.
It’s not really a legal nightmare for the team. At least from the fiduciary POV you reference. Dubious actions made by teams is something that has happened in the past. Never has it been handled as a fiduciary breach at least in this sense. It’s far fetched as an argument, and it can be reasonably be argued that their actions were focused on long term value with a short term cost, whether successful or not. Employees may lose their jobs. Drivers might have some employment related claim (imo dubious but I’ve read some opinions where EU law might consider a case)
The big liability for a team would be if the FIA determines that the team is in breach of the regulations and penalized the team, and bans/fines the team or personnel for a period of time. Both of which have happened. It hasn’t happened because the team play favourites.
Teams could also be in hot water with sponsors if there’s any sort of morality clauses designed to protect the brands that sponsor them.
The other factor, most or all of these teams are not publicly traded. They have a handful of shareholders. Which can include public corps, but they are still private corps, with only a few shareholders to represent. And a parent company is a shareholder. Not a fiduciary. At worst it’s an underperforming asset. But it still probably fell within their operating requirements. It still made money, just not as much. Or it provided non cash value. I.e marketing value.
50 years old....FIFTY YEARS OLD...I heard Tommy say. I had to rewind a number of times.
The old man LOOKS to have found the fountain of YOUTH
He's 35 chap
He isn't really 50..... right??
@@TheFakeRealist Not your Chap you FakeRealist. Thanks for that clarification though,
i think the 'Driver of the day award' is also more of an opportunity for us fans to get more moment of the driver we want to hear from.
i.e. Seb's driver of the day in Abu Dhabi 2021, I'm sure it was a moment for us to hear Seb being greatful on the radio one last time
2021 AD DOTD was kimi raikkonen his last race but Seb was in 2022 AD his last race but thoes races is not bad just to honored both of them in their last races simple as that but the way Lando won this race DOTD is joke of Award
@@user-wy5xe6ht2m He keeps winning because simps (women) keep voting for him.
I think that if Red Bull had done George's strategy, he would have gotten second yesterday. His tyres were fine (as per his radio) and they still pitted him for hards. And then the slow pitstops on top of that...
It seems they had agreed on the tyre strategy before the race and then didn't want to be flexible when he made that move
Complete agree!
Lol people just don't want to call it as it is because it'll make Lando look "bad" but McLaren has had the fastest car over the last few races, Lando simply just makes too many mistakes, the ONLY reason why the RB is still winning is because of Max. Any other "top tier" driver driving that car and that RB may consistently finish 3rd or 4th and occasionally win. It's not as bad as Perez makes it seem but it's not nearly as good as Max is making it seem. Without Max it would be extremely clear that McLaren is the fastest car right now.
Ye if rb where not that much better the year before people would call max the goat of f1 for having pretty much the second at best car and still leading by that much. Lando gets out qualified so many times by over 0.2 sec even tho piastri isn't the best qualifier he can easily handle lando most of the time showing how much lando is missing out.
"Makes too many mistakes"
Pal his only mistake since Imola has been his lockup in Canada last weekend 💀💀 What are you smoking...
@@bill4665 What are you smocking? when he literally focused too much on Max on the start, and opened up the way for Russell.
It's also funny how he never get penalized for clear incidents because F1 wants him to desperately win and challenge Max for the championship.
1. Jump start in Jeddah - Not called cause "sensor" wasn't working. Slam dunk penalty case to anyone with working eyeballs.
2. Cuts 1st corner in Canada, forcing Russell who was ahead of him off the racing line, making Russell lose 1.5s and closing the gap to him at the same time - No investigation.
3. Forces Max completely off the track like he isn't even there at the start of the race in Spain - No investigation.
@@AAO98 "completely off the track" Bro Max still had half his car on the track. I also love the fact that the drivers ASKED for this. They said they wanted to be allowed to race harder, and now they can and you're complaining? Max didnt even have a problem with it lmao 💀💀💀
The Canada incident literally got investigated but they didnt penalise Norris bcs he didnt gain any lasting advantage from it.
I really love it when people think the FIA is some sort of group of bias corrupt bastards. When in reality, they're just idiots.
Sainz literally overtook off track in Spain, yet he didnt get a penalty, Alonso got 3 penalty points for ruining his Chinese Sprint, yet Carlos got 1 for ruining Piastri's race in Miami.
Max LITERALLY raced so obviously dirty in the final three rounds of 2021, yet they did not penalise all of his incidents, only some.
They have always been like this, idk why people act like the swedish FIA are somehow either anti-Max or British bias, they have the same inconsistency for the entire grid. Magnussen is a ley example of that, he has done so much shit and they arent giving him penalty points anymore bcs they dont want to give him a race ban...
I heard them say in the broadcast that if a driver correctly took the runoff section and correctly joined the track, it was acceptable and not gaining a place while leaving the track. 31:26
Correct. It seemed odd, but I guess the race director had assessed that it wasn't an advantage to go out there. Maybe between the kerb and it being dirty that there was no time savings and a risky purposeful maneuver.
30:33 The replay showed minor bits from Sainz’ car flying of.
Mercedes and Lewis is like Perez fans claiming he's not getting the same car.
Most fans knew when they re signed Perez they gave away the constructors
You should know Race Director's Notes allow using *the escape at turn 1 that Sainz used* as long as you rejoin to the left of the bullard without penalty
Not fair: you got me excited to see the advertisement segment of your video
Perez trying to speedrun his way out of formula 1
What everyone should remember at the end of race talks with the drivers, let alone the radio calls in-race, is that despite years of experience (including as far back as karting), they're all still hyped up with adrenaline. It takes a fair time for it all to go away. They may not even admit it to themselves, but I've been watching F1 and countless other forms of 2 & 4-wheel racing for over 50 years, and I can spot a still-buzzing driver a mile away. This is why I don't take any bitching too seriously at that point.
Also it doesn't help driver relationships when the media (I'm talking about the big names that the drivers are likely to pay attention to) pick up tiny things and blow them all out of proportion, and then keep on at them at every opportunity. I'd rather see the clean, fun competition on the track that I'm sure the drivers would prefer.
Regarding the Sainz overtake from OB: According to the Sky Broadcast the Stewards direction this weekend was that as long as you took the run off and went around the bollard it didn't matter if you overtook someone, because it was considered a longer distance. So, that's why there was no penalty.
Checo is failing purely based on what Albon said about RB's this time of the year - the car is on the sharpest of knife edges as they've developed the car by mid year, and checo cant adapt. Every single driver at RB except Ricciardo had the same isssue every year
Tommy's sheer joy with the Lego cars made me smile so much today :D Smashin podcast both of ya
Vamos Carlos!!
Every time tommy says “like”, we take a shot
Biggest winner for me is stake, from back of the grid to battling with a red bull. Theyve made leaps forward this year
You missed the elephant in the room. Lando couldn't pass lowly Russell early in the race. Max passed Russel easily.
Because, for the 100th time, McLaren do not have the pace earlier in stints on heavy fuel. This has been the case every single weekend lol
The McLaren seems to struggle more in dirty air than the Red Bull, but Perez says he was cooking his tires in dirty air as well.
That said, Perez still made up 3 places whereas Piastri only made up 2 places relative to their respective starts despite Perez’s strategy being inferior to Piastri’s.
Credit to Piastri, though, he’d still have a lead on Perez even if Perez hadn’t run a three-stopper.
Russell had a slipstream from Max that helped along the straight even though Russell did not have DRS.
The Red Bull is still the best car.
no u.
Tbh, if lando pitted a lap after Russell, then he would've made an overcut because merc did a +5 seconds pit stop (also undercutting max).
Lando had NO choice but to back out of the sandwich the 63 had put him in. It was an excellent 19 point saving decision.😇
Need to organize a mass fan vote to make Seargant Driver of the day here soon before he’s booted
There was an attempt in Melbourne, but F1 removed Logan from the vote.
Off topic BUT I think fastest pitstop during the race should go for 1 constructors point. It would be an incentive for lower teams to get points and it makes pitstops even more fun/exciting.
Just an award at the end of the year feels like an injustice to the pit crew 🤷♀
They just altered the rules last seasons to slow down the pitstops for 'safety' reasons.
Adding an incentive to speed it up again for some 'non-race related' point seems a bit counterproductive.
@@Snaakie83wait what??? Isn’t it the pace of the car in pit lane that was reduced?? What does that have to do with pit stop time. Or am I missing something
@@pretheeshs9383 Mercedes forced in a new rule back in '21 or '22...
The mechanics can't start moving their tools before the car is fully stopped or something like that.
Before Red Bull was doing 1,96 sec pitstops and Mercedes claimed it was 'unsafe' ...and FIA suddenly dropped a new rule in order to slow the pitstops down.
The maximum drive thru speeds alter every race because some tracks have very crowded or small pitlanes and others have wide and roomy pitlanes. And those rules have been around for a while.
So the pitstops are about a second slower since...
but that could just have a backmarker team like sauber just keep doing pitstops because they're not getting anywhere in the race, and they'll get points for nothing
and pit crew is as much involved in a win or a loss as the drivers or the engineers or the mechanics. so their reward for good pitstop is their driver winning or getting points, or undercutting another for a better position etc.
I feel like McLaren are now going through the growing pains that Redbull went through a few years ago when they really started having a car that could compete.
"A nod to the flop" 🤣🤣
You guys really made my Monday!
When you go long and you’re catching at the end but don’t catch in time you can always say, “if the race was 5 laps longer we would have had it”
Hell SLH NEVER got DOD when he was winning!!
very well said about the Mercedes sabotage BS. Some areas of teamLH are delusional
Some ?? 😳
@@toolegittoquit_001 Im trying to be nice, ive seen some shit on Twitter
@@toolegittoquit_001Yeah, lots of people like Lewis and think the "Mercedes and George are Lewis' enemies" folks are nuts.
I think re: Perez it might be something along the lines of what Albon has said in a few interviews: that Max asks for upgrades in the car that suit is driving style and the team just goes along with that without regard for the teammate. Maybe the initial car suits both equally and then is made more in line with Max’s style to the detriment of Checo. If there isn’t a genuine car-related reason then actually wtf is going on
At this point picking Max winning the race is the equivalent of putting on softs last lap for fastest lap point 😂
Skips the first 2:30…
Not only a penalty but his Monegasque citizenship to be revoked
And a weekned getaway with RPM for Stroll
I'd pay to watch that 👀
@@toolegittoquit_001 me too! Swear down on me nans grave😂 Discussing 😂
People are on Perez for not being able to pass. But Lando and Russell situation proves it was difficult to pass.
We had a large number of overtakes, but that’s because we had unequal cars and unequal strategies. If cars were fairly equal, it WAS tough to pass.
Think you're missing the point that Max started on used softs and not stickered like Lando. That's by design, and McLaren need to learn why
Carlos is a very talented driver, but it sure feels like he's become quite the complainer whenever he gets into it with someone and it doesn't go his way. His complaint about Hamilton "bumping" him was just a milder version of his complaint about Piastri supposedly illegally overtaking him earlier in the season (I forget which race) and trying to negotiate by effectively saying "just give me the place back and I won't get you in trouble." It's a somewhat classless stain that Sainz can really do without. It certainly doesn't endear him to me.
He’s clawing for survival
It wasn't Piastri overtaking him, it was him overtaking Piastri at Miami where he took a penalty for the exact same crime.
Either just slag Sainz off or get your facts right, but at least choose one.
Now just go back to last year Spanish GP. Lap 56 like almost EXACTLY same situation happened between Yuki and Zhou even the same corner only difference is that Zhou took escape route so they wont collide and Sainz didnt and they collide and Yuki got penalty for it but Lewis didnt. If they want to be consistent then Lewis should get penalty same as Yuki did.
@@marekbuhla6729 learn the rules, Hamilton's tyre was beside the seat position of Carlos, that means now you have to leave space for the driver behind, Carlos didn't and hit Hamilton. Carlos had the space, there was loads of it,but he chose to squeeze Hamilton and the stewards followed the rules and didn't give out a penalty. Again, read the rules.
Most drivers do that tho. To try and make the stewards decision be towards their side
I dont agree that Mclaren is the fastest car right now. Max seemed to have a lot more in him, he was just maitaining the gap. I think if he couldve extended the gap if he needed to
Lando himself said it mclaren is the fastest car 🤔🤫😏lol
If both cars would be equal Max would dunk 20 seconds on Norris‘ head in the race. Max is easily 2-3 tenths faster than him in equal machinery.
@@user-wy5xe6ht2m yeah i know. I dont agree with him.
@@Reaz399 my opinion is the redbull is marginally faster than the rest of the field. And yes Max might be faster than Lando in the same machinery.
@@josemonsajiThe RB20 isn‘t even close to being faster than the McLaren since Miami, that’s factually false so what are you even waffling about.
Delusional clown, holy shit.
Norris has ducked the Max test at RB 3 times already because he knows that Max would humble him in equal cars.
Get real mate
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The back & forth Norris/Russell that lasted for half a lap around the race midpoint was perhaps the battle of the season so far. Either that or Ocon/Gasly in Miami lap 1.
There's no way George was going to drive with softs until the end,, he cook his tires
yeah cuz he had a 7 second pit stop and had to push to defend way earlier than he should have he lost 6 seconds in pits today after that first pit if he had a normal pit he would have been right behind max on warm tires
@@chady1229 Godzilla tried to read this and fucking died
For everyone yelling about Russell's tire management, here's what actually happened. Tires were fine, Hamilton was about 0.05 - 0.1s faster on equal mediums, Russell lost \~4 seconds on the slow stop, and the team just chose to go to plan B with Russell because of that.
40:30-41:30
Engineer: "Very happy with tire management at the moment"
Russell: "Personally I feel I'm pushing a little bit too hard in high speed"
Engineer: "We are happy, the numbers we're seeing, we are happy with what you're doing on the tires.... traction metrics look very good too"
43:55
Russell: "I'm still pushing hard in the high speed I feel... remind me target lap?"
Engineer:" Currently target minus 5, we are happy with the pushing level in the high speed."
49:13
Engineer: "Target minus 5"
50:30
Engineer: "So George, this will be Plan B"
Lando passed Hamilton seconds after the Plan B message, so the battle between Norris and Russell hadnt happened yet when the decision was already made.
No message to let Norris by while losing minimum time which you could argue he should have known but still the pit wall should be on top of these things.
Merc strategy and race management dept need an overhaul.
Lando got stuck behind George, him being George costed him that win I believe
The mcl just wasn’t as good as the redbull through the final corner . For them to make an overtake they need a tyre advantage or a bigger delta
@@lostmind24McLaren was the fastest car on the grid the problem for lando and what cost him was the race start
Nope. Lando cost Lando that win!
Lewis and Russell both could have worked together to further slow down Lando but they were driving for themselves
Yep, if he focused on keeping the Mercedes behind instead of worrying so much about Max at the start he would've had a good shot of winning.
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Guys, the stewards apparently made it clear that if you went on the LHS of the bollards in turn 1, there would be no penalty. I am surprised that you seem to be unaware of that.
As a Hamilton fan, I completely don't understand why on Earth would Mercedes would sabotage the best driver in their history. I don't believe at all in these conspiracies
Not even that, but how are you gonna advertise yourself as a team? What driver would ever sign to a team that wouldn’t push both drivers forward as best as they can. 😅
It makes no sense. I’m not a Lewis Hamilton fan, and even I’m saying it makes no sense, any way you look at it.
Yeah, why would they sabotage Russell?
@@TH-cam2021FMRussell perfectly sabotages himself under pressure (sadly)
@@TH-cam2021FM That comment really made me chuckle
I'm pretty sure if Merc hadn't bottled Russel he could have made 2nd, and pretty certain he would have gotten Hamilton.
Well when they pitted George he was about to be overtaken by Hamilton. And at that point is was possibly too early for softs, would have been a risk
Just no
If the Mercs were willing to play the team game, they could’ve both been on the podium.
Russell never had it, he is not that guy
George destroyed his medium battling Lando 🤷🏻♀️ he bottled his own P3
When Tommy talks Matts eyes glaze over and he goes to a happier place it’s hilarious 😂
Checo's problem: Adaptability. It's his main issue, no doubt. When the car had been upgraded a little bit, the characteristics of the car would change a little bit and he can't adapt it. Easy. In his previous experience, he stayed in the mid field team and they didn't often upgrade the car. Also, he dnf too much and made a huge loss under budget cap. He can't take more risk to push the car.
I feel like the reason Lando won driver of the day is because of his duel with George
then why did he win it last race as well
@@huh4206 probably because of how tense his pit exit was honestly… that’s probably it
Leclerc’s words on sainz are as unclassy as someone can be, specially after what sainz said about leclerc in monaco
No its not. You can’t do that as a teammate. It’s stupid especially when the team sets out a plan. He completely fell off the pace either way because he sucks at Tyre management. The reason he put on hards was because he sucks at Tyre management and couldn’t get softs to the end. Charles finished 7 seconds ahead of him for a reason. A podium was on for them today and that incident at lap 3 is what made Ferrari lose out on that. If you have a driver with better pace (Charles), don’t let them get stuck behind the guy that has terrible race pace for 20 laps. And you act like Carlos doesn’t cry after races. Look how he is with Oscar and how rude he is. Or during the race crying about Lewis. You guys say Charles is too “soft” but then when he says something a little off the PR script he’s “sooooo crazy.” Get a grip. It’s a competitive sport. And if you don’t agree that Charles is the better driver, Charles is currently on a 14-0 streak against sainz since China. 14 consecutive session that’s he out qualified him and finished ahead of him
Just want to point out something about DOTD. A few people use it to boost their fantasy teams. I always give Lando the 2x DRS because there is a good chance he will win it and that's a solid 20 points for me.
Didnt Mclaren have a 3.6 pit stop at the end. Which if they didnt would have possibly put Lando within DRS at the end
Is Max the absolute scariest driver to have along side you at the start of a race going into the first corner😮
Russel is, dude is a seral killer
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he isn't the torpedo anymore from his younger years, also the other driver matters. Lando,Leclerc,Sainz alsways allows for fair racing, Russell not so much.
Lol funny to say that when Lando forced Max onto the grass in Spain.....
@@someoneunseen5168 and that's where Lando lost the race lol
mclaren have had the fastest car for like 4 races already. i really think that driver of the day shouldnt be given to those on the podium. dotd is suppose to lift out a driver that did well but isnt in the spotlight. those on the podium got their reward, its the podium they got.
It's not "because he lost the car in Melbourne". It's "he hasn't had the same car since Jeddah". Logan has literally driven most of the season with a heavier, worse car than his teammate.
James even came out that the car was .3 slower than Albons
And on top of that the David Coulthad joke about Logan it was actually Alex Albon who hit the ballard it was debunked by Ky Millian an F1 photographer who had the notes Logan drove the Black Mercedes and Albon drove the White Mercedes
Is hamilton being sabotaged - no. Has Mercedes focus changed given that Lewis is leaving - possibly. And Prezez I suspect its a similar situation. Perez had some bad races a couple of years ago so red bull, knowing that Max is going to destroy everyone, are focusing more on Max because its virtually guaranteed max points. The unfortunate downside is it makes Perez look worse.
Mclaren Fastest car, but fastest driver : MAX MAX SUPER MAX!
I’m pretty sure Max could just take any car, dial it in to his super twitchy driving style and get consistent podiums regardless
Max is overrated Lewis is fastest than max, lando is fastest than max
@@vanbalzup6481 he did it when he won his first championship. That Red bull was not the fastest car on the track.
Mclaren is NOT the fastest car! The REDBULLCRAP is STILL the best overall car!! Lando couldn't catch Woody!!
@@coolc2452English mate. And how is Lewis faster? He never got a win in a car that wasn’t the fastest on the grid. You need therapy
Remember Lewis claiming the same thing in 2007 against Alonso. He got Max Mosely to have a FIA rep in the garage to prove it wasn't happening. Total joke
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Am I the only one who believes that Max still had the fastest car tho? He gapped both George and Lando twice, and was preserving his tires as he didn’t need to push as hard on a cold track.
Look at perez for the real quality of the car, which is worsen by his driving. Unless you're one of those who still think Max's car is different for some insane reason.
If Max had the fastest car how do you think Norris caught up to Max soo quickly from 8 seconds to 3
Dont know, only that even the drivers say McLaren is faster. Tend to believe that.
@@shaunonig1979 Ummmm because he only needs to win by .001... You also notice when Lando got to 5 seconds, Max kept it right there.. He didnt let Lando get closer.. After that Max just cruised.. He didnt need to push as hard and was able to be careful. Lando NEVER let up JUST in case Max slipped up.. If Lando would have been closer, Max would've picked up the pace..
@@DB-zp9un'And if my mum had balls ... '
Albon explained in an interview exactly why Max's teammates get worse over the year. They keep tuning the car more and more to his preferences that makes it harder and harder for a driver to keep up with if they aren't on the same level as him, which noone is.
edit: which you started talking about like a minute after I typed this :D We have our answer, why keep pondering it?
No. It isn't that they tune the car to Max's preferences. Newey explained in an interview that the engineers try to build the car that will go the fastest and introduce upgrades that will add more pace. Which generally makes the car more pointy as Alex Albon explained in that interview. And he also said that Max Verstappen has an unnatural ability to drag pointy cars around a race track that most other drivers will struggle with. The more stable the car, the slower it is and vice versa.
Drivers like Senna, Michael, Max and others have the ability to drive unstable cars that can go fast if they are able to handle them, while other not as great drivers can't and require the rear ends to be more stable, thereby compromising performance and speed.
Lol
@@navysingh5454 Albon also explained that he himself rather prefers pointy cars, but that Verstappen operates on a totally different dimension in that sense. He made the comparison to a computer mouse, when you configure it at its most sensitive. You move it minimally and it disappears from the screen, just uncontrollable. Somehow Verstappen is able to handle it, without the rear escaping from under him.
@@pdehaan2004 You are absolutely correct. I was just trying to explain in a basic manner that the notion the car is built towards Max Verstappen is factually inaccurate. They try to build the fastest cars that become more and more difficult to drive and Verstappen has the ability to adjust but his teammates can't as the season progresses and more upgrades come in.
Set up
To weigh in on the Perez situation, he did not start the year well, he was 4 seconds ahead of Sainz, whilst Max was 22 seconds out in the lead. Jeddah was ok but was only 9 secs ahead of Leclerc. Australia was the first major warning. Max was pulling away from sainz with an effective handbrake before he dnfed whilst perez finished in 5th waaaaaay off the lead, and mind you, the redbull was still the clear fastest car at the time. To make it worse, he says max wouldnt have won even without his issue, which let's be honest is not true in the slightest. His only good race of the year was suzuka where he actually managed to qualify close to max, but after that in china, Max pulled 1.5 secs per lap in the lead in 3 different stints (sprint, 1st stint and final stint of the main race) whilst checo finished 3rd in both races behind a merc which was a tractor and a mclaren which still hadnt gotten its major upgrade. Miami, he nearly takes max out in turn 1 and since then hes just spiralling out of control. The only possible reason he got an extension is because apparently redbull make more from his sponsorships than they would from from winning the constructors vs 3rd or 4th, which is wild. Plus with every team catching up, a little extra wind tunnel time wouldnt hurt ig.
Max is making the difference even the car is a bit slower than usual.
I dont think the McLaren are the fastest car. And I dont think they "should've" won.
But they are pretty much equal with Red Bull (and better in cooler conditions), so I think they very much COULD have won, but I dont think they SHOULD have bcs at the end if the day it was Lando driving a car to its limit, and Max driving his car to its limit. They both did fantastic and both deserve full credit.
agree
if we only look at the second driver of both teams they are pretty much the same. considering people say Oscar is a better driver than Checo RB would still be ahead in pace... mostly race pace wise
DOTD doesn't bug me in and of itself. What bugs me is the absolute lack of knowledge on what a good drive is on the part of the fans. Like so many morons voted for KMag at Saudi Arabia this year. Because racking up penalties and ruining races all so his teammate could score 1 point was worthy of DOTD?
Because fans vote for who makes the race interesting, so they don’t fall asleep
Do they have a version for Stroll, complete with trebuchet ?
I think people need to give credit to Max in the past few races. From the looks of it, Red Bull is not by far the best car anymore, but to see Max continuing to pick up those wins, when Sergio is what he does... Give credit where credit is due.
Russell is cooking this year, cooking his tyres.
his tyres were fine
As the most privileged driver ever, Lewis is unrivaled at playing the victim.
WIth the sainz Hamilton situation they did touch and there was some carbon send flying.
Hey I did the same Lego set a month ago, a blast to build. I noticed the nose piece has a pinkish tinge. Mine has that too - seems to be a production issue