How to fit a ballofix stop valve.Isolating valve
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- These cheap and cheerful valves are handy for fitting on any supply pipe , to say, a tap, toilet cistern and an outside tap. Once fitted, it is easy to turn off an outside tap for winter or fix a dripping tap without turning your main stopcock off, or going into a loft to turn off the hot or cold from a storage tank.
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Cheers - this is the third video I found to install and isolation valve and your was the only one which covered every step in an easy to follow manner. You saved me a fortune as I didn't need to pay for a plumber, thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
No problem Peter.
Excellent that you have explained how to do it in a real situation. Removing one inch is useful tip to remember. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much for taking the time and effort in making this video. I now have the confidence needed to fit a ballafix valve on my pipes I am about to plumb in. Thank you.
Engsecreto Onet No problem . Al.
Had so many `leaks` lately it is unreal, the guy who I got this house from hired a right bunch of cowboys to do the plumbing, your videos have been a great help and saved me more sleepless nights. Many thanks!
Andy O No problem Andy.
Good video, thanks. Even the cheapest tube cutter is far superior to a hacksaw; much easier and quicker to use (you don't have to hold the tube with one hand while sawing with the other) and makes a perfectly straight and clean cut. Prices start at £2.99 and unless you intend to take up plumbing as a trade, that's all you need.
Cheers Dereton33! Yet again came to my aid! For both items....! pipe cutter and isolation valve and how to fit and use them. Most helpful.
I have a leaking nut further up the pipe and i just turned the water supply off to the toilet from watching this. No more leak for now. thanks!
No problem.
Excellent tutorials, has really helped me, and this is the second one of yours I've seen. Best instructions on TH-cam imo. Thank you.
+The_ Pentaquark. No problem, Al.
Bless you I've spent all day to sort this bloody joint but you have solved my trouble have a good day pal
No problem.
Great video as usual. Gonna tackle this today before changing my dripping part 2 float valve.
Go for it!
Great video. Sets me up for my garden tap fit. Thank you
Perfect!
Thank you so much, you have saved my bacon this morning. Got up turn the tap on and the fitment came off in my hand. Needed to know how to isolate the water from the tsp so I can still have water. Life saver!!!
+Sharon Morley No problem
Hi Mr Dereton--thank you for such a great demo on fitting an isolating valve to the water supply--I,m a pensioner now so Ive found your expert advice and practical know how saving me a tradesman fee to which I,m hugely grateful to you indeed--I shall check all your past & latest videos from now on for these smallish but very important little jobs- so now may I wish you & your family a very happy and healthy and prosperous 2015 -Carl Bushmann
carl bushmann Thanks Carl a happy new you to you.
Thank you so much. Fixed a leak today. All the way from UK
No problem pleased you fixed it ok.
hi ya fella look ive been really worried about changing taps but after watching this you have made me feel confident so thanx again it gets me wife off me back lol
Kc Cook Ha ha , thanks Kc Cook. Al.
In America we have a liquid that you can brush on the pipes.It is safe for drinking water.I don't like the Teflon tape either.My dad used to use a pipe joint compound in a stick form.You can no longer find this.Great job ! Have a good day.
Thank you .
Thanks Dereton for your spot on advice, I will be having a go at this job myself tomorrow. Cheers! 😎👌
Have fun
Saved me again. Top man. Excellent tutorials. I forgot there was an arrow on!
Even I have been caught out by that one. Ha ha.
thank you for this video he has give me the confidence to do the job myself many thanks keep up the good work
+drejam11 . No problem.
Looking at your video's (not in order) it would seem you no.longer like the two types of valves in this video! Not surprised
No they have bad press.
Thanks for the info. Managed to fix the washing machine inlet values.
Very grateful Dereton33 this has help me get ready to fit a new kitchen which is coming this week any tip for installing a new kitchen sink into a counter and again Thank you
Mark Chalmers Hi mark, I usually place the sink bowl upside down on the worktop where you want it to be and draw a line around it, remove the bowl, then remark half an inch inside your previous mark, then cut out with a jigsaw. Al.
The valve under the sink no longer leaks! Thanks Big Al for demystifying the whole process.
No problem.
Thanks! Only video I found that said how much of the pipe you need to cut out.
No problem 👍
Great job, you make the job look easy 👍
Thanks Anthony.
Do these ball valves need to be 'excercised' at regular intervals to stop them seizing up like washing machine taps do?
Yes number 33 otherwise they always stick.
I like how you're doing all this literally one handed. Really puts my courage up for doing this myself for the first time for our bathroom shower piping. One thing though: do you really need to grease the pipe?
No you do not have to.
If you are changing and isolation valve, do you need to change the old olive and nut too? I screwed a new one on to the old one but there’s a small leak. Should I just tighten as hard as I can? Thanks. Your channel is really helpful.
Yes try tighting it if it still leaks then you will need to replace the olive.
Thanx from Sweden! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Welcome!
Thank you for this video. When you turned the water off using the new valve you turned the spindle anticlockwise 90 degrees. Would it be wrong to turn the spindle clockwise 90 degrees to turn off the water? I am thinking inside the valve there is a ball with a hole through it and it wouldn't matter which direction the spindle was turned. thank you.
It only turns one way, so it depends which way up you fir it as to what direction it turns.
Ok will do Darren.
regards
al.
Thanks very much, you've probably saved me a fortune !
great video dereton. Can i just clarify that the water flow was going to the left, so up the copper piping and into the that big bath looking thing?
Yes the roof tank.
Another useful vid. Well done that man.
No problem Peter.
Hi Dereton33
I've just bought a bag of 10 of these isolating values, gunna install them in the bathroom, kitchen and an outside tap in the next few months once I can afford to get the other things I need.
Just wondering if you could do a vid on the different applications of Jointing compound, plumbers mait etc, etc.
Learnt loads from your site,.
Thanks.
Great idea.....I've fitted one now for the loft water supply. Cheers.
Great Help, easy to understand, thanks
Very helpful clip as I'm about to fit this to the sink in my ground floor cloakroom.
The direction of water flow from what I'd seen on various places is from bottom to up to the taps, is there any reason the isolation valve shouldn't be fitted when the water flow is from top of the pipe to bottom before it gets to the taps?
Reason is that the section of the pipe that feeds to my toilet tank is along the skirting board, making it vulnerable to getting stepped on and breaking causing a leak, so need to fit an isolation valve before this section, e.g. where the flow is from the ceiling downward pipe. before it splits with a T junction to toilet tank and taps for the sink.
That would be fine.
I've just had one fitted from the cold feed tank in the loft to the cylinder in the airing cupboard and I can't tell if the arrow is pointing the right way. What would happen if it was the wrong way round dereton33? Thanks.
Nothing it would still work.
Wish I'd watched this before fitting mine to bath tap inlet pupes! Forgot the Boss white sealant and although they seemed watertight at first, 4 mths later there is a tiny leak in one that has SOAKED through outside wall.. unfortunately I'd tiled in the pipes so did not spot it til very late in the dat! Argh!! Stupid error.(Had to smash up 4 massive travertine tiles to get to it!!)
Can I ask if you'd recommend copper over rubber pipes for less leakiness/longevity? (I have rubber ones)
Also, getting the nut and olive off the rubber pipe was incredibly hard! Hacksawed it off in the end... have new olive. Just want to ensure THIS time they are 100% watertight, and that all brickwork is completely dry before retiling!
I always recommend copper pipe over plastic pipe. Good luck with it this time.
I have decided to fit 2 x 22mm (hot and cold) isolating valves to the downstairs bathroom. You say you cut 1" of 15mm pipe to allow for the body. What would you allow for the 22mm valve body? Thanks - PS Always find your videos really useful.
About an inch also.
What's the best way to get paint off the ends of the copper pipe so its clean. Fitting my first one to a sink feed and both pipes are painted. Emulsion I think... Thanks.
There is a proper cleaning tool for the job in my Amazon store.
Hi, great video, myself as a beginner, can i ask why there is no olive on either side of the valve please? thanks again for the video
Dont worry there is. It would never hold water without one.
Very handy video, thank you
thank you for this video. extremely helpful
Immortal Slim No problem. Al.
Thanks for the video! Any tips if there's not enough movement in the pipes to fit the valve in?
Undo any pipe clips further back on the pipework.
Hi Dereton, I want to fit an isolation valve to a toilet cistern, however there is only about 12 inches of straight pipe. I am guessing there is little to no play in the copper pipes if cut, definitely no up and down movement, maybe a little sideways movement. What valve would you recommend ? Should I use flexible tails? Are there deep bore valves available to slide onto the other end ?.....many thanks.
Easiest option would be a flexi with included valve on it.
I've got a leaky towel rail isolator valve - your tutorial is really useful but to replace the isolating valve on a towel radiator do I need to drain the central heating system?
Hi Susan, yes you will have to drain the system. Al.
Are these valves designed to work only in the fully open or fully closed position - IE can they be used to merely reduce the flow of water if there's too much pressure? the problem I have is that since getting a combi system installed I cannot get the pressure right - there's too much pressure at the bathroom sink, operation is noisy and the mixer tap is stiff to operate. If you turn the pressure down to an acceptable level using the main stop valve then the water is just a trickle the rest of the house.
They work well in slowing that speed of water down.
@@dereton33 thanks
Hi there, what’s the best way i can sort this out. The wife has brought a fancy tap for the bathroom sink. A single mixer tap. Under the sink there are click plastic pipes. While the new tap has flexi pipes for hot and cold. How can I get around this. Feedback Welcome Thanks👍
Just cut the plastic pipes and connect the fleixs to them, make sure to fit an insert into the plastic pipes.
Just the video I needed , just need to get some compound now! Thankyou x
No problem
Many thanks - most helpful.
No problem.
Oh do you have to use that joint compound only I've never used it when doing these before. Thanks
No not always necessary.
When to use compound or ptfe please sir.
just what I need! Thanks so much!
thanks arfan
regard
al
Lovely job!
Hi mate, if I fit flexible tails to new bath taps can the flexi tail have slack in it,? ie a bend, (kind of, S, shape) , I can't seem to measure exactly,( always short for some reason lol,) then there's trouble for an amateur,cheers, Chris. .
Yes that would be ok so long as there are no kinks.
Great, thanks for that,Chris.
Hi tried replacing a tap today and made a god awful mess, my valve like this will only turn half off (quarter of a turn)any ideas for freeing it out? would it possibly lime or something inside?
Once they seize you can do nothing with them except renew them.
Where are you turning the water off . From mains under skink? Do you have to push the ball don till waters all out? Or easier way
Under the sink. No you do not have to push the ball down.
+dereton33 so you dont have to drain?. just turning tap off will do? thanks
I have the copper pipe in the ensure coming out the floorboards vertically behind the sink so I presume the arrow should face up like this⬆️ as the water flows upwards to the sink tap....right ?
+Alps P. Yes that is right.
Thank you very much, very informative! !
No problem.
Kind regards,
al.
love your copper cutting tool first time seeing one can this work cuttingg pvc
+rajen ojar There is a cutter for cutting pvc.
Nice one mate.
GOOD VIDEO.
Great video, now I know which way to turn the screw so the water stops leaking :(.
I have a stopvalve on my sink & toilet & I'm looking replace the piping going to the tap with Flexible Tap Connector, is there Flexible Tap Connector that can fit in to a stopvalve?
You can buy a flexi connector with a valve built in.
Nice one fella
*fg@ffgf5885sd55s No problem. Al.
Hi Dereton22. Where did you get that stop valve with a handle? I can't find it anywhere. Good video by the way thank you very much.
Hi hueance , I got the valve from Screwfix.
Kind regards,
al.
Hi Dereton. I have bought a pair from screwfix now. Thank you.
No problem , good luck with it.
Regards,
al.
Full bore or the cheaper reduced bore?
Full bore is best.
Thanks for the video. I've found that the 15 mm pack of 10 from Screwfix are fine when initially fitted but if you try to isolate the water at a later date they leak! Do you have a view on that?
Yes they are really poor quality. Buy the more expensive ones from reputable plumbing shops.
@@dereton33 I am considering fitting a service valve to my mains pressure cold water supply to my cold water tank in my loft. Would it be better to fit a stopcock valve like the primary one I have under my kitchen sink? The ball valve units are neater but after reading about their tendency to leak, I am having doubts.
hi al great video
Top Vid! Many thanks!!!!
hi when fitting isolating valve the arrow has to go to the flow if installed wrong way round what will happen
thanks
Err well nothing.
dereton33 so it will function accurately which ever way u install it whats the purpose for the arrow than thanks
Better for flow as the ball is cut to allow better movement of water.
thought you said that they were shit, 6 months until leakages.
They are, but get a good Peggler one and all will be fine.
Ever had one of these not close off? One on my toilet doesn't work .The water still flows. And I think the installer knew because the valve is fitted such that the screw is facing the wall - need a stubby screw driver to turn it blind.
So I need to replace it. How hard is that and will the olives be okay.
Cheers.
+Salik Rafiq Forget it and fit a new one.
throw in some silicone grease around the ball in the valve and give it a few turns back and forth
and it'll work like new again. that's what i do when my ball valve accessories don't budge and silicone grease
can be used with potable water lines.
www.homedepot.com/p/DANCO-0-5-oz-Silicone-Faucet-Grease-88693/203193536
Yes that includes ball valve stems.
Sorry for typos again! You no what I mean lol
Hi I want to ask from anyone whenever I try to tighten the isolating valve it’s start leaking and tighten As much as possible but still leaks
Broken valve get a new one.
Top Man Top Vid
Thanks.
No boss white or PTFA needed on new compression fittings, ever.
Cumbriahandyman I have to disagree with that one. I have fitted many a brand new compression fitting without boss white and they have leaked, undone them applied some boss white and all good.
You should advise users to get a pipe slice, rather than use a hacksaw because the pipe slice leaves the pipe ends nice a clean and ready to put in the tap. Using a hacksaw then requires the user to clean the pipe up which can be a right pain if it is in an awkward position, and they might use the wrong tool for the job which might distort the end of the pipe, leading to a nightmare
I have to assume most DIY people have the minimum amount of tools at there disposal.
I hate boss white he does not do diversity. Also why are you out of breath? Try settling yourself before recording... it's not a good listen.
Negativity is a bad thing, try harder to be positive in your life.
thank you for this video he has give me the confidence to do the job myself many thanks keep up the good work
Thank you, very well explained and very helpful.
Thank you for the video, really helpful
No problem.