The Complete Jewish Study Bible - An Honest Review (of a Messianic Bible!)
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- In this Disciple Dojo review, we take a look at the Complete Jewish Study Bible by Hendrickson publishers.
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Hi I am a Messianic Jew. A Messianic Rabbi who grew up Orthodox recommended 2 books to me instead of the Complete Jewish Study Bible. The Jewish Study Bible by Berlin and Brettler, and the Jewish Annotated New Testament by Levine and Brettler. I also saw an Orthodox Rabbi recommend Art Scroll translation rather than JPS Torah and other books within the Tanakh for those that didn't grow up Jewish and want to learn. Hope this helps God Bless Shalom.
P.S. Great Review Thanks!
I the Jewish study Bible by brettler and Berlin and I love it.
Yeah, the Oxford resources are brilliant; Amy Jill Levine (and others) give an excellent non-messianic Jewish reading of the New Testament.
Wow 😲 thank you so much 😊 I have been trying to find out more about the Jews Bible that isn't the Christians Bible
Artscroll has false translations. Get the Stone Edition Chumash and look at the note to Genesis 1:1. Rashi and Ibn Ezra disagree with the traditional translation so the Chumash follows their personal opinions and renders the verse by what they think rather than what the actual manuscripts say. The rabbis change the Bible to suit them. The same is repeated in other Jewish Bibles.
I am a Christian of only 2+ years. With in that time, I have noticed how very little of the Bible translations express the Hebrew history. The cjb is the first translation I have found that brings more insight to the Hebrew roots. But with that said, I am still cross referencing it to other translations. Csv, NKJV, NIV, and the NLT. I'm finding it hard to be able to find other translations that give a better ground work for Hebrew roots within scripture. I am very aware of the limits of English versions in expressing how deep Hebrew words can be. Like "shalom" is commonly used as peace. (That's one small example). But the meaning is so so much deeper.
Note on the Translation:
David Stern translated the New Testament himself with a very good companion New Testament Study book. In the 1980s, there was the Jewish New Testament and Study book sold together as a 2 book set.
The Tanakh translation was taken from the JPS English Translation of 1912 which was made open source at the time of the creation of the Complete Jewish Bible. Remember that the NT was already a completed work when CJB was started.
Therefore the Tanakh was NOT translated Directly by Stern or his team although they may have reconsulted the Masoretic Text or other texts.
I'm Messianic, I use the reviewed Bible daily, but not exclusively for study. You're quite right that it is very light on general issues; however it does address themes and issues that aren't addressed in other study bibles. It is certainly not sufficient to be one's only study aid, but works as a compliment and occasionally corrective to other resources.
I agree with that assessment.
Which jewish bible do you recommend?
The positive ending for the weekly readings is funny! I just learned about it recently, and it just reminded me of how many writers in Hollywood are Jewish. Seems like the tradition continues!!!
Thank you for this comprehensive and what I consider an "honest" review ... Well Done! I was tempted to buy this bible because it brings together so much incredibly useful information. I agree with your comments about the fundamentals of the requirements of a good "Translation" not being met. I also agree that the actual "Study Notes" are too sparse ... so I will have to keep on hunting for a study bible which gives me everything this "CJSB" does plus a good "Study Bible" together!!!
Our entire family have this CJSB and we have been blessed by it. I wonder how this speaker of the discipledojo would fair if he wrote his version. But hey thanks for Your opinion. Shalom !
He would recruit a lot of help, that's for sure!
I got mine today. Going to use it as a resource but not a primary Bible.
I watched this video, and your videos on The Jewish Study Bible, The Jewish Annotated Apocrypha, and the Jewish Annotated New Testament. Passing up the Complete Jewish Study Bible, I purchased the other three by Jewish scholars instead.
For years, I have owned an English Translation of the Hanson by Artscroll, a Hebrew-English Chumash by Artscroll, and the One volume synagogue edition of the Gutnick Chumash used by the Lubaviitchers. The later one I bought because its aesthetically pleasing, primarily.
You bible reviews are among the best on TH-cam.
Wow, I just purchased this study bible yesterday online. I wish I would of waited to purchase it now that I found your review. Your review is thorough and honest. I was feeling intimidated about purchasing it, but I thought I would get it anyway. Well, I wish there were a lot more study notes since I know nothing about the Jewish religion or culture. I guess I'll need to find another source to answer those questions you mentioned. Great video! Thank you!!😊
There will be a lot in there that covers those things. Just not as much about the actual text itself. But...use it for a while and share your thoughts here after you've done so. I'd be interested to hear your take.
I have this bible. I am messanic and this is not a synagogue based bible in my opinion. It helps you to understand the messanic study. It has english on one side and messanic on the other side. Personally I love it. I have never went back. I think everyone is diffrent so it really goes off what you are looking for.
A year later. What do you think about this Bible?
I appreciate your honest review of this version, and I was slightly leaning towards getting one of these. After watching your review, I will not be getting one of these. I already have a copy of "The Scriptures" which is seemingly a close comparison of this one. I was hoping this "study Bible' version would have more insight and actual study helps. Thank you for sharing and giving such a good and honest review, you have a new subscriber. God bless.
Glad it was helpful. I wish it had more substance, honestly. I think getting a copy of Michael Brown's "Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus" volumes would be a better investment for anyone looking for a messianic perspective.
I use this Bible, along with others, but it's my new daily reader. I grew up on KJV. Anyway, the Scriptures is different in that it adopts the 'Sacred Name', which says you go to Hell if you don't say God or Jesus' names correctly, and should be looked at more like a denominational version, not a legitimate translation
thank you for expressing some of what I found disappointing with the CJB Study Bible. There were/are questions I had about specific passages and not one is addressed at all. I enjoy reading the text - and some of the notes are very helpful, but I was looking for deeper study. __
as for our congregation -- we use multiple translations. I do read from the CJV for personal time, but also from the TLV and NASB and NIV -(our "Pulpit" Bible is a NASB, mostly because of it's readability) I have found the traditional reading cycle Sterns has put in the CJV to be helpful - especially where we have the suggestions of passages from the apostolic writings that can complement the Torah portions as we follow that cycle in our services.
I felt the same way as you about the sparseness of the notes and sent it back. It was gorgeous, and if it had had tons of notes like most study Bibles, I would have kept it, but I got Stern's New Testament commentary instead where at least you get substantial discussion of the text.
This is my bible i use daily. I have other versions and commentaries for additional studies. It is great for me as a beginner. I write notes and add note pages to my bible... i imagine after a year or two I will be ready for another bible to go through again. The introduction is fabulous and the notes throughout that go into Jewish customs help so much. Will definitely "upgrade" to another Messianic version when I'm ready for another daily bible.
I use logos on my IPad. I appreciate your honesty in your critique of the Complete Jewish Study Bible, you saved me some money. Pn Logos the book is priced at $37, for the electronic edition.
Two Messianic Translations:
The first is translated by Kevin Geoffrey, it's called the Messianic Jewish Literal Translation Bible. It is a Critical Text translation. The Textus Receptus Greek. Manuscript that was used in the King James is in the footnotes. It's a very Literal Translation. Also, it has the places and names in Transliteration Hebrew. Also, the books are arranged Chronologically to when they were written to give better context.
The Second New Testament Messianic Translation is from Dr. Al Garza. He is using over 4,000 Hebrew Manuscripts (not Greek) from Matthew to Revelation to translate into Messianic Style English with Transliterations and Modern Hebrew in each book of the New Testament/Brit Hadashah. Also, He does put Scholar footnotes with the variants/differences of the manuscripts in the footnotes. You can see more about the books translated so far on his website. His books are sold on Amazon. In January 2023, he is publishing 1 and 2 Corinthians.
Blessings and Shalom!
Thanks! I was not aware of these!
I was so engrossed in your video now I can't remember how I came across this video. I purchased TCJSB a few months back and was so excited to get started on reading and understanding it. I most definately want to get to know the cultures of the Jews during Jesus time bc, well, He was a Jew and I feel it will develop a more intimate relationship with HIm. Is there a Jewish Bible that you would recommend or a study to understand the Jewish culture through the scriptures? Thank you so much for this video and the many more videos you have made bc I will for sure be watching those too. Continue doing God's work for us who are craving for knowledge.
I don't really know of a good Jewish study Bible for both testaments that I would recommend someone use as their primary study Bible if they are a follower of Jesus, honestly. :-/
I ordered this one because I am interested in learning more about the Jewish culture in the Bible
Great video, filled with helpful information, thank you. I'm looking for a great Jewish Study Bible. Unfortunately I don't speak Hebrew; considering that, do you have a recommendation? Just subscribed.
I agree that there are not enough notes, particularly in the Tenak. The Brit' Hadash has a few more but seems to rely heavily on Sterns's commentary to the CJB New Testament. I appreciate that they removed Yiddish from the translation and love the Tenak quotations in bold. As a Study Bible it felt lacking, almost as though it was rushed into existence to cater to a market. Although I do like Stern's translation as it challenges replacement theology.
Thank you for this review. I think this is one of the few “study bibles” I can go without.
Honest none bias review - it is not a Bible translation I would ever adopt or take. I think we have a glut of translations coming through - plus revisions and updates - which is a concern as how far from the original texts do we travel ? Saying that I do use currently the NKJV / NASB and ESV - and do love good study Bibles but this is not one for me. Thank you for putting this review together.
Excellent balanced review. When I bought this I was also disappointed by the extremely limited notes. It is a good Feature Bible that highlights and showcases the interesting and valuable CJB translation, but it shouldn't claim to be a Study Bible.
Thanks again for this bible review! I was wondering your thoughts on the references left in this around Matthew 2:1 and the Magi aka Wise Men, basically were they Jews or Gentiles?
Magi means "astrologers", which Jews were forbidden from practicing, so it is unlikely (though maybe not totally impossible) that they were diaspora Jews.
I agree with you . I was surprised with the lack of study notes sith being a study bible. Almost an oxymoron. The study materials in the back are interesting. My overall opinion is the same as yours . Theme bible not study bible, I wish your review was available before I purchased the book. I am not a big fan of individual translations. Thank you.
Love my Bible
With me being messanic ,I really like this bible. But if you are not messanic then this one isn't probably for you. I appreciate you giving a honest review that's cool. For me I love this bible. I have a tyndale bible and it's more relatable than the king james . King James has changed so much that never was in the bible that I'm just done with it.
If not this Bible, which Bible would you recommend as a Jewish outreach Bible?
I've read some of the replies to this one. Can you help me with suggesting a Messianic Jewish Bible with study notes that you like better? Thank you 😊
Honestly, I don't think there really is one that I'd recommend as a primary study Bible. At least not at this point. Hopefully that will change someday though.
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Thank you, how we get a complete Jewish Bible and what do you refer.
I'm not sure what you are asking. The link is in the video description.
Curious about your view of the Book of Daniel. Do you believe it was written by Daniel or later?
I haven't settled on that question yet. I've heard good arguments for and against Daniel as author.
@@DiscipleDojo Just keep in mind that Jesus believe Daniel wrote it, and referred to it when asked about the signs of His return. So was Jesus right...wrong?
Can you do a review of the facsimile bibles 1611 KJV 1560 Geneva?
To my knowledge they aren't really study Bibles that anyone uses today. But if someone wants to send me one I can take a look.
@@DiscipleDojo yeah they aren’t really study bibles; I’m just in to the history of those particular bibles. Very call bibles and awesome that they’ve managed to persevere them enough to do facsimiles
I agree with the futurist view. IE In Matthew 24 the disciples ask Jesus when He's returning and what are the signs of His return. He goes through a series of signs of the end times and His return. Clearly He was writing to that future generation.
He calls it "this generation"...which always refers to the generation being addressed. Also, his disciples were not asking about his return, as they didn't believe he was going to go anywhere (which is why they were so crushed and despondent when he was killed).
@@DiscipleDojo Well if you're correct then Jesus was wrong...because He didn't return while that generation was alive. If you believe that Jesus is God, as I do, then you understand that he was looking into the future, referring to the generation at the time of the signs he was giving.
My everyday carry bible is the CJB study bible
I use this and the KJV as well as the ESV and wanting to get the CJB Study Bible
I don't like CJB because they omit passages and they also remove key elements and flavor that's pertinent to certain sections of story. For instance, the omitions in Mark Ch 9. I like OJB(orthodox jewish bible ) more because we get hebrew words and English meanings, built into the actual text.
Why would there be a ton of notes on Genesis? Unless it annotates how it was taken from the Enuma Elish there’s not much to note.
The similarities to the Enuma Elish are vastly outweighed by the differences. Most people never actually read EE or Genesis very carefully, however. So what they hear in their freshman comparitive religion class gets repeated uncritically and assumed to be true.
I'm a very big fan of KJV and I've been using the CJB and I'm disappointed as the word trust is used instead of faith. If we think well there is the Spirit of Faith & this is beyond trust.
Like doing a review on a computer book, and not understanding how the code works. That's why the graphic user interface came about.
I would think trying to “hebrewify” Paul’s letters is…antithetical to his mission? He’s the missionary to the gentiles…he would’ve spoken to them in Greek, and the Hebrew translations of Greek words wouldn’t really been what they were thinking of.
I love the complete Jewish Bible I don't know about the new complete Jewish Study Bible
Yes, I like the Complete Jewish Study Bible -- I don't know about the Complete Jewish Bible.
I'd like to see a comparison between The Complete Jewish Study Bible by Rabbi Barry Rubin vs Complete Jewish Bible by David H. Stern (The covers look similar but they are slightly different and one is a Bible and one is a Study Bible).
@DiscipleDojo - Hope you'll do a comparison!🌴🌺
@@reneallen8302 The Complete Jewish Study Bible uses the Complete Jewish Bible translation of the Bible. In other words, the difference between them is only in the added study notes and articles in the Study Bible. They are not different translations.
@@TernaryM01 - Thanks for responding and letting me know that. Have a blessed Sunday! 🌺🌄
20:34 The bottom line!
Thank you for this review, I own this Bible since 2019 but only had a quick look through some sections.
I think also it does not live up to the name study Bible as it's marketed. There isnt enough information, one might as you said just get a CJB translation.
Another thing you also mentioned and am concerned is the Judeaizer mentality we been seeing and have me concerned if I ever want to give my mind to this book.
Most importantly is the time factor, going through a study Bible systematically is a time consuming undertaking and in this case am sure you also agree that this time is better spent elsewhere.
Yes, I definitely agree. I love the idea of this Bible, but wish they had gotten more robust scholarship and a more comprehensive study approach behind it.
The best translation, the closest one to the original, is THE BOOK OF YAHWEH. THE HOLY SCRIPTURES
You say that the NT is entirely written by jews, but isn't truth that both Luke and Acts were written by a gentile?
There's debate about whether or not Luke was a gentile or a diaspora Jew, I believe. It's possible he was a gentile, though.
@@DiscipleDojo Thank you for the info.
We use The book of YAHWEH.The holy scripture.
As Christians, we read from a Hellenistic Text, losing the Jewishness with Roman overtones. Lucifer is given his proper name, while Elohim is called GOD and our Savior is wrongly called Jesus. His name is Yeshua as there is no "J" in Hebrew....Yosef was the husband of Mary, not Joseph. We have been grafted into The House of Israel as Believers, and, I believe this Study Bible could help us understand a bit more of the culture of Judaism. I have David Stern's original Bible, as well as, The Hallelujah Scriptures Bible which is the KJV text with the name of God and Yeshua in Hebrew Text. That Version uses Yahuah and Yahusha. My Bible Study Software has Dr Stern's text as well so I can compare it with the others and anyone who says that the KJV Translators got it perfect might want to read their notes in the 1611. I have found at least a dozen translation errors in New Testament alone where they used the wrong word. Where it says Joseph was the husband of Mary in the Book of Matthew.....that is an error. They were "bethrothed", not yet married, as Yeshua was not yet born, they were "engaged to be married". Dr. Stern says "not-yet-married", so, he got it correct. Even the NKJV got it wrong. I believe the last update to the KJV was in 1900 and that is the text we use. I used to have the 1769 and I still have a 1611, also gave my Pastor a replica of the original 1611, in the King's English Script, rather large, complete with the Apocrypha which he placed at the front of the pulpit.
Just as an aside...Lucifer is not actually the Devil's name. :) Here's more on that: th-cam.com/video/NFVtIk9A_kw/w-d-xo.html
@@DiscipleDojo I will check that out and I suspected that was the case. Thanks.
Is it hasatan? Now anyway?
Just a side note so that you don’t slip up again, Mark and Luke were Gentiles. Just keep that in mind so that you don’t say all the NT authors were Jews in the future, two were not Jewish whatsoever. A third co-author (Timothy) was also considered a Gentile, because being half Jew was still a dog in the eyes of the Israelites at that time. So minimum 3 Gentile NT Authors/Co-Authors I’m aware of off the top of my head. Just a friendly Christian reminder, GOD Bless Brother! 😁🙏🏼
There is debate about whether or not Mark and Luke were Gentiles, Jewish converts, or ethnic Jews, I believe. I'm not aware of any hard evidence either way that settles the matter.
@@DiscipleDojo Well as for Luke we actually have concrete evidence that he was a physician from the Greek speaking world. There is a severe lack of support for his being Jewish on several accounts. But one of the most important cases for his being Gentile is that if you note his desire to compile a biography gospel that flows directly into the Acts you’ll also realize the writing style is like someone who had studied the Greek epics extensively (in other words something a Jew would not do).
As for John Mark, we run into a similar issue finding any direct evidence for his being Jewish. Instead we find his Gospel being essentially the Gospel written for the Gentiles and that might show a bias on his part for how he wanted the story told (his perspective). On a side note I also find it fascinating that John Mark traveled with Peter personally since his gospel tells the most varied account of how Peter received the news that he would deny Christ three times and then how many times the rooster crowed. A varying secondary account is always a fascinating point of study in the Gospels, but that one I find especially intriguing since John Mark was with Peter for so many years.
Anyways, amongst Hebrew Roots and some Messianic Jews you are indeed correct that they find this unthinkable, however many of the people in these groups also believe a lot of heavily unsupported things (most of which being provable as incorrect with historical/Biblical evidence). I would point out to these people that we have a ton of evidence now that in the Galilee region three languages were in common use during Christ’s life. These three languages being Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew. Greek actually being the common writing language at the time as well. It actually seems that for daily life they only wrote in Greek, which actually makes sense since they were under Roman rule in the Koine Greek speaking region of the world. That all said there is a higher chance the common spoken tongue of the average man in the region was Aramaic because less people would have been literate to write Greek. There’s also an expectation that every man would know Hebrew in Israel to hear the Torah and other scrolls read aloud on Sabbath. So the question of what language Christ spoke to the crowds is a valid question. Most likely Aramaic and the reason being that Jesus was always speaking parables more understandable to a commoner than an elite. The commoners would have had more common usage with Aramaic in daily life(from what we now know) and from Jesus character it would seem he leaned into that. However it’s still possible that he spoke Hebrew to them and this is something that GOD and those in Heaven know, we do not know for certain. There’s an extreme case to be made that Christ would have spoken Greek only when necessary (like when talking to Romans), but even in those cases they may have spoken Aramaic. However based on the region Christ grew up its safe to say he knew Greek. Did he speak his parables in Greek though? Almost certainly not, because he came in his own lifetime for the lost sheep of the house of Israel and only outside Israel was the Greek Septuagint really being used (he made biblical parallels while preaching constantly, he would have spoken the word of GOD in the language they knew it while referencing)
Basically, we have an excellent case that Christ spoke Hebrew/Aramaic for his parables but when it comes to the gospels, books, and epistles of the NT being written in Hebrew we only have a genuine Scholarly debate on one. That one is the Gospel of Matthew. There’s a great case to be made that it was originally written in Hebrew and that this is the only Gospel we have textual syntax to support a translation occurred from Hebrew. To me if this is true then most likely both were made within a couple years of each other since they would also want a translation for the wider Greek speaking Jewish world outside of Israel. Also notable is that Matthew was written for the Jews and would make sense as the first written gospel since the original mission was to bring the news to the house of Israel and only after that give to the Gentiles (who GOD knew would ultimately preserve his word as foretold in the OT).
So my final thought is this; I wasn’t there but I do trust the evidence we have because the same evidence always says the Bible is true 😁
GOD Bless brother 🙏🏼
@@narrowistheway77 Yes, I've heard good arguments for both views. So I don't take a firm position on it. I think Paul is proof that a Jew could be extremely fluent and familiar with Greco-Roman literary norms, and we know Luke and Mark were familiar with the Hebrew Scriptures (at least the LXX), so I don't find it hard to believe that they could have been Greek speaking Jews. But I also don't think it matters if they were Gentiles either.
And yes, I agree, there is a lot of silly stuff that some in the Hebrew roots movement present as fact. I think it appeals to a semi-gnostic tendency we all have to be "in the know"...and much later Jewish medieval tradition gets read back into the NT sometimes.
I have this Bible, in hardback cover and it cost me $90 it's just a flasyer Christians Bible, the Jews say HaShem as to the name of God, also that Jesus is a real man, from Nazarene
Just learn Hebrew and read the real thing. If you learn 500 Hebrew words you can understand 80% of Tenach.
You can't even spell Tanakh correctly, yet you are railing against Christians? C'mon with that nonsense.
Luke the author of the Gospel and the book of Acts was a gentile. Since his works make up nearly 1/3 of the New Testament (by length) it is not entirely correct to say “the New Testament was entirely written by Jewish followers of Jesus.”
I believe there has been debate about whether or not Luke was a gentile or a Hellenistic diaspora Jew. To me it doesn't really make a difference to me because either way his writing is steeped in the Hebrew Scriptures.
@@DiscipleDojo By every indication, Luke was a Gentile. Colossians 4:10-11 and 4:14 show that he wasn’t Jewish, because he was not included in the group who are of the circumcision. It should not surprise me I guess that there is debate over this since we seem today to debate every single thing. I’ve not know anyone to make a case that Luke was Jewish but then it’s not a question I’ve focused on.
There are scholars who make solid cases for Luke being a Jew.
@@jimlee2414 Maybe name one? Thank you.
@@jimlee2414 Could you name a couple please?
Ty for the review. I will not be purchasing.
Sorry for the typo, or rather, I didn't catch the whatever it is that likes to CHANGE WORDS ON YOU. ANTIOCHUS, ANTIOCHUS EPIPHANES. NOT ANTIOCH.