When Does Prepping Transition to Hoarding?
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- Consider your prepping habits. Have you transitioned from prepping to hoarding? Are there a few changes that it would be wise to make? Join us as we look at some habits that may indicate you have a problem.
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A friend, who is a home builder once told me, “1600 square feet of living space is all a family needs, but they need 4000 square feet of storage”. As a Prepper, my biggest issue is where to put everything. Prior to COVID, we were just small “p” preppers, and it was a fun hobby for a retired couple. Since Covid, we are deadly serious. Since our adult kids have neither the money nor the inclination, we are prepping with them and their kids in mind. Our garage is full of shelving (no cars) that are full of plastic containers, full of everything from foods to medicines. We have two storage lockers where our tools and holiday decorations are stored. It’s actually become a depressing burden. I am sure we are not alone. We are determined to keep going. It sure feels like hoarding.
A great topic! Thank you, Jonathan and Kylene!
You are not alone:)
as long as you keep it neat, properly stored,and out off the way of normal life,you are not a hoarder. When bins start filling up your actual living space, it becomes a huge problem.
Garage is probably too hot for the food.
Your garage? Is it heated & cooled? I can't store food in my garage as it's too hot in the summer & too cold in the winter.
What you're doing is nothing like true hoarding. Keep on truckin', friend.
As a licensed therapist who ALSO prepares for emergencies, I would also add that 2 key differences would be that hoarding is generally “purposeless.” It fills an emotional void, but not a practical purpose. This is why the collections tend to be incredibly random and aimless. A second red flag would be how it’s impacting the health of the home/relationships. If it’s causing tremendous strain on the people living there, you may want to reevaluate. “Prepping” should bring peace. Just my 2 cents to add! :)
Thanks Katie! That's totally make sense. It adds a new way to understand and help each other through life.
A good question to ask yourself is, "Am I learning skills and knowledge in addition to storing food, water, and gear?"
My New Years resolution for 2023 was to learn how to make many kinds of breads from scratch using while using multiple ways of baking. I learned how to make everything from tortillas to sour dough to bannock bread using a stick over a campfire. There is far more to being prepared than having buckets of rice and beans in your closets.
In the past, my Mom taught me to be "Hurricane Prepared". Before Hurricane season started in June, we would take the prior 5 months to slowly buy water/food/life necessities. If we did not use the items by November we would start using them to eat on for the next 2 months. (November/December). And if any was still left over, we would have a New Year Hurricane Party to use all the food up. It really helped the food budget during the Holidays to save money. Plus we did not have to go out and buy extras food/water during the winter months. Then we started all over again buying each month food that we actually would eat in case of a storm. We would get little at a time, until we were fully stock and prepared for the start of Hurricane season June 1st. I been doing this for the last 50 years.
This has to be the smartest thing I've ever read! I just love this idea!
@@plsjjrg3285 Thank you! My Mom was a very smart lady. She was raised during the depression. I remember the stories about the Victory Gardens and other prepper issues. But we were/are poor so we do this to survive. Mom always could "think out of the box". If we did not have it, and we needed it, she would come up with a "make do" that was better than what we actually needed. She was amazing. I learn to be self sufficient at an early age.
This is exactly what I do. I am in Florida. My aunt once made fun of my many gallons of water stored by saying in a certain tone “what are you going to do with all that water?” I simply replied, “Drink it in November.” I kinda wanted to say a few more things but didn’t LOL!
@@ladyjusticesusan Some people do not understand simple. You are a smart person not to say anything. Don't explain, just smile..
@@plsjjrg3285 Thank you! All the credit goes to my very smart Mom.
Ok, I hope my wife never sees this episode!
I would plead guilty to many of these!
As always you two are great!
We plead guilty too!
C'mon Kylene...
We all KNOW whats in the "She-shed"...
Chocolate, chocolate and...
More chocolate.
Absolutely! Actually it is too hot out there. Had to get everything out of the house so that I can store the chocolate where it is cool!
And our chocolate is better rotated than anything else! LOL
@@kitbaker1629 My chocolate is on a two week rotation.😂
I had to unlearn some hoarding tendencies a while back. I learned the difference between want, need and wait. I prided myself on only having what I needed. But having lived through 2020, I see the value of being ahead on items you actually use. That’s my line in the sand, “will I use this?” And “Do I have a place for this?”. Right now I’m working on increasing my gardening skills.
I could write a thesis on this. Bottom line for me is that there are a LOT of You Tube channels out there that will have on their post "Buy These Things Before They Are Gone" or "Get This Stuff Before The Election". That to me is simply fear mongering.
ALLLLLLL OF THIS
Sometimes I have to take a break from those prepping channels because they cause me anxiety and come from a place of panic and fear.
I’ve been in SHTF situations. I know how to use my stuff. For a while I collected fabric. Now I collect fun 20 year cans- lol. It took me two years, but I feel confident in what we have. I don’t rotate- don’t plan on it for a few years. I just want to get through 2025😎 I may be a hoarder, but I am ok with it for now.
Hoarding is stuff you think you’ll use. And prepping is stuff you hope you never have to use.
Change that mindset, prep things you can use everyday.
@@MosaicHomestead Not necessarily Luis. For example, I store Geiger counters, dosimeters, and gas masks, but don't need to use them everyday.
@marygallagher3428 what are the odds you'll use it the day after a full nuclear exchange?...I play the odds numbers, and invest according to those odds, my style of prepping works for me every day...economic collapse will creep on us first, it's happening slowly as the world 🌎 dumps the US 💵 dollar, I'm a lot more practical when it comes to prepping.
I am both blessed and cursed by being in an over 55 mobile home community that has very strict HOA rules on what you can have outside of your house. Nothing can be outside except patio furniture. Even bicycles have to be kept in your shed or house. So the blessing is that I can’t be a hoarder because I have such limited space. The curse is I’m always worried “do I have enough”. I think I’ve come to a happy medium over the years of using my house and shed space efficiently and having patio furniture that hides some things (using a trunk as a coffee table outdoors gives a little extra space to store bottled water). I don’t like the dirt and unsanitary conditions that come with what I think of as hoarding so I think even if I had more space I hope I wouldn’t become a hoarder. I like things to be clean, even my storage areas must be clean. Thank you for all that you do. You are appreciated.
Prepping vs hoarding - what I heard: If it fills a hole and serves a positive purpose toward making your life easier; if you can afford it and will commit to using it routinely (practice); if you have a system to store it in the proper way, in an organized manner, out of sight, then it’s not hoarding. This is an important message in staying balanced. Tks for sharing.
I don't think I'm a hoarder yet, but I do mentally go through the prepper supply categories and see if I have a need. I try to fill a gap each month, but don't go over my budget.
Portable radios are important communication tool, but yes the crank method of charging radios isn't efficient and wastes energy (mine). Solar feature is nice but it does take longer to charge. Default to batteries, maybe rechargeable.
My stuff is organized in containers, though I could use another free closet. Ha!
I think the two of you are reasonable, thoughtful, and not fear mongerers. I believe I'm making a good choice to follow you. That's my sanity check.
That is such an incredible compliment Elizabeth! Thanks for joining us!
Excellent video! Thank you! Yours is the first time I have seen this topic dealt with.
One thing that I have learned from you folks is that the point of prepping is to allow one to continue living their life rather than having to shut it down to scrounge for food and other essentials.
My red line on hoarding is when the prep expires without being rotated and used.
In these times, and with what's coming, there's no such thing as hoarding. It's ALL prepping.
Truth!!
Right now, hoarding is not even enough.
"Hoarding" became a way for non-preppers to shame prepared minded people. Really saw it become a thing during the lockdown.
Not if it isn’t organized!
Especially when money is loosing value so quickly.
I have a small stock pile of the 30 year stuff. But, I use it. When a bucket gets empty, I order more and put it on the back end. I just got a 50 pound box of potatoes, and spent 3 days preparing them, some mashers in the freezer, some freeze dried. I have it to USE! I didn't spend 2 days peeling those taters to hoard them in the freezer! 😆It's a ready "option". NOW, my hand is up for one thing...I got seeds, and more seeds, and then there is a chest of seeds...I HAVE GOT TO STOP! they are all OP and heirlooms too. They can be saved...😆10 veggies you have GOT to plant NOW....😂
Me too!!
My family status is one person. No family members available. I have been watching your videos and I am now planning out meals (for one) and going back through my "stuff" to make sure they all work. I have a wind-up radio that I need to check out. Being in an apartment setting, no cook stoves are allowed (of course) but also no storage of small propane tanks (Coleman) are allowed. Thanks for the videos I am learning out to adjust to what my situation is at the moment.
Awesome! I'm so proud of you :)
“Allowed” doesn’t mean anything after rules break down. They just can’t be aware of those items beforehand.
Check out their videos on canned heat and the Vesta stove
Kathleen, I saw on the internet where you flip a metal muffin tin over. You put 4 small tea candles light in between the groves. They show using a small frying pan to heat up food. It is not big, but it better than nothing.
I think one of your question should be: Will you go through your food supplies before they go bad? Especially short term items. I have seen coupon queens stockpile laundry soap, cleaners, toothpaste, etc. Eventually that stuff goes bad, I have had a small bottle of fabric softener separate and poured out a clump. Toothpaste that also separated and tasted more like soap than minty fresh. Those are really short term stuff that probably should not be stored more than a year, maybe two at the most. So when I see those 40 big bottles of laundry soap that coupon queens have stockpiled, I often wonder how long has it been sitting in their hot garage. Because I am not very good at keeping up with the constant rotation of stored food, I try to store what we would use in a year. Living So California we have wildfires and earthquakes, so those are what we prepare for, fortunately I live in an area where it would be a very chance of being affected by wildfires themselves but the power going out can and has affected us - no heat or water (on a well) We planned to have a way to keep fridges and freezer running hopefully until power is restored. I have been told by others that we are hoarding but when disasters strikes they will come to us for help.
OMG, what an appropriate subject for me. Yup, my house is a " trail house." I have been working on my organization of preps and of life in general, but it is a slow, tedious process at this level. It doesn't help that I am currently convalescing from cancer surgery and as I recover I will get back to managing my preps, and life, better. Thanks for the wake up call! I love what you do...
Oh my goodness, I sure hope that you are recovering well. It is funny how it suddenly sneaks up on us. Sometimes it is just too overwhelming to even think about how and where to start. You work on getting better and then you can tackle this. Praying for you!
@TheProvidentPrepper TY, for your love and concern. All signs point to a full but time consuming recovery!
This is a great topic, Jonathan and Kylene! I bought a cheap hand-crank radio in 1999, “just in case” for 2000. Well, that radio that I paid $20 for, lasted 15 years. I cranked it up whenever I worked in the yard or garden. I wish I could find that brand again! Food rotation is hard, so we go through our food storage and pantries every six months. We make note of items we used to like but don’t use as much ; look at what we DO enjoy, and make a list of those things for future reference. Pantry organizing is so important. Have a great day, and thanks again for another great topic!
Hi Michelle!
Hoarding is when you don’t throw out that old rotten food, keep all kinds of broken stuff that can’t be used to make or fix something else, when you buy a dozen identical cake decorator kits because they were on sale but you don’t ice cakes, etc… And #13 is a great point!
🖨️ You should make a downloadable / printable review of the points in this video. Actually, you should do this for a number of your videos. Make it a PDF with your logo at the top and the title of the video or the topic.
Love this idea. The info is so valuable.
That's a great idea! Think I can add it to my very long list? Hmmm. It would be incredibly valuable.
Thanks for the video. I normally organize my preps in the winter when it cold out or summer when it really hot out. Well, last January the 5th I broke my ankle and then in April started taking care of my MIL so when September rolled around nothing had been organized for a year. I'm 6 months behind on everything but the garden and harvest... that waits for no one. Bags of food and supplies every where in my storage places. I started organizing for at least 2 hours a day. Things are coming along but this just shows how easy it is to get behind when life throws you a SHTF moment.
I hope your ankle is good as new. Bless you for caring for your mother-in-law! You are making good progress. Two hours a day is fantastic. Life does tend to throw all kinds of challenges in our path. You are awesome!
@@TheProvidentPrepper thank you. My ankle is good.
@@CharlieB_P2ST Glad to hear!
Lack of organization and not using things after I've purchased them, especially if they're "fallback" items like the sun oven, make me feel less ready than I could be.
Well, good to know I am not a "Hoarder". Thanks for Sharing.
LOL! So now the question is that a bad thing :)
I'm all for being prepared instead of scared. However, " If you can't use a room in your home for its intended purpose," i have to agree there is a problem.
Over time, people often forget what they have and end up buying multiples of the same equipment.
I recommend designating a notebook / binder specifically to your supplies. List into categories such as food, medicine, personal care, back up power, lighting, heat, security, etc.
Things that expire, write them in the book/ binder to. I have also found by documenting this supplies. It also keeps me on track for charging times a few times out of the year for things like power banks, radios, alarms etc.
I absolutely agree with testing your equipment out before you need it. It's good to have a backup for a backup, but that's where I get scared. Notebook/ binder keeps me disciplined.
Hopefully, this can help someone else too.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment!
I'm getting rid of stuff I don't use. I organize food , cleansers and hygiene items by expiration date. I am determined to use stuff before that date.
That's awesome Julia!
Good old Dave Ramsey helped me get out of debt and with my prepping purchases. I research an item and then wait 2 weeks to a month before making a decision. More often than not I do not purchase the item. Thanks for all you do.
Food rotation is key! Stock up on sale & moving food from storage into daily/weekly pantry-cupboards. It’s like doing earthquake retrofitting your home when you live in the “Pacific Ring of Fire” because specialized earthquake insurance is expensive but doesn’t cover much. We finished a year long major dry rot removal/repair of our old house 2 months before the 1989 Big Quake, we saw lots of home’s & buildings damaged from lack of building maintenance in the area surrounding us. PS: living in a condo with limited storage/space now enforces our “no hoarding” rule. And we try to test our stock/gear every 6 months (April & October in remembrance of our areas 2 big quakes in 1906 & 1989).
Thank you so much for this video. I appreciate your sharing that a person doesn’t need every option you show on your YT channel - that you are showing us some options that you personally use and recommend but without using what I call clickbait titles that stir up FOMO especially for newer preppers. God bless you!
Needed this today! Such good reminders and wisdom
All good advice.
The thing that o have seen the most, as an example.
Storing say rice and you never eat rice. 🤔
I store much more rice then I could ever use, but I have been inspired to stock more for those that do not prepare.
I have some rice stored but I cannot eat it (I’m diabetic). I store a bit of it because it’s cheap and would make a good trade item if ever needed, like I’ll give you some rice if you give me two eggs or something like that. When I feel it’s been stored long enough (a year or two), I donate the packages to the food bank and get some replacements. It’s kind of my low cost way to make sure I have trade items. I also do not drink any alcohol but always have a few bottles, also for trade purposes. When people come to visit sometimes they bring a bottle of wine, forgetting I don’t drink, so I just store it away.
What I'd like to know about is stocking up on bacon bits. How long can you store bacon bits? As far as open unopened jars. Real bacon bits vs the imitation bacon bits? Which is better?
Which do you eat? Storage temperature matters a lot. If you keep them in the freezer ... forever. Otherwise keep them cool and rotate so that you consume them within a year of the best-if-used by date. As long as you keep them rotated you will have great tasting bacon bits for a long time if something happens.
I think those radios have improved. I used one during our last tornado warning. 😊also getting the rest of my emergency gear this week. Im really happy about that. Thank you so much for your information. 😊🌷
I grew up very poor. We had very little food. When i got older and had kids i started building up my food supply. My husband calls me a horder of food but does not complain as it keeps my ptsd away. My daughter moved back home with 4 kids in tow. Its a good thing i have plenty of food cause those kids can EAT 🤣🤣🤣
It's interesting how food insecurity can haunt us all our lives. When you know what it is to be hungry, you make certain that you have the food you need to protect yourself from that when you have control.
What a excellent video! We fill that way. My house is straight, but don’t look under stuff😂😂😂 i do know where most stuff is.
Great job Nana!
a very important question! and of course, if you have a prior issue with hoarding, you may need someone else to help "check" you
Ok, I feel called out 😂 I bought a Sun Oven nearly 10 years ago and I’ve never opened the box. Tomorrow I will bake something in it!
I prefer resiliency over piles. I do live on a homestead. I am growing food for me and my animals (which end up in my freezer). My animals give me fertilizer for my garden.
17 caulk guns, what 17 caulk guns...I can only find one (at a time) 😂😂😂
Year after year it’s getting hoarder to prepp.
LOL!
Thanks!
The transition is from prepping for emergency, to never using and unwilling to let go...
Not letting go. Unless I move. How much would it cost to move it?
@@cathybestlercurtis Yes! I had to give alot away...
Completely off topic, but Kylene, your glasses are beautiful! They look great on you.
I have found putting the item in my cart, putting it in the save for later, then come back to it later helps. Then i might have different stuff to compare it with.
Answer to your Question...I dont hoard at all, i have a small channel few people watch, but i don't have your common prepper stuff review video's, I recommend a tool shop radio that uses your drill battery, i recommend a tool shop flashlight that uses your drill battery, i recommend battery operated tools and a prepper shed solar set up to charge those tools...Tell Mr Provident to check out my prepper shed, its not the biggest, but its the stongest with the most realistic preparedness multi functions that are all 100% OFF GRID, including washing clothes 100% off grid.
Very good information!
Thanks for watching!
No such thing as hoarding as anything extra will be to keep the neighbors happy and off your back.
💯 agree
True
Interesting, thank you for sharing this video. I do not want to become a hoarder. Happy trails!
Appreciation of your time and effort! How long past the best buy are things in cans good for- like tomatoes and veggies (meat makes me nervous :)
They and others have answered this; virtually forever if undamaged.
I loved this video because it asked many legitimate questions...a good occasional self assessment is a very necessary positive...that being said, I don't think a person can be a serious prepper and not be a "little bit" Horder🤔😁
Great show guys, thx so much 👍✌️
This was so helpful and enjoyable to watch. The title made me a little nervous but I felt relieved by the end -[o[.
I'm going to stop buying barter items for a while. I don't drink , but have several cases of mixed alcohol.
Prepping is a logical and thoughtful process, whereas hoarding is an emotional and compulsive process.
Interesting analysis.
Wow, you guys have the best videos. I have been guilty of several of those things. I am now trying to get more organized. I know exactly where most of my stuff is located but there are some things that I would have to really look for to find. I have made that my mission for this summer but I didn't get nearly enough completed. It just seems like one day runs into another. Most days by the time I get home from work I am done for. Thanks for the reminder and push to get busy and get things finished.
You and me both! It's a huge goal of mine and yet the progress is much slower than I'd like it to be. But there IS PROGRESS! Super proud of you! Keep it up!
I think prepping helps me not be a hoarder. I can’t keep useless or sentimental items that I may want to keep because I need that storage space to stock necessities for 8 ppl 😂
Being disabled and not bugging out unless need be, I have no gear but I did buy a mossy axe, machete and knife. I am prepped for 3 plus months of food and two plus for water and multiple ways to filter and purify.
I have a creek, slow moving and its a place to get water with a coyote well.
I have little freeze dried, about 25 lbs of different dried beans. Mine is more of higher calorie can foods you can eat out of the can or package. Can meats with the brought date written where I can see them, soups, can beans, baked beans. Not the best room temp but you can survive.
Too tired to survive a true shtf scenario, but I'm ready for months.
nothing in your preps should ever "go bad", rust, decay, disintigrate... (accidents will happen, but it shouldnt be normal) because that proves you werent tracking or rotating your supplies.
you should be able to USE all your gear
it should be organized so you can find, rotate and use stuff.
and finally
it should be suited for YOU- not some random other situation
If the prepping items , are organized, shelved, and rotated...it ain't hoarding.
I see the difference as usage. Preppers should know how much of whatever they need to accomplish their goals, which also means having a goal of situations and time frame. In the beginning, that's going to involve a lot of Sharpies and writing dates. A written inventory couldn't hurt. Once par levels are established for a given prepping time frame, those goals can be met without it turning into hoarding.
All good points were guilty of them as well. It's all a balancing act along with a big learning curve sadly this all takes time which seems to be getting shorter especially for those just beginning so, thank you for all your videos and insights.
Stay Safe & Good Luck were going to need it
We are so grateful you have joined us!
What to buy based on weight, price, volume, need, time, other aspects. Needs versus wants versus fears. Fears can never be solved. I fear death, nuclear war, world problems I can not control. Best to do basics, simplicity. Get the basics, which is a seven day camping trip. Go camping for seven days, five or six times. That is what is needed. I hoard money, IOUs, gold, silver, real estate, more than needed. It will never be enough. Just a Western world game. Protect yourself. How can I protect myself from ME, my own fears?
You put 2 million calories per person away and you can’t deny it’s hoarding. But I paid for it and I don’t see a problem with it…
💯 agree, prepping has become a hobby for me.
LOL!
As for having multiple ways to cook, for me that's called redundancy and it's a good thing. You don't want just one way to start a fire for heating your food or your house. The more multiples you have the better your chances of surviving . Hoarding to me is more the inability to get rid of things that are absolutely of no use to you or someone else in a survival situation. This would be things like magazines, you've already read them probably several times over. Articles that are of interest to you or about survival how tos, cut them out and make a file that you can refer back to when you need to . Then throw out the rest of the magazine. Newspapers are another example of this,you've already read it,so cut out the coupons for shopping then recycle it In one of two ways. Bundle them up for the garbage or get one of those newspaper rollers and roll them up into a log and use them to start the fire in your woodstove or fireplace. Keep them stored in a box or like I do it, in an old sap bucket near the stove. Our families have been syrup [maple] producers since the 1830s. The old buckets add to the decor of the house and as a reminder of where we have come from.
My prepper pantry are of items we actually use.
We use our food and rotate
We cleaned our RV and found duplicates of our items… we had to purge
If we don’t use it, we purge it.
The garage is a mess.
Good job! My garage is a mess too ... but we are working on it a little at a time :)
You may not read this comment but I need help in determining how to keep stored food cool in the very hot south georgia summers. I was storing food in an old non working freezer. This keeps mylar bags safe from rodents, BUT the inside temp in the summer was 92 degrees. Burying food in a metal trash can to make a "root cellar" in the dirt because of the low water table and the fire ants that can get in the can. Yes, you can grow some things in the fall but I want to be able to store my summer food in a cooler place. Adding AC is not really possible.
That is a great question. Not living in that environment I can't give advice from practical experience but I'm confident that some of our viewers have great ideas. Was the old non-working freezer buried in the shade? Where is the coolest location in or around your home? Jonathan put a shopvac in the vent of ours at night (which is buried) during a heat spell to draw in the night air and expel the warm air, cooling the root cellar freezer mass overnight and it seemed to make a significant difference in the temperature. I don't think you have to use a shopvac but perhaps a small fan? Goal would be to move cool air in and hot air out. Just a thought.
Central Texas here - plenty of 100°+, humid. Without central a/c, found HV (high velocity) fans to move cooler / drier air from couple small window units throughout house. These move way more CFM (cubic feet per minute) than the puny "consumer" box fans. I've bought four commercial & industrial, refurbished, XPower. One fan severalfeet froman a/c, the next a room away to grab that air & send it through next two rooms or hallway.... Vs. debt $8,300+ to replace the central. All the info is online like everything else.
Storing shelf stable food, some with oxygen absorbers, in the North two rooms, shaded, where the a/c units are.
Also, any food for shelf, that won't eat this week, I first freeze 72+ hours, kills any insects/eggs. Kept sealed, shelf stable food thaws out fine.
In our South, we can grow food nearly year round. If room for any raised gardening, climbing crops, raised beds, totes, pots, all good -- I use anything handy to reach. Way better up where you have more control. Easy to improve soil when it's up waist high, lots fewer pests, less back ouch & more FUN 🌱!
Also starting microgreens, 15 kinds way more nutrients in sprouted or micrograms. (Spellcheck changed to "micrograms", later "microorganisms"; apparently programmer didn't know gardening). Year round powerful nutrients without what goes into the processed "food" indu$try.
Suppose you already have cans, jars in closets, under beds, shallow shelves in house.
Yes, it's a challenge. Take bread, what about storing whole grains in those buckets with oxygen excluded, practice getting sourdough starter going, it's from "wild" yeast that's already in the air. I'm just now getting things together for that. It's $7-8 a loaf 😮 so there's motivation 🍞 The people in Blue Zones eat whole grain slow rise sourdough like people have for thousands of years, so apparently these "old" ways work.
I eat fresh food, but store canned foods, I don't rotate, I believe my canned food will be safe and if I am hungry I will eat it.
Being Simple with Common Sense🤔😉
You two are fun to watch. But I have to say….. I think I’m guilty of more than one of these things. 😳😬.
Medicine that is “wayyyy out of date” means 15+ years. Most medicin will not become toxic to humans and will still maintain 50-70% efficacy even at 10 years. The same goes for some medical items and IFAK products. The military has put out studies on this. IIRC the military’s doctrine on medical/medicine is to hold until 2 years past expiration but that doesn’t mean they’re getting rid of any of it. It just becomes backstock. Replaced with current product but save the old stock in a climate controlled space sealed from moisture and oxygen. With medicine my plan is to cycle through the oldest stock first but there isn’t anything we use that I would have an issue with taking 10-15 years past the “expiration” date that regulation or legal butt covering designates. No different than yall have talked about with canned and other properly sealed foods past expiration.
While it's true about the sad dangerous things about hoarding I will agree, but I'm always thinking about if there's a true sh** hitting the fan and the scenarios that can happen all the preparations preppers do is all going out the door either by unprepared individuals or the government. I got to thinking about a "controlled" hoarder scenario where an individual or family could have a place where anyone who comes anywhere near your property and sees it's condition of it will move on, but in the inner maze of your house there's a safe place of supplies, food, and preparedness that no one can see!
Here’s the psychological answer: Prepper vs Hoarder is just an activity that had crossed over from healthy to pathological. Determining this is quite easy…does your prepping cause you distress or interfere with your ability to lead the life you want to live. This criteria is the foundation of ALL mental health diagnoses. What this means is this…if a patient hears voices but it is not distressing and is not interfering with them living how they want to live, no psychological diagnoses should be made. A different patient hearing the same voices who is distressed by the voices and got fired from their job for talking to people that aren’t there would receive a diagnosis such as schizophrenia.
SO, no matter what or how much you buy, whether you know how to use what you have purchased, if you have a trail through 5-gallon buckets in your bedroom, or have dug a moat around your house, you have only crossed over into the pathology of hoarding if it is distressing to you or is interfering with your life in a way you are not happy about. Similarly, if all you have prepped is 6 months of food but have become obsessed with your preps, stay up all night counting how many grains of rice you have, are being evicted from your apartment for practicing with your bow-drill by the pool, and have cut off all your friends and family for fear they will discover your stash and you miss them greatly and feel very lonely and depressed without them, then you have crossed over into a mental disorder and would be diagnosed with something (hoarding, OCD, etc).
So the answer isn’t in the prepping itself but how it is affecting you.
I would love to see your she & he sheds, at least the outside, and well, I would really like to see the inside of the she shed if it would not be too revealing of your personal life. We have looked at getting a s/he (2 story) shed in which I get the bottom floor and he gets the top floor. We’ve had to put this on hold due to money because of course we don’t want to have to pay for it overtime. we also want to outfit it so that it runs mostly on solar. I have wanted a she shed for YEARS, just a place where I can have things that nobody is going to bother me about LOL!
How long can i store canned tuna& salmon after expectation date❤❤
Fish actually tends to go "funny" before any of the other canned meats. Stored correctly (cool) I would be sure to use it within two years from that date.
It happens when in an emergency they find out that you have what they foolishly lack
I don't have to worry, I'm a Senior struggling on a pension and can't afford to prep
Not true. You merely need to adapt how you are prepping.
One extra can of food or one pound bag of beans or rice at a time :)
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I promise you, as a fellow senior with a low income pension, you can prep. One little thing at a time. It takes longer than someone with real income, but I promise you, one extra can at a time, you can do it.
😱 I don't think I've ever seen one of your videos where Johnathon uses "spicy" language. (No worries, I've certainly heard worse, it was just a wee bit surprising lol.)
I don't think that I'm necessarily transition toward hoarding, but I definitely do need to work on organization. When we made a long distance move, we got rid of some of our furniture that wasn't worth moving, unfortunately most of it was the furniture I used for organizing my medical and toiletry preps. We're still trying to find some storage that is both useful and attractive enough to keep in our guest room (we almost never have guests, but we've got a bed in there for when we do).
Oh my! I have to rewatch it. Jonathan just doesn't ever swear. The worst thing he says is "stupid phone"! He actually says that a lot ... LOL!
@@TheProvidentPrepper It was about 05:30 he says something about buying “c***”. (A word related to sanitation or a product that is a piece of junk). He actually uses it twice lol.
On the spectrum of swear words it’s pretty tame it was just unexpected lol.
He said the word "crap" which is just another everyday word for junk. I doubt anybody else thought anything of it. 🤔🇺🇲
My guess would be when you are "loosing" food and cannot rotate through at a rate that keeps everything viable.
"Out of fear"... all prepping is done out of fear. If you have no fear of a circumstance you are not going to prepare for it occurring.
Hoarding
The food that lasts 30 years may be way more expensive now than when you first purchased. So to use it and restock is not possibly be in your budget. Merchants have figured out what we need and have done a severe amount of price gouging.
Live by the rule of 3, it shouldn't go past 3 of each item if you don't have a lot of room...Example, if you have 20 knives when in a emergency, you could have used a kitchen knife, or buying useless survival gear like your hand crank radio Example, I only prep micro assets, these are preps that save me money because they are used every day.
It may look like I'm hoarding until you know I have 3 children who don't/won't see the need to prepare.
Can I ask a question? I’ve asked several people and everyone gives me a different answer. How long can I store all purpose flour in a mylar bag with an oxygen absorber?
@@imacarpson8268 so the shelf life is forever?
There are a lot of variables that impact the shelf life. Storage temperature is huge. You can double the shelf life for ever 18 degree drop in temperature from room temperature. The same goes true for storing in warm temperatures. Check out this video th-cam.com/video/_dVeR0T9mx0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8XLJUyhQ-mC-Mn4J There is a taste test at the end. What quality do you want your food to be? Personally I target 5 years but 10 in a cool, dry, dark storage room would be okay.
@@imacarpson8268I figured it was a joke. 😂. I am very low budget and have been trying to stockpile for about 4 years now. I try to rotate but I also want to store long term in Mylar so I can try to have things put back if I need it. A grinder really isn’t in my budget. So I have to do what I can. But thank you
@@TheProvidentPrepperthank you so much! That explains a lot. I watched it and learned a lot. Thank you again
freeze flour forever
Bible definition of hoarding:
Pr. 11:26 & Lk 12:16-21
Number 14 😂
Has anyone found places to donate #10 cans of food storage?
I bet if you put them on Facebook Marketplace you would have a lot of grateful people willing to take them off your hands.
hi gtsy
We have to move & now we have to move the Preps. Any advice?
We've done that. It's a lot of hard work. See if you can enlist some friends or neighbors to help with all the heavy lifting. I hope you are going someplace amazing!
Perhaps strive to give away a portion and save/ move only the food and essentials that you will really use.
Personally, the #1 Priority I would make sure of is that your preps are not visible to anyone. Therefore, have everything covered in boxes OR put a box packaging paper around your preps.
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I don't see the difference
Definably hoarding, no need to watch this video. 😂
LOL!