Persona Q & Q2 | The Teams Discuss How They All Operate on Their Missions
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- Each scene in the Q series where the teams discuss how they operate on their missions.
Persona Q
0:00 P3 Side
2:40 P4 Side
Persona Q2
5:25 FEMC Asks the Phantom Thieves
8:40 Investigation Team on the Phantom Thieves
14:53 S.E.E.S on the Phantom Thieves
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imagine if Mitsuru asked the p5 team if they used guns
Haru: *Pulls out a M32 Rotary grenade launcher*
Then crow pulls out a pew-pew laser gun
@@HovektheArtist followed by a silenced makarov
Imagine tho, the p5 cast (and Naoto?) just using guns to summon personas
@@spaaaaaaceee haru just shoots herself with a grenade launcher
@@dededeletethis9940 that would be an explosive end
naoto: guns? i got this.
minato: *oh that's a GUN gun*
Naoto was ready to show mitsuru what her gun does jeeze
Akechi: Oh this? Yeah, it's totally a fake gun.
Is that a haha Davis reference
@@jostardusklight8365 "You using actual bullets bucko? This beyoooooond me"
Narukami Yu: *You couldn't shoot your shot in no girl*
I love the thought that because it takes place during the Sae arc, Akechi is having to act perfectly throughout the entirety of Q2 and endure all these completely dumbass conversations without just screaming at them
Akechi actually does get some great moments in this game. In the early game he's more tolerant I think due to the unknown circumstances but as it progresses and he interacts with characters like Naoto, Koromaru, Ken and Shinji it really opens up his perspective and shows elements we didn't see in P5. When it comes to this I think he just wants to deal with this movie so he can gain a full understanding of what's going on and FEMC is of course, naturally polite to him.
I would love to see black mask akechi in pq2
@@NullWes10 or pq3
@Friendly Neighbourhood Phantom Thief Yaa you start to see cracks in his persona lol. Especially in the side missions with Ken it definitely fleshed out his character more and its a cool little lead into Royal which add more character to him
@@NullWes10 probably in pq3, and hopefully we can see violet too
Naoto: DID SOMEBODY SAY GUN?! I HAVE GUN TOO
I love how aggressively she pulled out her gun lol
@@archivist_13 He?
@@archivist_13 She ain’t no he
@@Pvsn08 mistyped sorry
@@greenherb3229 mistype
“Do you risk your life too leader?”
Minato: *is the only one to technically die* “I don’t know”
@Joseph Myles stfu bot
@Mohamed Amari stfu bot
(Cough) Shinjiro (Cough)
@@caramba2345 to be fair he was dying anyway
makoto
I love that when they are talking about crow's mask he just stays in that pose and looks like he's about to snap
I feel like if it was last-semester akechi he would have legitimately pulled a gun.
@@iamme8359 haha literally
@@iamme8359
Truee
He's doing his best to keep in character.
@@iamme8359 true
“That sounds like something in a movie.”
Persona 3 The Movie: *sweats*
Though PQ2's just "P5 is so cool!" I find the way Minako asks questions just so polite and not invasive at all.
I think she has a way of praising people that sound genuine.
It’s more than “P5 is so cool!”, it’s also “Hamuko is so great!”
For real, what was the point of her? It would’ve been interesting to have the Makoto, Hamuko, and Hamuko’s world. Makoto’s SEES already got their time in the previous game. Hilarious that for the first time they ever got to meet or be acknowledged by ATLUS, those two hardly interact meaningfully and all it is is Hamuko being “sooo cool” w/ the other SEES members. It would’ve been better to see her SEES since they’ve only been featured in one game, while Makoto’s has been in 4 other games.
To be fair, Persona 5 IS really cool.
@@TheActualMrLink yep, sales don't lie.
It's fitting of her character as well. Think about it, in PQ2 Minako feels like a genuine outcast among her P3 counterparts because she knows all of them, but they don't know her. And what are the Phantom Thieves "Outcasts who were unfairly labelled" it would make sense that Minako of all people would feel a connection to them. If there's one character who stands out in this game it's Minako.
@@ma.2089 Everyone literally getting freaked out by seeing themself,lol
Yes. Crow's nose.
Totally doesn't have to deal with being a Pinocchio reference. He's not lying about his true personality at all.
It's just a design motif. Yup, just a design motif.
-Say anyone want some delicious Pancakes?-
Jesus Christ, I never even thought about that. I don't tend to look up details/references and usually try to figure them out personally but whew, that's cool.
@@pokkiheart
Akechi = Igor confirmed
I see both personas that Akechi has as two manifestations of himself. The detective prince is who he wants to be and tries to be, but Loki is his darker, unstable side. Remember personas are a manifestation of yourself so both are technically still him.
@@jen9036 well he fully embraces his dark side and it seems like he prefers it and Robin Hood is just his public face that he shows to everyone except shido and later the phantom thieves while Loki is his true personality when he has nothing to hide
hmm, while i do agree that it might be a pinocchio reference, thats not all there is to it. im pretty sure crow's robin hood persona formed when he established a connection with joker... aka how wild cards work. so while yes, he is sort of lying about his "true" self, both of his personas are his "true" self.
it could be taken more as crow HIDING himself rather than LYING about it, if that makes sense.
6:15
Joker: *Flashback to Violet's Transformation.*
@Alexander Carr During the events of the game, PQ2 takes place during Sae's Palace.
@Alexander Carr
I ment this happened after joker first visit
*Spoilers^
Maruki’s Palace in on the 3rd Of October.
@Alexander Carr
You’re taking too seriously. The joke I made is when Kotone/FemMC mention that the PT changed to their uniforms like a magical girl style and I referenced that Violet’s transformation sequence was like a Magical girl sequence like sailor moon.
@Alexander Carr joker is mute in this game, Morgana has to reason to mention, and none of the other PTs know about her so there’s no reason to bring her up
Hell, this could just be a reference to her
@@ma.2089 I don't exactly think it's possible to reference something new in an old game like this, especially seeing as Royal came years after PQ2. -Bit of spoiler below-
There could be hints pointing at Kasumi/Sumire here and there, but outright references aren't possible in the slightest
You're telling me Phoenix isn't a choice for Yukiko's code name? I'm disappointed, Atlus
Fuck it, I'll do it myself! Give me some time!
Guillotine would fit Mitsuru quite well
French, execution...
Pugilist fits for Akihiko.
Hades or cerberus for Koromaru
Male p3 MC probably Knight
Kung pow for Chie if we're sticking to the caricature.
@@alfredwinchesterjr Knight/Maestro
@@alfredwinchesterjr "kung pow"? how is it different than "kung pao"? i'd call her "monk"
naoto im sure would love "Holmes" even if its hard for them to pronounce it.
rise probably "ideal" as
im not so sure on the guys:
only that Kanchi might like "brave"
ya know and if junpei is so average-- like the average joe why not, "civilian?""anonymous?"
Yu: Kingpin (it fits)
Yosuke: Ninja (because he's quick, agile and uses daggers)
Chie: Dragon (because of kung fu association)
Yukiko: Blossom (because of the whole "proper japanese lady" thing)
Kanji: Crossbones (because of his shirt)
Rise: Star (she is an idol, but also stars were used for navigation way back when, and rise is the navigator)
Teddie: Ted (if morgana's code name is just his name but short, then we can do the same for teddie)
Naoto: Prince (because of the whole detective prince thing)
Minato: Blues (his hair, but also the music genre fits with him wearing head phones, and feeling blue is a synonym for being sad, and minato is literally dead inside)
Minako: Sparkle (bright personality, but also a single spark can cause a destructive flame, and based on the lyrics of wiping all out, minako wants to be taken seriously, like fire is)
Yukari: Sniper (because bow and arrow)
Junpei: Slugger (because baseball)
Akihiko: Champ (because boxing)
Mitsuru: Empress (i would pick queen, but makoto already has that)
Fuuka: Guide (that's her job)
Aigis: Ribbon (it fits)
Koromaru: Koro (same as morgana and teddie)
Ken: Lancer (jup, his weapon)
Shinjiro: Cloak (his outfit, but he also tries to keep his past cloaked)
Some of these might not seem too creative, but i would like to point out that of the eight core phantom thieves, three named themselves after the shape of their masks
I like how Yosuke and P3MC share Yuri Lowenthall as their VA so it just sounds like they’re talking to each other but in different voice pitches 😂
Wait, Yosuke is Spider-Man?
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective yes, he is also Sasuke
@Peko Pekoyama more to add to the collection! Yuri Lowenthall is still voice acting in many places
@Peko Pekoyama Surely, that was Tara Strong.
@Peko Pekoyama Nope, the original Ben 10 was definitely Tara Strong.
Persona Q: Full voice acting
Persona Q2: Hehe/Ahaha/Ah/Hmm/Na-/Grr
*Proceed to speaks the SIMS language
And Japanese
Q2 has full acting though, it just has far more dialogue quite a number of those scenes had to use stock sounds. Fortunately Q2 has the better story and the better gameplay to back itself up though.
Ya Atlus assumed PQ2 wouldn't do as well in the states so they didn't bother with a dub. Which is sad but hey at least we got the game for awhile many thought it would be exclusive
It wasn't fully voiced in Q either.
To my knowledge there are 4 ways to summon a persona
Shooting yourself
Breaking cards
Ripping off masks
And summoning them like they are Stands from Jojo's
Sounds about right
@@Twocat5side Yeah that...
Right gun Jesus..
That guy was a creep but he really did summon them like a stand
@@Oreca2005 I was talking about persona 1 & 2 is/ep
more like "PERSONAAAAaaaaaa....."
"Do you all not use guns?"
Naoto: pulls out her gun and shoots mitsuru.
*"I use one."*
Haru: *pulls out a grenade launcher and destroys the whole place* Me too!
Why Mitsuru? 🥺 Why not that little shit Ken and Teddie?
@@jameswent48 because mitsuru asked the question
P3 gang: Represent their will to fight for the world and saving them without any recognition
P4 mystery investigation team: crushing the tarot card to grasp the truth of this world and hold on to their own destiny
P5 theives: Using mask as a rebellion against society that won't accept them and will fight it for the their own justice
P1 and 2: lol JoJo's bizarre adventure
@@lowhp_comicI love this guy xD
and p1 and p2 juste casually sumon them like a stand in the real world
P1 and 2: LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!
Im pretty sure that its established that you can summon your persona without doing any of those, and even in the real world
Naoto just casually whips out their gun and poses with it.
Yeah lol she was like "Did somebody say GUN?!"
naoto is a SHE NOT AN IT
@@pyroflare7774 this is true, however, a gun is an ‘it’.
@@pyroflare7774 It was referring to the gun not to Naoto...
@@aruekai be careful how you.word things or the twatter community might come after you x.x
Ryuji: Pass
Yusuke: Pass
Ann: Pass
Ren: Pass
Morgana: son. of. a. *B I T CH*
Just your ordinary trio
Baton pass!!!
More like Tycoon.
6:19 its not really that hard to explain. In a nutshell, you enter the metaverse, bad guy talks shit about you and you start to hear voices in your head. Mask appears on your face and you practically rip your face off to change clothes
From our pov. They basically have to clue what was happening to them 💀
Seems like it’s unanimous that using code names on missions is cooler. While putting a gun shaped device to your head can sometimes give the wrong impression, pulling off a mask and getting a costume to go with it is overall cooler. But the P3 cast are overall more organized as they do have an official sponsor in the Kirijo group.
Keep in mind, the Phantom Thieves are a vigilante group and media sensation that publicly and quite flashily announces to the world that they are going to steal a person's heart, while SEES is a top-secret corporate-backed operations unit tasked with operating during a period of time almost no one else is even aware exists.
Technically, Leblanc sponsors the phantom thieves.
@@LordCommander-ui2fw
Well its oretty clear at this point that SEES probably knows the phantom theifs use personas maybe.
Thinking about P4 sponsor is hilarious since its like Yu pocket money
@@theartillery9724 Valid.
I love how weak everyone else's codenames are, save for Narukami. I feel like Chie could be Dragon, Yukiko could be Phoenix or smth similar, and P4 cast could continue with that mythical creature naming system, with Narukami staying as Kingpin.
I feel like you could connect it to their P4A nicknames
Like,
Ressentiment for Yosuke
Dragon for Chie
Snow Black for Yukiko
Emperor for Kanji (matches up with his Arcana, too)
Superstar for Rise (because Idol is, in fact, too obvious)
Beast for Teddie
Killjoy for Naoto (on the one hand, oof, but on the other, it is kinda cool)
Slugger for Junpei
Pink Sniper for Yukari
Two-fist for Akihiko
Imperious for Mitsuru
Pretentious for Ken
Tenderfoot for Koromaru
And then we can expand that to others, like Dick for Adachi.
@@demi-femme4821 wait is that want they called him in p4a. I thought it was ego something.
@@demi-femme4821 Actually, Ted for Teddie makes sense since they were following the same logic with Morgana where his code name was just a shortened version of his actual name, same with Sophia in Persona 5 Strikers where her codename is Sophie.
@@thisismyfirstusernameimade3007 yea non human companions just get shortened names
I think Diva can fit Rise
PQ definitely has more of the “how both teams operate” with their conversations about the dark hour and tv world. And the P3 gang give more of an explanation as to why they use evokers to summon personas. But I especially liked when Mitsuru said that both teams simply have different burdens that they carry, as that difference shouldn’t invalidate the P4 gang’s efforts for saving their town vs SEES with saving the world.
But Q2 was just more focused on how cool the P5 gang are for having outfits and code names, and long conversations about giving everyone code names that honestly kind of dragged on for too long for me. (Even some of the characters got annoyed too) And then only one comment from Ryuji and femc about the different ways to summon a persona, you’d think there be more to talk about... (this game really is just “P5 featuring 3 and 4” huh)
However, I feel bad for P4 in both games... yeah tarot card crushing isn’t as flashy as using a mask + costume or shooting yourself in the head with a gun, but it’s still a different summoning method. And each member has a different way of crushing the cards (Yosuke literally does a flip, I love how extra that is!)
Edit: Decided to come back to this long comment, and I’m amazed at both how many ppl liked what I said, and especially how respectful the comments have been! Heck, I’m more surprised that ppl have been discussing on this thread all this time and even now.
My opinions on what I said in my og post haven’t changed, but I enjoyed reading what everyone had to say or add on regardless if I fully agreed or not. I hope y’all continue to keep it peaceful down there, and have more fun and interesting discussions ❤️
For another look at things, while the p3 crew worked more to save the world from entire death, they also didn't directly face a god. In fact, the character with a connection to Nyx even would rather side with the crew over just killing everyone. Meanwhile, the P4 crew directly found themselves in the middle of a god's machinations. The difference in the trial and the willingness of the others to go along with the journey may also be included in the difference. P3 had the active threat of death present, so the persona users needed the resolve to face death itself in order to activate their personas. P5 had persona users that were so frustrated with the state of affairs they were faced with and the events around them that they shed their weaker, more powerless selves to become the phantom thieves of heart. P4 crew mostly just learned important lessons about themselves and tagged along for the ride, hence the most simple way of summoning their personas. Then again, this is just some thoughts I have about this.
@@2reinrein I was gonna make a counter, but yeah Nyx isn’t a god. Ryoji called her the mother of shadows. She is basically death itself, not a god or god of death like other beings
And I didn’t mind your addition, I see your point
Probably because the P3 and P4 cast already met... So the players know what they think of each other... Since P5 is the new guy, players would like to know more about how they'd interact with the P3 and P4 cast, thus the emphasis on P5. That's just me playing devil's advocate though.
@@awildnoviceappears I see what you mean, but Q2 isn’t a sequel to PQ or anything. New fans/P5 fans can play Q2 without knowing the first game since both are standalones. Anything that happened in PQ is disregarded for Q2
@@princessdawn3389...from my personal experience, if you put a 2 in anything people will instantly assume. Watch this... GUYS THRE'S AN EMOJI MOVIE 2 COMING OUT... See people will look that up
Mitsuru: "...Hm? Do you all not use guns?"
Naoto: my time has come
This is during the Sae arc, regarding PQ2.
What's real interesting is that Akechi is playing the Phantom Thieves, yet they are also playing him. They're going to be ultimately betraying each other, yet here they are, working together.
It's just something that's underlying everything going on in PQ2. The Thieves know he's gonna betray them. Akechi thinks he's got the upper hand on them. Before the year is out, Akechi's life will end.
Just... sobering when you dwell on the dynamics of their relationship for this game. They're goofing around, yet they have to stab each other in the back. Akechi STILL has his plan to kill Joker in custody.
Just adds a layer to EVERYthing the P5 crew does in this game.
How to summon persona
P3 : Shoot your head with special gun
P5 : Pulling your mask
P4 : Tarot cards goes crunch
It's odd that they don't mention that last one.
The "fate" they destroy. The "fate," the tarot cards they take into their own hands and accepting your own "past"...
Or something, I ain't good at explaining
Persona 6: Tearaway Pants
@@genderenigma8276 yeah but p4 summoning id not edgy enough like the other
@@vinisher5039 i dunno, running away from your true self seems "I'm 14 and this is deep" enough
13:28 "That's surprsingly fitting, for some reason."
*Mass Destruction starts playing*
Minako is a treasure
Best character in the game...
Pretty much every persona game in a nutshell (only 3-5)
P3: Saving the world
P4: Solving the murder mystery
P5: Fixing a corrupted society
Kind of feels like P4 got shafted if that's the case because that's precisely what happens in P5 as well.
All of them saved the world. P3 saved humanity from death, P4 saved humanity from becoming mindless shadows, P5 saved humanity from becoming slaves.
1 and 2 is about saving the world too
1 is about saving the world by helping an ill girl through her self-destructive complexes.
While 2 they have to fight against the madness that comes about when humanity as whole is more willing to take gossip and hearsay at face value, in a city thats cursed to have _rumors become reality_
If we're being honest it's about finding the truth AND STOPPING THE FOG FROM SPREADING FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD
@@Zarathustra_infinite thats also because the fog only exists from Izanami thinking people wanted to live in blissful ignorance, due to how prolific Adachi's actions were on the two other pawns she chose, as well as on the people of Inaba
okay atlus, so "marin karin" isn't an option for mitsuru's codename?
Why didn't they ever point out how different the P4 cast summons their personas
Yeah that bothered me too... it’s not as flashy like the others but it’s still their style. You’d think there’d be a conversation as to why each member crushes the card differently, like Yosuke doing a flip or Naoto shooting it with a gun
Well, tarot cards are supposed to "reveal the truth" right? It fits the i.t & the themes of persona 4 quite nicely since they each faced the ugly parts of themselves
@@roninwarriorsfan Are you saying that they break the Tarot Cards because The Arcana is the mean by which all is revealed ?
Bc it's lame and basic
@@roninwarriorsfan I thought it was a symbolism of changing your fate, since tarot cards are used along the lines of seeing/deciding your fate
Yu - Kingpin (The leader, has that player aura about him)
Yosuke - Prince (Referring to Prince of Junes)
Chie - Dragon (Referring to Trial of the Dragon)
Yukiko - Phoenix (Majestic, her persona uses fire attacks)
Kanji - Bulldog (Often seen as vicious, but like most dogs he has a softer side)
Naoto - Jack (fits with the card theme (Joker, Queen), a nickname for a detective)
Rise - Harmony (Musical term referring to her being an idol, provides support for the team)
Teddie - Ted (It's Ted...)
Not as familiar with P3 since I've only watched the films but I've got a couple:
Makoto - Prophet (He is literally Persona Jesus)
Mitsuru - Butcher (Nickname for an executioner)
Junpei - Slugger (Baseball reference)
Akihiko - Gladiator (A fighter with unbreakable spirit)
Aigis - Android (A robot with human spirit)
Gladiator's a bit too many syllables. I'd call him 'Spartan'
I mean, one of Yu's canon nickname is "the sister complex kingpin of steel" (source: p4a)
Korumaru: Wolf
4:40 I'm fucking dead
Kanji is a National Treasure
Minako has a lot of personality in this game that I forgot she was a protagonist
That's lore accurate considering she's the only one who's not in the original P3 group
@@SDSXellan unless this is counting p3p
"Hellbeast summoned from the deepest depths"
Yeah that's koromaru alright
Cerberus more likely
@@bukalayzx isn't that just his persona though
@@someonestolemytoast2139 yep it his persona and an apt description of cerberus
*insert all videos of persona teammates wearing-*
P3,P4,P5 Girls: DONT YOU (censored) DARE
@@enrique16ish or you can just say the reference
The best part about this game is that Yuri Lowenthal can talk to Yuri Lowenthal
Hm Kanji what about skull part 2?
Kanji: wh yes you treating me like I am so dam sequel?!
Yeah he’s the prequel
"Bullet" Would've been a cooler nickname since he wears a bullet necklace.
Yukiko = Phoenix
Naoto = Bullet
Chie = Dragon or Ryuku
Rise = Melody
Kanji = Hare
Teddie = Grizzly
Yosuke = Camo
Yu = Silver
Nah Kingpin is allright
Yu would be CHAD
I raise Holmes for Naoto
rockstar would be good as hell for yosuke (he fucking loves rock)
Chie’s should just be Dragon.
I like how Kotone is not understanding any of it and immediately talks about how the evoker works
I LAUGHED HARD like how Naoto answered so fast and of you think about it, out of all the characters in the group Naoto is actually the one with the real weapon XD (possibly Akechi too)
Did you forgot that there are 4 persons who are already a living weapon? Especially protein
Akechi has no real gun. He stole the guard’s gun to kill him and shadow Ren, then he left the gun behind. Akechi’s meta verse gun is nothing but a toy.
*SISTER COMPLEX KINGPIN OF STEEL!!!*
I was gonna comment thattt, damn😂
"It's only natural."
“How do so many people know that nickname? Is the Midnight Channel involved somehow?”
Imma be real, “Champ” would be the perfect code name for Akihiko.
Chad*
Chad Champion*
Protein*
PROTEIN
And more protein
The "Kingpin" choice for Yu gives me flashbacks to the Kings Game scene from the P4 anime...
I believe it's a reference to P4 Arena:
Sister-Complex *KINGPIN* of Steel
If I understand the metaphysics of the SMT/Persona world correctly, the Phantom Thieves aren't just wearing their will as a metaphor, but literally. Their current outfit is made of will energy, the same meta componentry that makes up the castles/dungeons, the sparks created by pistol summoning, and the bodies of the demons/persona themselves. It has no weight or constriction as they're not technically wearing a "thing", but an energy form resembling clothes that covers them, so they can bound around with full flexibility. They may also technically be naked... 😳
Think of it like Bayonetta, her clothes are pretty much her own hair.
Wasn't it explained that the outfits were basically formed from their own Will of Rebellion to protect them from the Distortions in the Metaverse?
Meanwhile in P2 their will is reality
I love how Mitsuru respects the burden of the P4 Gang, instead of belittling them just because it's not as high stakes as their own
What's funny is that, if the P3 crew mention they are stopping Apathy Syndrome, the P4 Crew would know about it, especially Naoto since it would be in the news and all over the internet and such
i'm confused if Morgana thought Ann swung that way or if he was doing his usual *insert funny YourBudTevin reference here*
Who?
20:39 Minako: y'know the saying puke your guts out? *Yeah you'd be taking that literally.*
I love how acquainted they are about the Gun evokers. Even Junpei doubts if it's sane for people to use it how they do.
12:56 Sorry Teddie but there's already "Everyone's Idol", and his name is Goro Majima.
Bring in team nineties from Persona 2: Eternal Punishment. They’d probably be called geezers and grandmas, by the teams from 3, 4, and 5. And then there’s be this odd moment:
Oracle: why is it that Joker is the only one of us that can summon multiple personas, while you guys can apparently share your multiple personas?
Baofu: you kids are fucking ameteurs.
5:29
Yusuke: *nude painting intensifies*
This is actually really interesting...
Junpei was doubting them enter the tv but notntheir school turning into tarturous... bruh
Super late but I agree seems so weird that the writers would focus that much on Junpei not believing that
"Skull, part 2" fucking killed me
The p3 team that essentially goes into another world via waiting for the hidden hour finds it hard to believe that the p4 team can go into another world via entering inside of a tv.
Find it hard to believe to not believe.
Junpei's Believe It Or Don't finally got a second season.
Now I really want to know... If SEES and the Investigation Team end up in the Metaverse, then will they transform into phantom thief attire? They may not have in PQ2, but that could be because they've never been to Mementos or any Palaces before.
Although different in appearances, I'd assume Tartarus and the Midnight Channel are inherently no different from the Metaverse, realms of cognition. So whatever means each group has of accessing each of their respective places probably won't change if they do so in a different place, so no outfits of rebellion for them likely
@@saltyfishface4618 That is an interesting theory. Does that mean if those two teams entered the Metaverse, would they not get their outfits? I guess we don't know exactly how the Metaverse works
In Arena the Shadow Operatives enter in the TV world and they discover that they don´t need to use evokers to summon their personas there. They only needed to think about it. Then Inaba turns into a Dark Hour and the Investigation Team still could do their stuff without evokers. I think that if both groups enter in the Metaverse they won´t get their attires for not having the "rebellion" awakening, they don´t need to hide themselves from society but they probably will be able to summon their personas without problems and without needing a mask. Anyway would be really cool if any persona user who enters in the Metaverse gets a costume.
@@LinkaDL Good points. I'm sure they would be given special attire because Atlus wants to be creative and they can milk them for merch. I also wonder if the Thieves would still have their attire in Tartarus or the TV World. Maybe we'll find out if they make Persona 5 Arena :)
@@dumbdave961 In the Cinema world it works at least while their weapons don´t for cognition reasons so who knows.
Would be awesome to see Narukami in Phantom attire.
Joker: Kingpin
Yu: How many people know about that nickname? Is the Midnight Channel involved somehow?
I think a good alternative codename for mitsuru would be: crimson flower
Three guesses why
Or just... Crimson
@@awildnoviceappears it’s kind of a joke about her English va
@@Ren_kurogane_CK my point still stands
@@awildnoviceappears I understand. I was just trying to make a joke
@@Ren_kurogane_CK I know... My point still stands tho. If Mitsuru was a Phantom Thief, her codename would be Crimson
10:05 oh i LIVE for Black Fire, that's PERFECT, its even a reference to Starfire sister!
Joker : "It's not my job to explain things."
thank you for this; this reminds me i need to finish q2 especially after finishing strikers
How did NOBODY come up with the idea for "Detective" as Naoto's codename?
A bit too boring.
Akeci is also one even if he has crow already
I can't get over the fact that morgana actually said nyani
(5:32)
I like minako's way of thinking
"Skull, Part 2..."
But he's the prequel
Makoto: Mortem
Minako: Somnia
Junpei: Cavalier
Yukari: Feather Pink
Mitsuru: Empress
Akihiko: Strife
Ken: Ghost
Shinji: Guardian
Koromaru: Pale Tiger
Fuuka: Cybil
Yu: Kingpin
Yosuke: Fujin
Chie: Dragon
Yukiko: Scarlet
Teddie: Kuma
Kanji: Crossbones
Rise: Siren
Naoto: Hornet
What about Aigis?
You know
Rise I think can have “Northstar” as her code name
Star cause idol
North cause navigator
Navigating Idol
Northstar
One thing that annoys me is how Narukami and Amamiya don't fit into the game's character limit for names despite the fact that there are characters in the game with longer names too. Akihiko and Morgana for example.
In fairness, the character limit was probably made with Japanese characters in mind. With Japanese characters, every name you just mentioned would be 4 characters long (though their names would also be stylized as Kanji and therefore no more than 3 characters long)
I see a lot of comments saying P5 rips off a mask, nobody mentions that it looks like their face under the mask goes too, considering how bloody it looks.
Edited for spelling errors
That's because after the first summon they don't actually do that anymore
So far, here are my proposed codenames for the P4 and P3 cast if they were phantom thieves
Yu- Kingpin
Yosuke- Shinobi
Chie- Dragon
Yukiko- Phoenix
Kanji- Brawler
Rise- Shine
Naoto- Thinker
Teddie- Ted
Yuki- Savior
Minako- Warden
Yukari- Sniper
Mitsuru- Executioner
Akihiko- Gladiator
Junpei- Slugger
Fuuka- Sage
Ken- Avenger
Koromaru- Scourge
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it's funny that the p4 team says that saving the world is something you only see in movies and stuff when later on in P4 you have to do the exact same thing lol
The other teams are commenting on how weird the PT's outfits are, when really it's just as weird fighting monsters and solving murders wearing your school uniform.
The P3 cast are able to summon their persona in the real world right? P4 and P5 are able to use it in an alternate world.
Damn P3 cast are something else with that much force of will.
Is more because the Dark Hour takes place in the real world and they force it with the evoker. In P4 Arena it happens in Inaba and everybody (P3 and P4 casts) can summon their personas in real world too. If a persona user enters in a certain zone (Dark Hour, TV World or Metaverse) his/her powers will work accord to the area (for example, in TV World they don´t need evokers so P3 users were calling their personas with their minds).
@@LinkaDL it sorta depends. Cuz Fuuka was shown in P4A able to summon a persona in the real world and outside the dark hour. Something Rise could not. Also something that Makoto could do that Yu (and Ren) couldn’t was move fusion. So it feels like the P3 cast are likely stronger since it does take more to summon their personas in the dark hour compared to the TV world. It’s possible for everyone else to do it irl, but none of them have shown capabilities like Fuuka and Makoto (tho might not reflect on the other kid’s capabilities since he has the universe arcana and held death within his body).
That said, didn’t the P3 cast still use their evokers in P4A? Other that that moment they’ve never been to the TV world.
Same for the P1 and P2 casts. They all can use multiple personas each and can summon their Personas just by posing in situations like The Dark Hour. However, them being far stronger than the P3-5 casts is likely related to why the events of those games happened (Phil and Nyarly), whereas P3-5 happens without their involvement. And it seems that the fool persona wielder causes the other kids to get their persona; rather than it being given by Phil. Instead of everyone being given it, it seems it’s only given to the “fool” (0) who then gives it to other arcana ppl.
I think that The Dark Hour is the equivalent of Mementos combining with the real world, that is why it is possible to summon Personas.
@@ma.2089 In Arena is shown that the Kirijo Group has objects that can recreate the Dark Hour in a room. I think it was the reason of why Fuuka was able to using her persona. Of course Rise has no idea about this so she thinks that she did it outside. But Rise is powerful, her multiple faces and constant change makes her the user closest to a wildcard. She can´t change personas but can change hers to adapt it to the current situation turning it into a fighting one or a king size like Satanael.
About Makoto, the Universe arcana power until now is to kill yourself to become a seal. He can perform fusion spells due to death that makes him the wizard of the MCs. The fact is that Joker is the agile one and Yu the physical stronger, their stats in Q2 (or in Star Ocean x Persona 5) reinforce this (wizard, rogue and tank). Each MC is special in his own way and the teams equal. For example, Elizabeth was in panic when Yu unleashed the true power of the wild saying that she hadn´t seen anything like that before.
I don´t see how to use a tool to force your persona to go out is to be strong. The IT had to face the worst of themselves and be almost killed in the process to get their personas. I don´t remember if the P3 use their evokers in the Dark Hour in Inaba but they didn´t in the TV World because they discovered that thinking about it was faster.
All this just makes me want a big crossover game with no cut corners involving all the cast members. Obviously that'd be a big ask but the pay off would be worth it.
huh yeah I didn’t notice how they’re the only ones that wear costumes
Skull Part 2: Electric Boogaloo!
i wonder of all the mascot characters represent a force of human consciousness
like morgana was hope is teddy love?
that would explain a lot of teddie's behavior tbh
I only read Q2 in the title and when I heard the English Dub in Q1, I was so confused.
3:39 at this part i was imagining about yu actually sticking his other "head" into the tv and teddie bites it from inside, god im so weird and messed up
For P4 codenames
Yukiko: Hostess could honestly work, otherwise Nurse
Chie: Butcher, kinda aggressive, but I think it's a good mix of fighting and meat
Kanji: Wrestler, come on guys, that was obvious
Yosuke: Ninja
Teddie: Bear
Rise: Idol
Naoto: Detective or Gunslinger
Yu: Samurai, I don't understand why Kingpin should work for him, granted I haven't seen the entirety of P4's story, but him using a katana and his persona being quite literally one of the first gods in japanese mythology, Samurai seems fitting for me
The beauty of P5's codenames is that it's a simple but effective codename, saying that Idol is too obvious when the guy wearing a Fox mask is called mother fucking Fox is a lil bit hypocritical SKULL
For P3
Yukari: Archer, simple yet effective
Akihiko has to be Boxer, as much as I love the gag, if it was supposed to he serious, Boxer it is
Shinji I would go with Brother, as much as that sounds strange, it is what defines him best, other than that I could only think of Yakuza or Gangster soooooo
Junpei is Batter, both he being a baseball star and the way he fights
Mitsuru is Empress, it's literally what they called her, but in a single word
Ken as Lancer is simple yet effective again
Koromaru I'd say either Gatekeeper, Guardian or plain ol Dog
Fuyuka I have no idea, Strategist is too big, Advisor is lame, so yeah, got nothing
Makoto and Minako could be Musician and Muse or Blue and Red, both represents them really well as complementary or opposite simbols
The Kingpin part is a reference to the fighting game where everyone has a title.
Yu's was Sister Complex Kingpin of Steel which is why they immediately mentioned Nanako there.
@@alexanderticonuwu7591 yeah but why kingpin?
@@leonardodelimaferreira8509 I don't know but it fits for me in a way I just can't explain.
He just feels like someone you'd call a kingpin.
I'm guessing the folks who made Arena thought the same thing.
@@leonardodelimaferreira8509 There's actually some reason for that.
Basically, before Persona 4 released in Japan, Japanese fans called him "Banchou," which is the name of a leader of a group of delinquents, as Izanagi's long leather jacket looked like a Banchou jacket. It was picked up for Persona 4 Arena, but in the West it was translated as Kingpin, as "Leader of a group of delinquents" is obviously too long, so they needed something snappy with a similar meaning.
4:44 never heard thus line before and I LOVE it. No context.
6:19 Kotone predicting Kasumire’s first transformation.
Could you imagine if THAT broadcast in 5 had aired before the events of the game
Yu: there body’s end up on Tv polls
Ren: does the name toro Adachi rings a bell
Yu:yes
Ren: I have good news
Yu: yeah he works with my uncle and he sometimes eats dinner with us
Ren: I have bad news
17:08 extra crispy on that roast there yukari
18:20 you need to remember that Ken has an outfit without any black and ren wears the most black, his eye are black for effs sake
Also I feel like fuukas code name should be teal, she’s the only one who actually wears teal
I love how Naoto posts up with her gun like she's gonna do something while Aigis is literally right there who's essentially a walking tank.
I love how the description says "Only best girls in the thumbnail." While having Joker in it. So Joker's a girl now.
Inserts picture of Joker's drag outfit in P5D
@@anthonykaltenecker2802 i don't think the manga's canon.
@@Liquidruby5 P5D = Persona 5 Dancing
@@thefrozeneskimo3775 i know that. Why are you telling me abo-oh. You thought the outfit came from P5D. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yes
I would love a legit persona game where all the protagonists and their friends comes together to fight one major enemy
20:31 you brought that upon yourself chie with mystery food x
Anyone know what the joke behind Platinum Lady is? I get all the code names for the p4 crew excluding that one.
Codenames:
Yukiko: Okami/Hostess
Naoto: Platinum Lady/Girl
Rise: Idol
Chie: Sirloin
Kanji: Skull, Part 2/Dammit Skull
Teddy: Ted
Yu: Kingpin
Akihiko: Protein
Yukari: Miss Pink
Ken: Mister Black (I liked Lancer tho :|)
Koromaru: Hellbeast Summoned from the Infernal Depths
Junpei: Goatee
Shinjiro: Brood
Fuuka: Killer Chef
Mitsuru: Executioner Queen
Minako: Headphones (could be for Makoto too but idk)
Naoto really was like: DID SOMEONE SAYS *GUN* ?
I would love if the P3&4 cast got Phantom Thief outfits and proper codenames at some point. Granted they operate a little different from thieves, but still!
Seeing Shinji's remark on how Akihiko dumps protein powder on his food is more funny to me now that Reload retconned that retcon.
Kanji should've been Bunny because that's the most common animal he crochets.
Maybe, but it doesn't really help that the bunny in this game is a villain who turns into one because of his insatiable sex drive. Does that fit Kanji?
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective .... a fair argument
Teddie's code name is Narciss
Like Narcissist
or Simp
either work
Meanwhile akechi standing in the back trying not to unleash loki and blow everything up
10:22 isn't there a game called Okami that stars Amaterasu as the character?
There are many games in which that occurs. They're both Shinto gods but Okami/Okami-Den are indeed the ones.
it could be fun to see p3 and p5 characters facing their shadows in the tv world, but since they already have personas I guess they can't
17:30 We can blame Atlas for that one.