Formula for a Funky Feel
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Here's a bit of a formula I kept in mind when putting together this funky tune for an episode of Sound Field that I am co-hosting with L.A. Buckner ("How James Brown Invented Funk": • How James Brown Invent... ). #PBSDigitalStudios #SoundFieldPBS. It's a #funkanalysis from an outsider's perspective - hope you enjoy it!
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Formula for a funk feel is as very funky name for a funk track
This entire comment is the name.
@@UniqueisUnity that's a terrific name for a funk band name
Phormula phor a phunk Pheel!
Yes! You really nailed the function that rhythm usually has in funk. I really like it when you explore different genres like this, especially with the 'scientific' approach, since it not only makes for consistency but also means you can explain your choices in a clear and concise way. Great video!
Thank you!! I really appreciate it!!
One of your greatest qualities with these videos is your humility towards styles you are less familiar with and acknowledging the limits of a purely analytical approach to music. Bravo!
You really put a lot of love and work in your videos! I really admire your work especially the funky stuff pls keep it up! 😊
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Brilliant!!! I am a retired keyboard player and when I was a young guy back in the 70s and 80s, our template was Sly, James Brown, Graham Central Station, P Funk, Tower of Power etc. I was fortunate to make my living as a freelance musician and thus was and still is a huge chunk of my vocabulary. I think that is so cool young musicians have studied the genre and are documenting specifics of the rhythmic language. I congratulate you. Thank you so much
Pretty funky! I can hear some Stevie Wonder type riffs in the combined take.
it's the clav from superstition
Love the little graphic that shows how the 16th snow rhythms were built up. Really interesting video, thanks for posting
Nahre! ABSOLUTELY THRILLED to have you on Sound Field! What should we name this song, so we can upload it to Soundcloud??!
Rhythm 'n Sol
@@Opuskrokus I was thinking Baby Popcorn
ludwig amadeus obviously.....
I like it@ludwig amadeus
Funk: How To
Such an inspiration! These videos make me want to keep growing as a musician! I love the way you present the info it’s so genuine and clear
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Same! this channel has made me listen to music differently!
Cool, it's that lost Herbie Hancock track from the 70s!. :D
I thought the same thing!
Thought the same!
Nahre! Wow! Funk musical beauty via numbers - a brilliantly superb approach with respect to clarity. I'm a non sight-reader with bananas for fingers but you are inspiring me. Big hugs & thanks from this 67 year old in the UK.
So cool to see this broken down. I've never thought to analyze funk rhythms and phrasing like this.
What a great way to visualize The Funk!! LOVE this!!
Thank you!!
You nailed it! That scientific approach is also how I went about learning this stuff
Thank you!!
Your scientific approach is like watching a water balloon burst in slow motion. I think it’s easy to feel and know in the body what is happening but by denoting visually and audibly what happens in each frame of the count you’re slowing down time. From there we can see all the pieces in great detail in a way that goes beyond just saying it. Thank you!
I love the little text, it really helps.
thx for the upload helps me feel like im on the right track towards my dreams n goals n wants n everything thank you so much
Great video and honestly a good formula to really get things going! Another thing about funk is to keep the stabs and accents very staccatissimo. Helps keep things feeling percussive and rhythmic. That said, I cant wait to see more Sound Field videos. :D
This is really awesome. It was very inspiring to see you develop a formula for the rhythmic phrasing. Also, to my ears your classical background revealed itself in the chord voicings. Without being a funk expert the timbres sounded a lot more complex compared to what i associate with funk chords in general.
Thank you!!
For me with most musical genres, especially funk, it's all about the feel and groove. The feel can be broken down to the repetition of rhythms and note choices. For anyone not familiar with a particular genre, I think it is very useful to breakdown the rhythms associated with a particular genre to find out the elements that are responsible for the feel. Thank you for sharing!
I love how fearless you are! Do it the way you do it:) sounds fantastic
very cool ideas! what a differences those two quarter note rests made that you added in the second versions! very inspiring thank you so much Nahre
Thank you !! ❤
That's brilliant Nahre! Thank you.
Thank you!!
You have a really great funk groove and feel! Those accents make all the difference!
I love your breakdowns. These are super cool. :)
Brilliant, Nahre, visually an musically!
the formula is awesome and easy to understand with sequencer
This is fun! One of the most important parts of funk is simply striking the pocket to carry that groove the right way. If you listen closely to how the drums are played, the snare comes in just a little bit late to land in that pocket, which makes for most of how the genre sounds. You can have a 4/4 beat played with no notated syncopation, but as long as the snare hits the pocket it will still sound funky. What's very fun to do over those kinds of beats is to play around with very few syncopated in a bassline under it, maybe even just one syncopated tone, with the rest being on beat. The few hits that are syncopated swing the groove in a crazy way because the use of them is so restrictive.
Very interesting approach. I have been funking for decades and never realized how good I am.
As a hard of hearing musician, thank you thank you THANK YOU for open captions!
I think that was awesome! Such a great explanation for anyone who wants to get into this genre! Thank you for the upload Nahre :)
This is gold! thank you so much to share.💞🎶
Thank you!!
You are getting close to unlocking the secret rhythm .... which is just a clave! 😂
Hi Haze!!
Happy New Year Nahre, thank you for your help!! :D
You made this so clear and concise. Quality!
Subdivisions are as important as intervals in music, a great way to figure it out if someone is not really involved into these things
Love it! Thank you!
The scientific approach is great. I would suggest looking up 'Bernie Worrell Funkadelic live' because he was another pioneer of funk music. He grew up with a classical music background which you can hear in his particular brand of funk
Wow this came together nicely. I'm not too musically inclined but I love the breakdown you did for how you got there
LOVE this video. I come from the same background of classical music so this was SUPER helpful!
This is cool as hell! I'd love explanations like this to potentially go through some of the other possibilities that don't work the way you want; like what it sounds like to put the stabs on ascending numbers instead of descending, or if different patterns of syncopation evoke other styles and genres.
I was at a talk with the late great Bernie Worrell and the still living and also great Fred Wesley and someone asked "how did y'all create funk?" and Fred just said "we just hung around with funky people"
Nice! Funky Nippon! I am a vessel. I hold things. You gave me another viewpoint. Thank you.
The stacked keyboards layout looks super cool! :)
Thank you!
Guitar player here. Your videos are super useful even tho I dont play piano. Keep it up!
Love it! Interesting approach and great collaboration!
Thank you Erik-!!
@@NahreSol I like the way you approach genres that you are not familiar with. Now that you have a great drummer for funk, you should jam with him and others who are comfortable in the genre. There is no substitute for playing with other musicians. BTW someone mentioned that your piece sounded like Herbie Hancock. I emailed you a YT link to a piece I wrote with quartal harmony with pre-funk "Herbie-like' chords. I always appreciate your feed back.
Love that funky clavinet sound! Yes! Thanks Nahre!!!
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Nahre Noona, You are Genius!!!
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@@NahreSol it's blow my mind, when you break down and explain about how the "funk" sound made me think
"how I did not realize it" TT___TT, anyway, i loves your videos! i am your fan from indonesia! :D,
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Really good stuff! One thing that gets left out of funk historical and rhythmic analysis, is the influence of Cuban music. This groove naturally fits into a 2-3 rhumba clave, and each of your parts line right up, more or less. try tapping it out. Very cool!
Yes!! You're right thank you :)
You "blinded me with science" but really helped take some of the mystery out of it. I'm sure someone will complain that it was simplified too much, but I don't think so. Thanks!
Thank you!!
super useful! i want to learn something more about that!
Interesting? That was amazing! And fits perfectly for some rhythm guitar lines as well. Ma'am, you are great! 😀😉😊
Thank you so much!!! ❤
Very nice, Nahre.
OMG, to funky. I’ve learned a lot from this
I hear a horn section in there...nice groove!
I wouldn't say I have a classical background, but I practice piano with musics from classic period, and I can't get into funky rythms, I think it made me remember musics from 80/90 that I dislike.
This is a huge topic that really can't be written about Swing and Funk are about time being organic and breathing in and out over a measure or two. It's about the minutia that the beat is moving back and forth within. There is a Swing aspect to good Funk. Some say it came from the Afro Cuban music and it's Clave making its way to New Orleans and they very subtle 3 against 4 clave making the beat float. The feel made its way to Kansas City into the begining of Swing big bands. People talk about Swing they talk about eighth notes, but you listen to great bass players like Ray Brown and Ron Carter they play a quarter note walking bass line and it Swings, it because of the minutia of the beat breathing in and out. In Funk that Afro Cuban influence in New Orleans made its way into Second Line beat that them made it's way in to Funk with the Neville Brothers and others. It's all in the minutia and can't be written down and can only be learned from lots and lots of listening to Funk and Jazz you have to get the feel into your gut. I would say Classical music has an equivalent when working on the style of the great composers especially later ones that there are recording of them playing or conducting their work. It's all in the minutia, it's all about feel.
Say minutia one more time
Okay "minutia" and for our next request.... And for our next tune we're playing "Really Tiny Movement".
Absolutely. I work with music in the electronic studio and I'm always adjusting the positions of individual notes within a groove - what you're calling minutia. I call it micro-timing. Just moving a note by a millisecond can really alter the feel within a funky groove. Bass slightly ahead gives one feel, right on is another feel, slightly behind another and so on but with real interesting differences coming from all of the shades between. Multiply that depth through all of the main groove instruments and you can get some really complex feels going on. A pattern that would be written identically in musical notation can be played many different ways and individual players can have their own distinctive grooves. The keyboard playing on this video was fine for pattern placement of notes but the actual groove timing was really hard on the ears. Drummer was funky though.
Exactly, that's why J. Dilla never used quanitize he wanted the shifts where hits occur.
Thank you, this was educational
This is amazing, I love the track and the ‘formula’ for creating it.
Thank you!!
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this is realy cool it reminds me a lot of how adam neely talked about polyrythems and how to count them
awesome thank you , very much, very helpful
Nahre...nice, well done
As you said, a scientific approach-mathematical approach to creating the groove
Though, in a real life setting with musicians in real time and that creative confluence, here the groove is created, refined and published by this symbiotic interactive feel that complements and fills a hole that only that instrument and musical personality can feel respectively
Also, for those of us that have played with musicians in this genre, the years of playing and listening freely to the master of this genre, deposits a well of feel, syncopation and inspiration to produce a phrase, riff or accented punch that makes the groove into its own musical entity
So interesting! Great work. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for this interesting video
Cool, Great video! :) I also liked the breakdown of the composition
woww，that's truly amazing
Beautiful video
Wish final track was mixed more to sound more meaty, but it still great. For sure will use your formula in the future
Thankyou nahre
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It's an improvement! Take out 3 of those layers at the end, and compress the drums and bass. Funk is much more about the rhythm than the notes. Like James Brown says in the movie Get On Up, you're not playing a guitar, trumpet, keys, etc. You're playing a drum. "When you're playing the drum, it don't matter what key you in, what bar you in, what planet you on". The best kinds of funk is the stuff that makes you want to get up and get down as soon as you hear it. It makes you want to walk and step confidently in time to the beat feeling like the coolest mother alive, even if you look like Tobey Maguire in 'that scene' from Spiderman 3. At the very least you gotta nod your head with it. It's all about the feeling.
End of the day, either you got the funk or you don't... And that's fine either way.
Yes this ^
The compositional Legos for Steely Dan. :-D
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I don't normally take the time to comment on videos, but your videos that resonate with what's in my mind and your visual aid make me say some nice words to show our appreciation. Keep the good work.
Here is an idea maybe you could work on and investigate, do music that we listened to shaped our musical thinking? for example I feel phrygian dominant more natural and I tend to play it more often because I listend to music of that scale.
It's so interesting how differently our brains think... and how differently musicians approach songs.
Sounds like you are starting to touch on Euclidian rhythms. I don't know if you know much about those, but they are certainly fun. I bet you could make a fun video about it.
When I play guitar or piano, I do it with a natural drum track in my head, and funk just happens. Classical musicians and the pieces they play have such a fluid rhythm that it's apples and oranges. I can see how it would take some discipline/conscious thought to go from Handel to Brothers Johnson.
Nice as always 🤗
Nicely done! Love your work and vibes! And kudos to the man on the skins.
As a drummer myself, and a big fan of the James Brown repertoire, I would only suggest as you go forward to perhaps come from the baseline first. So many of those tunes are driven by that beautiful funky bass. 🤩
Thank you!!
Awesome, very Hancock-ish 🤘🏿
i find it odd you needed subtitles. great work breaking down funk like that
You know... that formula was fairly simple... I dig it! I’ma use that!🤣👌🏽
great video really love this one
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Very cool! :)
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I like it. I think you've just helped me jazz up a jazz progression. At least in my mind, I'm not sure as to reality.
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@@NahreSol, if it works the way I'd like it to, it will be my second playable song written. The fun is the odd meter. Either 3/4 - 4/4 oscillation or something like that.
that was so interesting and inspiring too. i have 10 string lyre and wanna try something like this. thanks. :)
you are truly amazing :)
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amazing..... you use scientific approach on music, in this case, funk ..... Awesome
'nice, Nahre!
That was great!! Modern DAW software seems to help design layers like this. How difficult would this task have been without the computer (even with multiple musicians)? Thanks for the video, you make me smile every time. Cheers.
How cool was that!
Thank you!!
Wow culture is a helluva concept and can be a tremendous barrier. But you nailed it here with some help from your pal.Its just poly rhythms
Damn, i didn't know that even though funk/jazz is my main genre
The parallel 4th line from C/F to D/G lands on the beat with D/G a little too late for my taste, but not considering microadjustments in rhythm it’s pretty funky
I found that _very_ interesting!
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Blow my mind. I think you be deep inside of the brain from Herbie H. Thank you very much for break that down! 💭🎼👍💐
Dig it! This is a nice blend somewhere in between Herbie Hancock’s Chameleon and Stevie Wonder’s Superstition. ❤️
As someone with Autism; I wish more people did this clear scientific thingy.
I always twitch when someone says “Just do it like this! [plays music]”
Funk knows no bounds.
This is totally dope and it’s great that young folks are getting funky on their own accord...but...it’s a lot of musicians out there that have devoted their lives to being funky and making funky music still.
Please just listen to Hiromi as an entrance.
I think you've touched on about half of what funk is about. It's one thing to be able to understand the rhythm of Funk. But what's lacking here is a study of harmony. I hear a lot of roots and 7ths here. But no investigation of the #9th, the 11th or the tritone. I think it's great you're studying Funk. As a Classically trained musician also, my takeaway is we learn the rules so we can break them. That's the essence of popular music in general and Funk in particular.
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Great video!