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In this video we investigate Jelly Gouache, an exciting type of artist's paint, and how it might be useful as a tool in our miniature painting arsenal!
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As a regular gouache user: Remember that Gouache dries differently than it lays down bc of the pigment load: Dark colours dry lighter, and light colours dry darker. Just test your colours before you commit to them. It's basically ultra pigmented water colour, so it dries with a matte finish. This -might- affect your saturation levels a bit bc the paint surface is absorbing a lot of light. Windsor and Newton's gouache is the most saturated I've used. Gosh, those colours really pop. It's expensive, but great quality and colour fastness. Definitely recommend.
>Having a rough morning with work and decide to take a quick break to enjoy painting videos<
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when I saw the sister of battle I was not convinced, but then I saw the piggy warrior and I completely 180-ed. That's really cool
Thanks for sharing! I'm a mini painter who also does some traditional gouache painting. It's cool to see the paints used in a different way. I'll have to try your third method.
whenever I edit one of your videos Dana I end up with a massive desire to do whatever project it is, this is no exception as I'm exactly the kind of person you talk about this being benificial for, I can't do oil paints because of my set up so something that is similar but non-toxic will be really useful. Thanks for sharing 🥰
Thanks Annie! and thanks for the awesome edit!!!
We love a mcnugget sauce shape
8:40 - Oil washes do take a long time to dry, but you don't actually want to leave them that long before removing them from the raised surfaces. You can go longer or shorter depending on how much you want them to stain, but I generally only leave oil washes on for about 20 minutes before busting out the q-tips or makeup brushes.
I think the Sister came out in a really cool Blanchejitsu style! Definitely a cool looking model.
Impressionist is a really apt description, it has a very unique look
You can waterproof regular gouache with acrylic medium. And in terms of oils, lots of my modelling friends use them with gallons of thinners. Use water soluble oils instead and save the fumes. You can use them like regular oils if you wish but they've been modified to clean up with water.
When you thin water soluble oils with water to make a wash, they behave more like an acrylic wash. The thing about using mineral spirits is that it has a *very* low surface tension which gives excellent flow characteristics. For the overall smear method, it probably doesn't make a difference. For pin washes and the like though, you're really better off sticking with mineral spirits imho.
It bears repeating that when miniature hobbyists branch out into other art supplies, you should remember that many artist grade pigments are toxic. I do urge folks to adapt good studio practices when using art supplies, even if the particular gouache set in the video may be non-toxic.
I come from art background first and miniature painting second, and it horrifies me every time folks put brushes into their mouths!
Honestly, I don't get people who lick their brushes, even with non-toxic paints. That sounds nasty.
@@Bluecho4 It's the quick and easy brush-tip-fixing. Not justifying it - but the frustration of a bad brush is real. Damp fingertips work just as well, people!
I came at things the other way around. Picked up that brush licking habit in the 90s painting minis and I'm *really* trying hard to break it because, rationally, I know better. Strangely, I *only* do it with acrylics and only when painting miniatures. I don't particularly understand why working with other mediums is different in my mind. It just is somehow.
At least I haven't ever taken a drink out of my brush cleaning water. Doing that with my oil paints would leave me having a *really* bad day.
Puts hair on your chest. I hear cadmium tastes like sunshine.
@@jc7997aj I want to try that Uranium-containing glaze that they used to use on Fiestaware in the 50's.
I've been using Holbein Acrylic Gouache exclusively for all my miniature painting for over a year and really prefer it to my Scalecolor Artist paints. It has a completely matte finish, a truer use of pigments compared to those claimed by Scale75, and Holbein just seems like a more reputable company than Scale75. As you mention, gouache and acrylic gouache are completely different!
I'll add this to my list of paints to try out, thanks!
I've wondered if anyone tried Holbein or Turner Acrylic Gouache. Good to hear that they work well!
I'm sorry you had the surprise of purchasing regular gouache when what you were really looking for (without knowing it yet) was acrylic gouache, but I'm very happy to see your experiments with the set you have! I know these are fairly early findings, but I get this niggling suspicion there might be a way to really bring in water colour techniques and the water colour look to miniature painting using gouache; no idea if it would be any good, but I'm definitely interested by the possibility.
This is something that needs to be said but I haven't see it mentioned -
Jelly gouache is not the same thing as regular gouache which is also not the same thing as acrylic gouache.
I know it's confusing to have 3 different gouaches.
Jelly gouache is more like the gouache version of a heavy body acrylic.
Edit - Also, don't let an oil wash dry for 24 hours before wiping off. That's *way* too long. It'll be fully dried by then. Half an hour is more in the ballpark. Less time for less staining more time for more staining. If you do it immediately with a low staining pigment, it'll wipe completely clean with no staining at all.
Great experiment! Thank you for testing this out for us!
as someone who's painted minis with a good set of watercolours, it can be really helpful to take a page out of the doll customization crowd's book and implement a sealant such as mr superclear matte (i bet a thinned varnish through an airbrush would work similarly) into your workflow. it lets you layer the paints without worrying nearly as much about reactivating them and having them slide right off!
Do you try to use a more porous primer to help the water colour to adhere?
@@xavisimon3095 i use what i have on hand lol, i think i used vallejo grey primer but it was tricky to get it to adhere for the first couple layers, fine after
Looks like a really fun type of paint to try. Looking forward to giving it a shot.
*stares at the container of jelly paints that i opened, used once and have sat in a drawer for 3 years..*
At least you won't have to worry about whether they're still useable.
Just need water and they'll work again.
I know another TH-camr who uses gouache washes on minis and one of the things he likes most about it is that if he makes too much he can just let the water evaporate over time and reactivate the dried up bits in the bottom of the jar he's using next time he needs it.
Neato! FWIW: one of the benefits of oil washes is the thinners have a different surface tension than water, so they flow differently. No tide marks most of the time, even when you're very sloppy with them. But yah, the toxicity factor sucks.
Heck yeah! Love some g-g-g-guache washes, the best washes I can't spell. Great video Dana hopefully more people will give this great hobby tool a shot =]
I saw your video a while ago on gouache and picked some up and i love them! So awesome to see more creators making videos on them!
Came here to shout out your video, guache wash!
Cracking me up every time you say "gwosh". And why are you chemically anxious?
never heard of this stuff before. glad you showed me something
Ooh! I have to try this, if it's a working alternative to oil-washes. The long drying time and a lack of a good space are the two main reasons I've yet to use oil-paints with miniatures, but this seems like a good optional way to get the same result. I quite like seeing how gouache looks like it can be used for some Blanchitsu-like projects, or to give things a magical glow-y look.
Great video. I hope more people experiment with gouache. I use caran d'ache gouache pans since it stores dry and in a nifty small tray
I’ll make sure I don’t snack while using them :P Thank you for your video. I have been dying to try oil washes but my space is very small and poorly ventilated. No I haven’t tried.
Nice video. Neat to see how well the gel gouache coated the mini. My experiments with watercolor a long time ago had difficulty coating a miniature as the primer was a bit hydrophobic.
Very Blanchjitsu Grimedark. I like the effect but I'd probably go mad waiting around so much ;3
What we _really_ want (I think) is paints with indefinite water reactivation and UV curing. Is there a chemist in the house?
There are different kinds of gouache, some reactivate, some don't. Also, I'm surprised that no one seems to mention that there are water soluble oils now. It's the same as regular oil, except the clean up is done with soap and water (and even thinning is done with water) There are water-soluble additives too, but no solvents. Which means the drying time is faster, because it has to evaporate water, not turpentine/damar varnish/liquin or other additives.
Dana, another great video, I love the way you try to move away from what is considered normal in the hobby. As soon as I saw what you had done I realised that this is what I have been looking for to paint in an animation style and I bought some in the UK before I finished writing this. 24 colours and 3 brushes for £22.09 (about 37 Canadian) and my Relic Knight minis should get the paint job they deserve plus I think they will be excellent on the Amusement Park Scenery I am planning for a home brew Sccoby Doo game (I'll send you a copy if it plays OK, minis are STL's from Black Site Studios). Much love and respect from the UK, keep up the good work.
Nice video as always! I'll probably start experimenting with water-mixable oils very soon, the new Schmincke Norma Blue line is completely non-toxic. Wonder how washes and just plain oil painting with it will work.
Oil paint mentioned: you have my attention
Hmmm... Some interesting experiments, I'm just wondering if it can really mimick an oil wash, since one advantage of an oil wash is the massive reduction of surface tension and hence the better flow. I can't really tell from the video if these paints can achieve these properties. My first guess would be no, since there is still water involved, but I'd gladly be proven wrong.
I use it like people use streaking grime. Smother the model and clean it up with water instead of mineral spirits. Then varnish and do whatever you want after. I haven't had much luck with it as a pin wash could probably add things like a drop of dish soap to break tension like home made washes.
I have been curious about using gouache paints on miniatures, but I'm not sure I'd use Jelly gouache for that. The texture is just goopy, and the pigment density is quite low. But I also already have a jelly gouache set... sooooo I might just try it anyways. ;)
I'm not gonna like this one doesn't work well.
But hey the experimenting is definitely worth while
The jelly gouaches seem to have several uses when paired with other materials for different paint techniques. I use the standard gouache paints from liquitex for miniature painting currently and have really enjoyed my expereinces and progress with them. I love the pigments used in them as they provide some very vibrant finishes
Now I'm very curious about using it on terrain, or as oil washes for elementary schoolers in my family 🤔
So, does this product have any advantage over just using tubed watercolors?
Have you tried water soluble oils? Would love to hear your thoughts on them.
Goauche wash sounds fun
Dana you taught me that gouache is pronounced gouache and not like gauche, which is how I feel now
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
You could also explore Turner Acrylic Guoache!
Just curious but how did the gouache dry? Like was there any noticeable texture which formed on the model? The video has got examples where you apply the gouache rather thickly, so I'm curious how that affects things
I have been wondering if i could use some of my art stuff on minis but I am not brave enough XD
F O R B I D D E N N U G G E T S A U C E
(technically its non-toxic... so....)
absolutely disconcerting to me how enticing a mouthfeel these project in high quality footage
interesting though! and fun to say out loud
mmm, multi colored dipping sauces:)
fascinating!
Today I learned that gouache is pronounced gwosh. Thanks, Dana.
"Gou" as in "Goo"
"Auche" as in "Gosh"
@@DanaHowl ok, so goo-osh? 👌🏼
I noticed on the third technique (watercolor and acrylic) that the figure was a solid white prime. Have you tried the same technique over a zenithal prime? Just curious as to what that might do.
I was right! Gwash wash!
Am I the only one who's never heard of gouache? 😆
It's not generally as well known as water color. Gouache used to be kind of a dirty word in the mainstream art world for a long time. Reason being that the opacifier used was lead oxide. That's nothing special on its own but in this particular use case, it would cause a painting to blacken with age. Now that we have titanium dioxide, it's not a problem anymore. It just takes time to overcome that sort of cultural inertia.
What’s a guoache? Is that explained?
Gouache is basically watercolours that are pre-mixed with water to create a thick, gooey consistency as opposed to being packed into a hard block.
They tend to be dramatically higher in opacity and pigment density than typical watercolours.
Acrylic gouache paints are named for their opacity and consistency being similar to regular gouache, but the acrylic medium dries and cures like other paints whereas gouaches will never cure and will reactivate with water indefinitely unless a thin sealing coat is applied over the top to prevent contact with moisture.
Gouache paints are just less translucent watercolours. Ideally non-translucent, but that's really down to the pigments used. Nothing to do with the form they come in. Tube or brick. Both can be gouaches. As well as this jelly pudding apparently.
MMM. Forbidden nugs sauce
Dana if you start painting miniatures with guache you lose mi respect 😂.
This is basically chalk colours on water geli it's adhesion will be terrible.
Also I don't think they have pale sand on their colour range
what if I start painting with chalk?
@@DanaHowl Where is the icon with the broken heart? AHH here you are 💔
We must be both from early 80s. This wild times (quote from Bluei) I was so happy using Humbrol enamel paint looked in my room , without worrying about health.
Now I'm just not painting and waiting from my spray booth because I'm scared of spraying acrylics.
Things have changed soo much.
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i love your videos, but your nose ring is always crooked and it drives me nuts. keep up the great videos though.
I do that specifically to bother you and farm comments for engagement ;)
@@DanaHowl Oh, and it works, my friend, it works!
@@DanaHowl haha, well you got it!
still love everything you do, though!