Content Creators Are QUITTING Zenless Zone Zero? | HexJuice Reacts

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  • Zenless Zone Zero isn't for everyone, and that's okay! I still like it a lot, and I'm glad that Legionz is taking care of himself.
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  • @hexjuice
    @hexjuice  หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    1 in chat if you’re jorking ur peanits right now. 🗣️🗣️🗣️

    • @hexjuice
      @hexjuice  หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      1

    • @IronRuffnek
      @IronRuffnek หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I'm edging to reach enlightenment 😊

    • @leinad6946
      @leinad6946 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1

    • @Yewrenegade
      @Yewrenegade หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eh f it, 1

    • @LeevoBeepo
      @LeevoBeepo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1

  • @septianmhdn
    @septianmhdn หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    welp zzz is not for everyone and thats completely fine.

    • @Kittysune12
      @Kittysune12 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      no if one CC said it's suck then it's suck deserve to EOS soon

    • @septianmhdn
      @septianmhdn หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kittysune12 wtf? you live based on others opinion mate? well sucks to be you lmao

    • @abhiss6705
      @abhiss6705 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@Kittysune12wow who hurt you

    • @septianmhdn
      @septianmhdn หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@abhiss6705 ikr, whats wrong with that kid?

    • @Destined2BeKing
      @Destined2BeKing หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Kittysune12Tell em, this one CC is the only correct opinion and the game will fail since he doesn’t like it. They should really EOS this game since they aren’t worthy of the attention of HIM.

  • @LostWallet
    @LostWallet หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    honestly, ZZZ is a game that can easily burned out from. if you play it casually, everything is fine, but if you play it like a "main game", you burn out in a week

    • @heibk201dtb
      @heibk201dtb หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      this is a very content creator problem

    • @catoblepas8697
      @catoblepas8697 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      agree 100% , the game is made to be a secondary game, even the devs said

    • @2k3d
      @2k3d หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. I only play a bit of it everyday and its fine so far.

  • @grymns
    @grymns หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Everytime i try to log in, i remember i still have a tv quest i haven't done and decided not to

  • @ragnarphillips1957
    @ragnarphillips1957 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    They must not be fighting game players they couldn't goober cancel enough

  • @OldManInternet
    @OldManInternet หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    If I had to guess, a big reason there's less engagement in gacha content is because there have been a LOT of really good game releases this year. Just for stuff I like, GBF Relink, WuWa, Elden Ring DLC, and PoE were all major releases that have pummeled my free time. Not to mention things like Dragon's Dogma 2, Helldivers, and Ghosts of Tsushima's PC port that I never played. I think gacha games are at their best when there's not a lot of big game releases popping off, and people are just looking for something easy to fill the time while they wait for their next big game.

    • @John-ss2co
      @John-ss2co หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And covid effect is real.
      Genshin was released during golden, no, a brilliant momentum where everyone stuck inside their home, and at the same time being the first open world anime gacha game ever released, meaning no competition. Which makes genshin internet engagement skyrocketed.
      I'm sure no gacha game can replicate genshin achievement due to that two reasons. Unless you want another pandemic outbreak.

    • @LUCAS420BLZ
      @LUCAS420BLZ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Regarding content creation sure but other than that these games are doing well especially when they put more effort in them compared to other gachas which a low bar

    • @tris1591
      @tris1591 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blackmith Wukong too.

    • @redking9522
      @redking9522 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that's the normal way of thinking. And these games should be used to pass the time, but more and more people seem to be controlled by the games, even becoming fanatical like some cult members.

    • @a_normal_player1800
      @a_normal_player1800 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@redking9522 and the cult is still spreading

  • @bloodmay
    @bloodmay หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    14:40 The thing is, that wouldn't be a problem if parry button was separate from the swap button; why should I force myself not to parry when the parry window is up? Parrying feels great and helps the flow of the otherwise mediocre combat. If I have to actively avoid parrying with certain characters just because they decided to merge 2 buttons into one, then it's shit design, because it makes the combat flow feel worse.

  • @HazardTone
    @HazardTone หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    I understand TecTwo at least he is not making a drama out of it. Like how these Hoyo CC's making it a drama to farm views

    • @ThomasAndy-qu8dp
      @ThomasAndy-qu8dp หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i feel like drama is their only way to make views though. and if that's the case, it's the viewers who are to blame to wanting that.

    • @Rat_Fบcker
      @Rat_Fบcker หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ThomasAndy-qu8dpi mean what content are you gonna get out of gacha game after a few hour of patch story you just stuck with doing dailies even warframe have something better for content creator

    • @thebenis3219
      @thebenis3219 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ThomasAndy-qu8dp Honestly it's why I stopped watching most of them LOL. Nothing was ever really game related and just drama, drama, drama...
      So I guess I'm part of the viewership down squad xD

    • @RageGS
      @RageGS หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      TecTwo 😭

    • @dragjamon
      @dragjamon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TECTWO LMAOOOO

  • @thePHOSGD
    @thePHOSGD หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Everyone had their preferences and that's okay. I do enjoy the animation and the style of ZZZ, the voice acting is good too. But I can't play it long enough because I get bored pretty fast because of TV's
    If you guys enjoyed it good for you then, it's just mean the game is not for me. Enjoy your game, peace

  • @Marc-rw3dd
    @Marc-rw3dd หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    i think that parry problem hurts the game a lot. the tutorial presents the parry switch as something that you are incentivised to do a lot, but that doesn't mean you have to do it every time. obviously higher level players will know that it's not optimal, but that's just gonna make the damage sponge bosses so much harder for casual players.
    I know you said that the ballet twins boss stall, but that's like the only fun boss in the game.

    • @davidschulz2636
      @davidschulz2636 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the word casual player in todays standards honestly only means id1ots who don't even bother reading what the game tells them, why bother with that?

  • @PolPingo
    @PolPingo หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This guy made me understand one thing about ZZZ Tv that goes against every CC that said " Oh but the Tv gets better after 20 hours". Even if it gets better, if so many people dislike this core mechanic of the game, why keep playing? This will likely stick for years, if after 1 month I already hate it, why should I keep suffering with this? It makes no sense, gatcha gamble mentality i guess

    • @FocalResonance-1997
      @FocalResonance-1997 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ZZZ fanbase with stockholm syndrome loves the TV crap.

    • @davidschulz2636
      @davidschulz2636 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah and the same people that hate the tv bit enjoy 90% dialogue and 10% combat in genshin, they hate the fact you actually have to play the game instead of pressing through hours of dialogue for extra primos or putting autoplay in hsr, why even game if they hate actual gaming lmao

    • @damianxi4133
      @damianxi4133 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@davidschulz2636 genshin dialogue is full of bloat. I hate tv and hate genshin dialogue and wish for a skip button, especially when paimon is in it.

  • @kaimomokai7329
    @kaimomokai7329 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I also like how he brought up ZZZ without bringing up other games like he quiting for Wuwa or other game. I mean he is playing Wuwa but that's not the main reason it is ZZZ itself.

  • @luxuriatr2288
    @luxuriatr2288 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    WUWA already took what people wanted its hard to compete with WUWA after it fits

  • @tezeroth4905
    @tezeroth4905 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think shes right that theres a community wide burnout for gacha games but I dont think its specifically because of the gacha. I think its because of the mobile game design that they all seem to adopt. The FOMO/retention mecanics like daily quests, daily logins, expiring battlepasses. The gacha space is quickly becoming oversaturated and at some point if new gacha games want to be successfull theyre gonna have to ditch these designs and allow players to hop in and out without FOMO. The more gacha games they compete for players time the less theyre gonna get as more and more release and players only have so many hours in a day to play.

    • @davidschulz2636
      @davidschulz2636 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my man gachas were never meant to be fun, but for people to dump money on hot waifus that's a known fact people either embrace that or stop playing if they came to have an actual game just move to elden ring or something. how are people still not understanding this? lmao the FOMO and story bits each update are purpose fully made that way to drag out the livelyhood of the game to make more money from banners. my point is you will never see gachas moving away from these mechanics because without them gachas wouldnt work as good as they do.

    • @tezeroth4905
      @tezeroth4905 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidschulz2636 youre probably right I just think that the upcoming gacha games need to change the formula and stop trying to copy the Genshin model because I dont think it will work again.

    • @davidschulz2636
      @davidschulz2636 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tezeroth4905 that's why hoyo raises energy cap in their games without actually doing anything the 240 cap changed nothing other than people having to login only once a day instead of twice while the energy gain stays the same, sad but so many people buy into that crap and think hoyo listens to them lol

  • @bunnysenpai8942
    @bunnysenpai8942 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Personally, been playing differing gachas. The main duo, Wuwa and Nikke. The side gachas who may or may not join the duo, Blue Archive, PGR, Arknights, and Snowbreak.
    Then the game who's Anni is up, Guardian tales. It's about diversifying yourself, and try not to suck everything out unless you either will need it, or want to do it.
    It also helps resist wallet temptations. All in all, dedicating yourself to one game was never going to have the best results, unless you don't have a lot of free time or want to use said free time on these games.

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely peak gacha game choices

  • @lonewolfjedi493osswfan
    @lonewolfjedi493osswfan หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I find the content Legionz puts out very entertaining and I’m glad he’s made this decision, one of the things I always tell people is your own personal health comes first

  • @kitseyer9124
    @kitseyer9124 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    ZZZ Im at interknot30(F2P), have decent charactersc elen c0s1 shark bangboos, soldier11 c0s1 her bangboos etc..... Very lucky in my pulls
    but gyat damn. I dont have any motivation to play the game. I open the game STARE at the screen then shut it off..
    Sorry me english no good.😅

  • @Detton30
    @Detton30 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Man this guy is burning the candle at both ends, using matches to burn it at the middle, and then dipping it in lava to burn it even more.
    I'm happy to see him taking a measured approach and consideration to his own mental health. Kudos for that!

  • @thedendengaming
    @thedendengaming หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Parry is one of the satisfying game mechanics and they locked it on character swap. You don't wanna swap character? just don't parry. That is shit logic. hahahaha

  • @rubyfate
    @rubyfate หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    FG3000, used to watch him alongside volkin's variety gacha channel... I used to play a lot of different mobile games... Right now my taste in games must've have peaked or something, I don't wanna play other stuff that much anymore, I'm satisfied with wuwa, star rail etc... Plus growing older meana getting busier...

  • @MauveButterfly
    @MauveButterfly หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Legionz talking about how he played the betas too much and didn't want to play through the content again once ZZZ released made me wonder about the people I see posting things like "I finished everything there was to do in Genshin Impact so I started another account." Running multiple accounts of any gacha game seems pretty exhausting to me, unless you're doing some kind of time-limited gimmick account where you don't care about clearing all the content. I don't even really see the appeal of having a paid account and a second free to play account.

  • @ManuXnanu
    @ManuXnanu หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well tbh gacha CCs got a hard time if the Game they cover got no content to use for entertainment.
    Covering live service games just gets exhausting.

  • @Summershare
    @Summershare หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is the norm, we tried to give it a fair shot but me and my friends already quit too. We tried for a week because people said its going to be better.

  • @IDestroyStuff
    @IDestroyStuff หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I honestly think the open world model of these games, even with Wuthering Waves, having this mostly empty open world with shallow puzzles and hundreds of shit to collect. Pointless tedium in in collecting misc plants around the world, and having 85% of the available pull currency locked behind the checklist-esq exploration is a bit played out. Don't get me wrong, I like WuWa and I'm on maintenance mode for Genshin, but I really hope devs don't continue copying this same style with no improvements.

  • @DeathlyArrows
    @DeathlyArrows หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:20 this says it all ... i played the beta for 90 hours and now i have to do it all over again ... thats why i never play betas becaus you gotta redo everything and if the beta you got the perfect stuff and in the full game you dont you will feel like shit and dont wanna play anymore.... and thats a fact

  • @tannhan3369
    @tannhan3369 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The only thing that keep me playing ZZZ is 2 monthly packs i bought (by mistake) .

  • @Zeref-n7u
    @Zeref-n7u หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I quit too

  • @lawfulgoodnun1646
    @lawfulgoodnun1646 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Right now i think the thing harming the games longevity is the team comps and characters role all fees the same... Eveyone just does damage damage damage...
    Eventually this will lead to insane power creep where they will release a support/defense/stun character that does more damage than a dps character.

    • @ImproperStandby
      @ImproperStandby หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      We will get a Firefly equivalent in ZZZ, I'm betting on it and it will creep over everything.

    • @ManuXnanu
      @ManuXnanu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You at least need to try to understand Teams/roles otherwise the feeling will be the same in all games

    • @aoikazuma3781
      @aoikazuma3781 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i can't even play Ellen without soukaku for it to not lose 50% damage boost, it's like soft lock to a certain character because of the "synergy" well i can play without synergy but let's be real, the game is just damage check most of the time

  • @thebenis3219
    @thebenis3219 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hex, honestly I'm really glad to have you in the sphere because it's honestly refreshing (mentally) to have someone who's supportive and positive with a voice around here. Life's definitely rough on everyone and seeing your response to his video makes me happy. Keep being awesome chica!

  • @CamronSaltado
    @CamronSaltado หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I will say that not all gacha stories are the yappening.
    Sitting here on nikke waiting for story updates because I blow through them in like an hour or two. Hooked by cliff hangers.
    Dragalia lost (rip) same deal.

    • @Destined2BeKing
      @Destined2BeKing หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dragalia lost was peak ngl, I still miss it

  • @gimmickpuppet2181
    @gimmickpuppet2181 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    already uninstalled ZZZ...im just staying in hsr and wuwa

  • @teamalice115
    @teamalice115 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like that’s a problem a lot of content creators have where they’re focused more on the Contant than if they’re even enjoying themselves doing the content and to me if I was going to be a TH-camr, I’m only gonna play games. I wanna play. I’m only gonna cover stuff I wanna cover cause if I’m not having fun at the end of the day if I’m not enjoying, this career that gives me so many options and so many ways to make money then what’s the point then it’s just any other day job. I agree with it as easy as if you don’t enjoy a game stop playing it and don’t make content for it.

  • @ThomasAndy-qu8dp
    @ThomasAndy-qu8dp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I completely agree with him on Ellen personaly.
    I didn't like her gameplay at all. I found Soldier 11(the one i got from the guarantee drop) was a lot funnier because of her gimmick.
    But this is MY preference.

  • @faptaincabulous2557
    @faptaincabulous2557 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He almost cooked until he said parry with that ellen stuff, I feel what he was saying but instead of parrying, it's as soon as I hit they want me to chain to another character and half the time I just wait for it to time out so I can carry on dealing DAMAGE with my DAMAGE character

  • @puggersftw
    @puggersftw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think I have the same opinion as him, I love the characters, the voice acting, but I just can't love it. And I think that's okay, it's a good game, just not for me.

  • @codyjames6040
    @codyjames6040 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Have you heard of dodging?
    Seems like he's never seen dodgeball.

  • @wira572
    @wira572 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i start playing HSR when 1.5 came out and i got stuck because of the level gate just like you said. even though i know that it is normal in gacha game, i feel a little bit frustated because my progression are very limited by the energy available everyday in the game so i stop playing it. on top of that, the game being turn based make it feel boring very quickly especially if i keep playing the same roster because of the limited amount of summoned character. it's regrettable becaues i enjoy the content a lot.

  • @MTH062K.O
    @MTH062K.O หลายเดือนก่อน

    It reminds me on Xenoblade Chronicles 2 where you have to grind for hours to unlock swimsuit each characters,clearing out all the blades affinity charts while working as a painter (40 hours a week with lack of sleep with no alternatives)and it just sucks and it mentally ruined me.And now when I hear this,it worries me so much that I ended up watching let’s plays or livestreams.(sry for my English)

  • @LUCAS420BLZ
    @LUCAS420BLZ หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gacha creator space turned away from community guides to Al-Qaeda

  • @louisaguila2905
    @louisaguila2905 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    26:08 I think i this is why Project Mugen probably wont come out anytime soon. Think about it. If theres too many "genshin" like games being produced, then players will get easily burned out. Then they wont give Project Mugen a shot. If the developers knows this, then i dont think its worth making a game like project mugen if its destined to fail, the project itself will most likely being scrapped because is being overshadowed by other action open world gacha games. Hopefully im wrong, but we will see.

  • @LegionzGaming91
    @LegionzGaming91 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Type 1 if you jorking it right now chat

  • @BlueBluez
    @BlueBluez หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I like the style and look of ZZZ and Grace is hot but would never play it cause it looks annoying to even play, The TV stuff made me go "No thanks" lol

    • @ThomasAndy-qu8dp
      @ThomasAndy-qu8dp หลายเดือนก่อน

      i like the gameplay, but getting to the good part is a chore. It's not normal.

  • @michaelmachado9680
    @michaelmachado9680 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    TV Simulator 😴

  • @kaimomokai7329
    @kaimomokai7329 หลายเดือนก่อน

    he sounded like Tectone but without losing sanity.

  • @バユ-バユ
    @バユ-バユ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this game make me ptsd to play it.
    the loading screen, ah i cant..

  • @isidroduarte8942
    @isidroduarte8942 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I too work doubles and do other stuff. My Gacha time is limited to 20-30 minutes a day now. Love them but I’m not sacrificing my sleep anymore lol.

  • @Ahloveyafuhso
    @Ahloveyafuhso หลายเดือนก่อน

    This burn out thing is understandable but honestly speaking if you have low attention span and always looking for the next best thing. .that's something you personally need to work on... and well don't be so quick to jump to the next game... like...it's definitely a 50/50 left and right situation especially when you trying to burn content.

  • @BrianCarreraShaw
    @BrianCarreraShaw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Back in the day, in Tekken Tag you can either:
    - use King, or Yoshimitsu that requires a certain method to play
    - use Eddy Gordo or Xiaoyu and mash the button (and look cool in the process) to your hearts content.. and make your sophisticated gamer friend who uses King hate on you.
    Does it make Tekken a bad game?
    No. This should be applied to all games. We play games for the fun factor. Simple as that.

  • @Comfy_Fox
    @Comfy_Fox หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Annoying thing about ZZZ for me is the loading screens + T.Vs

  • @argonaut8490
    @argonaut8490 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    From all the rants and CCs quiting that ive seen, i can say that for one reason or another only focusing on one game really damages a channel long term. Whether thats burnout, the game is out of popularity/ End of service, or anything else. You're essentially putting all your eggs in one basket.

    • @manuelcavallo1393
      @manuelcavallo1393 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pokke's channel died due to him refusing to stay on one game (and not knowing how to speak English properly)

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@manuelcavallo1393 I think you meant that his views got down, not that his channel died. His channel is doing ok but people are saturated of drama.

    • @manuelcavallo1393
      @manuelcavallo1393 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gheniel_ I mean saying his channel is doing ok isn't how id put it, his views are plummeting, but yeah. Not dead, yet at least

  • @Luke27WT
    @Luke27WT หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will compare my hsr and zzz launch experience:
    i didn't know about hsr until one youtube video already after release. i came to hsr like 1 week before seele's banner ended, and i finished all i could in 2 days straight. I am playing it now, i play every activity, every challenge, i pay money (dolphin style) and i like this game, its story (it's not great, just interesting), its style and characters. I will play it in the future.
    In comparison, i knew about zzz for like 3 months before release, i waited, and... After i got to start of belobog questline, i just stopped and still i just spend my energy and log out, thinking that i will play it later. I start to understand that most likely i won't. I probably will never have such a passion i had (and still do) for hsr.
    My personal opinion on why i don't like it that much:
    For me, TVs are just fine (i don't understand why they receive so much hate), it's just SU but like 20-30% worse, so it's not the case. Yes, they feel worse than SU, but not terrible.
    the thing is the battle system: it's just LMB spam plus some E and space/RMB. Maybe it's just me, but i don't enjoy it, just like genshin battle system. Maybe character swapping influences too.
    I absolutely love the style and the characters, and if it was a game-in-game inside hsr, or just hsr with this style, lore and characters, i would love it.
    Also, there is a strange thing i noticed: resources in zzz look strange for me even after all this time, i don't know why. In hsr i didn't have any problems, even when it was my first gacha game.
    There may also be a problem with interface, it's somehow uncomfortable for me. That may be personal thing.
    (oh god, I didn't even notice writing an essay😂)

  • @skyMcWeeds
    @skyMcWeeds หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate the TVs but pulled Grace and Zhu Yuan now I am stuck between Booba and Cake. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheCompany95
    @TheCompany95 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the criticism about story representation is fair. Lots of gacha story are being treated more like a Visual Novel. In mine opinion, i think people just want a more active role in the story rather than reading text. Game need difficulty and action to be a game rather than just being story novel.
    The 1 thing i can feel the different from Wuwa is they sell you more the feeling of you being pro-active in the story. I still say Rover as a character is boring if not for the lore of 1.1.
    I would want Kuro to give Rover more of a character and give u the sense of role playing a cool character than being a constant blank slate with minimum dialog option for flavor like Genshina and Star Rail. A very Succesful version of such character is FGO Fujimaru where they build up your main character through lots of interaction with Mashu which translate very well into multiple Anime.

  • @arquidex2034
    @arquidex2034 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We have... 3 games like genshin and one is genshin

  • @media1981
    @media1981 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love every juice coming out of your mouth. 100% agreed.

  • @mismismism
    @mismismism หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's absolutely not for everyone, I'm so close to falling off myself, just doing dailies while I have free time in case it clicks with me or something changes. The TVs I really dislike and I also don't like the parry thing. I don't get why they linked parry and swap, especially with how some bosses are designed, it doesn't feel right to me either. I want to parry as often as I can, dodge is... hit or miss, no jumps or aerial combat/dodging, it just feels counter intuitive to me and kind of outdated. I don't hate the game, but I get why a lot of people don't like it.

  • @LilSlurp2
    @LilSlurp2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm still playing Zenless but I don't love the game. I'm just playing it because it's new and there's not much else to play for gacha atm (yes I've tried whatever you're about to reply with). I'm waiting for the next big gacha and then I'll happily drop Zenless

  • @Griffon14
    @Griffon14 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think pulling for every single char only worth if u are making guide
    And its enough to pull S0R1 so ppl can still relate

  • @Ganjamus
    @Ganjamus หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could the burnout be caused by the constant tribalism and drama in games people are just trying to enjoy?

    • @hexjuice
      @hexjuice  หลายเดือนก่อน

      personally i’d guess it’s for all the reasons Legionz mentioned in the video, but u can make up ur headcanon if u want!

  • @ErWeebMaster
    @ErWeebMaster หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was getting one shot by the 1st boss on stage 10. Ended up having to actual dodge to beat it or my characters would die in a couple hits.

    • @ganyumaindayone1112
      @ganyumaindayone1112 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i am at node 6 from the critical side of the defense (fully cleared the stable part) (stuck because bad elements so not enough dps
      with most characters not built (f2p and not a single bottle of resin spent yet)
      unless u're falling asleep in front of your screen, you dont get one shot by the boss lol and he is pretty easy (maybe u went in without leveling talent weapons and some disck for your main dps though)

  • @Glxrp
    @Glxrp หลายเดือนก่อน

    im against discouraging the usage of parry on ellen idk

  • @Luci-pz8xx
    @Luci-pz8xx หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doing Hollo Zero multiple times a week is so boring.

  • @riotangel4701
    @riotangel4701 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The TVs infuriate me so much. And then the new events introduce yet _even more_ TVs. I'm not spending even a cent on this game.

  • @bankaimaster999
    @bankaimaster999 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HoYo: Makes their first CASUAL game because some people complained their other games not casual enough and forces you to devote yourself to playing dailys.
    Content Creators around launch time: The game is too casual, I can't main it like the other gacha games, I cannot make long streams/videos; its different from the other Gacha and is boring.
    Their community, other Gacha and Anti-HoYo players: Yeah, not gonna waste time playing it; this game is trash, ZZZ, boring. Tell everyone!
    Also, Content Creators: it's can be fun when I casually play it. The gacha community is so toxic nowadays ...

  • @siege_sensei
    @siege_sensei หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Based Legend of heroes chad. 🤘

  • @minamo4012
    @minamo4012 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm thinking quiting zzz, I said I'll wait for the first story event but so far nothing happened... And I just lost motivation to play the game, it's mihoyo stuff all over again, just...errr...

  • @NomineName
    @NomineName หลายเดือนก่อน

    everytime i play zzz and the tv puts up with the stuttering dialogue removing my controll with the incessant yapping i get this weird feeling; what am i doing with my life, what is this system, why am i playing this game? no other game makes me feel existential dread and sparks thoughts of midlife crisis - hoyo cooked with zzz tv's

  • @RKNancy
    @RKNancy หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only reason HSR was successful because it pandered to Genshin's casual audience. ZZZ was always meant to pander to the fighting game fans from GI and HI3. Of course casual gamers are quitting ZZZ. Gacha fighting games are hell to conquer. I got burnt by HI3 once, not going through that again.

  • @namandixit1032
    @namandixit1032 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man everybody hating the game bcz of tv well me to but man the loading screen sucks so hard they should have animation instead of loading screen

  • @Clourie
    @Clourie หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doing main quest on tv is okay
    But when it comes to side mission exploration tv, omg it was horrible. The pokemon 3vs3, the detective bangoo police North quest omg, I can't, it was so bad and tons of yapping. Literally have no connection to main story just a yap fest. They 100% need to remove the tv on side mission. Using the tv mode on main mission need to be balance imo. The tv is annoying but it is something different.

  • @davidschulz2636
    @davidschulz2636 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ok who cares? literally every gacha content creator is the exact same why do people even watch that lmao

  • @brulckgui
    @brulckgui หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Let's be honest, nobody liked zzz. That's the big truth.

  • @potatopcgamer739
    @potatopcgamer739 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Almost 1 month and still dont understand what kind of skill ZZZ needs. Like how skill deficient people are to achieve ZZZ gameplay to level it as a skill base or fighting game ?

  • @Coco-gw7st
    @Coco-gw7st หลายเดือนก่อน

    hex pls post variety content on yt🙏 you are so entertaining nd i cant catch stream often but i would love to see you play some different games. like elden ring would be insane!!!

  • @kuuhakudesu
    @kuuhakudesu หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    if gacha CC's actually quit ZZZ en masse, even if it's successful, it can forget being as successful as its peers, at least here in the west. IMHO, for new live service games, specially gacha, content creation goes hand-in-hand with game popularity, which means that CC's can only grow if the game's popular enough and in turn the game can only get popular if there's enough CC's covering it. If CC's leave, then once the game is past its honeymoon phase, it'll be hard to retain players when there's so many other options in the market right now (and more incoming).

    • @Kittysune12
      @Kittysune12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so ZZZ EOS tomorrow ? since tectwo and mtashed are leaving ?

    • @dargenflame2500
      @dargenflame2500 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You overestimate those cc suckers. Most of them just used to be stay on gacha for hours while taking views and donation, with no personal entertainment (in live-service game btw). They quit? Other will come. Not popular, will not gain as much as just somebody big, but nothing really change with game in the West part. And those cc who quit? "First time?" They love drama and being toxic so they bring even more drama. Next games will come after in future and so they will change their game to what's more popular (and secretly play in "hated" game meanwhile).

  • @ohreally69
    @ohreally69 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The thing is,it was advertised as a "fun combat" game,but it took almost 6-8 hrs for the combat to be actually fun and hard,if you advertised a game for its combat,the combat should be fun from at least 1-2 hrs in the game
    Before 6 hrs,the enemies rarely did anything and it just felt like a very long buttom mash mode...the cinematics and animations are good,but thats mainly it

  • @jayrobinaspiras5756
    @jayrobinaspiras5756 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lesson learn do not play CBT zzz when it released you already burn out

  • @XANDERcanDRAW
    @XANDERcanDRAW หลายเดือนก่อน

    How dare you to have opinion different than mine?! This outrageous! I will tell HoyoDaddy! XD

  • @Nero-Z
    @Nero-Z หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like this 2nd baldman

  • @oumaokita
    @oumaokita หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If he's saying he doesn't want to play the game cos he's not having fun anymore, why add in about the views he's gettingfor the content he's making. It's as if his definition of fun is if it gets alot of views I continue if not then screw it. Could've just said about the busy with other stuff which is more understandable but bringing up views for the vids he makes doesn't really add up to me

  • @WTFJhinZhao
    @WTFJhinZhao หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "If you get stuck in hoyo end game content you wouldnt survive dark souls"
    I have a feeling this person has never played a souls game before, there are multiple ways to cheese stuff and you arent gated behind stamina/resin or behind not pulling good units, or getting rng artifacts.
    Weird ass comparison.

    • @davidschulz2636
      @davidschulz2636 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      there you have it, dark souls isn't supposed to be cheesed. the comparison makes sense if it's from an actual player lol

    • @WTFJhinZhao
      @WTFJhinZhao หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@davidschulz2636 by cheesing i mean stuff like summonings.
      Also ds isnt hard, if you know the attack patterns you cna beat it without much investment unlike hoyo games that are just a dps check with little nuance.

    • @slahser
      @slahser หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@WTFJhinZhao That's a you situation. I watched several streamers play Wuwa and I realized that a lot of them would have a hard time playing soulslike games. The reason being that they aren't really playing games like that for fun so it's understandable. You already honed the skill to cruise through these games comfortably. Majority of gamers don't.

    • @WTFJhinZhao
      @WTFJhinZhao หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slahser You can study soul's games and copy what people do to beat them, you cant do the same with gacha games, like sure you can search what gear/stats are important but you cant just copy them, you have to luck out on them, same with the characters.
      Hoyo games arent about skill so mentioning is stupid as i said.

    • @slahser
      @slahser หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@WTFJhinZhao Now you are talking about players who invest time to beat bosses in a soulslike game. That wouldn't represent the majority of gacha gamers now would it?

  • @KizMyAzz
    @KizMyAzz หลายเดือนก่อน

    well well well

  • @alexandrem798
    @alexandrem798 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it considered quitting when you never liked the game in the first place?

  • @motivateddad
    @motivateddad หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man, pushing ZZZ hate agenda as a meme is quite fun. I now understand tribalism in gacha games and fighting for your favorite billion dollar company. They were cooking.
    But I got burned out in agenda pushing. The game isn't even fun to push agendas anymore.

    • @zealgaming8161
      @zealgaming8161 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I used to mock and ridicule football hooligans, still do, but it does make me question.... Am I just like them?

  • @Lucky_Fluffy
    @Lucky_Fluffy หลายเดือนก่อน

    if they do what i'm thinking they are gunna do with 1.1 where the TVs are basically removed and replaced with Open Instanced area's like HI3rd there will probably be a influx of players who quit because of the TVs will come back. Also yea theres a Dodge, which you can use if you don't want to Switch characters, and i will admit only after a certain point did i actually feel like i was struggling. I am a low spender, Monthly Gem Pass, and battle Pass, so typically 15$ a month/Per patch so watching F2P creators feels more relatable.

  • @renyoudie
    @renyoudie หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big 1 in chat

  • @CyanColor
    @CyanColor หลายเดือนก่อน

    This aint a slide or anything i just genuinely want to know if this was a slip up or something but in this video this guys opinion is counted as an opinion but in the valk video recently where the dude talked about liking zzz was treated as an argument when it was the person's opinion. Just curious if this was a slip or not.

  • @Kyle81290
    @Kyle81290 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dark Souls was a mistake

  • @DarkScay
    @DarkScay หลายเดือนก่อน

    NTE by tencent 🤣🤣🤣🤣 dead

  • @Draighean
    @Draighean หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think ZZZ is for the younger genZ and Alpha crowd. Attention deficit low-effort low risk game. I really need either adrenaline or a damn good story to enjoy a game.

  • @veliona8920
    @veliona8920 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "If you get stuck in hoyo end game content you wouldn't survive dark souls"
    This dude would 100% get filtered by Nirvana Abyss in HI3, I feel like if you're going to make sweeping statements about endgame in Hoyoverse games and you haven't done endgame in the one hoyoverse game that has the hardest endgame, well, don't expect too many people to take you seriously. Also, can we please stop acting like soulslike games are somehow the pinnacle of difficulty.

  • @maymeoo21
    @maymeoo21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like all ZZZ characters have repetitve flashy animations maybe new pubsec ones.... in comparison to hsr 2.4
    I hope more challenging bosses in next patches won't be hp sponge and attack once in a blue moon

    • @xxxfortnite_master2012
      @xxxfortnite_master2012 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ZZZ combat animation is better than WuWa

    • @Kirraii
      @Kirraii หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@xxxfortnite_master2012 objectively incorrect, having more flash bangs does not mean the animation is better in combat lmao

    • @Kramer8
      @Kramer8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kirraii that guy is troll.

    • @Kirraii
      @Kirraii หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kramer8 most zzz people are i was just saying bros wrong lmaooo

  • @Bitterchoccy
    @Bitterchoccy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    can people stop making videos about games they hate lmao

  • @RageGS
    @RageGS หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm starting to just mute out any opinions people have on gacha games when they compare it to Dark Souls lmao like gacha difficulty is baby difficulty cause it's got limiting resources

  • @trafalgarlaw363
    @trafalgarlaw363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I kid you not with these gacha firefly youtubers and their two week living cycles. And people say shit about the tiktok kids' short attention span.

  • @HazardTone
    @HazardTone หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1

  • @pocalipse3408
    @pocalipse3408 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love zendless, the characters, the lore, the art, everything, I am a veteran souls player and I love this game, genshin never made that click for me but this game, I just love it

  • @usscolumbia6149
    @usscolumbia6149 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I think he makes a lot of great points in his video a d I mostly agree with all of his takes. But complaining about how the story is told in star rail while praising other JRPGs is kinda crazy. I would say at least 90% of all the jrpgs I've played have as much if not even more yapping.

  • @citizenspaghetti
    @citizenspaghetti หลายเดือนก่อน

    I might be one of the few who likes the TV bit. I'd rather more of them be puzzles instead of just moving from point A to B.
    I do agree some of them are too long they need to cut down on all pointless animations of stuff as you move through it. I get that it's flashy, but it is flashy junk designed to keep you logged into the game.

  • @Shindy117
    @Shindy117 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My biggest problem with legion is something he said: "i only play wuthering waves for content and that its a gacha game". I am not sure why but i cant rationalize why that statement bothered me. I unsubscribed and blocked legion. Also his takes in his drama with tectone was the final straw. Also his EN Va takes piss me off