Even more so: look at his excitement at loot. In the previous vids he was excited at greens, GREENS ffs!!. When was the last time anyone was excited over an epic let alone blues or greens.
Too bad the gameplay is still pretty damn lacking. He got some ways to go before he can really make them vanilla guides but I do appreciate his confidence
@ You would have to be a full on crack head if you think vanilla isn't any different outside of QOL changes, pretty sure you would need a scroll to list the differences... and a longer list to write down all the subs have dropped since those QOL changes :)
@Not Drunk James It is a threat to the modern game. Go in to trade chat right now and ask how many people are just playing while waiting for classic. In my experience the number of people that would answer yes to that is quite high.
@Not Drunk James The majority of classic WOW players will come from the current WOW player base. Once you are the other side of letting go of your wow account it is a stark realization of how bad the the whole experience actually is too your well being. 'Wow killers' have mostly failed because they cannot match the 'investment' players put into their Wow accounts. If classic Wow can pull players away from their modern Wow accounts, they will find it much easier to let go of classic later* We'll see. *That being said, if Blizzard pulled off a full rewind and long time players started the journey all over again, that would be quite spectacular, scary but nonetheless amazing.
@Not Drunk James Account is very different to the must login effect. Folk aren't addicted to the account, they are addicted to 'their' heroes. It takes not logging into that to get the epiphany I also don't believe for a minute that classic Wow couldn't or wouldn't change its model if they see data showing the playerbase moving to classic.
I'm looking forward to Classic pouring plenty of subscription money into WoW. All I care about is people paying their subscriptions so Blizzard can continue to develop WoW. Classic servers, WoW expansions, I don't care.
When I started vanilla I was shit, then I randomly met a druid who became my friend, she taught me how to tank and tested me by pulling extra mobs when I least expected to see how I coped with it. Still friends to this day, but one of the best things she taught me about foresight as a tank was if you needed to use taunt, you'd failed at tanking (unless it was a specific mechanic that needed you to taunt). The idea being if I needed to use taunt I hadn't been paying attention or keeping myself prepared for the unexpected. I ended up being main tank for my guild and raided all the way to naxx 40, so I'm always grateful for her turning me from a shit tank into a good one who was able to help push the guild forward in raids. It felt great!
Mate I feel the same way. I was 15 when I got hooked back in classic and I am getting the same urges to play I did back then 15 years later. I am dying to get into the deadmines, wipe in gnomeregan and corpse run for 10 minutes, and kite drakki in ubrs.
“Anyone down for RFC? I have all the quests if they can be shared” “I’m down for RFC :)” 8:00 I bet you these two guys are still questing and dungeoning together, this is perfect.
The true power of hybrids in Classic. They may get pigeonholed in endgame, but I tanked, healed, and dpsed my way through most content on private servers as a Shaman... all at once. You literally do EVERYTHING.
classic WoW was made by real nerds. while the technocrat nerds of silicon valley were scheming their evil schemes, the uber nerds at blizzard crafted us the greatest game ever. it is going down in history as the next pong, mario, pacman, etc. Blizzard were FOOLs to change the original philosophy.
yeah but a lot has changed since then since 2006 a lot of BLizzard's core team working on WOW ( and Diablo) left Blizzard, Some of them formed Runic games and made League of Legends, etc.
The thing I missed the most about the old days is that chill dungeon group vibe. Nowdays every dungeon has to be rushed thanks to the m+ system and don't get me wrong that is fun too but imho I prefer the old playstile so much more.
Even in Vanilla you could Faceroll Dungeons. All you need is a Fury-Warrior Tank or Amrs-Warrior tank and faceroll the Content with an Shamane for Windfury. But if you can do that that means you got at least AQ Gear and at this Point you just wanna show of your gear :D
@@yokaicomplex9066 You mean dungeons now are Mindless Geargrind just like in Diablo if you do crypt runs for Mindless Geargrind. WoW is jsut a Diablo with Multiplayer elements.
@@_TG No shouldn't be those are different MMO-Aspekts. If you keep Facerolling its more a Hack'n Slash gameplay and has nothing to do with an MMO. All you do is just spaming the Buttons. Classic needs a little bit more of Strategies becasue Tanking is not as easy as it is and seems. Enemy can Dodge and Parry attacks which degreeses your Threat and some Hyper-DPS like Mages can only go Single-Target and not AoE everything down in seconds. Vanilla Dungeons are way different and way different design compared to M+ and it started by Low HP Mobs pulling different Mobs and Enemy who can fear you can fear you into different Mobs. Besides that M+ is pure Cancer and shouldn't be in a MMO besides it gives Flasks only or enchants but no gear. Gear should be only available if you raid. No time for raiding? Sucks for you
I've been watching you for a couple of years now mate, and the way you are about this video is 100% different than the others (for years!). You literally seem to enjoy what is happening and you are a different person. Because of that, you make us feel the same joy about the game as you do. Thank you for posting this. Honestly you have always posted amazing content, but the voice you have in this video; everyone can hear that you're truly enjoying what you're doing VS "I have to because I need a TH-cam video". Keep it up mate.
@Preach Gaming Shield slam actually does a huge amount of threat in an attack, it's just usually not worth using it until you have a pretty good block value. But far as I can tell, with more recent math and understanding of how threat and such works, deep prot is the way to go as a full time tank, with some in arms and fury. Also, Battle Shout generates threat on enemies for each party member buffed by it, so weaving it into your rotation in groups of mobs is a good habit to get into. Edited: Corrected shield slam's usage
As someone with no interest in trying Classic myself, I'm really interested in hearing your views of Classic after level 30. Most notably, do you think this enjoyment would continue long term? As you've said before, the core gameplay itself is not particularly good, but you seem to have found your joy in the older style of tanking specifically. Do you think that will be enough to carry you through some of the more tedious aspects of the game? Do you think you would be enjoying yourself in any other role where you don't have that factor of tank management to keep the combat more involved for you? Most content creators that are hyping up Classic at the moment don't seem to really have a good explanation for their fondness of it, it generally comes off as just enjoying experiencing the game in such a different way, but I feel your perspective could have a lot more insight into what is actually enjoyable about it.
I think it stays enjoyable because the leveling experience from 30 to 45 is great and its when you get deep enough in your talent trees to feel specialized and you start unlocking strong abilities.
Not usually that into TDP, but I found this one really interesting. Didn’t even play classic back in the day, just really fun to watch. Great video Preach.
One hundred percent agree on the tanking minigame and "keeping things moving". Watching your threat on each mob, evaluating the next pack, marking CC targets if necessary, checking your healer's mana to see if you can continue chaining or need to take a break (which you can only do after monitoring them for the first 10 minutes to see how efficiently they use their mana in the first place). The hyper-awareness of so many moving parts allows a TRULY talented tank will single handedly craft a satisfying dungeon experience front to back, and is one of my favorite parts of the game to play as well. P.S. Nice to see you picked up the Wing Blade. You not being on the Leaders of the Fang quest in WC made me cry XD
Great video, great tanking! It's nice to see another tank who thinks and tanks exactly the same as I do (or at least did in Vanilla WoW) These days it's too easy. I actually stopped playing WoW after reaching max level in BFA as the game lost it's personality. I played Wow at launch and no game has ever come close to the feeling I had while running around in Coldridge Valley and Kharanos on my Dwarf Warrior, finally progressing to Loch Modan and seeing another player riding on the back of a Ram mount which blew my mind. I cannot wait for this game. I will keep watching your videos with great interest. Thank you
This guy is the embodiment of a great tank. Observing everything even if you don't need to, ultimately becoming a great leader aswell. That's why main tanks were very often the raidleaders back then and also my raidleader. Been watching you since early cata, you didn't loose your stride at all sir. Big respect.
It's lovely to see preach enjoy this so much. He always was like: "why would I go back and play something I already did?" While I was there in the bushes grinning, just you wait sir, just you wait. 😁
Your description of the way that you prioritize the mobs you are tanking is exactly why I loved it back in the day, before everyone had an AOE threat spammer. Having to actually think about how to use your resource to most effectively maintain your threat was an amazing game to play.
dude you make my heart so happy just watching the way you tank :) tanking used to be an art, and i do appreciate watching you show off your art. thank you for showing this to us, preach.
"I'm playing a different game! This is not World of Warcraft" Lol love the videos preach keep it up! You're awesome and your videos make me smile every day!
Well explained Mike, i haven't heard anyone else nail it quite like this. explaining just how far the game has gotten from the original game we all loved, patch by patch, xpac by xpac it has slowly inched further and further from what we had.
Preach: Horde Warrior. tanking, having fun, explaining the mindset of a classic wow tank, passes on loot. Asmongoloid: Alliance Warrior. tanking, telling everyone he's the fuckin best at tanking, disregards healing contribution, master loots everything. need i say more?
Yea... you should mention that you clearly *aren't* watching Asmongold's entire streams...as he's lost the best gear numerous times to both Esfand and McConnell... and done so quite vocally (as he is known for doing). As a fan of his channel from the very beginning I can also say how obvious it is that he is catering to a MUCH younger audience than his fellow streamers. Essentially playing a tongue-in-cheek style of game, to garner extra levels of enjoyment from players who haven't MASTERED the entire game 15 years ago, and who are interested in minutia other streamers are "above" sheerly by virtue of their streams age groups. Asmongold has spoken time and time again that his average viewer is between 12-16yrs old... with only about 10-15% of his audience falling in the 20-30yrs age gap that WE represent. Nice try on the virtue signally though... hope that works out.
@@conanmcclanahan1069 So sorry to have insulted your idol. I would never have thought Asmongoloid had such an impact on anyone, not that i really care, not that i was actually referring to the player stereotype on either faction, not that i was actually having a good fanny ha ha joke, guess i better show my love and affection to Azmongoloid and give him all my wow gold like everyone else so he can show off how cool he is having the most expensive mount in retail. Thanks for showing me the way by signalling me towards the one true honest player in wow
Good observation. Yeah, in old school wow getting a 1.8 speed sword or thereabouts is a big deal for tanking. You don't want some 2.6 speed mace, as it'll inhibit your rage generation from auto attacks. Every little bit counts. source: prot war in vanilla; haven't tanked since lol.
It is SO good to see this, the fact that he haven't given BfA one inch of a thought because he is entertained with and OLDER version of the game HAS to tell Blizz something, and as Ion said in one of the recent interviews "There is definitely some lessons to be learned" which is good to hear, and I am soo into these video's where Preach teach's HOW to do it almost deep diving, cus I have also wanted to tank in Classic but always been scared to do so, Thank you @Preach Gaming
@@AdrasAdraki Haha Asmon is funny though, screaming at people to CC an add, then he stands with the one he is tanking just beside the CC'ed mob and uses cleave, breaking CC. Then continutes to scream for CC and calling them names :P
Dude, "Deep Prot" is the shit. I used to do it all the time, not only do you make yourself basically invulnerable, you're also a stun machine. When you're almost at 50% chance to stun on EVERY REVENGE? You are constantly stunning targets. Also, the rage generation with level 5 Shield specialization is sick because it's every time you block. Shield slam does a shitload of damage, because everyone misses the part about "Modified by your shield block value". So you're a blocking/threat/stun machine that's basically invulnerable. Takes a ton of heat off the healers.
I was already excited to tank in classic again. You just got me SO pumped. It's been forever since I've spun plates like that. This video basically retaught me to do it and gave me extra tips. You never really followed up on your claim that wrath killed tanking.
Man Preach, this is the video I needed today. Working my Sunday shift, all I kept thinking about was whether or not I wanted to roll myself a warrior in Classic. Seeing these pulls sold me on going prot again. Thanks mate.
I have been watching a lot of videos and twitch stream archives (uploaded on youtube of course) showcasing the WoW Classic beta, and I have to say, watching Preach enjoy old school tanking is far and away my favorite thing so far. I was unsure as to whether I would play Classic, as I have not had any interest in WoW for years, but seeing Preach tank has really put me back into the WoW mood.
Damn Mike, you realize how happy you sound playing Classic yeah? Haven't heard you that happy in a long time bro. I'm really enjoying these classic vids. I never played classic, came in around Black Temple, so I'm super hyped to experience it. Keep smashing it! -A fellow Mike
My hope is the popularity of Classic cause Blizz to A try and bring some of that old school mmo feel to live and B goves them extra time to work on the next Xpac. I think one of the main reasons Recent expansions launch with less and less to do is due to the major time constraints put on the team by the community.
Agreed. I think thats why they keep titanforge and absurd RNG in game, its an artificial way to extend the few content these expansions have. Even mythic plus is artificial as fk, oh you will fight the same enemies, get the same items, but with all numbers increased, so original
I remember a couple of months ago watching Preach and he was so disinterested in classic... Its awesome to see how excited and engaged he is. Makes me even more excited for classic!!
Tanking was my favorite role during Vanilla and BC. If you knew your class, you were a beast. No matter which tank class you chose. I bounced evenly between WAR and PLD. So good.
I knew this was going to happen to you Preach, as it happened to me when I started playing on a private server years ago! Glad to see you're enjoying yourself so much for a change
Preach, specializing in Axes is actually super strong in leveling. The level 30 warrior class quest gives you the Whirlwind Axe, which is a super powerful weapon that is BiS for the next 10 levels. Then you have the axe from SM Armory and Kang the Decapitator from Zul'Farrak which lasts you until 60. So going axes is actually super worth. The best leveling 2h weapons are axes.
I so miss tanking classic style. It was so fullfilling. I ran with my own group so we were constantly moving. I can't wait to get back into classic. What's great is all of my friends are joining back together for classic so we'll level together. Can't wait to tank again!!
Preach, you are so excited about everything...the look on your face ,your tone of voice,your vibe. This is so freekin cool man. See you guys in Classic WOW!! (I'm mage, yes, I would be honored to conjure some food for you) :-)
Grinding is indeed faster (and I'm not including aoe grinding). If it took you 7 months to get to 60 (grinding or questing) then you weren't playing very much.
10:15 "stupid challenges" Hahha, you're a tank after my own heart, Preach. I always did the same tanking. In this vid and others, I can see you taking joy and pride in how you are doing, and it's great. I'm feeling it the whole way man, and getting excited to get back into this. I might even tank again. Spread them sunders for the win, boi.
Hey preach would you consider doing a classic guide for Prot Warrior? I'm very interested on your take on gameplay but it is kinda hard to understand all the concepts you're juggling. Threat building seems very interesting especially since I never got to know it in a state where it really mattered ( started in Cata).
Preach, I'd love to know the specifics of how you plan to go down the prot tree, if u don't mind telling us. I'm happy to see u have fun with classic, it's super fun to watch!
Hey Preach, if memory serves me right then battle shout gives you 55 aoe threat per target buffed. I think demoralizing shout gives 50 threat on that specific mob, so in theory battle shout generates more threat than demoralizing shout depending on party make up and where you party is situated.
Loving the classic content Preach and you made me switch what I was going to roll from a warlock (my original vanillas character) to a Tauren Warrior. I didn't discover my love for warrior tanking until late vanilla and it just doesn't have the same joy in retail as it did then, tanking doesnt give me that rewarding feeling. I'd even say it seems more mindless than DPS. Can't wait to play classic. I still feel like Demo shout and BS spam for some easy AOE threat should be used in your rotations more but you handle yourself well as a vanilla tank. Hope to see way more Vanilla content in the future.
Watching you tank after watching Asmon is amazing... the difference is night and day. You made this run seem so smooth, and you actually use shield block lmao.
This, this is why I loved tanking back in TBC. As paladin would cycle through each mob make sure they had a stack of Seal of Truth debuff, then I had number of different ways to regain aggro, BoP, Avenger shield, Hoj, taunt, god that was so much more fun then today's "run in hit 1 button and it deals aoe damage wooooo... "
Im sure the other group members can step up a bit if you’re still learning, instead of just expecting you to cover all their slack. I’m joking of course. Learning will be stressful. But you’ll be fine in the end I’m sure 😊.
Dont worry about it! Its different than retail but not really harder, you just have to keep track of different things (like Preach said, what enemies have you hit how many times, did they dodge/parry, rage management, ...). You learn that stuff quite fast in low level dungeons where its not a wipe if a mob hits a clothy 2-3 times. If you want an easier time (and also min-max a little bit), go for engineering - those bombs really help! Keep it up and enjoy your time!
Practice makes perfect :) I'm used to healing in BfA, never got to do it in Vanilla, so I look forward to see how it compares. With a semi patient group it should be okay (I hope)
What I quite liked about classic to bc and even lich king wow was the personality the classes, and roles had, which gave you alot of replayability between classes an roles. Aggro management, threat management, and dungeon knowledge was quite important to learn. Like the old rule of not attacking a target full on till the tank had five sunders on it, some could do it that had either a good control of thier threat or abilities to deal with threat, but also knowing so many ways of pulling groups to make it easier to defeat them an group them up. Like when I switched to a paladin tank in BC i would use line of sight so much in shadow halls , which also having so many undead an demons made it that I could use my holy long range attack nice for pulling groups instead of using my shield or face pullig them.
Oh my, the old Scarlet Monestary! How I miss thee. Armory and Cathedral was like my second home away from home back in the day. At the end of my crusade against the crusaders I tanked with my whirlwind axe and it was glorious. Armed with SM gear at lvl 39 (divinity gauntlets, herod's shoulders/helmet, scarlet chestpiece/legs/shield, sword of omen) and some other nice things from other dungeons made my warrior feel like the king of the world (even though plate was just around the corner haha).
Preach makes tanking look super easy and always gets me excited to tank... then I find out the hard way that it’s like running into a brick wall while riding a bicycle with no helmet. Hoping I can get the hang of it in classic because it looks super fun!
Preach, do you think you will release some class guides once Classic hits? I have played a resto druid from the beginning, and have decided to change it up and roll a mage for my main, so any help would be appreciated.
As an early bc player after banning myself from vanilla I am so happy to see the start of this again. I love the lore of the game. Always feel most happy in Azeroth questing. Been a high end raider through bc, wraith and cata. Played each xpac to some degree but finally relieved to be back to the roots of what this game is about. Character growth and reward for hard work is what this game is about. To me the new xpac's feel more and more like a mobile app to make a quick buck. If they bring TBC back looking forward to doing the keymaster achievement again and gaining the tabard as the portal is open. Happy days
A good tank can really make a huge difference. A good tank + a group not acting like complete muppets and it’s like a well oiled machine. Such a good feeling 😊.
If I recall, full Prot builds didn't become viable until later in the game with all the balance patches, but late-game is when you want to do things like Fury-Prot anyway (for the extra threat from your damage that lets your raid hold back less).
Taunt is a failure, I love that quote! That is exactly how I view tanking as well in classic! (Which is why I am going to be a pally tank) because of the tank is doing his job correctly, taunt is merely a worst case scenario spell.
I was a tank (dungeon/raid) pretty much all vanilla and tbc and loved it. I quit at the end of tbc just from burn out of basically feeling like I was being forced to login all the time 'for the good of the guild'. When I came back (just before mop) I just couldn't get the same feeling back. At the time I thought it was the fear of being forced to be on all the time but I'm beginning to realise it was more that it was just more fun back in the day. Sure the classes were crap and you pretty much just hit 2-3 buttons but having to think about aggro, target swapping etc.. just added a skill to the game that appealed to me. Used to love getting complimented on my threat holding, survivability, etc.. dammit! Wasn't interested in classic but these vids are getting the old nostalgia juices flowing
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you can just feel preachs excitement. I'm so happy for him and I can't wait till I get to play. Been enjoying the content a lot more recently :)
His enthusiasm is infectious. Really making me want to roll a tank in Classic
Even more so: look at his excitement at loot. In the previous vids he was excited at greens, GREENS ffs!!. When was the last time anyone was excited over an epic let alone blues or greens.
classic hype is building, normies are waking up 1 by 1
Too bad the gameplay is still pretty damn lacking. He got some ways to go before he can really make them vanilla guides but I do appreciate his confidence
@ You would have to be a full on crack head if you think vanilla isn't any different outside of QOL changes, pretty sure you would need a scroll to list the differences... and a longer list to write down all the subs have dropped since those QOL changes :)
Ironically WOW could end up being the 'actual' WOW killer.
evan you don't beleive that :)
@Not Drunk James It is a threat to the modern game. Go in to trade chat right now and ask how many people are just playing while waiting for classic. In my experience the number of people that would answer yes to that is quite high.
@Not Drunk James The majority of classic WOW players will come from the current WOW player base.
Once you are the other side of letting go of your wow account it is a stark realization of how bad the the whole experience actually is too your well being.
'Wow killers' have mostly failed because they cannot match the 'investment' players put into their Wow accounts.
If classic Wow can pull players away from their modern Wow accounts, they will find it much easier to let go of classic later*
We'll see.
*That being said, if Blizzard pulled off a full rewind and long time players started the journey all over again, that would be quite spectacular, scary but nonetheless amazing.
@Not Drunk James Account is very different to the must login effect. Folk aren't addicted to the account, they are addicted to 'their' heroes.
It takes not logging into that to get the epiphany
I also don't believe for a minute that classic Wow couldn't or wouldn't change its model if they see data showing the playerbase moving to classic.
I'm looking forward to Classic pouring plenty of subscription money into WoW. All I care about is people paying their subscriptions so Blizzard can continue to develop WoW. Classic servers, WoW expansions, I don't care.
When I started vanilla I was shit, then I randomly met a druid who became my friend, she taught me how to tank and tested me by pulling extra mobs when I least expected to see how I coped with it. Still friends to this day, but one of the best things she taught me about foresight as a tank was if you needed to use taunt, you'd failed at tanking (unless it was a specific mechanic that needed you to taunt).
The idea being if I needed to use taunt I hadn't been paying attention or keeping myself prepared for the unexpected. I ended up being main tank for my guild and raided all the way to naxx 40, so I'm always grateful for her turning me from a shit tank into a good one who was able to help push the guild forward in raids. It felt great!
I'm so worried I'll get re addicted to wow. Not current wow, but classic wow, I can almost feel it just watching it lol
Mate I feel the same way. I was 15 when I got hooked back in classic and I am getting the same urges to play I did back then 15 years later. I am dying to get into the deadmines, wipe in gnomeregan and corpse run for 10 minutes, and kite drakki in ubrs.
I'm not worried at all my G, NOT WORRIED AT ALL
I'm not worried
Why be worried about the inevitable
If you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you
Yea.. I'm very scared for my professional/social life.
Same....
“Anyone down for RFC? I have all the quests if they can be shared”
“I’m down for RFC :)”
8:00
I bet you these two guys are still questing and dungeoning together, this is perfect.
Preach going super tactical on those grey mobs
That druid was re-thornsing you, healing with quick rejuves, then popping back into kitty form.
That was what made feral so fun.
God I love classic
The true power of hybrids in Classic. They may get pigeonholed in endgame, but I tanked, healed, and dpsed my way through most content on private servers as a Shaman... all at once. You literally do EVERYTHING.
B-but I can't play funny boom chicken in a raid therefore the class is useless!
I was smiling all the way through the run. Good drood.
@@Rave.- I mean, onyxia was downed by a group of just shamans, so. :p
I demand a thirty minute video of Preach and his group dying while trying to run to Stockades
Preach you didn't link anything Below lol
Even Preach gets old.
classic WoW was made by real nerds. while the technocrat nerds of silicon valley were scheming their evil schemes, the uber nerds at blizzard crafted us the greatest game ever. it is going down in history as the next pong, mario, pacman, etc. Blizzard were FOOLs to change the original philosophy.
yeah but a lot has changed since then since 2006 a lot of BLizzard's core team working on WOW ( and Diablo) left Blizzard, Some of them formed Runic games and made League of Legends, etc.
Dat SFK/MC theme music at 0:21.. seriously one of my favorite themes ever!
I get chills whenever I hear it
Same. Orginal SFK was one of my favs. I have this track on my running playlist to this day.
The music in Classic and TBC was absolutely epic. Drove the instances and keeps you pumped!
its called battle 04 on yt if you wanna pull it up.
@@kylesmith564 Yeah it is the generic battle music not a theme at all.
Preach: Spinning plates
Hunter: Just spams arcane shot on skull
Spamming arcane shot calls out the shitter hunters
If you really wanted to try you could time your melee and range auto attacks to get the best out of your class.
And just when i started to go out more and hike mountains, bike rides etc..
WOW classic pulls me back in!!.
The thing I missed the most about the old days is that chill dungeon group vibe. Nowdays every dungeon has to be rushed thanks to the m+ system and don't get me wrong that is fun too but imho I prefer the old playstile so much more.
Even in Vanilla you could Faceroll Dungeons. All you need is a Fury-Warrior Tank or Amrs-Warrior tank and faceroll the Content with an Shamane for Windfury. But if you can do that that means you got at least AQ Gear and at this Point you just wanna show of your gear :D
Dungeons were an adventure, now they are a moba. I hate m+ and cant wait to do these dungeons again.
@@yokaicomplex9066 You mean dungeons now are Mindless Geargrind just like in Diablo if you do crypt runs for Mindless Geargrind. WoW is jsut a Diablo with Multiplayer elements.
@@_TG I agree, both would be very welcome.
@@_TG No shouldn't be those are different MMO-Aspekts. If you keep Facerolling its more a Hack'n Slash gameplay and has nothing to do with an MMO. All you do is just spaming the Buttons. Classic needs a little bit more of Strategies becasue Tanking is not as easy as it is and seems. Enemy can Dodge and Parry attacks which degreeses your Threat and some Hyper-DPS like Mages can only go Single-Target and not AoE everything down in seconds. Vanilla Dungeons are way different and way different design compared to M+ and it started by Low HP Mobs pulling different Mobs and Enemy who can fear you can fear you into different Mobs. Besides that M+ is pure Cancer and shouldn't be in a MMO besides it gives Flasks only or enchants but no gear. Gear should be only available if you raid. No time for raiding? Sucks for you
These mobs are 6 levels lower than you or more, shouldn't be a struggle.
Yeah i was wondering why he was dying so slow here and then i realized how much higher a level he is then them lol no wonder it was so easy for him
HOLLA BALLERS! Love watching you play Classic. Cannot fucking wait for release.
Man, I didn't think I would want to play Classic, but seeing your excitement, Mike, really makes me want to join in, perhaps as a tank too.
I've been watching you for a couple of years now mate, and the way you are about this video is 100% different than the others (for years!). You literally seem to enjoy what is happening and you are a different person. Because of that, you make us feel the same joy about the game as you do. Thank you for posting this. Honestly you have always posted amazing content, but the voice you have in this video; everyone can hear that you're truly enjoying what you're doing VS "I have to because I need a TH-cam video". Keep it up mate.
I see you still challenging yourself to not use War stomp.
And Battle Shout, to a lesser extent.
What's funny, the only time he uses War Stomp is when he's mind controlled.
Thank you! Every time he pulled a pack of 4-5, I was like, "this time he'll do it for sure..."
YES -Tactical Mastery + Anger Management is so good, glad you brought this up coz ppl used to treat me like I was a nutter for saying it.
@Preach Gaming Shield slam actually does a huge amount of threat in an attack, it's just usually not worth using it until you have a pretty good block value. But far as I can tell, with more recent math and understanding of how threat and such works, deep prot is the way to go as a full time tank, with some in arms and fury.
Also, Battle Shout generates threat on enemies for each party member buffed by it, so weaving it into your rotation in groups of mobs is a good habit to get into.
Edited: Corrected shield slam's usage
Huh... I tanked a lot in Vanilla and never knew that about BS.
Battle Shout could generate thread? That's pretty neat.
As someone with no interest in trying Classic myself, I'm really interested in hearing your views of Classic after level 30. Most notably, do you think this enjoyment would continue long term?
As you've said before, the core gameplay itself is not particularly good, but you seem to have found your joy in the older style of tanking specifically. Do you think that will be enough to carry you through some of the more tedious aspects of the game? Do you think you would be enjoying yourself in any other role where you don't have that factor of tank management to keep the combat more involved for you?
Most content creators that are hyping up Classic at the moment don't seem to really have a good explanation for their fondness of it, it generally comes off as just enjoying experiencing the game in such a different way, but I feel your perspective could have a lot more insight into what is actually enjoyable about it.
don't play it.
I think it stays enjoyable because the leveling experience from 30 to 45 is great and its when you get deep enough in your talent trees to feel specialized and you start unlocking strong abilities.
Not usually that into TDP, but I found this one really interesting. Didn’t even play classic back in the day, just really fun to watch. Great video Preach.
One hundred percent agree on the tanking minigame and "keeping things moving". Watching your threat on each mob, evaluating the next pack, marking CC targets if necessary, checking your healer's mana to see if you can continue chaining or need to take a break (which you can only do after monitoring them for the first 10 minutes to see how efficiently they use their mana in the first place). The hyper-awareness of so many moving parts allows a TRULY talented tank will single handedly craft a satisfying dungeon experience front to back, and is one of my favorite parts of the game to play as well.
P.S. Nice to see you picked up the Wing Blade. You not being on the Leaders of the Fang quest in WC made me cry XD
Great video, great tanking! It's nice to see another tank who thinks and tanks exactly the same as I do (or at least did in Vanilla WoW) These days it's too easy. I actually stopped playing WoW after reaching max level in BFA as the game lost it's personality. I played Wow at launch and no game has ever come close to the feeling I had while running around in Coldridge Valley and Kharanos on my Dwarf Warrior, finally progressing to Loch Modan and seeing another player riding on the back of a Ram mount which blew my mind. I cannot wait for this game. I will keep watching your videos with great interest. Thank you
This guy is the embodiment of a great tank. Observing everything even if you don't need to, ultimately becoming a great leader aswell. That's why main tanks were very often the raidleaders back then and also my raidleader. Been watching you since early cata, you didn't loose your stride at all sir. Big respect.
It's lovely to see preach enjoy this so much. He always was like: "why would I go back and play something I already did?" While I was there in the bushes grinning, just you wait sir, just you wait. 😁
Your description of the way that you prioritize the mobs you are tanking is exactly why I loved it back in the day, before everyone had an AOE threat spammer. Having to actually think about how to use your resource to most effectively maintain your threat was an amazing game to play.
dude you make my heart so happy just watching the way you tank :) tanking used to be an art, and i do appreciate watching you show off your art. thank you for showing this to us, preach.
Preach, the master of the humble brag....
Pointless humblebrag, half the time, too. He's pulling 4-5 mobs when his DPS can sustain on 2-3 max.
@@Rave.- yet he still holds all 5 🤔
"I'm playing a different game! This is not World of Warcraft" Lol love the videos preach keep it up! You're awesome and your videos make me smile every day!
Well explained Mike, i haven't heard anyone else nail it quite like this. explaining just how far the game has gotten from the original game we all loved, patch by patch, xpac by xpac it has slowly inched further and further from what we had.
Happy to see so many people get back in touch with the reason they started playing WoW in the first place.
Preach:
Horde Warrior. tanking, having fun, explaining the mindset of a classic wow tank, passes on loot.
Asmongoloid:
Alliance Warrior. tanking, telling everyone he's the fuckin best at tanking, disregards healing contribution, master loots everything.
need i say more?
Yea... you should mention that you clearly *aren't* watching Asmongold's entire streams...as he's lost the best gear numerous times to both Esfand and McConnell... and done so quite vocally (as he is known for doing).
As a fan of his channel from the very beginning I can also say how obvious it is that he is catering to a MUCH younger audience than his fellow streamers. Essentially playing a tongue-in-cheek style of game, to garner extra levels of enjoyment from players who haven't MASTERED the entire game 15 years ago, and who are interested in minutia other streamers are "above" sheerly by virtue of their streams age groups.
Asmongold has spoken time and time again that his average viewer is between 12-16yrs old... with only about 10-15% of his audience falling in the 20-30yrs age gap that WE represent.
Nice try on the virtue signally though... hope that works out.
@@conanmcclanahan1069 So sorry to have insulted your idol. I would never have thought Asmongoloid had such an impact on anyone, not that i really care, not that i was actually referring to the player stereotype on either faction, not that i was actually having a good fanny ha ha joke, guess i better show my love and affection to Azmongoloid and give him all my wow gold like everyone else so he can show off how cool he is having the most expensive mount in retail. Thanks for showing me the way by signalling me towards the one true honest player in wow
@@BIGMACBURGER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Keep going bro. You'll hit that nail eventually.
This was so satisfying to watch all the add management.
his weapon here compared to the wailing caverns weapon is lightning fast
Good observation. Yeah, in old school wow getting a 1.8 speed sword or thereabouts is a big deal for tanking. You don't want some 2.6 speed mace, as it'll inhibit your rage generation from auto attacks. Every little bit counts. source: prot war in vanilla; haven't tanked since lol.
It is SO good to see this, the fact that he haven't given BfA one inch of a thought because he is entertained with and OLDER version of the game HAS to tell Blizz something, and as Ion said in one of the recent interviews "There is definitely some lessons to be learned" which is good to hear, and I am soo into these video's where Preach teach's HOW to do it almost deep diving, cus I have also wanted to tank in Classic but always been scared to do so, Thank you @Preach Gaming
This was so refreshing to watch. No whirlwind of shit and sparkles as packs of enemies just get sucked up into the twister of carnage.
You should teach AsmonBald how to tank
Preach is a better tank but asmon is not that bad
He should also teach asmon how to deal with cc
@@AdrasAdraki Haha Asmon is funny though, screaming at people to CC an add, then he stands with the one he is tanking just beside the CC'ed mob and uses cleave, breaking CC.
Then continutes to scream for CC and calling them names :P
@@Validifyed And how to duel
Dude, "Deep Prot" is the shit. I used to do it all the time, not only do you make yourself basically invulnerable, you're also a stun machine. When you're almost at 50% chance to stun on EVERY REVENGE? You are constantly stunning targets. Also, the rage generation with level 5 Shield specialization is sick because it's every time you block. Shield slam does a shitload of damage, because everyone misses the part about "Modified by your shield block value". So you're a blocking/threat/stun machine that's basically invulnerable. Takes a ton of heat off the healers.
I was already excited to tank in classic again. You just got me SO pumped. It's been forever since I've spun plates like that. This video basically retaught me to do it and gave me extra tips.
You never really followed up on your claim that wrath killed tanking.
Man Preach, this is the video I needed today. Working my Sunday shift, all I kept thinking about was whether or not I wanted to roll myself a warrior in Classic. Seeing these pulls sold me on going prot again. Thanks mate.
I have been watching a lot of videos and twitch stream archives (uploaded on youtube of course) showcasing the WoW Classic beta, and I have to say, watching Preach enjoy old school tanking is far and away my favorite thing so far. I was unsure as to whether I would play Classic, as I have not had any interest in WoW for years, but seeing Preach tank has really put me back into the WoW mood.
This was an absolute joy to watch! Faith in humanity restored, people remember how to tank!
I love these classic TDPs, hope they raise the beta cap so you can run more dungeons
I love this. This is preach in his element right here.
It puts a smile on my face :)
It has long been foretold that only Blizzard could kill WoW. No one could have predicted it would happen like this.
Damn Mike, you realize how happy you sound playing Classic yeah? Haven't heard you that happy in a long time bro. I'm really enjoying these classic vids. I never played classic, came in around Black Temple, so I'm super hyped to experience it. Keep smashing it! -A fellow Mike
I really can't wait to watch all the videos you put out once Classic actually launches.
My hope is the popularity of Classic cause Blizz to A try and bring some of that old school mmo feel to live and B goves them extra time to work on the next Xpac. I think one of the main reasons Recent expansions launch with less and less to do is due to the major time constraints put on the team by the community.
Agreed. I think thats why they keep titanforge and absurd RNG in game, its an artificial way to extend the few content these expansions have. Even mythic plus is artificial as fk, oh you will fight the same enemies, get the same items, but with all numbers increased, so original
I'm worried that all Blizzard will see is that BfA is saved thanks to all the subscription money coming in again.
@@HiddenEvilStudios Total subscribers btw haha. They will never admit it if classic does better, thats for sure
I remember a couple of months ago watching Preach and he was so disinterested in classic... Its awesome to see how excited and engaged he is. Makes me even more excited for classic!!
He just smells money
Damm. That's probably the happiest I've seen him with world of warcraft since the wf race in London
Tanking was my favorite role during Vanilla and BC. If you knew your class, you were a beast. No matter which tank class you chose. I bounced evenly between WAR and PLD. So good.
I knew this was going to happen to you Preach, as it happened to me when I started playing on a private server years ago! Glad to see you're enjoying yourself so much for a change
I am so excited for this. I made so many friends that I still have today through the bond me made in classic wow.
HOLY CRAP look at that action bar! Preach has more abilities to use than players in retail.
Nah, Warriors in Retail still have most of these abilities, they simply have no real need to use them outside PvP
and they only use 1 button in classic.
Preach, specializing in Axes is actually super strong in leveling. The level 30 warrior class quest gives you the Whirlwind Axe, which is a super powerful weapon that is BiS for the next 10 levels. Then you have the axe from SM Armory and Kang the Decapitator from Zul'Farrak which lasts you until 60. So going axes is actually super worth. The best leveling 2h weapons are axes.
I so miss tanking classic style. It was so fullfilling. I ran with my own group so we were constantly moving. I can't wait to get back into classic. What's great is all of my friends are joining back together for classic so we'll level together.
Can't wait to tank again!!
Preach, you are so excited about everything...the look on your face ,your tone of voice,your vibe. This is so freekin cool man. See you guys in Classic WOW!! (I'm mage, yes, I would be honored to conjure some food for you) :-)
What do I most remember about Vanilla? *Hearing* that quests were not efficient XP for leveling and grinding mobs to my first 60 after 7 months.
SeeDubEE you may have heard that from a mage aoe grinding. Even then it’s only more efficient at certain levels in very specific spots.
Grinding is indeed faster (and I'm not including aoe grinding). If it took you 7 months to get to 60 (grinding or questing) then you weren't playing very much.
Classic will consume Preach. Just you wait and see!
Shammy was my first 60. That comment about earthshock brought back soooo many memories
It is wonderful seeing you having real fun again. I think “Classic” is going to be a good time here. :)
10:15 "stupid challenges" Hahha, you're a tank after my own heart, Preach. I always did the same tanking. In this vid and others, I can see you taking joy and pride in how you are doing, and it's great. I'm feeling it the whole way man, and getting excited to get back into this. I might even tank again. Spread them sunders for the win, boi.
Haven't seen Preach this excited in years bro
Hey preach would you consider doing a classic guide for Prot Warrior? I'm very interested on your take on gameplay but it is kinda hard to understand all the concepts you're juggling. Threat building seems very interesting especially since I never got to know it in a state where it really mattered ( started in Cata).
Hey,
Where are those links to the other runs?
Enjoying the classic content.
thanks
Preach: An example of a good tank who didnt need the Omen Threat Meter.
01:36
MOOTSJ MORE AGGRESSIVE
MOOTSJ MORE COOMFORTABLE
WITH THE DOONGEON ITSELF
its clearly cause his race hes sayin MOOOch, you dont understand RP! >.
Preach, I'd love to know the specifics of how you plan to go down the prot tree, if u don't mind telling us.
I'm happy to see u have fun with classic, it's super fun to watch!
Hey Preach, if memory serves me right then battle shout gives you 55 aoe threat per target buffed. I think demoralizing shout gives 50 threat on that specific mob, so in theory battle shout generates more threat than demoralizing shout depending on party make up and where you party is situated.
Loving the classic content Preach and you made me switch what I was going to roll from a warlock (my original vanillas character) to a Tauren Warrior. I didn't discover my love for warrior tanking until late vanilla and it just doesn't have the same joy in retail as it did then, tanking doesnt give me that rewarding feeling. I'd even say it seems more mindless than DPS. Can't wait to play classic. I still feel like Demo shout and BS spam for some easy AOE threat should be used in your rotations more but you handle yourself well as a vanilla tank. Hope to see way more Vanilla content in the future.
Watching you tank after watching Asmon is amazing... the difference is night and day. You made this run seem so smooth, and you actually use shield block lmao.
This was well smooth, Mike. Really cool to see. Anyway where are the two links you promised? I can't see them in the description.
This, this is why I loved tanking back in TBC. As paladin would cycle through each mob make sure they had a stack of Seal of Truth debuff, then I had number of different ways to regain aggro, BoP, Avenger shield, Hoj, taunt, god that was so much more fun then today's "run in hit 1 button and it deals aoe damage wooooo... "
I miss it so much, been tanking on my paladin from vanilla until now and BC and Wotlk were great times to be a tankadin.
I love seeing how happy and hyped mike is while playing the beta. Can’t wait for classic to officially launch
glad to see you are having fun mate, cant wait for release
I have never heard anyone talk about themself more than this guy. Every sentence starts with , "I".
Classic! So stoked! August 27th can’t come quick enough!
I'm going to play a tank in classic. Unfortunately, I suspect I will be terrible.
Im sure the other group members can step up a bit if you’re still learning, instead of just expecting you to cover all their slack.
I’m joking of course. Learning will be stressful. But you’ll be fine in the end I’m sure 😊.
Dont worry about it! Its different than retail but not really harder, you just have to keep track of different things (like Preach said, what enemies have you hit how many times, did they dodge/parry, rage management, ...). You learn that stuff quite fast in low level dungeons where its not a wipe if a mob hits a clothy 2-3 times.
If you want an easier time (and also min-max a little bit), go for engineering - those bombs really help! Keep it up and enjoy your time!
I'm going healer. Who knows, perhaps we'll bump into each other and both be crap 😂😂✌
Practice makes perfect :) I'm used to healing in BfA, never got to do it in Vanilla, so I look forward to see how it compares. With a semi patient group it should be okay (I hope)
@@Sanne78 I main a healer in FFXIV, it's going to be fun playing original wow after so long. 👍
Preach is in top form, good to see. You the Man, bro.
What I quite liked about classic to bc and even lich king wow was the personality the classes, and roles had, which gave you alot of replayability between classes an roles. Aggro management, threat management, and dungeon knowledge was quite important to learn. Like the old rule of not attacking a target full on till the tank had five sunders on it, some could do it that had either a good control of thier threat or abilities to deal with threat, but also knowing so many ways of pulling groups to make it easier to defeat them an group them up.
Like when I switched to a paladin tank in BC i would use line of sight so much in shadow halls , which also having so many undead an demons made it that I could use my holy long range attack nice for pulling groups instead of using my shield or face pullig them.
That music in the last half of the dungeon before fenris. Omg so amazing
Oh my, the old Scarlet Monestary! How I miss thee. Armory and Cathedral was like my second home away from home back in the day. At the end of my crusade against the crusaders I tanked with my whirlwind axe and it was glorious. Armed with SM gear at lvl 39 (divinity gauntlets, herod's shoulders/helmet, scarlet chestpiece/legs/shield, sword of omen) and some other nice things from other dungeons made my warrior feel like the king of the world (even though plate was just around the corner haha).
"I dont need that too slow" *rolls a perfect 100* 11:44 lol classic
Preach makes tanking look super easy and always gets me excited to tank... then I find out the hard way that it’s like running into a brick wall while riding a bicycle with no helmet. Hoping I can get the hang of it in classic because it looks super fun!
Preach, do you think you will release some class guides once Classic hits? I have played a resto druid from the beginning, and have decided to change it up and roll a mage for my main, so any help would be appreciated.
the only thing i noticed in the dungeon was the priest was wanding.......i am so proud
Havent heard preach that excited about WoW in years.
Hope blizzard is taking note.
Hello 2006 WoW, yeah, 2019 WoW called. We want you back.
As an early bc player after banning myself from vanilla I am so happy to see the start of this again. I love the lore of the game. Always feel most happy in Azeroth questing. Been a high end raider through bc, wraith and cata. Played each xpac to some degree but finally relieved to be back to the roots of what this game is about. Character growth and reward for hard work is what this game is about. To me the new xpac's feel more and more like a mobile app to make a quick buck. If they bring TBC back looking forward to doing the keymaster achievement again and gaining the tabard as the portal is open. Happy days
Will you still link the other runs? I don't see them anywhere yet:(
omg that Troll eating and drinking during downtime. Nostalgia!
A good tank can really make a huge difference.
A good tank + a group not acting like complete muppets and it’s like a well oiled machine. Such a good feeling 😊.
If I recall, full Prot builds didn't become viable until later in the game with all the balance patches, but late-game is when you want to do things like Fury-Prot anyway (for the extra threat from your damage that lets your raid hold back less).
Taunt is a failure, I love that quote! That is exactly how I view tanking as well in classic! (Which is why I am going to be a pally tank) because of the tank is doing his job correctly, taunt is merely a worst case scenario spell.
I'm so stoked for classic. My time in bfa is spent farming gold to stack tokens for classic. And waiting for beta
I was a tank (dungeon/raid) pretty much all vanilla and tbc and loved it. I quit at the end of tbc just from burn out of basically feeling like I was being forced to login all the time 'for the good of the guild'. When I came back (just before mop) I just couldn't get the same feeling back. At the time I thought it was the fear of being forced to be on all the time but I'm beginning to realise it was more that it was just more fun back in the day. Sure the classes were crap and you pretty much just hit 2-3 buttons but having to think about aggro, target swapping etc.. just added a skill to the game that appealed to me. Used to love getting complimented on my threat holding, survivability, etc.. dammit! Wasn't interested in classic but these vids are getting the old nostalgia juices flowing
So great to hear you excited about the game again!
I almost want to stop watching these just to preserve the magic of doing the later dungeons for the first time again