Scots-Irish: the road to Appalachia.
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- A short excerpt from 'Hillbilly: The Real Story' tells how the Scots-Irish came to be in the Appalachian mountains. From the Border wars between Scotland & England then onto Ireland to battle the Irish before setting sail to further hardships in the New World in search of liberty & freedom. Please visit: www.forgedinulster.co.uk
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Love this! if only the History Channel would go back to its roots and actually teach us about "history."
Yeah, I'm shocked too. History Channel hasn't shown history documentaries since up to a few years after 9-11. I was still in high school at the time, and remember as of 2004, you could still watch docs. What happened?
@@derrickmcadoo3804 yeah! Now all thr documentaries are about chefs 🙄
Except they got it wrong. Again.
The Scottish people are a mix of Britons, Picts, and a splash of Norse thrown in there, with a lot of Irish thrown in for good measure.
The Irish, who did come to America both voluntarily and otherwise, are not an offshoot of the Scots.
If anything, it's the other way around.
Nazis and UFO channel and of course pickers and pawn reruns.
@Gus Shredney Actually, I’ve read multiple books by authors like Sykes and Oppenheimer looking at the DNA of the British Isles, and he isn’t wrong. Calling the guy a “propagandist” makes no sense....
So very proud of my Scott Irish,Cherokee Indian and Italian heritage. My kin live in the Appalachian Mountains and hollers of West Virginia. My mother always referred to me as Heinz 57.
LOL! I like Heinz 57!
You might be very interested in seeing the trailer of this movie in that case.
@@ericwitt4359 Which movie are you referring to?
LOL, in this case "Heinz 57" is particularly relevant. H. J. Heinz, while a German, WAS from Pittsburgh. The City of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania was basically created by the Scot-Irish. And Fun fact: Pittsburgh IS the largest city in Appalachia.
@@doberman1ism This one - th-cam.com/video/nWM8Lx5NolU/w-d-xo.html
Most Americans who claim Irish descent are descended from the Gaelic Irish who came by the millions in the 1840s. The "Scots-Irish" came in the early to mid 1700s, and would've identified as either Scottish or Irish. They made up 20% of the population at the time of the Revolutionary War.
There were several migrations of Gaelic Irish prior to the Famine Times of the 1840-50's... A little know migration was from Ireland to Mexico in the 1820-30's where the Irish were granted Mexican Land Grants in the area that was later to become the State of Texas. These Irish were significant in the revolution that gained Texas its independence from Mexican rule. My ancestors were among these Irish immigrants and several of them gave their lives for Texas independence. San Patricio County in Texas was named in honor of the Irish who settled there and fought for the cause of Texas independence......
If you want to know if your ancestors were "Johnny come lately" or true pioneers trace your ancestors. Most of the old names are English not Irish or Scotch.
I have documented proof some of my Scottish ancestors came from Aberdeen Scotland in 1685. Captain John H Akin.
@@Gary-bz1rf how do you know? Based on religion?
Interesting 🤔
The term Scots Irish did not evolve until they arrived in America. They were called Ulster Scots in Northern Ireland...
Yah because you where there during that time lol
@@BigRed2 they are called Ulster Scots, as I am one living in Northern Ireland and back then it was just Ulster
Ulster Scots Man I totally agree. There is a big difference between Ulster compared to the rest of Ireland. The term Scotch-Irish is such a weird term. It’s crazy how times change America became independent because of Ulster Protestants who were clearly not Unionist at that time. Now if look at the modern day Unionist of Ulster a majority are very Protestant and very British. I bet if we had more Unionist Protestants settle during colonial times the U.S. would most likely be a part of the Commonwealth of Nations.
They were just called Irish when they first came to America even though they were Ulstermen. They changed it to Scots Irish when the potato famined Catholics showed up to differentiate themselves from them.
@Lynn Lamont Presbyterians were discriminated against by the Anglican church, which is why many of them emigrated in the 1700s - Catholicism was more or less outlawed in Ireland at this time.
My ancestors were Lowlander’s of the Hamilton Clan. My family settled in Wise County in a place called Big Stone Gap VA. Most of my kin still lives there to this day.
and mine, New England Yankees, fucked you up
@@johndoe-fq7ez what is your problem?
@@jcfc8197 no problem just having a laugh, American Yankees shouldn’t be forgotten either. We literally found cultivated and created this country just saying you were the immigrants that came after we’d been here since 1620, about 200 years before you.
@@johndoe-fq7ez My Great Grandmother was a Hamilton(Lowlander Scotland) she married my Great Grandfather who was a Cole(England).
My 11th Great Grandfather was James Cole.
Also known as the “Innkeeper of Plymouth Colony”
Born: July 25, 1600, Highgate, London, Middlesex, England
Death: October 1678, Plymouth Massachusetts
Husband of Mary Cole (Lobel)
Occupation: Shoemaker, Innkeeper, Sailor, Surveyor
James Cole arrived in Plymouth Mass in 1633. Owner of a Tavern on a hill that over looked Plymouth
Rock. The hill is known as Cole’s Hill.
My family has been here pretty much from the start. On my Great Grandmother side, the Hamiltons we are related to Alexander Hamiltons, who was the first Secretary of Treasury. You know, the man on our $10 bill.
I’m Scottish/English on my mother’s side of the family, and my father’s side of the family came from the Azores Islands which means I’m half Portuguese. I have brown hair, blue eyes, and I look tan all year around.
One thing: Cherokee and Scots-Irish and Scottish Highlanders did get on fairly well together. They shared quite a number of the same customs and traditions and intermarried a great deal.
Irish immigrants come to the USA
Hines-Reed Ulster Scots Irish Cherokee grandmother here. ;)
Where are you guys from
@@shaynewheeler9249 Think the Catholic Irish came to America about 100 years later and mainly settled in the big cities on the East coast
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My ancestors were Highlanders, we imagrated too, I live in East Tennessee
Same except only some of my family members imagrated but I’ll be there one day 🏴🇺🇸
From what I gather my ancestors were Ulster Scots. Alot of that in Kentucky I believe. Probably throughout the Appalachians.
The only large scale battle in the American Revolution fought between American Loyalists and Patriots was Kings Mountain in which there was only one member of the British Army involved; Patrick Ferguson, the commanding officer of the Loyalist Militia...
Strange to believe, since this battle took place only about 34 years after the disastrous defeat of the Highland Clans at the Battle of Culloden and the terrible repression of the Clans subsequent to Culloden, most of the Loyalist Militia were recruited from Highland Scots settlers and most of the Patriot Militia (including one of my direct ancestors) were Scots Irish settlers from the Back Country...
So some of your forekind also spoke Scots Gaelic
@@bigfoxgamingbroplays8802 tha sin fìor!
We were always "people in between", first as border Scots, neither fully English or Scottish, then as strangers in a strange land, both in Ireland and America, always caught between England and her enemies. Fighting was bred into us by necessity through countless generations, along with a strong distrust of outsiders. We haven't really gotten over it yet.
I've never, ever heard of people from the Scottish Borders being called 'people in between' and I've lived in Scotland all my life and been studying Scottish History for nigh on 50 years.
@@iainmacmillan9575 how thick are you
@@iainmacmillan9575 The Reiver clans ruled the Scottish borders between 1300 and 1600. When James I took the English throne he crushed them because they compromised his ability to rule Scotland from London. The Kerrs and the Scotts helped him to do this and became wealthy lords as a result.
Yup. I can tell! Having moved from Connecticut (that damn Yankee) PS our kids may meet fall in love and marry... GASP!!!
@WhiteChocolate Bear what are you talking about ? The Reivers were characterized by "disloyalty." In wars between Scotland and England they picked whichever side looked like it was winning. Or hedged their bets and fought on both sides. In the Scottish borders, loyalty to a distant monarch was a weakness. It was a murderous cattle rustling culture where loyalists were easy targets.
I would also like to add how important documentaries like this, on Scottish Americans, are. Most Scottish Americans today mistakenly call themselves Irish, even though they are Scottish, but they don't know it. They dropped the "Scots" from "Scots-Irish" and just call themselves Irish, when it should be the exact opposite. Most Scottish Americans don't know that they are Scottish. They mistakenly think that they are Irish because of the confusing "Scots-Irish" term.
True. (My family was Ulster Scot.) People need to remember: The Scots went to Ireland in the 17th century to help conquer and defeat the Irish. The Irish despised these Scotsmen, so there was very little intermarriage between the Scots and the Irish. They were the enemy--and there were differences of religion. (Scots=Protestant / Irish=Catholic) in a world that was very religious and sectarian. If you're able to take your family tree back to Northern Ireland most of your "Scots-Irish" ancestors will be 100% Scottish. You'll be hard pressed to find a single drop of Irish blood. The Ulster Scots typically stayed together, kept their clan system alive in Ireland, and married other Scotsmen.
@@russbear31 look up the scottish galoglas in ireland. they were hired by irish chiefs to fight off the invading normans in 12th century. the were given large tracts of land in return. the macdonalds/o,donnel sweeney, mccabes and more.hence the macs/mcs in ireland. then , the later redshanks who were hired in the 1600s by irish chiefs. you are right about the ulster scots. most of these ulster scots would still have been full scots having lived in ireland a few years or even months then leaving for the americas.
@@russbear31 Intermarriage was prohibited under the Penal Laws unless proposed by a Protestant.
@@brucecollins4729some stayed in Ireland, and decided not to go to America. My last name is Redfearn. My family landed on the shores of North Carolina in 1658, but one or two stayed in Ireland and I guess would be legit Scott-Irish lol.
@@to3ta64 only in amerikay are are they called scots-irish as ireland was their last port of call. it's ulster scots in ireland. these scots were boarder reivers from the the boarders of scotland and england. also english reivers. when james the 6th of scotland became king of england,ireland (ist uk monarch) he transported the reivers to ireland some went to amerikay. the boarders was a lawless place,murder/cattle rustling/hangings etc(probably the forerunner to the wild west). he wanted rid o these people because they were out of control. also forced over to ireland were folks from the hebridean isles. taking there gallic sean-nos singin/sangs and stepdance with them. you can type in the clan carruthers boarder reivers .....and.......the history of the border reivers.....
Thomas Sowell has an excellent book on this subject.
My daddy’s mostly British, but my mama’s line came from Dumfriesshire and Antrim, settling in Virginia, where I’m still a proud resident of. I’ve always been a fierce girl, so it’s nice to know where my hardheadedness came from lol
My family dates back to the early 1700s. Starting off in Port Tobacco, Charles County, Mayland as Free People of Color then moving westward into Kentucky & Ohio. We are of mixed race ancestry African Americans with Native American and Scottish blood... we are melungeon people from Madison County, Kentucky. Madison County is listed within the foothills of the Appalachia region.
These same people, the ones that fought at King's Mountain, had signed an Independence Agreement against England, 4 years before our own Declaration of Independence.
My ancestors fought at King's Mountain. On the winning Patriot side.... One of my uncle's became the first Governor of Kentucky........Isaac Shelby.
A good video for the most part. However, at 2:37 they say that the Scotch-Irish were uneducated. This is not true. If anything, the Scotch-Irish were fairly well educated when compared to their relative poverty. Education was very important within the Scotch-Irish community, especially for those connected to the Presbyterian church.
And, both the Scots and Ulster-Scots had a rather large impact on American education.
My mother was a Thompson :)
WaternSpirit Well, technically I'm not a Thompson because my dad was adopted. However, he does have information that his real mother was Scotch-Irish. Also, my mom's maiden name is Alexander, and our first Alexander ancestor here in the U.S. was from Ireland.
That's great you have some info!
No, she's right, it's "Scotch-Irish". Scots-Irish is a modern rendering of it. Why do you think Scotch tape and Scotch Whiskey/Whisky is called that? It's because they're products of Scotland. These people in America were referred to as "Scotch-Irish" or "Irish" and the Scottish people in America were known as "Scotch". It's spelt "Mary Queen of Scots", "Scott" (with a double t) is a surname from the Scottish borders. "Scot" (with a single t) is the demonym for a person from Scotland, "Scotch" is used to refer to something that originates in Scotland like Scotch whiskey, Scotch tape or Scotch-Irish. Please, please think before you chastise someone
The Scotch-Irish farm featured from about 1:29 to 2:16 is part of the Frontier Culture Museum in Staunton, Virginia. It's a working farm, just like the half dozen or so other farms on the museums property. Really cool to see it featured here.
I live in the Shenandoah valley and didn’t know about this place thanks!
My family and I visited that museum a few years ago. It's beautiful and very educational! I highly recommend it!
I was surprised to find my highest ethnicity on ancestry was Scottish, but my family has deep roots in Northern Alabama, and Northern Arkansas, with multiple Gaelic and northern Anglo Surnames, with the majority of family still living in the southern backcountry today!
I get my Scots-Irish ancestry from my Grandfather. He scored over 70% Scotland on his DNA Test. From Western Pennsylvania
The American term is “Scotch-Irish.” “Scots-Irish” is a recent form, only a few decades old, and a bit pedantic, in my opinion. The British term is “Ulster Scots,” as others have noted.
For more on this subject, read The Scotch-Irish by James G. Leyburn.
Queen Elizabeth, 1533-1603, coined the phrase Scotch-Irish. And she was painting with pretty broad strokes even back then: she meant primarily the McDonnells who had fought their way into Antrim from the Hebrides (their base), and holdings in the west of Scotland. The McDonnells were Gaelic-speaking Norse-Irish whose might, like England's later on, was based on their navy. All the Scots and all the Irish McDonnells are decended from this Hebridean clan. Ironically, the McDonnells, who were hugely influential in bringing Scots into Ulster - Protestant Scots - were themselves Catholic. And they remain Catholic to this day. But when Queen Elizabeth was fretting about the "Scotch-Irish," she was talking about the McDonnells and their Scottish kinsmen pouring into the country. The McDonnells were often at war with the English and Scottish crowns (the Jacobite Rebellion in Scotland in 1745 was led by the MacDonalds, and was the last time the clan waged war on a foreign king). But given the turbulent history of Ulster, warfare between England and the Gaelic clans in Ireland and Scotland - leaving aside the violent lifestyle of the Reivers and the clans themselves, and all the religious strife gripping Britain and Ireland, it's no wonder that loyalty to the British Crown became a valuable currency in the North of Ireland. It's how you keep your land! Anyway, that's the origin of the term Scotch-Irish. Scots-Irish is the librarians' version.
Ulster Scot(s) is the preferred term by historians and genealogists today. A general search on publications can easily prove this. Scotch-Irish is a term that was very popular in the 19th century that survived till today. In the 20th century, Scots-Irish became more preferred to Scotch-Irish, with the argument being Scotch is Whiskey from Scotland and a Scot is a person. The further reasoning behind "Ulster-Scot(s)", most did not marry any Irish being staunch Protestants!
I spent a summer in NC. Many of the folks there had ancestors from Scotland or England. Some both. Was cool
❤So proud ! So deeply proud of my ancestry both Scot / Irish / Ulster / and Welsh ! Strong , independent , tough ! We gave birth to the spirt that became America ! And if anyone wants to argue that , we’ll fight ya fir it ! It’s what we do ! 🥰❤️🥰❤️👍👍❗️❗️❗️❗️
My mother’s mother’s family the Polk’s came over in the 1700’s. Scotland to Northern Ireland to the US. The made their way through Tennessee, Missouri to Kosse,Texas. Then Kosse near Waco to North of Greenville near Dallas through the Depression. My aunts’ and uncles’ words, terms and accents sound just like they are straight out of Appalachia.
The best book on that is "The Steel Bonnets" by George McDonald Faser.
My great grandmother got a teaching degree, and her mother (my grandmother) the Scottish were disciplined
Great video Billy Ray! I think it's time to drop the "Irish" part and just call them Scottish Americans, since they are not Irish, but rather Scottish. In Northern Ireland, they call themselves Ulster Scots, not Scots-Irish, which is an American invention.
Um, what? Lol. They are called Scots-Irish because of the two mixing together. The Ulster Scots have Irish DNA, so dropping Irish is literally dropping half of what makes an Ulster Scot. It's a term that came from science and you are referring that we become ignorant on the topic because Northern Ireland still refers to them as Ulster Scots. It's a generational mix between two ethnic groups so it's a disgrace to suggest we cut half of that out.
@@michaelvance4492 You're wrong Michael. The Scots-Irish are called that because they are Scottish settlers who settled in Northern Ireland, not because the two mixed. Also, the Ulster Scots were constantly at war with the native Irish population, so there was no mixing between these two enemies. Also, the Protestant (Presbyterian) Scots and the Catholic Irish would never mix also because of different religions.
The term "Scotch-Irish" can be roughly traced back to an old Southern historian if I remember correctly which stuck, but largely remained as an academic term until recently when people discovering their ancestral roots began to use this term more regularly. Unfortunately I can't remember the historian's name.
This term has actually confused some people to think that they have Irish roots in line with some distant passing down of knowledge within their family that they came from Ireland, which was more than likely Northern Ireland in the Ulster migrations to America.
However, the term has stuck and as such makes sense if viewed with understanding. A lot of people, especially present day Scots lash out at the "Scotch" within the term but there is evidence of the term Scotch being used in Ulster. It wasn't an American invented term.
@@michaelvance4492 when the ulster Scots came to Ireland, a lot of them were there to deter the Irish around ulster from trying to take their land back. The border reivers became ulster scots because both the scottish and English governments at the time were sick of their constant raiding and figured if they sent them to the recently re-settled ulster, they'd be able to keep the Irish back. There was a scottish settlement in county down a few years before that but it might as well be from the same time period and a lot of ulster Scots moved into County Down anyways.
However it is likely that at some point, they were mixing with the Irish but this probably wouldn't have happened right away and they were known as ulster Scots right from the beginning. At this point in time, it'd be silly to assume the Scots and the Irish DIDNT mix after this long, but thats not where the term comes from
@@michaelvance4492 Yes but we won't claim the Irish part, just the Scottish part!
You've made a exllecent point. It's always been difficult to be Presbyterian without knowing how to read. In my own line, members couldn't have had careers calling for a educated background without knowing how to read at a minimum.
Love this history! We are trying keep this history alive in our videos too! Especially Appalachian!
Some of those Scots-Irish from the borders were originally Irish from Dumfries, Galloway, or the Borders. I am happy you have included McCulloch’s Traders trail (the northern most branch off of the Warrior’s Trail) but south of Braddock’s Road. It was my 5x great grandfather John McCulloch, who pioneered that route. He first traveled from Pittsburgh to New Orleans on the eastern Mississippi basin and sailed back to the Philadelphia area checking the geography before moving his family to Old Fields in the valley of the South Branch of the Potomac!
Most Southerners are actually of English ancestry. While it is true that "Scots-Irish" Americans are most common in the Southern US, the English ancestry is still much more prevalent
i think im not sure i have mcculloch in my ancestry too, if not by "blood" then by adoption, my grandma was adopted and i dont know if this is her adopted lineage of biological
Great video. Jim Webb's book, Born Fighting, tells more of this story.
Thanks for posting.
I appreciate your video, it's good information. Would you consider making another video about the Boarder Clan's who went to Edinburgh on ships such as the St. George steam ship for example. They often went to Canada, sometimes if the journey became troubled, they were held at a Hospital on a Island off the coast of Canada. Many tried farming in Canada. Some continued to Kanass and some went on to other areas.
My ancestors were Scots-Irish. They fought natives on the frontier. My 4th great grandfather was Capt. Alexander Hamilton of Pine Creek and he wrote the Pine Creek Declaration. My family fought along the Susquehanna River.
He was killed by Indians in 1781
@@Gary-bz1rf Well...more or less.
The name it's self was from Leicestershire however BEARERS of the name came established in Lamacshire Scotland
These are my people! My family came from Scotland in the mid 1700’s and settled in south, central Kentucky until the depression when they moved to the cities for work.
According to one relative who researched family history, my mother's folk, Kirklands by name, were Scotch Irish coming into the Colonies through Maryland in the late 1600's. As the family grew they moved into Virginia and the Carolinas. Eventually my Mom's branch settled in the area around the town of Selma, Alabama Territory, after the Dancing Rabbit Treaty and into East Central Mississippi after the Civil War.
It is known that one of my ancestors served with Lighthorse Harry Lee in the Revolution and many fought on both sides in the Civil War.
You made the mistake of saying Scotch for Scottish descent. That is a famous whiskey. Or Scotch pudding or hop scotch or butter scotch.
@@marktrail8624
So sue me. That's the way it sounds when it's spoken. Sorry, me Irish musta reared up. Just kiddin'.
There were as many Scots Irish who entered the Appalachians via Charleston, SC as entered from Pennsylvania...
I am Ulster Scot from my dad's side. My dad was from PA. I am from NJ because when my dad met my mom (she is Italian), they moved to NJ and had me and my sister. I'm a Laird by surname and very proud of my Ulster Scot ancestry. My 4x great grandparents are the ones from Ireland and most of my other relatives, all the way up to my dad were (and are) Scottish. My mom's side is Italian, mostly from Umbria, Rome and Sicily. The only other ancestry I have is my dad's mom (my grandmother), who was Romanian. So all together I've got Ulster Scot, Italian and Romanian. I am very proud of all my ancestry but something about the Scot-Irish music hits me like the others don't (maybe a little the Italian music too). I like bagpipes and I love the Highland coo! My tartan I wear ( a scarf usually only) is for the Sinclair clan as I believe the Laird surname has no clan. It's my favorite colors of blue and green (with a hint of some yellow) plaid. It's a pretty big scarf so I wear it like a shawl when I'm at home and it's cold. I love my heritage and am thankful to my relative as far back as I know and even beyond that that they came to a land where they could be more free and I had lived and grew up there. I moved 4 years ago to Turkey but I never forget my heritage. It makes me who I am.
cool, another ulster scot in NJ :) we are rare. I believe most ulster scots stayed in PA or traveled down the Appalachian trail and settled south. my maternal side is scots-irish from NC but my maternal grandfather moved to NJ in the 60s and I was born and raised in NJ. on a related note, my husband is italian from south philly.
I'm 76 percent Scottish Irish Welch. My great grandpa was from west Virginia was Scott Irish
Same 73% according to DNA, my ancestor was born in Northern Ireland and signed the Declaration of Independence.
Recently found out my heritage (I was adopted as a child, so what I was told was inaccurate), and some of my heritage is both Scottish and Irish, so I'm wondering if some of my ancestors came over during this particular time period.
Interesting video, with a decent amount of info. Looking forward to learning more about my potential ancestors.
My family came this route from Ireland.. we traced them back to the early 1700’s in Ireland then each generation their descendants were born more west.. Virginia, Ohio, Illinois then Kansas is where they stopped and have been for over one hundred years
We all are "Heinz 57's " when it all boils down to it. My mother's paternal line was MacPatrick from Argyll, the Cowal peninsula to be exact. Her maternal line was Forster from the Middle marches of England, who may be English one day and Scottish the next. My dad's 2 lines came from England and Wales. Along the way there are traces of Cherokee,Norse, Northern Italian and a "dash" of German. My feeling is, it is good to belong to an ethnic group but we all bleed red, walk on 2 feet and closely resemble each other. I'm proud of my British Isles heritage BUT at the end of the day I am still just a human and one of God's many children. Long live the Scotch-Irish
My folks called me a "Heinz 57", however my mother's family called themselves Scots-Irish....and they are Donaldsons.
You're all related to Al Gore's wife?
Long live the fighting spirit!
My folks came from Bavaria Germany in 1749. Landed in Pennsylvania and settled down in the wilderness of eastern Tennessee. What is now called Horse Creek, Tennessee on the edge of Smokey Mountain National Park
Excellent explanation in just 4 minutes. Well done Billy Ray.
I'm proud of my Celtic name sirdonovan from Ireland Wales Scotland
@Megalodon Unlocked well I am black
@@sirdonovansmith2457 then you aren't celtic
My family 1st came over on the Mayflower, and by 1700, they were all here, from Scotland, Ireland, Wales, ❤
Love this history. We try to tell it too!
The struggle off the Ulster Scots was tough. Sometimes their heart would achy breaky.
We researched our history and family tree and found out my ancestors were Scottish but came from Ireland.. pretty crazy cause I never knew and it’s half my DNA
It's a common story. The Scots-Irish identity quickly absorbed itself into the American identity after war of Independence. Many Americans today may believe they are Gaelic Irish because their ancestors emigrated from Ireland or may believe they are English as many Scottish Lowland surnames are perceived as being Anglo.
To think half of my ancestors walked the Appalachian trail.
This is my grandmother's maternal line and my grandfather's paternal line..plus more. Proud of my heritage!
Wow, now I know. So many red haired & blue eyed people running around my Appalachian town (including my daughter). This combo is only 1% of the world population. No surprise the vast majority of red haired/blue eyed people come from Scotland.
Redheads are very common in the highlands and East coast of Scotland.
You should research the Carolina road, which led from Philly, through Virginia, and then down to the yadkin valley as an alternative path.
interstate 81?
Although Scotch is an adjective used to describe people from Scotland, most people from Scotland prefer being called Scots or Scottish. The term Scotch is now mainly applied to food and drink e.g. Scotch whisky, Scotch eggs.
The Scottish and Irish have an indomitable spirit. Fighters to the core.
I'm Native American (Cherokee) these Anglo-Saxon wannabe settlers that are occupying Appalachia need to go back to the plague infesting continent that is Europe.
All books that I have read said that Ferguson's men were loyast mostly Scottish.He was the only Britt.Over the Mt. Men mostly came down the Wilderness Rd. from Pa.,Md. & VA.
im a canadian highland scot with mothers side from scots who settled in mass and came to canada after the revolution and some moved back
That's my family's journey. Came into port at Philadelphia and lived in York PA for a time. Then migrated to SW Virginia and set up a blacksmith's shop.
Warning TL;DR: There were a few Native Irish who ended up with the Scots-Irish early on (1680s to the 1720s and after) I'm sure that wasn't planned ... but life just throws you around sometimes, especially back then, especially if you were Catholic and Native Irish ... you eventually just had to blend in if you wanted to own land, get married and there were ZERO Catholic Churches around ... after a while you just "get busy livin' or get busy dyin'" . I believe my own Irish ancestors were fallout from Cromwell and were shipped off to Barbados AFTER their lands were confiscated. Then in Barbados they had to learn English (they only spoke Irish in western Ireland where my family was from (Connacht or Connaught) after being practically a slave and learning English ... if they survived, mine obviously did, they moved to Montserrat had earned a living any way they could and jumped to Maryland as fast as they could. By this time they are English speaking and Protestant (at least faking it as protestants) We've struggled with the "Church" thing in my family and I believe it goes back to this time. (My great grandpa said his church was "on top of a hill and under a tree" whenever he felt like he needed "church" and "church" to him was just himself speaking privately to "the Lord") We have this huge distrust of Churches in my family but your mileage may vary. Belief is one thing, Church is another. Anyway they obviously met up with Scots-Irish on the "trail" and headed right down the Scots-Irish wagon road through the mountains and in the valleys of Virginia and ended up in the Piedmont (Danville, Virginia in our case) by 1745. So not all Scots-Irish are completely 100% Ulster-Scots ... just sayin' ... some are blended with actual Native Irish ... after they were enslaved, taught English and converted to Protestantism. Contrary to popular belief ... this actually happened. See the book: To Hell or Barbados.
If you're interested in the connections between the Scots and the Irish you should Google Gallowglass.
Until the 9th or 10th century the word "Scot" meant an Irish man. The Scots invaded what is now "Scotland" came from N. Ireland. I had a "light" Dna Ancestor search done and among other sites I came back 28% Scots or Irish. They can't tell one from the other.
The Irish from outside of Ulster are tribe of Dan.
@@ulsterscotsman6648 Very true ;-)
A friend of mine who is originally from Ireland told me that the Scots and Irish are basically the same people. I am inclined to agree with her on that.
My ancestors on my mother's side hailed from the island of Jura, Scotland. They were part of what was known as the Argyle colony in the Cape Fear River Valley in North Carolina.
Please Billy Ray -- don't break my heart!
I love history
Lowland Scots-Irish here. The family settled in Western PA in the mid-1700s. Most of the Walker family settled farther South and had a rough go of it with the Cherokee.
Beautiful Spirit 👍
My family Cherokee Scots-Irish Scottish Highlanders London KY God Bless Just Saying ...
Such nice warrior garb. Anyone know the factory they used? Halloween will be here in no time. It’s July already. 🙂
Whats the name of the fiddle music? I love it. Please let me know
Irish ....
My ancestors were German speaking Loyalists; served in Butler’s Rangers. Had to leave town when the Revolutionaries won out. Later a Battle on their farm ( Battle of Crysler’s Farm, Nov. 11. 1813) sent the Americans back home after attempting an invasion. A force of British regulars , Quebec Voltigeurs and Mohawks sent them packing ! History is fascinating !
I'm of Scots Irish origin. I learned white collar workplace tactics almost the same exact way.
And they were brought out of the backwoods by manufacturing jobs that boomed after WWII...my moms daddy was a millwright at ATT...my daddy's daddy was a sales rep at Emerson that sold machinery part's to different plants around the nation....in 2000 to 2010 more and more plants started closing down and outsourcing to China, Mexico etc...and construction is slowly going to Mexico...and people wonder why the off grid movement is getting popular...or going where the money seems to be traveling
Being half Cheyenne half Scot Irish I finally feel at home in TN.
THE EARLY HISTORY OF APPALACHIA John Fitz - put the relationship between the Ulsters and Cherokees a bit differently!
this is a good video..check out the whole documentary..it explains alot about how us hillbillies played major roles in the makeing of america..alot of people have the wrong impression of us mountain folk..true we definitely dont talk like everyone else but that just adds to our individuality..im from the mountains of northeast Tennessee & so very proud of that fact..we are a strong,hardworking,kind & fair bunch..we have tight knit community's that believe in god & guns..if you dont value what America stands for,then this isnt the best place for you..we will just keep right on being a simple bunch of people & enjoy our little slice of heaven without you..those of you that do believe in the American way,well,"ya'll come back now,ya hear"
I’m proud my Scottish heritage
McColgin(gan) & Lyle on my side come from Ulster. But immigrated in 1776 to PA.
The City of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania was basically created by the Scot-Irish. And Fun fact: Pittsburgh IS the largest city in Appalachia.
Interesting but I don't like how the History channel seems to portray southerners and Billy Ray is really laying on that southern draw.
he is from flatwoods kentucky
As a southerner, Billy Ray Cyrus is simply talking like a regular Southerner. Don't know where you're from but we natives talk this way and it's not "laying it on".
@Many Different Things Very well said.and very true....A lot of Yankees don't understand that there's no such thing as a "cookie cutter" Southern accent..They ignorantly think that all Southerners talk like the ones they see on some Hollywood produced bullshit show or movie, where the actors use a phony Hollywood coached accent and the character using it, is either dumb as a rock, crooked as a barrel of fish hooks or is some moron sitting on the front porch playing a banjo!!!
Retro Fan I am a Texan and the older I get the less inclined I am to cut back my accent for anybody. Billy Ray can speak as he likes.
By the way, it’s DRAWL not DRAW.
@@49carol Retro fan would really hate hearing this hillbilly talk.
If toughness is genetic, how do you explain your daughter Billy?
Miley is Satan spawn
@Straight White British Protestant Mighty fighters with the british army to hide behind
Ryan Taylor b lol
@@dannyboy5517 get over it IRA scumbag, did the brits not come to defend your lot from being sent back down south?
Not tough. Just evil. Selfish and his spoiling created that beast.
Webb, Bailey,Banks and Grandstaff- English, Scottish and German/America what a blood line no wonder I like tea in the morning and beer in the evening 😊
Some of my Dads folk be from Lothian. Though. It bears more research. Sure would be great to kniw how my people came by way of to America. There's Irish here too!
Its be neat to go where they that brought me here walked and lived. I wonder if there's anyone that would be akin to me?
#bucketlist #Ireland #Scotland #Pilgrimage
The highlands of Scotland and the Appalachian mountains are both part of the same mountain range geologically! They became separated over time with continental drift.
The Scotch Irish were all literate. They had the highest literacy in the English colonies. The Presbyterian churches believed you had to be able to read and understand the Bible. Most did not stay in Appalachia but moved to Illinois and other Midwestern states where they founded dozens of colleges including Indiana University, Purdue, the University of Illinois, University of Missouri and scores of private colleges. They were not the ignorant folk this video makes them out to be. Those remaining behind founded campuses as well. This portrayal is unfair.
Yep.
My ancestors came from Antrim. Fought in the Revolutionary War. Recieved land Grants for their service. Then donated a huge part of it to help found the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
If you do an ancestry trace you will find you are most likely the third or fourth generation of Americans. And no, your ancestors did not cross the Cumberland Gap from Virginia into Kentucky and Tennessee with Daniel Boone. By the time your ancestors came the roads were built, the land taken, so the moved on at the turn of the 1900's.
We are called Scots, not Scotch. That's a drink
@@michaelvance4492 It is not a noun, Scotch is an adjective meaning to or from Scotland. The modern usage Scot, Scots, is now used in place of Scotch. The change may be because they did not want that magical elixir known as Scotch to be be used by anything else.
@@s.leemccauley7302 Interesting. My ancestors from Orange/Chatham County, North Carolina...Edwards...put in a proposal to donate land for that very North Carolinian University at Chapel Hill from reading documents (if I remember correctly, perhaps they offered to sell rather than donate) and the proposal was passed over for another...which was likely that of your family.
Ulster Scots were people of the south of Scotland given little choice by their own government officials (Hugh Montgomery, James I of England) to relocate in a slow attempt to reform Catholic Irish to Protestantism. It mostly backfired, being they never belonged there in the first place and began to immigrate to the colonies about 3 generations later. Those very people whom immigrated to the new world are the very core of the American Revolution who forced the British into a surrender.
It didn't "backfire" at all. They left Ulster because of the success of their role in British establishment, i.e. as Ulster was settled, British law was established-with that the Established Church, and non-conformists / dissident Protestants were under threat from the Anglican / Episcopal Church. The plantations paved the way for future American colonist projects and continued British colonialism around the world. Ulster might not have turned Ireland Protestant but it was a vital foothold that kept the British there up until the present.
Protestant Ulster is still there and the Scots-Irish living there have become some of the worst people in the world. Even the other Brits hate them now, they commonly fly Nazi flags outside there houses.
@@Gamenetreviews gee sounds like trumpists
@@melreb74
Often the same people, much of the ultra conservative rural deep South is Ulster decent.
@@Gamenetreviews what utter shite you're talking, Nazis flags are commonly flown by Protestants in Ulster, wtf are you talking about 😂
I am here because I'm interested in the connection between the Irish/English/Scottish accents and the evolution into Southern accents and other American dialects. Any further recommendations for this study?
@@Gary-bz1rf I've heard people call fire, Far. And Far away, fur.. what's up with that?
Start looking into English Dialect in England, more specifically Sussex and West Country
My Grandmother was born in 1905 on a farm in Western Pennsylvania.
My people went to Northern Ireland then headed over to Nova Scotia...then to NY. My Grandpa was one of 22 siblings......if you are a McCann, we're probably related!!
Somebody please correct me: Why don't we hear the vocal accent of the highlands in the speech of modern Appalachia? If it's there, what areas? Post an example...
I thank god for my hillbilly roots poor but free
Jeremy Salmons its a way of life
Hillbilly means the supporters of King William during a war in Ireland. It was actually originally an ethnic term for the Scots-Irish.
I have my paternal grandmother's family history back to 1302ad, they were Scots-Irish. My father's dad came from Germany as well as my maternal grandmother's side. Yes, I have a red tint to my hair and if I get mad I have a blackout temper, I hate getting this way, for I don't know or remember what I do, It takes alot to get me mad, but I get PO'd alot. There is a big difference between getting mad and peed off. I also have Blackfoot Indian on my dad's side and Cherokee on my mom's side. But all in all, I'm part parakeet, part woodpecker, Part Blackfoot, part Cherokee, but 100% AMERICAN.
The topography of Scotland and Appalachia is similar because they were once part of the same mountain chain.
I would like to know and to research when they arrived why were they known as wild hordes?--What in their history accounts for that--there must be things that we are not being told.
On Ancestry, I discovered I have Scotch-Irish heritage in one branch, but the weird thing is, they were from the highlands and I am still trying to find out when they moved to Northern Ireland, all I know is that they came to the US in 1840. Can anyone help me out how many Highlanders moved to Northern Ireland? The last names were, Campbell, Tosh, and Blair.
By and large, the Highlanders never migrated to Ulster, Ireland. Most of the "Scots-Irish" came from the Lowlands of Scotland. I would guess that your family was probably a victim of the Highland Clearances since they came to the U.S. around 1840. Read up on the Highland Clearances (late 1700s to early 1800s). These Scotsmen went straight to the U.S. from Scotland and bypassed Ireland entirely.
I shouldn’t be surprised at the inaccuracies since this is from the history channel (oh the irony)
many many of these ulster scots would still have been full scots having lived in ulster a few years or even months then moving to amerikay. not forgetting the earlier scots who started arriving in the late 1500s
There was admixture between the Scott's and Irish.
I know for a fact that my bloodline came from Duncan's landing in point Reyes California.....
He conveniently forgot that a huge portion of Scots-Irish went directly to Dallas Texas (Port)
Bell Clan lass. Appalachian grandparents came North during the Great Migration. Seven kids and now were everywhere. The "uncouth hoards" built this country, with their bodies and their minds
Im Scots-Irish that ended up in Salisbury, NC Rowan county.
Does anybody have difficulty with pronunciation like I do? Ive always felt that I'm speaking the wrong language.
My family arrived in Philadelphia in 1763 their name was Ramsey.
The Protestant Scots-Irish migration extended to the NC/SC border. Most people don’t realize the southern Appalachians continue for a bit just over the border, slightly north of Traveler’s Rest, SC. The map shown is definitely. Incorrect. This is same area where the Cherokee Trail of Tears began.
The correct terminology, Ulster Scots!!!
I'm from the lowlands of Scotland and the soil ain't poor its rich one of the greenest places you'll see
This may be interesting to some: After Culloden, many Scots left due to persecution, esp in the Highlands, by the English. My relatives traveled to what is now known as Republic of Ireland as they were Jacobites, and of course,Roman Catholic. So they were Scots-Irish even though they were NOT Scots- Irish. Lol. Later, they settled the coastal areas of VA, NC, and SC. My relatives were mostly fishermen and oystermen. In Tidewater (VA/NC in particular), the original accent (Tidewater brogue) reflected an Irish lilt and Irish pronunciation of certain vowel sounds. My generation is probably the last to exhibit it. Mine comes out only when I’m nervous as I went through public speaking training to tame it. It’s a true southern accent that isn’t recognized as much as the others.
They weren't Scotch-irish, but Irish or Scottish. Ulster-Scots are very distinct from that.
I married into this clan and they NEVER gave up their need to fight.
The Royal Proclamation of 1763 is still quoted in land claims o day in Canada
Are there still areas of Scotland that are like the Applachians? Places where they live old school and dont have electricity and do everything for themselves? And know how to make stuff and grow stuff and live independently? I like to learn about all this stuff.
just get some stuff then
go get some stuff.
They're not known as Scotch Irish in their homeland, they wouldn't want to be associated in anyway with being Irish.
Their from Ulster and they regard themselves as British