What They Don't Say About the Massacre of Glencoe
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- Glencoe... one of the saddest, yet most beautiful places in Scotland. The Massare that took place there is often misunderstood, so Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey, takes you to the National Trust For Scotland Visitor centre to understand the history.
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You are good counsel.
Congratulations on 100k subs. I hope your hard work is paying off. With admiration and respect from a Kiwi of Scottish heritage on both sides.
Is queen Elizabeth II, related to William of orange ?
@@jamiemcdonald1904 Not a blood relative. He was married to Mary II (of England), James II's (of England - James VII of Scotland) daughter. They had no children. Mary died young at age 32. When William died, her sister, Anne, became Queen and shortly after, the first monarch of Great Britain.
Excellent. Again. A+
It enrages me greatly that, as scots, we have to scrimp and scrape and search endlessly for content like this. Informative and educationally factual stories about our own history. It's shocking and culturally abhorrent that we are not taught our own history in our own schools. Scots should be told these stories as part of our education curriculum, not some watered down modern British history that totally excludes our own backgrounds and vast vast rich history. Good on you for bringing a light these stories in video.
The "winners" write the histories and often control the telling or the silence.
The snp don't want scots to know the truth. The truth isn't black and white.
The snp still act as if braveheart was a documentary.
There was not one but two inquiries into the massacre. Much is owed to the investigative journalist of the day, Charles Leslie, a former Church of Ireland priest who became a leading Jacobite propagandist after the 1688 ‘Glorious Revolution’. He was one of a small number of Irish Protestants to actively support the Stuarts after 1688. This is a key moment in British history, as the massacre occurred a year to the day after the Bill of Rights in the English Parliament, which listed individual rights, including the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishments. The Massacre of Glencoe could be described as the "British Watergate of its day" as the trail led all the way to the King under a constitution not too dissimilar from the framework of the US Constitution in which the King / President is responsible for foreign policy and 'commander-in-chief' of the armed forces. May I suggest you read "Glencoe: The Story of a Massacre" by John Prebble.
Except you don't have to ''Scrimp and Scrape''. Always with the victim complex, People will never give it up and will always be something else ''Putting them down''. Get a grip.
@@terrykeever9422 - That's a popular saying, but completely false. If the winners wrote history then we wouldn't know anything like the video covered. Also, if the implication is that the winners telling of history is false, than any alternative versions of history are suspect. Which essentially means nothing can be trusted.
74 year old and hearing the true horror of this event for the first time.
Someone else in these comments said your presentations get better and better and I agree.While all of your offerings are thoughtful witty and compelling some are outstanding.
This was one of those.
At the risk of seeming to be pissing in your pocket I regard yourself to be the finest in the documentary genre. If only there was more recognition of your efforts.
Wholeheartedly agree with you. Bruce deserves more recognition. History lessons in school would be more colourful if they showed Bruce's stories when they got to the Scottish part. Great comment 👍💕💕
Heartily agree. This one is... deep.
Me2!! Could listen to him all day!
Yes, yes, yes, and more yes. There needs to be someone in the education and entertainment systems in Scotland that can make his history lessons into intro’s for history classes. Many of them could literally set the mood about the lesson before the teacher even speaks a word. And then when the video is over the teacher then continues the lesson with the same upbeat, or somber tone that Bruce had. Man that would be awesome.
Well said mate 👌
I visit Glencoe regularly and pay tribute to those who were robbed of their lives. A sadness hangs over the place, but its beauty is immense. Thanks for the video, it struck the tone perfectly.
I'm an Australian McHenry (Henderson), Does much remain of the family ?. They were also wiped out and had married into the Donald's.
Me and my wife go to glencoe every year for Valentine’s Day we always go and pay our respects I grew up knowing the stories as my mum told me them all the time she was always horrified we are McCormacks. It’s a beautiful place with a sad history
@@shaynemc7533 the name Henderson is still very common in Scotland as are all the Scottish names mentioned, none could be completely wiped out as Scotland is a big place with many hard to reach places in the North.
@@jamesthomson7634 100% it's hard enough tracking close family even today.
I'm going to go on a time warp and see where it all began.
On behalf of my ancestors who perished there, thank you 🙏🏼
Excellent explanation of a tragic event. As a Campbell hearing of this event brought sadness, that the clans name was used as a cover for those in power is sad but not surprising. Thank you for bringing Scottish history to life.
As a Macdonald blame u for my ancestors deaths.
@andrewmacdonald3270 just following orders bud. Maybe you should have turned in your oath before the deadline lol
@@mikecampbell1731 Look down at the ground... under your feet. Who will hear your cry when the ground opens to swallow your soul? Taking you into the deep dark abyss? Better now to fall on your knees crying out, "Lord, forgive me please."
As usual, a thoughtful and insightful look at Scottish history. "Plenty of guilt to go around" sums it up well. Power politics and the fate of the little people.
I would've refused to gallows with a song in my heart
I hear you. The so-called little people - hard scrabble, hard working, innocent, good people - slaughtered. A pattern repeated throughout history. We’re facing these same dilemmas once again in the USA and other places.
Bruce, this is your best one yet. Absolutely brilliant and perfectly delivered. What happened at Glencoe was state sanctioned murder, but what followed was state sanctioned propaganda. Which clearly survives to this day. As a half Campbell myself, thank you.
Hamilton was the real piece o' work and evil mastermind in the Glen Coe tale.
Everyone holds the Campbell's as responsible, but he was the real mastermind behind the massacre, and the Campbell's but his tools.
Masterful telling of the tale Bruce.
One of our biggest strengths and weaknesses as Scots, is we can hold onto grudges for a very very long time.
"I was only followin' orders"
Still makes you the devil's children.
I think John Dalrymple, 1st Earl of Stair, was just as complicit. Maybe even more so as he was Secretary of State for Scotland and the one who spoke directly with the King on these matters. He absolutely hated the Jacobite clans.
You are such a passionate narrator. I love this channel and the history you share. My wife and I both have ancestors from Scotland and we love this channel.
My first introduction to the Glencoe Massacre was when i was very young. At Hogmanay at family gatherings. The oldies would sing and one of the songs was The Massacre of Glencoe. To this day i remember every verse, it still is a hauntingly beautiful song altho it is about murder. You brought back a great memory of my Great-Granda, who even though having no teeth could sing that song beautifully. Thank you for the upload.
They came through the blizzard, we offered them heat
A roof ower their heids, dry shoes for their feet
We wined them and dined them, they ate o' oor meat
An slept in the house O' MacDonald
Oh cruel is the snow that sweeps Glencoe
An covers the grave o' Donald
An cruel was the foe that raped Glencoe
An murdered the house o' MacDonald
Thank you from a mcdonald Henderson descendant best from glasgow
Thank you for sharing the song with us. I hadn’t heard it.
I too grew up singing the Massacre of Glencoe, one of the most haunting songs I have ever known.
Aye... it pays to be a winner!
Despite its beauty, Glencoe was a very eerie place when I visited. I couldn’t help but feel distant my entire trip.
Wonder why mr McDonald,
There's something about Glencoe that tears through you, rips at the soul. I feel it every time I pass through. I felt it before I knew it's history.
Same...
@@brucemcdonald4372 My father visited Glencoe. He said it was a lonely and desolate place. "Áit uaigneach a bhí ann."
Try visiting Culloden MOOR
As a Campbell I've heard this story a thousand times but yet you make it as interesting as the first. Well done
I am also a Campbell and can relate
We indeed did do it.
I love the way that you re-frame these historical situations to put the viewer in the shoes of those who were there. As well, it makes viewers really think about the present and our place in it. Your storytelling is more than entertainment, it's evolutionary. Thanks Mr Fummey!
You're too kind
What to do when given an illegal order or even an order they know isn’t really correct? A struggle that many soldiers/officers struggle with to this day. Now 23 years into a career I know what I’d do but, ask 18 year me a scared young boy who would be keen to impress, that’s scary.
Brilliant video!!
Aye but that wasn't just sodjers it was Campbells
Well said, it is easier to get the young to carry out the act.
@@pamelaadam9207 did you watch the video? I think the point of it not being just the cambells. Was clearly made
Then the age of recruitment should be 25 at least.
@@pamelaadam9207 Not a very bright remark; did you watch the video? If you did, you've kind of missed the whole point.
I've lived in this earth 52 years, served in UK military seen may horrible things as a medic and my heart cracked and felt shame on the ancestors of the country I love at this video. Thank you sir for making it
You're welcome
Man is the most VICIOUS CREATURE ON THIS PLANET.
The Glencoe massacre was Scot’s killing Scot’s, the English had nothing to do with it.
I and my wife travelled from Australia (2013) and Glencoe history was one big part of my bucket list. (also re-did our 33rd wedding vows in Neilston). Much of the family was lost there, and the family that was not present (lucky) survived and continued to live across the world. I ask my father many years ago, how I got the middle name of Campbell. His answer was short and simple. " So you will never forget the enemy within".
Never forgotten never forgiven, after 331 years.
of course this happened
Ffs. Really???
Kind of unrelated but can i say as a dirty southerner (londoner) i love scotland and scottish people and it was this channel that opened my eyes to the fact all history is imoortant and no ones history is more important that anothers.
The complex and deep moral questions that today’s outstanding offering present are vital and timeless. Thank you for again proving that the most necessary lessons that history can teach are the most uncomfortable ones.
Hence the current attempts to whitewash, or even ban, the teaching of history.
God forbid anyone should be made 'uncomfortable'... else they might object when they are persuaded to repeat past atrocities.
@@Lucius1958 exactly. Indeed it does and will continue while they own the media and many minds.
I have reported this video because of it's hateful content.
@@cuckingfunt9353 You can’t be serious. I suppose you’d make the same judgment of the statement “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
This is the video I was hoping you'd be making. Excellent!
A tragedy well narrated, thank you. This descendant of the Campbells of Argyll was privileged to enjoy the friendship of a McDonald and his family for many years. Shared experience and respect for each other is the way to build a society. And heal the scars of history.
I john I saw your comment my ancestors mcdonalds north of glencoe my grandmother a mcdonalds married a Henderson strong allies together big Henderson was the mcdonald piper at glencoe as a child I had a chip on my shoulder with the name Campbell but in later life it was a wider plot rule and divide and an excuse for the oath being late with the bad weather I'm glad you met nice mcdonalds best from glasgow
@@wboyle9721 , with a name like Boyle you’ll be more Irish than Scottish.
Hi boyle is one of the Scottish clans from Ayrshire kelburn Castle there are two branches of the family related some went to Scotland some went to Ireland from boville in Normandy most of argyle came from Ireland good comment 👍
@@wboyle9721 good answer 👍
This Guy has a lovely voice for listening to and keeping you interested
I’m a Japanese-American. My grandfather on my dad’s side was full Scottish and a Campbell (which makes me one 😅) and I’ve always heard the story but this was just fascinating! I absolutely love how this is framed. History is so complex and never black and white. Thank you for keeping history alive.
Yep. You are a Campbell. 😊
I had an uncle who passed out as a lieutenant in the Argylls before transfering to the Black( The Royal Highlanders) Watch where he was promoted to captain. The battilion was moved to India in 1944 but my late uncle,whom I saw regularily in the 1970s, never spoke of action. So I guess he never saw combat in the abhortive Japanese attack on India which was a nightmare campaighn by all accounts for both sides. My late uncle was born in London but married a Yorkshire lass and lived most of his life there.
How did he end up in a Scottish Regiment ? His mother my late grandmother was Scottish,his father a Yorkshire veteran of the great war, spoke hignly of the Scottish Regiments,so he joined one.
It might interest you to know that the Campbell Millitia( Later The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) were at Culloden in 1746,and not on Charlies side.Argylle men were like the Watch and The Royal Scots from Edinburgh usually on the stde of the crown. The Reality of History is The Bonnie Prince had as many Scotsmen fighting against him as for him.
The Argyll men played a major part in the battle,turning the right flank of the Princes Army and Giving Barrels( The Buffs, The Royal East Kents) a chance to re deploy,from the full force of The Highland charge. The Argylls went on to become one of many famous Scottish Regiments in the British Army,and fought in many of its campaighns as did 'The Watch.'
So your a samarui a cow boy and a highlander
This reminds me of the skittles commercial lol
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As an American Campbell I've heard the story of the centuries old feud betwixt our two storied clans but I'd never heard the story told in this light. Well done Bruce! Thank you for this enlightening perspective. If there is one thing that a life of work, study and military service has taught me, perspective is everything. Once again you have made an otherwise ordinary Saturday extraordinary. Thanks for the time you put into telling a story about my ancestors, it's quit humbling to be mentioned. Good day from America.
I dunno if its mentioned cus i went straight to the comments first but fun fact, theres a pub in scotland that wont let campbells in to this day :)
@@iamkyleme ….the pub at or just past Rowardennan. Loch Lomond
Then there's the Macintosh apple feud
@@beingagainstfascismisagood104 i aint heard of that one before, i know what im googling tomorrow now :)
Away with ye ya turncoat
Loved this video and how it highlights that nothing has ever changed. The same things are going on today, and they're in the news being talked about by millions of people who are blind to the parallels. It doesn't take murder/massacre/slaughter to be like this event, it takes tyranny, and fools justifying their immoral actions by the old canard "just following orders".
And yet. Watch it again, and ask yourself what you would do.
@johnlow4064 why on earth do you think I would say I'd do the same thing? that's idiotic.
@@justinheads5751 I'm saying, if you put yourself in the shoes of those soldiers, where the penalty for not following those orders is death, you have to recognise that they're in a very difficult situation.
Bruce, as a member of Clan Campbell of Breadalbane I say thank you from the bottom of my heart. For far to long have people made us scapegoats and blamed us for the whole bloody affair. Now it is as someone else here said, "State Sanctioned Murder". Thank you for bringing this affair to light. I know the blood will never truly be washed from our hands as a clan, but is there any clan in Scotland that can say they are free from the blood of the innocent? I don't think there is. The McDonald's hands are just as stained as ours are.
Macdonald
"I know the blood will never truly be washed from our hands as a clan , but is there any clan in Scotland that can say they are free from the blood of the innocent?"
This is why I have very, very little tolerance for people ho hold grudges based on events that happend hundreds of years ago.
Not only can the current generation not be held responsible for what their ancetors did before they were even born, but those who hold the grudge very conveniently only mention the things done to *them*.
It's petty self-interest, wrapped in a thin veneir of history.
Correct I am a mc Donald and henderson decendant on my mother's side they came from North of glencoe the Campbell and macdonald would fight over cattle it was not a full Campbell clan massacre of macdonalds there were lowlander scots involved with different surnames the massacre came from higher orders and was a ploy for king william to gain his authority the scottish royals and including Charles Edward Stuart and British royals going back before 1746 have caused more deaths because of power struggles and religion you have nothing to be guilty of peace out
What a pile of crap, sweaty socks.
What a crock of shit to suggest Cambell's had no other choice. I'd suggest looking at people who've
Great video! My ancestors are of Clan MacIntyre, a smaller clan who had ties to both sides, in very nearby Glen Noe. The MacIntyres who served the MacDonalds were pipers by trade, I believe. Anyway, Lady MacDonald was one of the survivors of the massacre and made it over the hills to MacIntyre lands who gave her and other survivors of the massacre shelter and hospitality. Tis possible she got there because a few Campbells looked the other way. According to clan legend, she got frostbite on the journey that was healed by the greatest treasure of Clan MacIntyre, the Healing Stone.
I'm glad the Macintyre's were on the right-side.
My mother's family is also MacIntyre, and my parents, brother, and I are planning a trip to Glen Noe area later this spring. I appreciate learning the history of this area, even the terrible parts. And hello to a possible distant relative. :)
@@HeatherKirksey-ls6gk My mom's family is McIntyre too (the different spelling is inconsequential) My 3xGreat grandfather, Archibald McIntyre, moved to Canada in the late 1700s. He was married to a Campbell. I wonder if the clan left Scotland around the time of the Highland Clearances, which did happen around that time. So many questions I have of the MacIntyre family tree, but so few answers to be found.
My Pops used to say - you can marry a sassanach - but never never a Campbell. This was because the sold out the clans at Culloden.
@@elizabethsullivan7176 My family actually spells it McIntyre too but it's good to check both for genealogical purposes. I think my family left around the time of the clearances too. Though some were in America before that and some came by way of Northern Ireland as well.
A'reyt Bruce. Cracking video again. The location and filming as good as the narrative and presentation. Better than TV. If there is better on TH-cam then I would be surprised. The tale is well covered, so you had a bar to pass, but you cleared it like a pole vault over a high jump. Bit cold though, like when I visited there. You looked like you could do with that soup.
Only at the time of reading your comment did I realise that this video wasn't taken from the telly. I don't think I blinked watching that!
The rage builds inside of me every time I hear this story
Learn to let it go, it was a long time ago . The Romans invaded Cheltenham, we got over it.
Aye... Chill out fella!
If you got as rage-filled about everything, you'd get sectioned.
38 murdered in Glencoe...
but how many Campbells were murdered by the MacDonalds in Inveraray?
How many Chinese murdered by Japanese in Nanking? 300,000.
How many Jews murdered by Nazis in concentration camps? 6,000,000.
But I bet you have no 2nd thoughts buying Japanese or German products... and that was less than 80 years ago!
Not since Neil Oliver have I witnessed such a passionate oration , his ethical self questioning stands alone , absolutely breathtaking , thank you .
You're welcome
Ha, mine still accompany the name Campbell with a spit on the floor. And not just mine. This has resonated down the years. Cheers for your work.
Hell's teeth, Bruce; the presentation on these videos keeps on getting better and better. It is helped, no doubt, by the scenery.
I'm surprised that the mission was kept so secret throughout the lead up to its execution.
Thanks for adding so much detail and nuance to this familiar tale.
I hope that you didn't get too cold on our behalf. Watching this, I was put in mind of Burns' poem "My luve has a red red nose."
Red nose because shes cold 💚😉
I have heard the Glencoe story a hundred times and always the same.
Your research shines a fresh light on the story which I welcome.
Fantastic and interesting.
Ive always been sceptical about the history of the massacre. Too many vested interests. Too many people happy to place the blame on quarreling Scots. It is refreshing to get an honest and well-researched piece on the dilemas faced by those that carried out the atrocity and of their victims. The passion and lucidity of your arguments are remarkable, as are your knowledge of the characters involved. Great work. Keep the passion.
I grew up hearing the Massacre of Glencoe and used to find it haunting and baffling. Thank you so much for giving this story colour and teaching me the nuances of the reality.
Much the same, yet it was the first time I discovered there are always good people. There were plenty of women and children who escaped that valley because some men were disgusted with their orders and looked the other way. Any time something terrible happens there's always at least one tiny moment of humanity that exists somewhere.
Superb telling of an historic atrocity. Measured, well paced and utterly gripping. Just fabulous. Thank you so much from a sassenach who now has a tiny bit more understanding of what drives the Scots.
Wow Bruce, this is masterful storytelling, an incredible presentation of this tragic crime...the nuances, the detail you provide and the shades of grey therein...moves us on from the reduced version of these events
Very well presented.
Thank you kindly!
Brilliant story telling and analysis ... unlike most videos on TH-cam it's not jingoistic, partisan, finger pointing but reflective, thoughtful and invites us to make our own conclusions. SO refreshing and of course fascinating.
The back story to this legendary tale is rich,,compelling. A true historian, you bring out the.inconvenient truths that expose the complexity of the event and the moral choices involved. Faced with such choices today, what would we do? It’s a great teachable moment and you do it like a born teacher. Thorough, well-paced, a story-teller. (Egan K. Teaching as Story Telling.)
Another fantastic video Bruce! Sad to think of all the bloodshed and infighting this small island has had over the years and how many lives have been lost over the ambition and vanity of kings and queens. Your channel would make an excellent running series for television :)
Myself and my grandchildren vist glencoe every year , the glencoe visitor centre is amazing, the first time we visited glencoe i burst into tears its beautiful, i buried my dads lighter on the hills of glencoe after he passed away....thanks for sharing, brilliant channel...are you sitting in the turff House at the glencoe visitor centre...,I remember being told about the glencoe massacre as a child I was traumatized...
At 61 years old you just changed my history, was brought up with the old story that they came in the night and murdered men women and children, did not like the Campbells, now however what you say makes sense, thank you for that, this is what we need more of, the truth.
43 - Was told the same story - but always thought there was more to it than what was told/known at the time. It never made sense to me - but this does make a lot more sense. english kings and their power plays - some things never change.
The phrase "We were only following orders." comes to mind :-(
Very good, and very thought provoking. The over simplification of history allows those in power to scapegoat and avoid blame.
As a Campbell here in Canada, I've had MacDonalds as well as tourists and immigrants from Scotland shun me because of my last name. I remind them that the vast majority of Campbells did not participate in Glencoe. Furthermore, it happened 300 years ago. Holding a son culpable for the sins of his father is shameful, much less for the horrors his distant ancestors committed. Honestly, although I'm proud to have highland blood, and I have always wanted to see Scotland, concern for how I might be treated due to my name has kept me away.
Thanks for this thought provoking video.
Visit Scotland and enjoy the country. Don't concern yourself too much about any anti-Campbell dislike. Most people accept you as you are. I was in Scotland in 2004 and never experienced any problems.
We dont support the Shunning of the Campbells. Time has passed.
It is down to OUR generations to secure a peace between all Clans, i come from CLAN STUART and BRUCE.
If the McDonalds and Campbells are willing to agree to that accord till the end of time. Peace you will have.
@@HRHKingJamesIXofScotland The Clan feuds were always orchestrated by the English overlords.
It's clear who our historical enemy is and nothing has changed in that regard since 1745.
Scotland deserves self government and independence.
Vote Yes for freedom in the next referendum.
Luv and Peace.
@@ianedmonds9191 I intend to come home. Should the clans be in favour of my return. Charles must not be King of Scotland.
i (my scottish celtic blood) was exiled by the English Lords in conjunction with the betryal of the scottish people, well not me, but my doppleganger, James V.
I agree. The enemy has been the same since 1745. Some of us count up each year of that injustice. Someone has to account for it.
We know it wont be them.
I was in Scotland last week. I’m a 7th generation Campbell. They don’t really mind in Scotland. I never had any issues. You should visit
You've just given more insight, details and history about the massacre than the many books I've read., You've taken us to another level that's both thought provoking, educational, and disturbing. Thank you.
First of all I want to say thank you Bruce for all your work. You have a great gift. You mesmerize me with your stoy telling. Being a MacDonald Clanranald I have heard the storys growing up. I have no hatered towards the Cambells either and I grew up eating Cambell's tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches. My uncle Married a Cambell and was ridiculed for it from some family. I have shared this video with my family and im sure my uncle is as much inspired as I am. Thanks again!
Another much-needed balanced account of an over-simplified event. Thank you.
Quite agree.
proud macdonald here- my family’s (and by extent the clan we all descended from) history is long and interesting. this was a great watch
"Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.” It is horrific to know what humans will do to each other.
Bruce, your style really creates a huge amount of emotion in your videos.
“I was just following orders..”, “If I didn’t do it, I’d be killed…”,
“He made me do it..”
All used throughout World history when massacres have happened. Nazis desperately used this phrase, perhaps also Serbian and Croatian soldiers, or Hutu guerrillas.
People used as pawns by others with bigger gangs.
In regards to African nations.. It's important to remember who gave them the weapons and why billions of quite common diamonds are REALLY worth the tens of millions of deaths associated with them. Edit.. more people have died over these so called precious stones than all the wars combined since ww1. In fact.. more bullets have been fired since ww2 than all other wars combined. Who is financing these is ongoing atrocities?
kind of why modern militaries usually have some clause stating that unlawful orders should not be followed.
The defence of only following orders was only removed during WWII specifically in order to be able to prosecute nazi germans
@@kenbrown2808 I am sure that looks super nice on paper.
@@paavobergmann4920 there are still plenty of people who will just follow orders, but it does give an out for people to refuse orders and be vindicated if they are found to be unlawful. wouldn't help if the commander is shooting people, of course, but it gives the opportunity to sit in the brig a bit rather than do something you think is wrong.
Possibly your best video yet Bruce. Informative and thought provoking.
Thanks
I came on your channel by chance, but I’ve now subscribed. Such a thoughtful, factual account. Over the years I’d read a lot about Glencoe, from John Prebble on, but still found new information in this. Thank you - I’ll now be working through your other streams. I’m looking forward to learning so much more.
Magnificent stuff as always Bruce. Clear and accurate information presented in a concise and entertaining way. This should be required viewing,more power to you...
I'd thought I knew what happened at the Glencoe massacre but your personalisation of it makes it so much more real and horrific, it rivalled anything that's happened before or since in the British isles for sheer terror and barbarity.
As a member of the MacDonald clan, this was eye opening. My dad likes to talk about that day and how everyone should hate the Campbells, he needs to watch this and learn a little something. Thank you Bruce. Please don't stop making these videos, I've learned so much about where my family is from. And honestly it makes me want to go back to Scotland more and more every time you post.
If you do decide to return to Scotland, may I suggest you come in the summer? Or July as we call it.
@@Lysdexia we call it the same here in New York haha. And my first adventure was in March, I'll happily choose a warmer month. Especially because Ben Nevis beat me up and I demand a rematch
@@Lysdexia or may before midgey season😊.
It is far more complicated than 'hate Campbells'.. the reason why is because if you have Macdonald ancestry, or Macgregor or any number of clan ancestors, you will almost certainly also have Campbell ancestry. The clans intermarried as power play and political alliances ebbed and flowed. For example. Duncan MacGregor of Glenstrae is a direct ancestor of mine, he was executed along with his eldest son and brother at Finlarig Castle near Killin by Campbell of Finlairig... who was also a direct descendant of mine.
Glencoe.. I am a direct descendent of MacIain, my 12th great grandfather, but I am also a direct Descendent of Robert Campbell of Glenlyon a 10th Great Uncle...
History is very very complicated and if you are a Highlander or have Highland ancestry then you are almost certainly going to have ancestors from all over the Highlands and from many different Clans but almost certainly Macdonald and Campbell as they were the largest and most powerful Clans.
Forgive us, hatred created this situation and only love can heal it. 🙏
Loved how you put it all together and gives great food for thought, knowing more peripheral information .Fantastic in your delivery . Love your take on it❤️
I have followed your videos off and on for a few years. Keep up the excellent work! This video is a masterpiece! You invest this massacre with a unique and insightful soul that is missing from many other accounts. The narrative is polished and powerful, bringing gravitas, respect, and humanity to the many individual players in this awful tragedy. The videography and editing have taken great strides that enhance the storytelling. In addition to explaining why this complex betrayal happened, you ask the piercing question to each of us: What would we have done?! This question remains compelling in our modern lives: What are we doing now in the presence of similar injustice? - Not enough.
I am a lowland Scot, born in Paisely over 60 years ago, but now living in the US. I have visited Glencoe many times. Climbed Buchaille Etive Mor with my father and brother in my youth, and took Dad for a drive through Glencoe one Christmas the year before he passed. I have also been to Inveraray many times, loved the town and the setting, but steadfastly refused to go in the castle, until.... Until I took my American future wife there and she was astonished that I would 'show' her the castle, but not take her inside. I swallowed hard and gave the Campbell's my money.
For those who might want to do a little reading on the subject of this video, consider the historical novels by John Prebble. He also covered Culloden and The Highland Clearances. I have read some criticism of Prebble's work, but I found his books hugely informative and would be interested to hear Bruce's opinion of Prebble's books on the Highlands. It's been forty years since I read them. I need to dig them out again.
John Prebble is an impressive author. You should try Nigel Tranter.
This video is spectacular, stunning camera work and as always brilliantly presented!
As a descendant of a line of Campbells, Glencoe is a damned dark legacy. I'm glad for the acknowledgement that it wasn't only the Campbells!
I'm glad to learn of that as well. It's good to learn that the truth of what happened was far more complicated than the long established myth. I learned today that there's no need for anyone to regard a Campbell with distaste, or for a Campbell to feel guilty. Finally, we can all enjoy Campbell's soup in peace and a clear conscience.
I would of rather of died than take that order and turned against my fellow countrymen
You are a brilliant story teller. Thank you for sharing this content with the world!
Absolutely amazing storytelling. Could listen for hours.
Glencoe valley is one of my favourite places in scotland i definitely will visit glencoe valley . When i tell about the massacre that took place there in 1692 to my friends(here in india) they all laugh and say that only around 40 men it were killed , can't be called a massacre . When you're video came i showed to my friends and they finally understood and felt pity .
Thank you sharing this video :)
Only 40……
I can understand your friends not getting the reference initially because of the many massacres that occurred in India with far greater bloodshed. But yes, Glencoe is a particularly perfidious and sad example of betrayed hospitality.
The place is definitely worth a visit. The glen itself ("glen" means a steep-sided valley in Gaelic and Scots, so no need to add the word "valley" after Glencoe) is starkly beautiful in all weathers.
"Glencoe valley" is a tautology.
I totally get that as Glencoe by comparison to say the Massacre at Amritsar by General Dyer and his men is on a different scale.
Perfect!! I remember going to Glencoe, as a child and my dad told us the story of the massacre. He painted the picture as vividly as you have just done, although his historical knowledge was not as accurate.
I remember one of my brothers - history obsessed since childhood - saying "It wasn't just the Campbells, though" and that notion being largely dismissed by my dad.
I've been to Glencoe a few times since and it is beautiful, but there is something about the place which always makes me feel uneasy. In most places of historical interest, I have to think about the past and conjure images from my imagination. In Glencoe, the images come, even when you try to block them out.
Beautifully written. It seems to be a sad fact that many places with tragic, violent histories are stunningly beautiful. In places like Glencoe, Culloden, Killiecrankie, it almost seems wrong to notice the sheer beauty of the place. It's nearly always man that has defiled these locations though, committing attrocities there.
Glencoe has claimed many lifes itself though, without man's help, which perhaps explains 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆 of the feelings that emanate from those mountains. I'm no poet and would consider myself fairly well grounded in reality but I've heard voices in the moaning gales, even beside the busy, main road and, to this day, I get a feeling of immense foreboding if I walk/drive through Glencoe.
The terrible weather, that can afflict the glen, only makes it worse and, of course, these hideou crimes were commited in mid-winter.
@@2H80vids Yep, I totally get you.
I've only been to Glencoe in the summer months - May to September - and each time the weather has been lovely and yet it still evokes feelings of dread.
I'm not even that sensitive, to be honest. Although, I went to Amsterdam three times before, on the fourth attempt, I managed to visit Anne Frank's house without dissolving into a mess, outside.
Ordinarily, I'm pretty phlegmatic; it's just that some places resonate with me and Glencoe is one of those places.
@@graceygrumble very evocative, my cousins in Lochaber are descendants of the surviving McDonald's, here on the Wirral the site of the great battle of Brunanburh/Bromborough 937AD is largely intact, local author Tom Sleman has written extensively about hauntings around the site,you can read his weekly tales of the occult in the Wirral Globe website, peace and love from the wirral peninsula ,bounded by the mersey and the Dee and the Irish sea ,geography and rhyme...E
Well done and well told, I'm a MacDonald. The story has many twists and turns as you describe, it was cut throat and the fear that then spread afterwards must have been indescribable and truly gut retching!
My wife and I took a hike there a few years back with a guide called Murray Walker. Still in awe of it’s beauty now and would love to go back one day. Thanks for the history lesson man.
Oh my word... the best and most complete description of the Glencoe Massacre I've ever heard..... we all know it was not quite so simple and many were used as pawns by others in power.
To learn of so many other names involved willing and not so willing opens more can's filled with worms of history... but for a simple ordinary man who's clan is Donachie who would my clan had sympathies with?..... for me I can't find out as both Mac Donalds and Campbells had both taken land from my clan, and both had similar agents with allegiances. However in 21st century if you host someone under you roof you do not do them any harm.
Is Donachie the same as Donnachaidh which means Duncanson in Gaelic?
@@ianduncanson2840 I believe so
Thanks for the fascinating information. My father told me years ago that a Rankin or Rankins were killed at Glencoe, but I didn’t know there were several clans represented on both sides. I have read a couple of books on Scottish history, but find it hard to retain information, so your videos are great as you explain things really clearly and in an interesting way.
Love your perspective Bruce.
You're a good man.
Stories that need to be told again.
Keep keeping on.
Luv and Peace.
wow this has open my eyes for sure well done bruce keep it up your the best
Don't comment that often on this platform but as a proud scotsman I really enjoy watching and learning about our history. You do a cracking job of telling and capturing us with your stories. Just wanted to say thank you and keep up the good work.
I found your channel a while back my great grandfather was Scottish and I'm a cree native American and I've been watching trying to learn more of my grandfather's heritage and your videos are helping me learn thank you in my cree language hiehie means thank you.
I am the other way around.
Scottish with a Great Great Great Native American Grandmother.
Nice to meet you.
Coincidently name is Allan too.
A'ho.
Aye nice to meet you as well
@@allenbadge4232 you might even have Irish relatives too, as Dave Allen RIP, the celebrated Irish comic and Bard was wont to say, may your God go with you...the Cherokee nation sent assistance to my ancestors in County Donegal at the height of the great famine...peace and love from the wirral...E
You Sir are absolutely amazing. Please please keep telling us stories. Thank you !
I love how this channel has so many fascinating topics and stories from history that I’ve never heard before. Always informative, well told and entertaining! It makes me more disappointed to not be from Scotland or the UK 😔
When i was 18, i walked the West Highland way. Nothing in scotland impressed me more then the eerie beauty of glencoe and the plain of ranoch Moor.
Such a sad tale, as always told with sensitivity, insight and exquisite images. The notion to me that it was far less a Campbell vs McDonald tale than I had previously heard is fascinating. As to what I would have done, I know what I would have liked, but fear what I would have.
I'm English (born in and live in England), my granddad was a full Scot with the surname Penman from Dunfermline and descended from the Campbell's - he sadly passed before I was born but my mom told me all about this story. It's good that you tell a lot more of the story and the things behind the scenes. I'd love to visit the area. I really enjoy your videos, please keep up the good work
You tell a story like no other,I visited the Glen in the 70 ,it does have a haunting feeling about it.
Brilliantly told as ever. Love your perspective on historical events and the questions these/you raise. Cheers.
Thank you so much Bruce for explaining the truly horrific event in our history that happened at Glen Coe. 🙏Hands up,in my ignorance, I believed that it was just a bloody battle that was fought between Clan Mcdonald and Clan Campbell. Thanks to you Bruce I understand now. Its truly thought provoking, what would of done?. Horrendous. Its coming up , think it's tomorrow, to the 330 anniversary of the massacre.You making this video is a respectful way to mark this moment in history. I'm not a Religious person but I shall light a candle to ALL the men, women and children that lost their lives that day, regardless of surname. Thank you once again.
That is very noble of you Helen...as a fellow Irishman ( Dave Allen) was wont to say,..may your God go with you, peace and love from the wirral..my Uncle Archie RIP was a descendant of the McDonalds of Glencoe...
@@eamonnclabby7067Were they related to the MacDonalds of Glencoe?
Fantastic presentation learnt much from listening and enjoyed..
That was very moving, very thought-provoking. Thank you.
"Let me tell you *THE* story".
There's a certain chillingness to that introduction, given your usual "Let me tell you *A* story" - particularly knowing where the story goes before you've begun.
Superb as always, Bruce; Alba gu brath.
Tapadh leat
Love all the effort you put in to bringing us the complexity of Scottish history! Such contradictions are evidence of humans existing. 🌈💜🏳️⚧️🥚🙏🏽
Thank you for this. The facts behind the massacre are so much more complex and even more painful than the story as I often heard it. Without deconstructing these events, we are even more likely to become enmeshed in similar ones.
Thanks for shedding a bright light on this horrible event!
You're welcome
Congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers Bruce, when I started watching a round April time last year there were only around 16k, great to see the effort you go to to produce these videos being recognised and the stories you share reaching a wider audience.
I loved your perspective on this, has completely changed my outlook on the events. Cheers Bruce!
Well done, you provided a lot of depth to the story..... And made it more human!
Even today you see this dilemma and wonder as it plays down through history and how the powers that be, have and can paint over as well shift some of the truth you spoke about. Thank you for your hard work😊
The cinematography in this video is fantastic. You've really upped your game, mate!
Thanks to Matt Ward
This video like many of your other videos has put me in a place of deep reflection this morning. Thank you for fleshing out the sordid details of this well known historical event. I appreciate the work you put into these videos. Thank you .
Fantastic! 🇬🇧🏴👍🏻
I took a much needed break from social media and deleted old accounts- first thing I did was come find your channel when I came back!! I STILL could listen to you tell stories for days .
Educational and enjoyable as always . You never fail to create thought provoking content. Hope to take a tour with you someday and continue to learn!
Yay
Love your perspectives. Thank you for sharing this content. 🕊💓🕊. Well done. 🥰
Wow! One of your best yet. I know the story, but you have presented it in a way that invites the listener to ask some difficult questions. Great stuff!
As a history these presentations are brilliant, educational, and insightful
Thank you. Good to hear a straight telling of what happened.
The editing and production for this video is such a welcome leap forward. Bruce, this is what your channel needs to elevate it another step further. +1
You are such a powerful storyteller. I literally felt like I was there feeling the horror of the situation from both sides.
Stunning delivery and revelation of the true events . Thank you 🙏 helps to understand the brutality of divide and rule and it is NO different today .