Hasselblad XCD 4/ 45P :: Amazing Compact Medium Format Lens!!
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The Hasselblad 45p is a major step forward in the realization of the XCD system. With the original X1D, we finally had portability in a high-end medium format camera system. While the current trends in lens design seem to be leaning towards sharpness with no regard to price and size, we’ve seen lots of beautiful lenses in the last year that are completely impractical due to the weight and expense. But Hasselblad have given us something practical. Don’t let the size and price fool you though - this lens punches way above its weight in both sharpness and versatility. Bokeh is understated and beautiful. This is lens will be a home run for Hasselblad.
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Just a quick note - this lens will NOT replace the original XCD 3.5/45. Both will be available as options for the 45mm focal length. My mistake ;-)
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Just bought the X1D II and this lens. I did it instead of buying the X2D as I want there to be improvements in that system. I plan to use the camera to take photos of heavy equipment for a national equipment company I own.
pretty impressive how small they were able to keep this lens and the low price is very surprising. it's starting to look like medium format might seriously be feasible for street photography at this point
Can't afford a Hasselblad body, so I'll just buy the lens.
I only have two kidneys, Hasselblad
ALhashimy you think we got 3?// lmao 😭😭😭
Palden tsering sherpa
_Pleas my good sir do not ruin the golden joke_
🤣🤣 fine fine
Ah, but you also have a pair of working nuts 🥜 don’t you? You should be able to afford the camera & two lenses at least, & if you want more, you got an extra lung & an appendix you could also sell! Be creative!
Grow more...DUUUUUH!!!
A used Hasselblad X1-D body from B&H, plus this lens, for less than a Sony A7-IV and any GM lens. Obviously totally different systems, but this will be so amazing for so many subjects (pretty much anything that doesn't move). I'm optimistic that Hasselblad will continue invested in making the cropped medium format a much more mainstream system going forward with products like this.
This was really useful. I'd been eyeing the X1D since it came out, given how much I enjoy the old 503CW film camera. As soon as this was announced, I pre-ordered it, then I started looking for a used camera body on B&H and KEH. I ended up finding an open-box XCD II, the the combination has become my absolute favorite walking around camera! Super small, super light, fast enough autofocus for things that don't move fast, and the wonderful manual focus makes zone focusing for street shooting just amazing! Thanks for the insights here that got me started with this adventure!
This is definitely in the ballpark, possibly early summer, X1Dii with this lens is going in the bag. This camera just feels good in the hands and it must be a joy for a single shot shooter, like me, to use.
Hey Ted !
How about making a program that tests the Sigma SD Quattro/H as an alternative for medium format.
So when we getting the 907x like where is it
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I'm a fuji guy through and through with the x100f & xpro2. Hasselblad keeps tempting me though and this combo just doesn't help resist!
Very impressive images - and I got a sentimental feeling remberring the time when You presented "real" art of photography!
I have been using the old Hasselblad 500 series since the early 80s. Although that camera has since been "phased out" with the advent of the digital age, I some miss the solid Swedish feel that with the modern Hasselblad cameras that I tend to associate with the venerable 500 series. I practically worshipped the 500 CM !
Just a thought, albeit a digression.
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Thanks for doing a video on the new 45. I am exploring the idea of picking up an X1D this year and the lens cost is really whats holding me back. But glad that this one comes in around 1k and seems like a great options.
Yep! Same here. It was either the body with the 65mm or a Leica m10 with the summilux. This made my decision for me. I hope the lens becomes available soon.
I know this is such an old video... however I just was able to pick up a used X1Dii w/ 45p lens from BH for a GREAT PRICE.... It will compliment my R5c for those travel moments when I don't want to lug around a ton of stuff... Really excited to finally get into DMF.
You forgot to link your friends Maggie and Holly :(
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Great review. I’m a big fan of the X1dD and made the move from the Leica SL last December. Historically I have always been a 50mm shooter with the M system and also with the SL. In a relatively short time I developed a relationship with the 3.5/45XCD and found it to be a very versatile and incredible lens. I will be excited to try this new lens. What an amazing price point. It almost seems to good to be true. As I am in line for the 907X, that might make for a nice discreet package. Later!
Hopefully, they continue to deliver affordable options. I would prefer to use Hasselblad for work.
What do you think of the fujifilm medium format vs hasselblad system? It seems that hasselblad design is more compact overall.
Would be interested in that too!
mind blowing gorgeous photos!
Surprised at the price, and hoping it’s a signal that Hasselblad will be working at being more competitive with Fujifilm’s GF series
How far back are you standing for the portrait shots? Thank you!
I’m buying a preowned X1D because of this lens. It’s affordable and compact.
That is a great idea. With X1d bodies in the $3K range, you could be into medium format for a $4K investment.
I question whether there will be a place for medium format digital given the quality of images you can now get in FF or APS-C. The tech that lens manufacturers are using today that makes this lens only cost $1k, is changing the paradigm for professionals. Just as bokeh is necessary for portraits, so is foreground to background DOF for wide landscapes. It all depends on what your interest is. For the latter we are shooting at F8-f16 anyway so F4 is unimportant.
4 years later and stronger still. Medium format will always be niche market or pro use. But the image is not the same as ff. Its not about how many pixels but pixel size, rolloff to oof, tonal spread, colour software etc. In print they look different, approaching more medium format film in some ways.
What would you choose for travel and 'around the house'? X2D+45P (or 38V) or Leica Q3 ?
Great camera and a beautiful lens but lack of support in Capture One is the thing that prevents me from hitting the BUY button.
Thoughts on Phocus vs C1?
I have to use both AND Lightroom unfortunately. Phocus for my Hasselblad cameras, Capture One for all my other cameras in personal and client use and Lightroom for teaching workshops that involve post processing or printing.
I could use Lightroom for all of them but the fact that I use Phocus being intimately familiar with all of them should say something. As a high volume shooter you'd probably not fall in love with Phocus due to all of the things that it doesn't have that make C1 a machine for going through and dealing with 1000's of images. You may miss a lot of "features" that C1 or L/R have but... there is something about Phocus softwares simplisity and effectiveness of just the basics that makes it very attractive to use as a single shot shooter. It's tethering is great, it's curves control is great along with the other basics.
If using the X1Dii or 907/CFV there is some magic about having just the camera, a tiny lens like the 45P (or a 500 and 80 small kit) and ONLY having an iPad or iPhone with you for a weekend or even week long trip with no laptop and no complicated software. Honestly I've had iPads forever but the new Phocus on iPad + my 907 is heaven if you are into pure photography. It's the first time I've actually USED an iPad.
I have a very small messenger bag that has a 907x/CFV ii 50c, a 503 w/ A12, an 80/2.8 a few rolls of film, two batteries, and an iPad that is just fantastic for me when doing personal work or even certain client work that is far far smaller and more fun than my Fuji or Canon kit let alone my "real" medium format kit. I love firing of a few frames of digital then firing of a few frames of film in the same session.
This camera is soo beautiful. Would be difficult to choose between this camera with some old V lenses adapted, or the digital back from the 907x on a 500 series camera.
Considering todays cameras like the GFX 100S it gets even more difficult for Hasselblad to sell, but they're on the right track, i guess...
Better Autofocus, adding zoom telephoto lenses and maybe better Video at 4k 60p 10bit (for a hybrid beast like an a1 or r5) would bring them a lot of new clients.
Clever move on the price. I still think Hasselblad missed an opportunity in not adding a additional shutter into the body. This way, they could offer lenses at f2.5 or less without an eye-watering price. F4 / 45 is about f3.2 / 35 in 24x36 terms, looking at depth of field and field of view equivalence. It raises the question what does the x1d give us compared to, say, a Nikon z7 with the f1.8 / 35. Looks, yes. Exclusivity - check. Image quality - I have no idea. I actually may rent one to see for myself.
Your missing the point here. X1D is about portability and absolute quality, (my) a D850 has a different use, nightscape and sports.
X1D have now the ultimate design because in the assumed future when all shutters will be GLOBAL, than a FP shutter is of no use and the register distance of bodys with FP shutters is a waste of space and not as compact as an X1D design. So the X1D design and lenses is already futureprof, but the GFX system will stand there looking stupid in comparison.
Not quite wide enough for me but looks like a nice lens 👍
The digital image sensor crop factor of the Hasselblad X1D-50c series, Fuji GFX 50S, fujifilm gfx 50r mirrorless cameras is 0.78X. So the Hasselblad 45mm has the angle of view of a 35mm full frame lens (45mm X 0.78).
The f/4 isn't something impressive for a prime lens but medium format sensors have shallower depth of field than full frame cameras.
I checked a DOF calculator and the total depth of field for the Hasselblad 45mm f/4 on the X1D at 3 meters is 1.91m, similar to a full frame 35mm f/4 lens or a full frame 45mm lens at f/6.7
Ted will you include some processing of images in your in depth review?
I understand only Lightroom is available at the moment?
I just did some checking, and this lens and a used X1D original body come in at around $4000. That's pretty affordable, and I'm thinking about it. Not only do I go to place like the Grand Canyon I backpack around in them (currently with a Mamiya 6 most of the time). And weight then becomes super important.
Thanks for the video. For landscape do you feel its superior to a sony a7riv with some of the great lens selection we have?
Do you know of any plans from Hasselblad or Fuji to make a full frame digital 645 mirrorless camera?
I bought X1D with the 45mm 3.5 mostly for nature and travel photography. And now I will have to get the new 45mm f4 because it's both smaller, lighter and sharper. But the problem is, that after this announcement no-one will buy the old one, which is much more expensive - unless I almost give it away. And I will be stuck with two 45mm lenses, of which I will only use one. That is a dilemma I don't like, my money don't grow on threes, and it really was a long term investment when I bought the system, but now that investment doesn't seem so well spent.
I totally agree. Disappointment and temptation at the same time.
Not really, the X1d Camera is still more expensive than X1dii in the current market, although the latter is much much better than the former. You never know, might be still the case with this lens.
Can this handle the 100 Megapixel Of the new Camera ? just wanted your opinion. Thank you :)
Hasselblad X1D ii vs Leica SL2, which one do you think is better for street photography?
I will stick with my Fujifilm GFX50R and it’s 63mm f2.8 lens for my home studio portraits. Great video Ted.
You said you didn’t like how close you were to your subjects when using this as a portrait lens, sooooooo, how close were you? Daniel Norton likes to get close, but I think he uses the 90 on his X1D, & the 50 or 24-70 on his Zed 6.
This lens looks interesting... if it is that much sharper, maybe they are gearing up to release a 100 megapixel version of the x1d... this lense infront of the new sony 100 megapixel bsi sensor is definatly very appealing...
I can’t wait to give this a test shoot at an undisclosed race track.
How does it compare to the GFX system?
Watch the comments about how aspc and full frame cameras have the same quality as medium format 🤣😂🤣😂
My original 45mm lens has HUGE purple fringing that is not that easy to correct in some cases. I wonder how the new compares to it.
Skillsquare, share space? More companies like this! Anyway, great reviews and analysis.
Whats they f4 equivalent on full frame? 2.8?
No difference. F4.
Technik Meister Haha tell that to Tony Nothrup.
Assuming a crop factor of 0.82x (hard to define as the sensors are different aspect ratios so would depend on the delivery crop) this will deliver similar images to a 37mm at f/3.3 on 35mm
@@TechnikMeister2 to my knowledge its not. the DOF at f4 on a MF wont be equivalent to FF AFAIN
@James Monette Indeed, the DoF won’t be the same (multiply the F number by the crop factor to work that out), but change in DoF is a secondary effect of changing your aperture-the primary being exposure.
The amount of light per unit area captured by the sensor is unaffected by crop factor. f/4 on medium format will produce an image equally exposed as f/4 on FF (keeping ISO and shutter speed the same, of course).
I'm waiting for the day Medium Format becomes as affordable as Full Frame or I just happen to get ALOT of money!
which ever comes first
This camera and lens combo reminds me of the original Sony A7r with the 35mm f2.8.
Close but not...
@@paulmikaelpetersson432 They both offer very high resolution, compact design and are both slow in operation.
Even the lenses look very similar.
@@robiulahmed No but no
@@paulmikaelpetersson432 well, what's your take on the X1d?
@@robiulahmed The color is amazing the design in worldclass the iso performans the lens the pict quality. But i think its like a leica. Hard to tell what the difference is but you wont regret it
how much???
A used X1D-50C and this lens make the money aspect more doable.
Those images real nice, but digital medium format is still quite expensive. I'll be patient till it's real affordable.
Very good pictures
Medium format cameras seem to have a very pleasing picture quality and i love the 4.3 ratio i know from my mft cameras. I cant stand 3.2
Hey it's Mari Andrew!!
I get it, Hassleblad has a camera system to match Fujifilm medium format
ya ya ya, anyone can take a good picture with amazing gear
you can thank fujifilm for the changes that will be coming to medium format.
Is there such a thing as a poor lens these days ?
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"P" for pancake :)
$6000 camera?...Yer Nuckin' Futz!!!
You know I shoot Fuji but, these Hasselblads are really calling me...
They are VERY VERY different beasts for very different people and methods. I've been shooting long enough to make anything with any camera but the way you work and how it feels can be very important to some people = me. Different cameras CAUSE me to work differently unless I am forcing it... sort of like work vs play.
You will like the Fuji system if you like a lot of features and use them on cameras. You'll like Fuji if what you want is a company that attempts to bridge the gap in frame rates, focus speeds, etc that the rest of the market chases with 35mm sized systems.
You will like the Hasselblad system if you want design elegance and as few functions as possible presented in the simplest way possible. If you enjoy working with say a 500 series system for those same reasons you will like the Hasselblad digital system and software.
Kind of like the film days the fuji system is more like the Bronica ETRsi vs the Hasselblad 500/V system. Very different for different people. ETRsi or a Contax 645 handles like a 35mm (but looks different). Or say lighting... Godox vs Profoto, all in the U/I and design. Former being kitchen sink thinking latter being simplicity of design.
Otter reviewers Menton the af is slow, but you think it is good?
If you can afford ANY Hasselblad gear, you're not just rich, you're a better league of human....
Being rich makes you a better human? Doesn't sound right
And if You smoke you are a super rich person?
when did 1000 become affordable anywhere like seriously, otherwise ok video.
The 65mm 2.8 is $2750!
And people complain about Leica being expensive.
looks nice but fuji gfx100 looks more intresting
Man howcome the f4 have this much bokeh
Great review Ted. You forgot to include your friends IG handle :)
$5,700 plus $1100 = 6700 $3300 more get the GFX 100 that’s more appealing I’m here to win i’m guaranteed 15 years with thAt
Why would you buy such an expensive camera just to cheap on the lens. Who is this system for.
Do you breath sometimes ? LOL
So interesting. But please speak slower and breath a bit more. Thank you.
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I just got a terrible case of GAS :-)
This lens is 95grams and .9 inch shorter than the original....hardly a deal breaking difference in portability.... as to IQ.... F3.5 vs f4 charts.... would be curious if anyone could see any IQ differences with both lenses set at F4 and F8.... don’t get me wrong, I think this is a great lens at a greater price.... but not enough difference for anyone already owning the 45mm f3.5.... I would have been much happier if Hassy had developed a 35mm f4p (28mm equivalent) .... it would have likely been even smaller and there would have been an argument for owning both lenses....instead of building a lens at a focal length they already have.
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No I'd still never buy such a camera, too expensive simply because you can't use the lenses on your other cameras, in the Future I hope to own the eos r sports camera and the high megapixel camera, would be a better fit for me
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Bokeh as a crutch! Ha!
Finally we get a really portable and practical lens. Already ordered one BUT delivery is due March 2020.!!! Also....as usual.....Hasselblad ran out of battery stock since summer 2019...!!! It is surprising how unreliable Hasselblad stock is...at least here in Europe...
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