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I’ve read Liz’s book and heard her interviewed before but watched this start to finish. You can see how she’s developed as a speaker and is incredibly polished in delivering her fascinating story. Big Phil doing another great job, loving your work. 👍👊
i was in the Engineers that were attached to the marines when Tom Currie died right in front of my face. when she mentioned his name it took me back a bit! love to hear other peoples perspective of the same conflict. keep up the great work!
Fantastic chat Phil, I could listen to Liz again and again. The banter was just great, talking about "Scran" and "Brass evrywhere" just brough back so many memories. Another book sale here.
Wow!! Liz you are a legend and thank you for your service, it is people like yourself that I hold in such high regard for your service. Phil, as always a legend as well and you, Liz and all the many, many, many other servicemen and women are the inspiration that we should all look up to because we owe you all so much. Loved the interview and I will be reading/listening to the books asap
03:58 exactly same here. Left school at 15yrs old, not a qualification to my name. No idea what to do… Now sat here, in my 50’s, (medically) retired Paramedic. If you want it, you can get it.
Thanks Liz. Same for me when I went to get some help. Take these and see you in six weeks! I won’t be about in six weeks!! All not bad now and good to listen to you. Thanks. Adam (Ex RHA). Fist bump to you Phil.
Amazing interview. Phil is smart, is not judgemental and gets the most out of folks. Agree that there should be a period of decommissioning/ demob for anyone who sees action.
Thank you for your kind words! Phil really knows how to create a comfortable space for open conversations, and I completely agree about the importance of a decommissioning period for those who have seen action. 🙌🏻
I am neither a veteran nor a first responder, but this story resonated with me. My family and I have had to deal with very challenging mental health issues and have managed to come out the other side stronger for it. It is something that never goes away, but we have learned to live and thrive! I really appreciate both Phil and Liz's transparency and honesty. You are both inspirations to us all, veterans and civies as well! Thank you so much!!!
Thanks Phil, what an amazing guest, once again !! I served in the RAF in the 80s , a radio operator attached to 244 Royal Signals ( Tac Comms Wing UKMF, RAF Brize Norton ) and our unit supported the Chinook squadrons, mainly 7 Squadron RAF Odiham and 33 Squadron Pumas. I know this is commonly said, but, thank you, both of you for your service to our great nation and for this brilliant podcast. Cheers, Daz, Leicester.
Wow, what an amazing interview. 95 Amitriptyline OD would have put Liz into really nasty cardiac arrhythmias. So glad to hear that you've recovered Liz and hope you've found some peace. Thanks again Phil, this was a really great 1hr and 15 mins. Namaste x
What an incredible women with a mind blowing & at times heartbreaking story. Thank you for sharing your story & for your service liz. I pray that all service veterans will get the help & support they desrve. They are all true heroes.
Absolutely outstanding Liz. So much happened in those 17 years and it took its toll. But as you said, your time was not up. It was a privilege to listen to you on here. Respects
Thanks for such an engaging and relevant discussion. Liz, an incredible human being. All serving and veterans have had impactful and life forming experiences. Decompression training post deployment (if it still happens) I would like to think has helped identifying the in service hand rails, but as you say, what after. Ive been out 14 years and maintain very close friendships that my civvy mates will never achieve or understand. That friendship forms my rock. Great job Phil.
Well articulated Liz... ❤ I hope you made some kind of report to the Home Secretary and the General Medical Council regarding the appalling chain of events you described at being prescribed those drugs and the notable lack of empathy and action of the GP surgery... Keep on keeping on
Whilst the RAF rightly gets 💩 for some of the ridiculous stuff they do it's people like Liz who put it all straight back in focus. The MERT crews were an absolutely incredible bunch of thoroughly professional guys, to my mind they deserve the utmost respect and gratitude.
Dear Phil, I have always had the highest respect for females, but females in the military in a male dominated area, I genuinely admire for proving that they have the true grit and determination to go do the job as well as a geezer. This particular girl is the most incredible beautiful person, her story I can relate to. Although I was only in the territorial army I did more exercises than the Ruperts and some of my training contributed to mental health issues PTSD, and what Liz described and yourself I have suffered, relationship wise and the routine taken from you, is a total head fuck, the military is still in my head but due to osteoarthritis and other medical issues my life is no different to lockdown so I’m a prisoner in my own home. Please send my sincere heart felt thank you To Liz chinook chick for me because she has made me realise what is going on with my life mentally and how crap my doctors are. I solute you both for your service 🫡❤❤
That was a marvellous interview and what a lovely and engaging Doris Liz is, well done. I’m pretty sure, that she’s not a little girl from Basingsmoke though, not with that accent. Will be ordering the book, deffo.
Being ex RAF and fire service I can really identify with a lot Liz says. One minute your are absolutely on the edge next you just another person. I will say this tho for those in the UK there is the Samaritans. Ring them. They are there for you. I work on the railway now you can imagine what that’s like. 😊
Great interview guys. Always have mixed emotions whenever I hear a chinook, strange how some things stick. Good chance she’s giving me a cabbie at some point. Lizs book on the crimbo list.
Her story about how her GP surgery dealt with her ringing just sums up the vast majority of GP surgeries unfortunately, they just do not seem to give a shit.
It’s true that people need a support group I.e. comrades,friends and family. However you need to fight the internal demons and remember tomorrow is another day and life can turn on a sixpence.
This is at least the 2nd time I’ve listened to this podcast and it’s as entertaining as ever, the thing I find hardest to swallow and taking into account the suicidal stuff and the witnessing loss of life from the lads is the way she talks about lockdown. I’m guessing carrying on the military way of following orders. It makes my blood boil what the government did scamming people into this bullshit and who knows how many people died because of this, whether that be just like her carrying pre issues like PTSD or the isolation of this so called lockdown or even the VAST LACK of treatment to or access to hospitals for terminal illnesses. I’m so lucky I ignored the whole scam and went about my buisness as normal, these politicians should be charged with treason. How close she came to not making it gives me the shivers, what a waste that would have been.
Re that 6 months after you leave, when you can pop back into camp for the mess etc. well, some will be there all the time and at the end of 6 months will be back where they started. Gotta do something though.
44:19 “ … got lockdown … “ The suffering caused to her that almost ended in suicide and the countless cases of actual death and mental damage due to the governmental order to impose house arrest upon millions of people was a crime that must be punished. The fact that such measures were in fact to push a worldwide commercial experiment makes it even more heinous.
RE The Hele copter that ditched and lost the door on the Faulklands: Mike Brewer done a show that tracked the history of the helicopter and actually found the lost door in the Faulklands if I remember right. It's years ago since I seen it so details a bit hazy. I'll be sure to buy this girls book. Fantastic podcast.
Had two people I gave all hours access to whenever they needed to talk.. one died about two years ago from health issues (I wear his division insignia on a ball cap for the minor league hockey team I'm involved with to honor his memory) and am still in touch with someone who was in the trailers in Dharhan when the SCUDs hit in 1991... she's doing much better now. Also have a friend in the UK who has PTSD from being blown up twice in AFG... The main thing and most important step is realizing that help is needed.. and talking to someone..
I 100% agree more needs to be done when lads and lasses leave the army there needs to be more done from the individual regiments I left about 6 months ago and havnt heard a word from anyone I used to work with other than the lads I was close with luckily but nobody in the unit gives a fuck about you once you’ve left and that’s quite sad considering one minute your sat in in a field in the butt fuck middle of knowhere having the time of your life together to absolute radio silence it’s a real shame
What an amazing person great stories the Falkland bravo November years ago I watched a documentary with Mike brewer the wheeler dealer guy he was on that helicopter and if I remember correctly the pilot got shoot while taking off and he flew the helicopter back to base I think the pilot was ok turn out he had been shot in his head I think that’s right
I heard a story from an ex Sea king crewman ,and at the beginning before they take off ,they'd hold a ceremony were they'd bless the nut that held the rotor blades on ..
Your experience is exactly the same as mine with regards to mental health. It's like a dream, you can't control it. Like a part of dream u would wake up but don't want too. Nhs and armed forces are so poor at dealing with us. 😪 u especially deserve the very best of help, your such a life saver ❤️
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10 Tours of Afgan - Liz is a absolute warrior 💪 🇬🇧👏
Oh Liz you are making a difference by sharing, teaching and leading. Well done, don't stop!
Thanks for watching!
MERT crews , absolute heroes the lot of em .
I’ve read Liz’s book and heard her interviewed before but watched this start to finish. You can see how she’s developed as a speaker and is incredibly polished in delivering her fascinating story. Big Phil doing another great job, loving your work. 👍👊
Just ordered the book myself.
i was in the Engineers that were attached to the marines when Tom Currie died right in front of my face. when she mentioned his name it took me back a bit! love to hear other peoples perspective of the same conflict. keep up the great work!
@@ForceRadioHQ more than welcome! It nice to hear from others perspectives of the same situations. Keep up the good work!
which Engineer unit?
@@MrBrendan59 59 CDO mate, they brought in some lads prior to tour to boost numbers from 25. So yes I was a hat! 😂
Fantastic chat Phil, I could listen to Liz again and again. The banter was just great, talking about "Scran" and "Brass evrywhere" just brough back so many memories. Another book sale here.
Many thanks!
Wow!! Liz you are a legend and thank you for your service, it is people like yourself that I hold in such high regard for your service.
Phil, as always a legend as well and you, Liz and all the many, many, many other servicemen and women are the inspiration that we should all look up to because we owe you all so much.
Loved the interview and I will be reading/listening to the books asap
Wow, thank you!
If it wasn't for the MERT crews - I wouldn't be here today. Absolute legends.
Otterburn 🤢🤢🤢🤮
Thanks for sharing 👏🏻
Love Big Phils Interviews!
He's the best one out of them all.
03:58 exactly same here. Left school at 15yrs old, not a qualification to my name. No idea what to do… Now sat here, in my 50’s, (medically) retired Paramedic. If you want it, you can get it.
Thank you for sharing your journey! It's a powerful reminder that determination can lead to incredible achievements, no matter when you start.👏🏼
Thanks Liz. Same for me when I went to get some help. Take these and see you in six weeks! I won’t be about in six weeks!! All not bad now and good to listen to you. Thanks. Adam (Ex RHA). Fist bump to you Phil.
I left NI 30 years ago, and loved hearing that county Down accent!!
Discovered your channel a week ago. Frickin love it. Especially the selection series 👌
Amazing Lady. Words fail for what you have done. Thank=You.
This is the best chanel on TH-cam. Phil is a superb interviewer, empathetic, a great listener and with a deep knowledge of the subject.
Wow, thank you so much for the support!
Amazing interview. Phil is smart, is not judgemental and gets the most out of folks. Agree that there should be a period of decommissioning/ demob for anyone who sees action.
Thank you for your kind words! Phil really knows how to create a comfortable space for open conversations, and I completely agree about the importance of a decommissioning period for those who have seen action. 🙌🏻
I am neither a veteran nor a first responder, but this story resonated with me. My family and I have had to deal with very challenging mental health issues and have managed to come out the other side stronger for it. It is something that never goes away, but we have learned to live and thrive! I really appreciate both Phil and Liz's transparency and honesty. You are both inspirations to us all, veterans and civies as well! Thank you so much!!!
Wow thank you for your kind words! Your support is so important to us 👏🏻
Thanks Phil, what an amazing guest, once again !! I served in the RAF in the 80s , a radio operator attached to 244 Royal Signals ( Tac Comms Wing UKMF, RAF Brize Norton ) and our unit supported the Chinook squadrons, mainly 7 Squadron RAF Odiham and 33 Squadron Pumas. I know this is commonly said, but, thank you, both of you for your service to our great nation and for this brilliant podcast. Cheers, Daz, Leicester.
Thanks for sharing!
Brilliant interview Phil, and what a champion lady....
Thank you for watching, we'd love to have Liz back in the studio.
Watched this a couple of times, tremendous and sincere interview. Warms the heart. 👊🏻
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I am going to talk to someone tomorrow , thank you\
How'd it go? Hope you're doing well
Wow, what an amazing interview. 95 Amitriptyline OD would have put Liz into really nasty cardiac arrhythmias.
So glad to hear that you've recovered Liz and hope you've found some peace.
Thanks again Phil, this was a really great 1hr and 15 mins. Namaste x
Thanks for watching!
What an incredible women with a mind blowing & at times heartbreaking story. Thank you for sharing your story & for your service liz. I pray that all service veterans will get the help & support they desrve. They are all true heroes.
Thanks for listening, and your support ⚔️
Absolutely outstanding Liz. So much happened in those 17 years and it took its toll. But as you said, your time was not up. It was a privilege to listen to you on here. Respects
Thank you for watching!
@@ForceRadioHQ Phil I was former WO2 CSM with B( PWRR ) Coy, London Regt TA
Thanks for such an engaging and relevant discussion. Liz, an incredible human being. All serving and veterans have had impactful and life forming experiences. Decompression training post deployment (if it still happens) I would like to think has helped identifying the in service hand rails, but as you say, what after. Ive been out 14 years and maintain very close friendships that my civvy mates will never achieve or understand. That friendship forms my rock. Great job Phil.
Amazing, total inspiration. Wish you the best Liz
An excellent interview; Liz got to speak without being dragged back to the usual stuff. Very important issues raised and dealt with. Many thanks Phil.
Thanks for watching!
Another fantastic podcast, absolutely loving this show!
Big Phil, your guests are brilliant, truly an inspiration ❤
Don't think I could more in awe or in love with any other women - incredible Liz, absolutely incredible xx
Wow, thank you to both of you.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you both for a fantastic epic.
Another fascinating story, great interview as always, all the best Liz
Luv listening to her such a luvly voice to listen to ....
Outstanding!
What a fantastic interview
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing lady , amazing podcast ❤
Well articulated Liz... ❤ I hope you made some kind of report to the Home Secretary and the General Medical Council regarding the appalling chain of events you described at being prescribed those drugs and the notable lack of empathy and action of the GP surgery...
Keep on keeping on
Thanks for watching
Another Great show! Another Great story told by another brave lady!! Thank you for your service!!
Thanks again!
Whilst the RAF rightly gets 💩 for some of the ridiculous stuff they do it's people like Liz who put it all straight back in focus.
The MERT crews were an absolutely incredible bunch of thoroughly professional guys, to my mind they deserve the utmost respect and gratitude.
Thank you for watching!
Another fantastic pod Phil! A brilliant interview with a very courageous veteran 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Love your podcasts phil, great interviewer!
Liz flew on Bravo November! 👏 Literally the most famous longest serving chinook to ever fly 👌
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Incredible interview of an incredible lady!!! Top Notch Phil ..keep em coming!
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Dear Phil, I have always had the highest respect for females, but females in the military in a male dominated area, I genuinely admire for proving that they have the true grit and determination to go do the job as well as a geezer. This particular girl is the most incredible beautiful person, her story I can relate to. Although I was only in the territorial army I did more exercises than the Ruperts and some of my training contributed to mental health issues PTSD, and what Liz described and yourself I have suffered, relationship wise and the routine taken from you, is a total head fuck, the military is still in my head but due to osteoarthritis and other medical issues my life is no different to lockdown so I’m a prisoner in my own home. Please send my sincere heart felt thank you To Liz chinook chick for me because she has made me realise what is going on with my life mentally and how crap my doctors are. I solute you both for your service 🫡❤❤
Thank you so much for watching🙏
Salute to you both.
That was a marvellous interview and what a lovely and engaging Doris Liz is, well done. I’m pretty sure, that she’s not a little girl from Basingsmoke though, not with that accent. Will be ordering the book, deffo.
Being ex RAF and fire service I can really identify with a lot Liz says. One minute your are absolutely on the edge next you just another person. I will say this tho for those in the UK there is the Samaritans. Ring them. They are there for you. I work on the railway now you can imagine what that’s like. 😊
Phil, Liz, thank you ❤
She is super Human to me . A Fantastic unbelievable Human being. Can't express how much I Respect this Women.
Thanks for sharing!
Great interview ✌️ keep ‘em comin Uncle Phil!
Great interview Phil,
I can relate to Liz story so much.
Class… knowing you had this lot have your back out there took the edge off keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Another excellent discussion Phil and Liz is wonderful. Such a super person!
Well played Phil. Brilliant podcast 👏 👌 👍
Thanks for watching!
Cracking story. Love the pod.
Total respect, amazing story thank you for sharing this.
Thank you for watching!
fabulous interview - per ardua!
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This lady is a jem god bless her. And Phil u r a legend. I love your podcasts and I thank you regards😊😊
Absolutely stunning interview, off to buy the book.
Thanks for watching
Brilliant!
@@ForceRadioHQ Keep up the good interviewing and guest selection.
Amazing podcast. 👊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very brave young lady 👍
What an amazing powerful story - thank you Liz and thank you Phil!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great interview.
Phil, would you consider getting something like Patreon so people can support your work?
Maybe one day
Thanks for this. #mentalhealthmatters
The marine she carried is Tom "Vindus" Currie RIP
Be the best👍🇬🇧 Well done Liz...
Ulster Girls Rock.
Thanks for watching
Very Impressed.
Thanks for watching!
Great interview guys. Always have mixed emotions whenever I hear a chinook, strange how some things stick. Good chance she’s giving me a cabbie at some point. Lizs book on the crimbo list.
Thank you for your support🫡
Amazing Woman 👌👌💪💪🥰
Dam! This was an intense interview 😢
Thanks for watching
What a story, she deserves to live and enjoy a long and happy life! ❤
That she does 👏🏻
The Bravo November story, should be found in the Flying Log Books of the crews who flew in her, Shirley? Dunno where you’d find those, though 🤷♂️.
amazing woman!!!
Agreed!
Well done 👏
Thank you! Cheers!
Top woman much respect 🇮🇲🇮🇲🇮🇲
Fantastic podcast , absolute fucking legends. massive respect
No need to fucking swear, mate, for fuck’s sake!
After listening to this what a cracking lassie what an interview we'll done folks coming from a ex signals scallie
Thanks for watching
Her story about how her GP surgery dealt with her ringing just sums up the vast majority of GP surgeries unfortunately, they just do not seem to give a shit.
It's really unfortunate..
Ex forces ma self don't agree with sergeant after basic but it is what it is bud bud great episode
Thanks for watching
This is emotional, normalising such trauma is mad. I tip my hat to these people.
Thank you for watching
It’s true that people need a support group I.e. comrades,friends and family. However you need to fight the internal demons and remember tomorrow is another day and life can turn on a sixpence.
Absolutely ⚔️
What a brilliant “ chick” / “ Doris”….
Said with affection.
Great interview.
Post service suicide, out of the club etc.
Thank you for watching! 😁
This is at least the 2nd time I’ve listened to this podcast and it’s as entertaining as ever, the thing I find hardest to swallow and taking into account the suicidal stuff and the witnessing loss of life from the lads is the way she talks about lockdown. I’m guessing carrying on the military way of following orders. It makes my blood boil what the government did scamming people into this bullshit and who knows how many people died because of this, whether that be just like her carrying pre issues like PTSD or the isolation of this so called lockdown or even the VAST LACK of treatment to or access to hospitals for terminal illnesses. I’m so lucky I ignored the whole scam and went about my buisness as normal, these politicians should be charged with treason. How close she came to not making it gives me the shivers, what a waste that would have been.
Thanks for sharing
Wow wow row 😢😢😢
I totally loved all af this Ladies story and I cried at 50-52 minutes 😱😭😭😭 What a disgusting scenario she was put in 🤬🤬🤬
Thanks for watching!
Re that 6 months after you leave, when you can pop back into camp for the mess etc. well, some will be there all the time and at the end of 6 months will be back where they started. Gotta do something though.
44:19 “ … got lockdown … “ The suffering caused to her that almost ended in suicide and the countless cases of actual death and mental damage due to the governmental order to impose house arrest upon millions of people was a crime that must be punished. The fact that such measures were in fact to push a worldwide commercial experiment makes it even more heinous.
RE The Hele copter that ditched and lost the door on the Faulklands:
Mike Brewer done a show that tracked the history of the helicopter and actually found the lost door in the Faulklands if I remember right. It's years ago since I seen it so details a bit hazy.
I'll be sure to buy this girls book. Fantastic podcast.
@@ForceRadioHQ Falklands Hero: Bravo November.27 March 2012 Discovery channel. You'll find it from that.
Had two people I gave all hours access to whenever they needed to talk.. one died about two years ago from health issues (I wear his division insignia on a ball cap for the minor league hockey team I'm involved with to honor his memory) and am still in touch with someone who was in the trailers in Dharhan when the SCUDs hit in 1991... she's doing much better now. Also have a friend in the UK who has PTSD from being blown up twice in AFG... The main thing and most important step is realizing that help is needed.. and talking to someone..
What a great girl x
Marine curry's death is covered on a documentary filmed between initial training and combat its called marine on the front line
I 100% agree more needs to be done when lads and lasses leave the army there needs to be more done from the individual regiments I left about 6 months ago and havnt heard a word from anyone I used to work with other than the lads I was close with luckily but nobody in the unit gives a fuck about you once you’ve left and that’s quite sad considering one minute your sat in in a field in the butt fuck middle of knowhere having the time of your life together to absolute radio silence it’s a real shame
Would you be able to get Foxy on here ? The legend from S.A.S who dares win please
I hope the locus Dr sees this and learns something from it. Jeepers, that was a close call!
If Liz knew the origin of why women get called ‘Doris’, she’d maybe be not that pleased 🤣😂.
What an amazing person great stories the Falkland bravo November years ago I watched a documentary with Mike brewer the wheeler dealer guy he was on that helicopter and if I remember correctly the pilot got shoot while taking off and he flew the helicopter back to base I think the pilot was ok turn out he had been shot in his head I think that’s right
Great interview as usual on 'The Debrief' but i just cannot stand your accent so sadly i am turning this off.
Sorry to hear that
I heard a story from an ex Sea king crewman ,and at the beginning before they take off ,they'd hold a ceremony were they'd bless the nut that held the rotor blades on ..
Your experience is exactly the same as mine with regards to mental health. It's like a dream, you can't control it. Like a part of dream u would wake up but don't want too. Nhs and armed forces are so poor at dealing with us. 😪 u especially deserve the very best of help, your such a life saver ❤️