AT vs PCT | An IN DEPTH Comparison from a Thru Hiker (which one is better?)

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  • In this solo episode I do an in depth comparison between the Appalachian Trail and Pacific Crest Trail in the following categories; Weather/climate, Views and scenery, Gear differences, Difficulty (Mentally & Physically), Permits, Water, Resupply, Towns, and People. Then, at the end of the episode I tell you which trail I think is better (Appalachian Trail vs Pacific Crest Trail).
    Trail Tales episode 168 (Kyle Hates Hiking podcast)
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  • @musingwithreba9667
    @musingwithreba9667 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think one of the biggest differences between the 2 trails is that the AT you're more likely to be able to finish it, whereas the PCT has so many closures every year for wildfires, not as many who start can do the entire trail. As you experienced. I guess that can depend on your start date, but some folks who got an earlier start last year had to skip over sections of fires, even with the high snow year.
    Although, last year on the AT there were some closures in New England because of flooding, so that might become a thing there. I hope not.
    I like the solo format as much as the interview format. Either way there's some trail tales, so s'all good!

  • @seanwilson6521
    @seanwilson6521 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I chose the AT over the PCT for three reasons. First, I'm an older hiker with health issues, and high elevation could create serious problems. Secondly, I am not a water person, and river crossings would have added a lot of stress for me. Finally, I have dietary considerations where I sent all my resupply to me on my hike very rarely using local resources. I'm going to give the AT another go when I turn seventy :

  • @lowwoutchea
    @lowwoutchea 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Started over here, finished on Spotify, but had to come back here to say I love the solo podcast just as much as the interviews. As someone doing their first thru hike and hoping to finish the triple crown, this is really helpful. Nothing gives more comfort about a new adventure than info from someone with first hand experience. Vlogs can only give so much. Love the content! See you at trail days! 👋🏽

  • @dangaspar1707
    @dangaspar1707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great listen - thanks for sharing!

  • @RandyDavis2500
    @RandyDavis2500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. I like your solo...AND I like how balanced, objective, and accurate your strive to be. I just subscribed and liked because of the great job. Love the solo format. Thank you!

  • @lowwoutchea
    @lowwoutchea 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excited to hear you’ll be at trail days!! I’ll definitely be looking out for deets and see you there 😁😁 hiking the AT this year

  • @foxfakenews3293
    @foxfakenews3293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The PCT goes through a lot of National Parks. Trails in those parks are less steep, so more people can use them. National and state forests are another story. The trails are much steeper but fewer switchbacks.

  • @Itseemedlikeagoodida
    @Itseemedlikeagoodida 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the solo style episodes just as much as the ones when you have guests on. Also really hoping to be at trail days this year. We'll see 🤞😊

  • @Sinnicide
    @Sinnicide 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I literally found your channel less than a week ago and I live near Martinsburg WV. Trail Days sounds like a blast and its close this is a WIN.

  • @debhanzlik540
    @debhanzlik540 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed this episode Kyle

  • @Deb16-
    @Deb16- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We will be at Trail Days! Haven't done a thru hike but look forward. to meeting you;

  • @johnnywinchester8491
    @johnnywinchester8491 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We're planning on going to trail days this year! Hope to see ya there!

  • @1972Celeste
    @1972Celeste 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YAY!!! i go to Trail Days every year!! So awesome to be able to meet you! You should set up your own spot and have meet and greets!

  • @divemaster289
    @divemaster289 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We start March 11, listen to all your podcasts. Would love to see you at trail days!

  • @ArcaneSpells
    @ArcaneSpells 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Super interesting comparisons! Thanks Kyle. I liked the change up with a solo episode. Sprinkle a few more of those in 👍🏻

    • @trailtalespod
      @trailtalespod  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      will do, thank you for your continued support and comments!

  • @tkemp4184
    @tkemp4184 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great one!!

  • @lezlireeter59
    @lezlireeter59 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So glad you did this podcast- one of my favorites 😊

    • @trailtalespod
      @trailtalespod  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      glad you enjoyed it!!

  • @anninwhack1998
    @anninwhack1998 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your solo podcast are good bc you give a lot of useful advice. Feel better!

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As an older hiker West coast hiking is far less of a beating on my battered old knees. The straight up and down and the endless rain is an ass kicker. The sun I get but it, but nothing likes weeks of rain and mud. It’s not even close. One thing you did not mention is the additional expense of the PCT, it’s the West Coast and lots of California. Now let’s compare the PCT to the CDT. I am an East Coast hiker but as I have aged out I prefer the West, basically because my body handles it better. A triple crowner once told me 40 miles are easier on PCT than 20 miles in the Whites on the AT. I would agree.

  • @inthewoods420
    @inthewoods420 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was at trail days camping in tent city and pretty sure I saw you, which is crazy cause I didn’t discover your channel til like a week after. But, I live very close to where the festival is held so I come every year!! Hope to see you next year ❤

  • @amynapier3551
    @amynapier3551 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for posting these podcasts on TH-cam. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to go to trail days.
    This episode was very helpful and reinforced my impressions of each trail. I'm definitely doing a thru hike of the AT. The PCT has so many moving parts, unpredictable weather/environment, increased costs, and tricky logistics. It doesn't make it impossible, but you definitely have to be prepared as well as being able to accept that you might not be able to hike every PCT mile due to things out of your control.
    Keep shining bright and enjoy trail days.

  • @markheming3507
    @markheming3507 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Kyle

  • @jameswitham3248
    @jameswitham3248 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You forgot to tell yourself about the end of episode story!
    Great ep though :)

  • @babygates
    @babygates 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Starting the AT in early May. I'm not making plans in advance to attend trail days, but if I do wind up there I'll definitely stop by

  • @btowell80
    @btowell80 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I plan to attend Trail Days this year. I thru-hiked the AT in 2023 and it was amazing. If you end up doing it meetup, I would love to meet you. Keep hiking, my friend!

  • @youtubeuser5609
    @youtubeuser5609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kyle, dude, get well soon! 🍀 We even stick around with you and your channel over here if you take a break once in a while! I felt sore in my throat aswell while watching this. You‘re a brave soldier! ;) But get yourself some rest! Best wishes from one of your biggest fans from Germany!

  • @jennagilbreath
    @jennagilbreath 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m vlogging my AT thru-hike this year and I’m plan on being at Trail Days!

  • @johannasolesbee5647
    @johannasolesbee5647 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kyle ! I love your content! I will be at Trail Days too and I hope to meet you. From watching your videos so much I feel like I already know you hahaha.

  • @saralechak5834
    @saralechak5834 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope you feel better

  • @chefegzyle
    @chefegzyle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me and my family have gone for the past two years and are planning on going again, we would love to meet you. I'm a big fan.

  • @timothynaughton3532
    @timothynaughton3532 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would totally do a meetup! Love the content. Esp the mystery stories.

  • @valsinchak4681
    @valsinchak4681 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am thruhiking the AT this yr starting in April and already booked a place in Damascus for trail days

  • @rayosunshine
    @rayosunshine 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great episode and topic for your first solo video. I love the AT best and it did spoil me because of the abundance of water and nearby towns/resupplies. NH Whites and the Smokies are the best for views (NOBO). PCT views are better but are more challenging to get. No need for ice ax, crampons or bear cannister. More people too if that is your thing but watch out for sketchy strangers. Plenty of water, trees and wildlife (don't ride the wild ponies). Best hostels "The Notch" Woodstock NH, "Woods Hole" Virginia, "Shaw's" Maine. If you put Clingmans Dome on top of Mount Washington it still wouldn't be as tall as Mount Whitney.

  • @jacobwhodawhata3512
    @jacobwhodawhata3512 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My buddies and I will be finishing up a section hike in Damascus for trail days and we would love to do a listener meet up!

  • @crunchyhikes5254
    @crunchyhikes5254 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Start my thru hike on 3-14. Hope to see you at Trail Days.

    • @rayosunshine
      @rayosunshine 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's Pi Day, perfect. Best luck to you in '24.

  • @UncleGeorgeTV
    @UncleGeorgeTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Strongly more slightly a fan 😂👍

  • @hunterthehiker9227
    @hunterthehiker9227 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll be thru hiking the AT this year!!! Would love to meet up at trail days!!

  • @grootsadventures24
    @grootsadventures24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely would like to meet up at Trail Days. We start NOBO on the AT this month! 👍

  • @saralechak5834
    @saralechak5834 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Get organic Golden milk, squeeze a organic lime 2 times a day to keep colds away

  • @ravenonthefly313
    @ravenonthefly313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i fully intend to time my thru-hike so it puts me near Damascus in line with trail days, itd be cool to meet up with you there

  • @Davidadventures
    @Davidadventures 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm from California going to hike the AT and starting in about a month. I'll look for you at AT Days in Damascus.
    You said that in the AT you basically need one set of gear. However, most people are starting in March where snow is common and temperatures are getting down to 20 or less. Most people bring winter gear until after the Smokies. After that, prepare to deal with humidity and gnats. Also, it's much harder to see the rattlesnakes.

  • @loganwanders
    @loganwanders 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great content. I did the AT in 2018 as well. I'm planning on trail days this year, and would definitely be down for a meetup. Would be cool to connect, and I think it could end up being a pretty sweet crew as well.

  • @xbadventures
    @xbadventures 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Early season you may need an ice ax or at least spikes as early as Mt San Jacinto and Mt Baden Powell on the PCT. San Jacinto has claimed some lives in early season due to not being prepared for snow while hiking “the desert”.

    • @rayosunshine
      @rayosunshine 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tons of snow and rain in So-Cal lately.

  • @smokescreen6914
    @smokescreen6914 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Kyle! I’d be interested in hearing a thru hikers take on the burned areas in the smokies while hiking the AT. I believe it was 2016 when the wildfires ripped through the smokies? Anyhow keep the content coming, and thank you!

    • @trailtalespod
      @trailtalespod  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do remember seeing a few random burn spots in the south but it was NOTHING compared to what you see on the PCT.

  • @AngelOnTheTrail
    @AngelOnTheTrail 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll be thruhiking the AT in 2024 and I’ll be at trail days! Just let us know when and where and we’ll be there!

  • @ClaytonSea
    @ClaytonSea 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On the AT (if you start at an average time) most hikers will swap out their sleeping bag/quilt when it gets warmer (about a $200-400 investment), send their puffy jacket/winter layers home, or replace their trekking poles at least once. The bear can does suck to carry, but like you said, the AT will most likely be requiring one in the near future also. PCT hikers will have to change out more gear, but I'd argue the gear changes on the AT are more significant.

    • @trailtalespod
      @trailtalespod  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fair enough, good insight!

  • @robertdesrosiers4743
    @robertdesrosiers4743 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    start mid feb may see you there

  • @UncleGeorgeTV
    @UncleGeorgeTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I prefer the seclusion of the PC t over crowds of the AT

    • @TamiBlackburn-om9ky
      @TamiBlackburn-om9ky 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have beautiful big blue eyes and a great broadcasting voice too and I love your sense of humor. All your jokes about your "balls" just Crack me up!!!!!

    • @AZ-su1zg
      @AZ-su1zg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. There are so many ppl that I would prefer to do it with a Group on the AT. But for pCT a partner I pick up with on and off would be cool.

  • @thefisherking78
    @thefisherking78 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm only in Alabama and I might be interested in coming. All depends on having the cash for travel by then though

  • @lela8658
    @lela8658 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanna meet you at trail days!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍

  • @philippal8666
    @philippal8666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can we have a map in the corner sometimes please. I’m in Europe,& I enjoy hiking in so many countries. I know the basic geography of the US but not when it comes to details. States in the middle I get confused sometimes. I know the two East and West mountain ranges, the way the desert and then fields roll away from the sea and mountains towards the east. It’s very clear, unlike Europe’s mountain ranges!

  • @lesliethurston2151
    @lesliethurston2151 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kyle, you do a phenomenal job at injecting humor, balancing it ever so tactfully when you start to get off trail * pun intended*. Your podcasts never feel manufactured, rather you always keep it flowing and yet mysterious.

  • @sticktheeagle
    @sticktheeagle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GSMNP $40
    SNP $15
    Taylor had to adjust her plans last year because BSP was at cap. But permit is free.

  • @CanCanHikes
    @CanCanHikes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Easier access to resupplies and water on the AT are huge benefits over the PCT

  • @sticktheeagle
    @sticktheeagle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PCT hammocks cannot be used?
    Won’t be at trail days this year because I am thru hiking but maybe next year

  • @ISuckatHiking
    @ISuckatHiking 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I come back down to trail days we will meet up

  • @dangaspar1707
    @dangaspar1707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You started late on PCT - starting early, 4L is max needed. I use 1L per 5 (sometimes less, but more in camp).

  • @dangaspar1707
    @dangaspar1707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have subscribed 3 times. Not sure why YT keeps removing it.

  • @DirtyDaisy74
    @DirtyDaisy74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m coming with friends! We live in Virginia, renting an Airbnb.

  • @lydiagould3090
    @lydiagould3090 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video! I think I might prefer to hike the PCT, but the desert sounds a bit dull.
    Something I'm confused about is the Permit thing.
    How can they possibly police it when you have an area of thousands of square miles of wilderness ?
    I can see that you could do this at some car parks and campsites, but its not like there's just one entrance. People could wander around and never see a park ranger ,let alone another human.
    I'm from the UK and have hiked /biked in Scotland and have gone days without seeing anyone.

  • @EricSpriggs
    @EricSpriggs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like the "better" trail is always the one you thru-hiked first.

    • @trailtalespod
      @trailtalespod  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      honestly this is so true

  • @claudeclawsonne4510
    @claudeclawsonne4510 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you said somewhere around virginia, long stretches of AT is flat. We're old and would like to hike a fairly flat section. So where was that again?

  • @sirsir108
    @sirsir108 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I preference the PCT because i live right next to it.
    As far as CDT vs AT ill probably go for the CDT before the AT because it's closer to me and I'm kinda freaked out by the tics on the AT although the AT does look really nice it's not something that's going to be as easy for me to try

  • @UncleGeorgeTV
    @UncleGeorgeTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Going to pct days August 16-17?

  • @Fistmele
    @Fistmele 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The smokies had hip deep snow this past month, just sayin'

  • @peek-a-moose2491
    @peek-a-moose2491 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *Both trails are beautiful. You pass through different ecosystems. The AT has many more species of plant diversity and weather on the AT is more inconsistent and surprising. Never know when a hurricane or two might hit you while hiking on the AT.
    *Too many party hikers on the AT and the PCT. I don't know which is worse but I stay away from them.I guess there are more places to party on the AT....
    *The AT terrain is varied as well, but much more subtle than the PCT -- no deserts on the AT....
    *Very few water issues on the AT. Tons of water issues on the PCT. The burnt areas of the PCT also effects the water quantity and quality....
    *Having hiked many areas of both trails, I find the wear and tear of shoes is much quicker on the AT than the PCT and that the AT, lacking in switchbacks (there is an occasional One) makes hiking a bit harder....
    *Problems on the AT and PCT: Bears (which I love seeing) are more plentiful on the AT and more bothersome on the AT; ticks - they both have them but the AT seems to have more; mosquitos are horrid on both; Black flies on the AT are notorious.
    *Yes, New York and New Jersey is a beautiful part of the trail and often overlooked.... Thanks for mentioning that. In fact, NJ and NY is a miniature up and down introduction of rock squeezing and hopping for VT, NH and ME.
    *I don't stay in or near shelters so the mice problems don't bother me...... But mice are a bigger problem on the AT.
    *On the AT I rest every ten days. Most people seem to take breaks every three or four days on the AT - I think it is the party atmosphere they like..... I stay away from parties. But the towns are quite lovely... most of them.
    *More historical sites on the AT, if that means anything to you.
    *Scenery wiae - Great scenery everywhere....
    -------Northern Washington is the best on the PCT for me -- for spectacular scenery.... but I haven't been everywhere on the PCT ....
    -------White Mountiains is my favorite area on the AT --
    * Wildlife -- more varied and more sightings on the AT

  • @JohnHarrisCountryBoyCooking
    @JohnHarrisCountryBoyCooking 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey buddy I will be at trail days and would love to meet up and we chat. Love your content

  • @Casual_BackPacking
    @Casual_BackPacking 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's see if Kyle let's them talk this time 😅

  • @tomnoyb8301
    @tomnoyb8301 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rather post-hole in snow than mud.

  • @gwynkaitis1259
    @gwynkaitis1259 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I understand bear cannisters being required in some places but isn't it just good practice to have them anywhere in bear habitat?

  • @HybridHiker556
    @HybridHiker556 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Kyle I ran across a young man who is getting ready to start a thru hike on the PCT. He is newer but has some great insights about the mental and psychological aspects of hiking. Would love to see you do an interview with a newer hiker and get some insight into how they perceive an upcoming hike. His channel is youtube.com/@phil_forrest?si=1b879l_6Yr0Aqfsu. Keep up the great podcasts.

  • @Amilliondreams87
    @Amilliondreams87 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would say filming permits for national parks is a new thing, if you plan to monetize your videos you can cover your butt with 100.00 for the whole trail but it's something I've recently heard of. Dude if you could afford it it would be neat for your channel to go yearly or at least every other year and do interviews or like worst stories/best stories on trail this year for people.

  • @ajparks79
    @ajparks79 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TMI on the nose..,😊

  • @UncleGeorgeTV
    @UncleGeorgeTV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pct for me 😂

  • @alyishiking
    @alyishiking 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which trail is better? The one you like the most is the one that's better. no kap. But seriously, I think both trails have so many wonderful and terrible things. They're both so different.
    Appalachian Trail Trail Days lmoa. Would totally go again but I'll be on the PCT!

    • @trailtalespod
      @trailtalespod  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      best of luck out there!

  • @hieptran6152
    @hieptran6152 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I kept hearing how great the AT was from AT hikers. I was told of the amazing views and how hard it was compared to the PCT. I found the AT boring and easy. Because it is an easier trail, you get more bullshitters, youtube experts, con men, and weirdos. PCT is a much better trail. It has better views and more dedicated hikers.

  • @allycinwunderland
    @allycinwunderland 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Living in the PNW I can tell ya, your chances of getting a hitch are probably really low. I don't know anyone who would enthusiastically give a hitch hiker a ride even if they did look like a PCT hiker, sadly! Not anyone sound of mind anyways

  • @peek-a-moose2491
    @peek-a-moose2491 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will never go to Trail Days. It is just another piece of commercialization of the AT....

  • @omgBort
    @omgBort 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    80% is not a thru hike.

  • @paulconnelly640
    @paulconnelly640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rambling incoherence meet your poster child.