DRAGONSONG FALCONER IS SO BROKEN! - Last Epoch Build
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 2024
- Last Epoch - So it turns out Falconer is completely insane in every aspect.
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Really happy to see you doing LE build guides, Kripp! Even with how much content you create across so many games, I'm consistently impressed by the research you do and the quality of your guides.
There're always going to be a few things that get missed or pointed out in the comments, but this was a really good watch.
Love that you're doing builds for LE and expanding your knowledge in so many games. Cool to see that you like LE also.
Another great build guide. For me appeal for these types of games is playing them a little broken; you nailed it with Void Knight and sold me on giving this one a try. Thanks
I've played this build and it is indeed totally broken. I went fire only, not taking the explosive trap lightning and cold nodes, instead focusing fire damage increase only. Hard to get but not impossible. The entire screen just dies mashing buttons. It's glorious.
Just for added insight, Dragonsong is my favorite item in LE. I ultimately ramped up a Dragonsong Marksman build to beyond 1000+ corruption, so I understand this specialized build very well. Unfortunately Falconer's crits don't count towards the Dragonsong proc, so that's an anti-synergy there. As mentioned in some of the other comments, Cinderstrike with Oil Coating and Burning Daggers is CRAZY strong in conjunction with Dragonsong procs. As Kripp mentioned, Mourningfrost is borderline mandatory for any Dragonsong build. One thing that I'd mention is Immolation Oblation can offer an additional +40 spell damage to Dragonsong, which is significant. Highly recommend trying out a Dragonsong build variation of some type!
Came down here to mention your build and what it can do but you beat me to it =P
Actually, Oblation gives up to 240 spell damage.
Its not up to 40 spell damage, its up to 40 stacks of 6 spell damage per. The wording is confusing.
@@ErrrrDontKnow Wow I didn't read it that way potentially. Thanks.
But it’s such a bad idea to do a dragonsong build on a non falconer !🤪
>Dragonsong is my favorite item in LE
Same. It's *incredibly* versatile. I've successfully used it with: Kelthans Decoy Nuke, Multishot as a Stun applier, HoA to Immobilize and as a Defensive layer, and even in a Flurry/MShot combo where the spell procced almost 100% of the time due to having over 250% attack speed and crit cap. It is an unbelievably fun weapon, and the only real shame is the survivability of the class as a whole. @snoobae--I'd *love* to see your build and some insight on how you got to 1000C using it! A tip of my hat to a fellow Dragonsong enjoyer :D
You really built a banger. I have followed this build from when you started and im at 510 corruption and barely getting touched. Kudos..
I used dragonsong with cinderstrike and the meteor belt during the beta . God that was my favorite build ever
I like it too. Cinderstrike melee with the trap trigger on melee hit was my first build. unfortunately with the Dragonsong we are using a range weapon. oh, maybe its not a problem if we attack closer to the target
Do you have an updated version of this build? I mean is this an end game build? Thank you so much!
a very similar concept to the blast knife detonating arrow build, made possible by slapping on explosive trap. Overall a good addition to the game.
I tried Smokebomb as a traversal skill, but I had it also alongside Shift.
This poses a bit of a problem as traversal skills appear to share cooldowns, I could not Shift directly after a Smokebomb.
Shift is prefered (at least for myself) because it generated mana and more importantly in the build I was using proc'd Shurikens with Blade Shield for the extra armour.
Now this doesn't all apply to your loadout, and I do agree, Smokebomb as a traversal to me seems really good considering it then becomes something like a 3.5 second baseline cooldown.
I just like Shift better, and having stacked a bunch of CD reduction gear up, I have my CD down to something like 2.2 seconds.
make a swarmblade lightning build! I haven´t seen anyone manage to acctually hit it´s full potential, awesome vids as always btw
Frost swarmblade is better but lightning looks cooler
can we replace dive bomb with dash to gain mana and replace smoke bomb with sync strike for shadows?
Very cool build! I think id still look into marksmen with dragon song instead personally!
I recently switched to smokebomb from a different build video and its absolutely disgusting!
Apart from having to solve your mana problem from min maxing, you should take a look at smoke bomb node that gives base crit chance while in smokebomb. More beneficial than the extra points in smoke blades 😁
Great informative vid!
Try out the detonating arrow marksman build dual wielding Jelkhor's Blast. It's insane.
Why not take a point in Lightning bomb for trap? More crits from Spark Charges.
I love these builds...they are so fun!
why no rule of the simoon gloves? great fire res, chanse to shred fire res, some fire dmg, inc armor and void res, seems like a good option?
I've been trying it out on my (underleveled) falconer recently. The damage from the tornado isn't great, although the other stats are good. The biggest problem is that the tornado proc drains mana like crazy.
There is another version of this build that uses balistas and the i think potion belt unique and acid flask unique but requires the T7 less mana cost affixes like Krip says
this build is good with the acid flask armor build. I don't throw the flask manually, but the bird does. one good point with the unique is we get +2 on throwing skills. and if we follow Kripp's build, the smoke screen will become a throwing skill too
Just a general question, does he play hc in last epoch? Or are these builds softcore builds?
I played a coc marksman build a while back, and it was amazing, no reason it wouldn't be with the most broken mastery in the game.
Hi. why do I have 3 thrown out instead of 4 traps? skill glasses exactly and things except the amulet and mittens are the same... what can be the problem?
You have to put a point in the node to the right and up a bit. I forget the name of it but it’s right above the node that makes it do less damage and cost less mana
Anytone have a loot filter?
Elocoes armor you think work good with this setup ? thanks for build
Reasonably good fit, yes. The problem is that the 'throw flask, use potion for another at 150%' skill needs a direct use, not one triggered from the Trap Sprinkler skill. And really, you won't have time to chuck single flasks around with this build imo. Resistances, movement speed, and + throwing are really nice either way. That said, I can't help but keep looking at Prism Wraps for this build. +30% elemental damage, +30% crit chance, 30% reduction of elemental damage, and up to 8% leech on crit. Very close on what you prefer here. Elecoe's probably edges it on more Armour and Dodge but I dunno.
lootfilter?
May I ask why is your smoke bomb much larger than mine?
I'm having serious fps drop issues with this build. Every time I spam the bombs the screen goes haywaire and the fps drops drastically making the game unplayable :(( Anyone else have this issue? How did you solve it?
Kripp, have you tried adding Elecoe's Abandon Body Armor paired with Jungle Queen's Chaps of Holding Belt? consumes a potion to add additional more potent acid flask, plus more dexerity, plus aditional resitances and since that belt can hold 16 health potions. Please tell me if it's doable.
I started playing this and I actually notice the body armor is On Use direct Acid flask, but on the other hand, the body armor give greats stats like 2 to throwing skills and other things, and the unique belt with a Experimental Mana on Potion Use instead of mana regen would solve the mana issue cause it awards 20 to 40 mana per potion and you have 18 health potions xD
Put on the Toxic airdrop node on the falconer skill. It will drop an acid flask and consume the health potion from the chest piece.
@@Sinless23 nice, haven't noticed that, thanks!
Acid flask strong said no one ever
Krupp said hold my beer
Is there a beastmaster build with only his minions? (Not the squirrels and crows) been looking but its only for a single summon at most like the squirrels and crows.
Wolfs, you cna play just pure wolfs to 500c
@@Vulgaelsso, you are just jumping around and yelling at them?
I knew there was potential to doing a Dragonsong "FREEDOM" build. I'll try this out
We love dragonsong ! :D
i0m just surprised Kripparrian didnt make a campfire video on D4
What is "shred cap'? You mention you 'capping' out on them, but I thought they didn't really cap/fall off very much.
They have a stack cap of 10.
Resist shred debuffs cap out at 10, and have a base duration of 4 seconds.
Been farming the sphere for 3 days now, easily accessable my a** 😂
I have a 3 LP one sitting in my stash, and 2 other 1 LP's.
Anyone have an accurate planner? his planner is different then the video
Is the planner linked different or updated?
up up
Could have used cinderstrike spec fire penetration and you can get cast on kill acid flask which also has a fire version and use divebomb to increase crit chance by a lot.
On kill is good for clearing but not for bossing I suppose
@@Jimbr16 cool, the spec into more damage in cinderstrike instead
is Blast Rain node not good with this build?
i'm wandering too
Man seeing the stuff in Falconer makes me so sad when I go back to trying to make my Flamereave/Fireball spellblade work where everything costs a bagillion mana, gives minimal ward, and still doesn't do great damage.
Lolol 😂 this build insane
Cinder Strike has nodes to stack high amounts of +% Fire damage IIRC.
but it sucks
@@ZeOnexify Yup, compared to Cold conversion builds even the best Fire dmg builds don't even come close to scaling the same. I can top out at like 15k Fire dmg stacking *everything* toward fire. I can *yawn* out a Mourningfrost build with 35k DSong spell damage.
@@ZeOnexify Cinderstrike is used as a crit generator and damage amp and it amps alot od damage.
I had been trying to tell every rouge that doesnt use it that smoke bomb into a movement skill is insane. The best part imo about it is getting a 4s cooldown on a silver shroud guaranteeing a dodge every 4s
can it work in a lightning arrow build?
Can we go ward based somehow here?
how far could this build push corruption?
I'm glad to see you try a bunch of new builds and share them with us. I've tried a dragonsong marksman before and it sucked (pre 1.0), this makes me consider revisiting it. I'll be interested to see how far you can push survivability. I find rogues really challenging to get decent survivability on compared to any other class. (which sucks because it is my favorite)
Edit: there's a ring that's easy to get LP on that gives 30 ward on crit or something. Perhaps that's a way to get a ward buffer, but other than that, I'm not sure that's enough...
How do you do 4 traps!???
So big brain build. When i look at falconer tree, i always lean to shadow dagger build. Nice to see something unique
have you tried the unarmed build? with only a shield
Crazy how Falconer passed balance.
who cares, its a pve game anyways,have fun then try other builds
@@dariel299 well, its now an online game and people will always complain about the build they are playing being worse than someone else's for a quarter of the investment. Your point is ideal but in practice it just doesn't happen often enough to matter.
@@mauree1618 online or offline its still PVE, ur not killing each other, if u feel ur build isnt as efficient change it up or try another build is that simple, nowadays people worry about 'balance' so much , devs nerf it then ppl complaint , dont nerf it ppl complaint as well, just have fun, its not complicated
@@dariel299 I agree things don't need to be nerfed into the ground, but hand waiving balance as some negative thing is pretty short sighted. All games need outliers tuned to have a healthy game, even if it's just PVE. It's the reason ward will probably be addressed, and why classes or masteries that are heavy outliers will also be adjusted.
It's ultimately up to EHG to determine what the vision for the game is. People that advocate for blatantly broken things to stay in the game genuinely don't care about the longevity or health of the game, imo. It's fine for things to be adjusted, and I trust EHG to bring things to where they should be without over correcting. I think that's the key, and that's what a ton of companies are notoriously awful at. Trim down the outliers, and close the gap with the underperforming things.
i play a cinder strike/meteor/fire nado build. i have 79% crit atm and its just fire every where at all times
Tornado just for decoration, ha? :D
@mithicash1444 not really, it does Shred fire reaist each second and increases my fire dmg by 60%
that sounds super fun, how do you get tornado on rogue?
@@AyrennC Rule of the Simoon gloves
Genius kripp like always !
Does this still works for 1.1?
am i missing something but my smoke bomb shadow duds dont throw anything ?
Mine do not either. I wish someone could explain why
3:20 so you're saying this build is gonna get giga nerfed in a week or two
the necro wraith lord build slaps pretty hard, would you say this is stronger than that too?
ofc it is look at Raxx
The wraithlord build is much stronger than this.
how to throw 4 traps? im trowing only 3 and my dodge isnt going up, what im doing wrong?
Im having the same issue. Only 3. Did something get changed in patch this week? I dont see anything listed.
shit game@@adamspohn6919
You have to take the node in the explosive trap specialization. It’s right above the node that reduces the damage and mana cost in the right
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
isnt going marksman better for dragonsong build?
think you can get higher dex with flaconer which is what increases the dmg of the spell using those boots, since you arent actually attacking with the bow specing into marksman is a waste
Can you please update the guide with BIS gear with max LPs? Also, I do not feel like this build is stronger thant he Detonating arrow_Explosive trap one......
its a bug one thats why detarrow is strong
21:25 I rebound Q skill to spacebar. feels much better
It seems like every time I watch a LE build video the same claims of "best damage ever", or "most tanky ever" always come up. I feel like one of the biggest weaknesses of LE is how hard it is to gauge how good your build is without spending ages pushing corruption. We really need a feature that shares corruption between characters. I like tinkering with builds in LE, but the idea that I need to invest hundreds of hours to simply find out how a build compares to a previous build breaks my spirit.
how do i let the shadows spawn ?
smoke screen nod, on the bottom left IIRC
no build showcase?
Bro that left half falconer passive makes the right end of tree druid endurance passive look like a joke. Did they even compare the passive tree to existing ones when making that class? It feels like it must've had 0 testing with stuff like that.
Edit: Nvm it says if you haven't been hit recently that's super relevant against repeated dmg.
this is another version of Raxxanterax's lightning trap build (great) :)
Nice😮
what i see is the bad mana management, what lvl of corruption do you reach?
I have a 3LP Dragonsong and 2LP Sphere banked... hmmmm
Bit bored of my standard Falconer playstyle so going to try this NOW :)
Can anyone who made this build and has a more updated build post it here?
18:56 lol 😂
Kripp: "Oh! This item seems useless!"
*Proceeds to break the game*
This does not break the game. This is a worse version of existing builds.
Kripp is an arpg/mmo legend, but he's obviously taking a 4fun, homebrew approach to Last Epoch. There's nothing wrong with that, except maybe his editor's clickbait titles, but all of his builds are either weak or untested. His char in this clip is 94 running 100 corruption lol, meta builds piloted by experienced players are 300+ at that point
@@EvolveEH I respecced my dive bomb falconer because i didnt like the playstyle. This build is not only fun to play,. but very easy to gear
@@SkorpioVenom good to hear. Still doesn't break the game
bro I thought I was tweaking hearing the random background shrieks at the start of the video....
지금 이 빌드를 사용하고있습니다 보기에있는 플래너 그대로 아이템 맞추면 됩니까? 업데이트됬나요? 전 한국팬입니다
To be honest I main Rogue and after I tried Falconer and leveled it to end game i deleted it and created a Blade dancer instead .. I didn't want to be accustomed to such broken playstyle because there's no way falconer will not get nerfed next cycle . Dragonsong and Reign of Winter bows are so much fun and strong but by just being a falconer they make any rogue skill seem broken
Falconer wont be nerfed, they have stated that they want to make every class about the same power as falconer/warlock. So other classes will just be buffed to match it
stop saying about broken... every build (almost) have good skills, that doesn't make them broken. Especially if it works like intended. Because many people just cry waaahaaa I don't do damage and there's a broken build 1, 2, 3... also don't compare your damage in echoes to dummy damage, it's completely different. I just hate, when some youtubers say every build is broken and make video, I guess it's just clickbait title but still.
Just made it to the HC leaderboard (29th, 4th overall falconer 1 player - and this was post fixes to acolyte/falconer which some of the leaderboard rankings were set prior to) with this build Kripp (modified for HC ofc!). Wasn't even well geared as I just wanted to go out with a bang at 100 before the PoE league tomorrow!
mourningfrost makes you mega squishy with -900 or whatever physical resist.
actually, if you look at the planner. he still got a good 50-60% physical and cold resist
The whole point is getting back to phy cap with mourning frost. If you're running mourning frost and not getting back to cap with phys resist, you're doing it wrong.
@@xPureAndTheTaintedxhe's talking about going up to 200 dex in the vid. you really finding 275 phys resist somewhere?
Funny how every build is "broken". Every build is strong! and fun! Besides there are plenty of other builds that are even better than this one, but it looks fun!
Yes this build does not do the most damage by far. It's click sit. Interesting build but nowhere near best. Kripp plays low corruption also
@@mustangroushjon it's not by far... how did you get this build do most damage? Wraithlord is like 1000x damage of this. Or you check the dummy damage? dummy doesn't have DR.... test in maps and bosses numbers.
@divinityai what are u saying? I said this build is not the most damaging build out there. Explosive detonating dagger build does a lot more. I'm in corruption 1000 and still melt bosses wit 1-2 lp
I think it’s crazy that people are saying this damage is low because they are comparing this to level 100 characters in 700-1000 corruption with super endgame gear. This build can do t4 dungeons and go past 200 corruption, and idk maybe it’s just me but that seems like a decent build. No build has to hit for millions of damage and clear 1000 corruption to be a valid build.
It is decent, but it is not, as the title and a reply claim, as broken as the other builds.
Enjoy the video, everyone!
I dont get why the man kripp who i feel like makes great builds keep saying strongest most broken highest damage... not even close ive seen delete bosses in 6 sec at 2k coreuption plz be more real with ehat u say
The builds that do this have 3 to 4lp in each slot. There is a massive gear difference. The build showcased has very basic gear, that when upgraded will perform similarly to the best builds in this case
@Kripparrian not true at all I have 2 lp detonating arrow and hitting way harder and just as many hits
ok well he has ZERO LP, zero UNIQUEs, non-crit based, not max level, etc. he went over this at the start of the video .. did you pay attention?
@@mustangroushjon
@chipskylark5500 I was doing 200 lp with same gear stop defending bad build
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Do another video when you can do more than uh...200 corruption. 200 doesnt tell us anything. I got baited by your Beastmaster ( crows dont stay alive, in high corruption they just dont) is this regard not doing it again.
Same thing happened to me 😂 I made the crows then shifted to squirrels and pushed 260, now thinking of switching to earthquake
Lol the damage is nothing compared to other broken builds
Ehg cooked a bit too much.
Imagine scaling cold damage on dragonsong instead of heorot's bow x)
Your builder is totally different from the one you are showing on video...
Bro I really like your Videos. I would love to see how you play your builds over at least 500 corruption. You talk like it’s nothing to play on 1000 corruption, but you get so much cc if you play over 500, that you drop damage for survivabilty. This build will never go to 1000 corruption…
'damage is absolutely absurd' - 2700 crits at lvl 94 vs non-corrupted monolith. Cmon Kripparrian, really ? 🤣
he is playing ssf so his gear is absolute bollocks but yes, there are people clearing 2000 corruption in few hits, I doubt his builds would do as well, there is a huge gap between 300-500 corruption and even 1000
he is also hp stacking on idols which probably comes from PoE habit of grabbing hp nodes, but does not really work the same in LE
I see a crit for 24910 crit at 2:09 (when he is blasting at the bottom of the screen) and many more at 10k+ in the gameplay.
for me it looks like every other build that is not broken like dive bomb or dog like a forge guard. just avergae 200c farmer. has he ever seen 1k corruption?
@@jasongoldberger1still too low tbh, i can crit around 350-400k with explosive ballistas lol but to be fair my gear is much better so theres that
compare this to dogshit Shaman and you would understand why people are so fed up with the unbalanced state of the game of the masteries.
So you basically did weaker version of trap - detonationg arrow Marksman
I will never understand this point of view. If one build is the strongest, should everyone play that build and just completely ignore everything else in the game? Meta isn't everything ffs
@@slowlearner46 No, but when it's so similar with Rogue class and Traps casts other skill, but this time it's not Detonatig arrow but Acid flask, than play style is almost identical, then it makes no sense to play a weaker build. In the build I mentioned, mana problems are even taken care of with a couple of unique daggers.
Sometimes you play for fun, remember?
@@raventk1987 what fun you mean? As I wrote it's almost identical play style only with lower numbers and worst mana management. Or you want play broken base class Rogue and tell about yourself that you are not meta slave cause you choose to play slightly weaker verision of meta build. 🙃😅
You say that as if it's factual. How exactly are you defining weaker? It has more mobility, it has more utility, not sure about the damage but you need to factor in the falcon damage, shadows and throwing speed. it's 4-6 shadows throwing 30% faster than the other build. Not sure Detonating has 6x the damage as this one does to compensate for that. It's way easier to stack lightning damage though, that's for sure. But if you're talking end game with 0 mana cost idk, as there is so many minute difference in the setup, like including cleansing ailments. Flasks also apply slow and armor break, which is another defensive layer and a more multiplier for damage which detonating arrow doesn't have (easy) access to. The only thing it doesn't do is ward, but it has several more defensive layers instead. It's also funny how that build is a Marksman build with 0 points in the Marksman tree. This build is waaaay easier to build as it has super easy gear requirements aside for the mana reduction rings compared to yours. Good luck building that one in SSF. Hell, even for party play this build is probably better as it full shreds, and doesn't simply stack lightning damage. So yeah sure, it might do more damage, maybe? But that doesn't really mean it's a 'stronger' build however...
PLAY A REAL FALCONER BIRDMAN
Detonsting srrow is just a better trap build
paladin is whats broken
my dmg is higher ;D
Falconer is going get fucked and made mediocre and boring like Marksman bow builds are now because all these streamers are calling it op. Melting bosses at 200 corruption isn’t anything special man. It’s a cool build and definitely glad you had fun doing your own thing but it’s nothing crazy and is harmful just throwing out words like OP for everything.
I'm a little sad to see this one come out, I've been playing this build for a while and it was a hidden gem. It is missing one item that really sets it off.
Bruh I hate streamers saying "this is the strongest build I've seen anyone post"... There are literally warlocks and falconer hitting for 😭200million! Krippbyou really need to do Ur research. Stop making claims
Right. Because if he's streaming, chances are, he's not critically online like you are to know this, genius. Give the man his props and move on.
@@djirukashi3992 huh? Did you just read what you typed out? You said he's a streamer and that he isn't critically online. Do you even know what streaming is? It's literally being online..
QQ
Kripp is actually the best builder in LE ..
Umm. Not broken at all 😂. Kripp hasnt played much last epoch. Try out detonating arrow marksman with blast knives and you'll know what broken is
stop saying "the most broken build blablablah,, " on 200 corruption run :v
Like many streamers, you announce that this build is broken, but you are not going to mess with the rankings, the only way to know if the build is strong is the rankings, but the majority of streamers do not do that, and prefer make catchy titles. No comment. However, you are one of the biggest H&S players.