Is Dark Souls 2 Really THAT Bad?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2022
- Is Dark Souls 2 Really THAT Bad?
Dark Souls 2 has been known to be the "worst" game out of the three in the souls series. Dark Souls 2 is my least played out of all the games so I decided to play it once again since I literally don't remember most of it. After playing for a bit I can see why it gets so much hate... but is it really THAT bad?
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Dumb soul 2
@@rarefishtycoon6430 come on, let's do another game. Let it die sudaverse.
@@rarefishtycoon6430 you spelled it wrong, it's called "best souls 2"
Don’t know why I’ve never tuned into the stream.. Definitely chiming in next time!
No
I'm glad to see someone play Dark Souls 2 and not decided it was the worst shit they played before trying it, barely trying, dying and then using that as confirmation. I really do, thanks Skumnut.
The Bandit starting with 1 INT is fucking hilarious, he's one of the best classes to start with to get minimum requirements for boss weapons but his 1 INT causes Straid to feel sorry for him 'cause he's too stupid for anything he has, he genuinely sounds sorry for you when you talk to him. It's even funnier when you find out the minimum you need is 3 INT. L M A O
im actually really enjoying it fr
If he were smarter he wouldnt have turned to crime.
I just started it today and Im really excited im aiming for a hexer/pyro and Im happy that im going to have more options for my pyro than I had in the other games
Among many games ds2 is amazing.
Sweet Shalquoir is best npc.
Hoh Hoh! What's happened to you?
You have that glint in your eyes.
And the scent…Of one with quite the catalog of sins…
Oh, don't feel bad. I'm sure your mother's still proud…Hee Hee!
All the energy and money went into the intro cut scene to this game, it looks incredible.
Have you seen the trailers for this game?
It’s CGI. Of course it looks great. That isn’t game graphics, that’s just animated by an animation studio bruh
@@tehCostHD your point being?
@@oceanman6375 because he said all the time and budget went into this, even though the game developers didn’t even make this lol. It’s made by a CG animation company…
@@tehCostHD Yea guess who pays that company...
“Ya’ll wanna see gameplay? I’ll show you gameplay” 7:40
boldened by the flame of ambition.
someone must extinguish thy flame
Someone should extinguish thy flame
When I first got into fromsoft games I played dark souls 1, then bloodborne, then ds3 etc. Whilst waiting for ER and the demons souls remake to come out I decided to try out ds2 and had extremely low expectations. Whether or not they played a factor is debatable but I was astounded as to how much I enjoyed the game despite all of the popular hateful opinions about it. Its different sure but it felt niche rather than poorly crafted. Funnily enough after Elden Rings release considering it took a lot from dark souls 2 I was actually disappointed because they seemed to actually be worse than they where in dark souls 2. Where Bloodborne and dark souls 1 are my absolute favorites, dark souls 2 is for certain in second place from my perspective.
Try Sekiro if you haven’t, it’s my favorite fromsoft game by a mile and i have tried Bloodborne, Ds3, Ds1 and Elden Ring
@@OscarDeLaHoyad
Difference being that Sekiro is a wildly different game than the others.
Kinda hope Fromsoft branches out again like they did with Sekiro.
ER and ds2 have nothing in common what do you mean
@@blackvalio4060 ER has powerstancing and twinblades, it's literally Dark Souls II II
@@heartbeat4atinman ER has every good mechanic from every game they have done before. Its not a ds2 exclusive. So i guess by your logic is dark souls 1,2,3,bloodborne,sekiro 2
Personally I find dark souls 2 to be the worst of the souls franchise. I don’t think it’s a bad game though just worse than the others. I’d rather play ds2 than most other games out there.
And here we are again. Dark Souls 2, my poor little child, I will always love you no matter what anyone say.
Ds2 is awesome, the weapons were amazing. Even the hardcore covenant, where if you reach rank 30, you get buffed fists doing about 300 damage.
DS2 has grown on me over time. I still dont like how every enemy encounter is just a gank in a really awkward enviornment. But it really stands out as its own style of souls game. And I really like how lonely the game feels.
If DS2 enemy encounter are all Ganks, then ds1, ds3 and bloodborne are literal gangbangs. And don't get me started on Elden Ring.
This excuse has been used way too much and it's literally blaming ds2 for something that they actually didn't change from ds1. Come on, seriously guys?
@@areallybadgamer3042 imo the ganks are more annoying in ds2, you may feel differently
Yeah I think in ways I like it better than DS3. Like DS3 was more about the boss fights and DS2 is more about the journey than the destination.
@@areallybadgamer3042 no man, they’re worse in DS2.
@@hheshhhhsh5959 especially when you finally find King Vendrick.
I'm one of the weird fans where this is still my favourite souls game, being able to poise vs bosses felt fantastic, now this game definitely had it's issues, but it had so many viable playstyles
How many of those were 'fun'
@@cobble3317 the playstyles? Almost all of them, you could rock a heavy build with high poise and greatswords power stances, or a quick dual katana, or single scythe build, hell dex/str and the fist weapons was my favourite, magic was just op, only faith really wasn't fun.
@@michellamoureuxm Poise working is case enough for me to try this out at least
@@cobble3317 right? If you get the havels set with decent endurance, with the two handed buff of a giant weapon, you can outpoise bosses, people hated it in pvp. Make sure if you're new level adp a lil, it makes rolling better
@@cobble3317 I'd suggest getting adp to level 20 as quick as you can as it makes all animations faster
Dark Souls II looks amazing for it being made like 2014
thats like, 50 years ago
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are you kidding me? game looks like ass.
@@granimations2510 you didn't get the joke
@@deepwokensucks8664 it wasn't funny
One thing I love about Shalquoir (the cat) is that she's voiced by Hannah John-Kamen, who I am down terribly for. I would unironically commit unspeakable acts to have her talk to me like she does in game, even for just a minute.
Best comment of the year
I like how this is a legit argument for why you like the game.
My man its been 11 months. Hope youre ok
Playing dark souls 2 is like punching someone in the face and then he called the rest of his gang to beat you up during recess at school canteen.
Bloodborne > DS3 > Elden Ring > DS2 > DS1
Bought it recently and thought it was gonna be shit from what everyone was saying. 30 hours later and I'm loving the game
Best Souls 2 baby!
Hating on ds2 is trendy. People only hate on it because other people started hating on it. In reality it's an amazing game and deserves none of the vicious hate it gets (although it is very flawed though lol)
@@dredgalyst flawed but amazing
@@dredgalyst It's extremely close but I think DS2 is actually my fav, it has the most playtime too. DS1 is the first I played so I have to love it, so I think DS3 is actually my least fav, hot take I guess lol -- like I said they're all very close and it means nothing
@@user-je2yq7ru8w all the souls games are great and all but it's hilarious to hear people whine about too many enemies and harsh bosses in two.
And then one is like legit just environmental deaths are 90 percent of your deaths in a run.
Dark souls one would probably turn alot of people away and for good reason.
The amount of parkour in that game combined with the poor control compared to other from software games legit is hilarious.
Idk my take is it's hilarious that people overlook a major problem with dark souls one that probably is why most players quite the parkour and environmental deaths.
But then see certain bullshit aspects of two and start listing reasons the game is an afront to God.
Your channel is really under rated. I legit think your channel just needs that magic algorithm boost and you would blow up. Either way I’m loving the souls content
Watch videos in 0.25 speed
The biggest problem with ds2 is that you have to get that one stat that governs the I frames when you roll up to like 25 before you can dodge properly. If you up that stat first then focus on the others it will change your play through drastically.
I started and did not touch adp at all, I somehow beat the game, but damn did it suck sometimes to roll(Didn’t make me have much hate towards the game at least). Level adp early, made the difference on my second play through.
Same here my first playthrough was with nothing skilled into adaptability...
I did the same thing on my first play through.
See, I dont really agree with that. I played through the game amd did the dlcs without touching ADP once. And not once did I feel like I truly needed it to prosper. (Obviously it'd make for an easier time, but it didn't feel necessary)
It's not a problem, it's designed that way intentionally so you can't have a character that's just good at everything early. You can't dump points into being tanky, having damage, and being able to dodge everything. You have to prioritize rather than being just given invincibility.
00:02 Gamer discovers pre-rendered cutscenes
Skumnut, just recently got into watching your channel, and happy to see you're liking DS2. Now you gotta get that Chicken Leg club in the Iron King DLC
Its decent, it has some huge problems and flaws, but also has some great moments, and amazing dlc, Majula(BEST HUB), some really good characters, a few great bosses, pretty good pvp, best fashion souls. 7.5/10, just my opinion though. Also, Amber Herb only run when?!?!?!!?!!??!!!?!!?
It doesn't have huge problems. It has minor problems and a few changes which the fans of the previous game can't handle.
Hello Mr Winks. Glad to see some gentlemen in this comment section.
Gonna be completely honest here ds2 is neither a bad nor good game it’s just meh in my opinion like a 6/10 by itself but when compared to the other souls it’s like a 4/10 for me but it’s still worth a few playthroughs so like overall it’s 5/10 and if anyone says it’s complete dogshit or that its perfect and are unwavering with those opinions they’re probably just not worth the conversation I’ve certainly dealt with a few of those people both irl and online they’ve all been pretty bad experiences
Can confirm. Just because you like something doesn’t mean it’s perfect, and just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s garbage.
DS2 will go down as the most over-hated game in recent history. It definitely has things worth criticizing, but it’s still better than most AAA games that came out in its time. I have and will always love DS2.
Its nowhere near as hated as many claim, if you want the most overhated game this isnt it, go look at something like TLOU2(Not saying its amazing), I will say Ds2 is the most criticized for sure, but majority do not hate it. Also, does not help that those who dont like it and fans of ds2 are so vocal they drown out most criticism or praise, or take it as an idiot praising trash or an idiot hating on pure gold. Anyways, I must say ds2 is a solid 7.5/10 for me, and from what I see that is pretty average. Though I will say its dlc did totally outshine the game, and its levels sometimes reminded me of Ds1’s later half, still it has many great moments, great pvp, amazing build variety, and some classic bosses that are memorable and fun. I will say it definitely is better than a lot of AAA games, but then again not to high of a bar lately these past couple years.
it really isn't. It deserved a lot of the criticism it received. maybe not all of it but most of it.
It's the most hated dark souls game.
It was also nominated game the year it was released. I am shocked dragon age Inquisition won. But ds2 is no sloucher. It earned its awards.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 Yeah Inquisition winning is still the most confusing GOTY pick of all time
Of all From Software games I have played DS2 is the only one I didn't finish. The reason for this is simple, I felt like FS had a brainstorming session after finishing DS1 around "what can we do to make DS better" and then they had 1 billion different ideas and could not exclude any of them and just added all without considering which would work well together. I got bored and gave up after finding my twentieth enormous boss that insta-killed me with blunt force trauma after running around trying desperately to find some humanity so that I would not have 1 hp. However, I will acknowledge that I had some of the most awesome Dark Souls moments in DS2 so it was not all bad.
While DS2 is probably my least favourite in the series, it definitely isn't a bad game and I've warmed to it over the years. It's a very fun game and I think probably has the best build variety in the series (before Elden Ring at least) and that has to give it some points. It is definitely not without its many problems (hitboxes, ganks, lame bosses, difficulty for difficulty's sake etc.) but all the games in the series have problems and I think many people are way too harsh on it.
I just finished dark souls 2 for the first time yesterday. And I love how my reactions at these parts were most identical
I have tried so badly to like this game, but I can’t. I just feel like I die more to the bullshit and spam than anything actually well designed.
There's some meme stuff like ADP and Soul Memory the actual gameplay isn't nearly as bad as people say. Though there's definitely severe flaws like every Souls game
Bro, I made it to the first of giants or whatever and the amount of enemies that popped made me wonder if I was playing cod zombies or dark souls.
I never touched this game from it's reputation alone, bought it last month on sale and its stopped me playing Elden Ring. The sheer amount of builds and depth is insane. Even bare fists is viable. Sure the gank can be cruel but you won't fall for the same shit twice. Fantastic game with a unfair reputation.
Dark Souls 2 had its problems on release, which SOTFS fixed the vast majority of - but the deep truth is that most of the flak this game catches is because it's not Dark Souls 1: Again
If it had a different brand name, it probably wouldn't have the rep it does
@@DistributionMackerel that doesn't make any sense since people literally criticize DS3 for being too much like DS1
@@spideyfan1024 My dude, I was there for both games pre-release and launch; I still remember the gamefaqs board getting clogged on DsII opening day with awful takes about it not being DsI. What you said is true in that Ds3 gets a lot of complaints for aping a lot from the first game, but that doesn't mean that the complaints about DsII didn't happen, just that the bigger a series community gets, the more schizo it can act, which holds true to this day
even *today* you can go on the Dks2 or 3 reddits to talk about those games and you will still see these complaints for them
@@DistributionMackerel doesn't matter, my point is that their are much much more complaints people have other than "it's not ds1"
@@spideyfan1024 ok
A lot of quality moments in this one. Amber herb...the move camera tutorial stone...and much more. Classic skumnut!
I love dark souls 2 and it's the main game I return to, I'm not sure what it is but there's just something different about 2 which always draws me back and always gets me to play it again. If any of the souls games gets the blue point treatment going forward I hope it's ds2 thought ds1 would still be appreciated man imagine these games looking like their cinematic openings.
On God Id be squeeling if bluepoint picked this up. I love this game for its sheer magic selection. Things like Soul Vortex and the entirety of the Hex category just make me super happy as a magic lover.
Honestly, this is my first souls game ... and my favorite !
Ive finished it a more that 14 times ... still goated
Krispy Kreme gives free doughnuts when the red light is on
I really hope sumo gesture is still there. That gesture alongside with modded havel or ported it to elden Ring as secret gesture would make it as best game ever.
My favorite Souls game; too many good memories to count. Fun PvP and co-op (RIP PC servers), and a lot of fun and viable build options to mess around with.
How can co-op be good if we can’t properly play with friends
@@BlackBeardedDuck i mean; it WAS. First souls game to implement a way to get around the whole soul memory system with a ring slot item. As for it being fun; well, just watch Happy Souls.
PC got borked thanks to the servers getting taken down. Namco Bandai also seems reluctant to even fix the online for the first 3 souls games either. So if you wanna play with buddies; stick to console. If we're lucky; once development for Elden Ring's DLC and patches wraps up, they may take a look at the problem. Maybe. . . who knows with Bamco.
DS2 was my first Souls game so it has a special place in my heart
i never got past dragonrider because i sucked at the cheese and just now, 3 years later, i find out you had to go down💀
I mean he's not that hard of a boss fight to begin with. I think the cheese strat is you count him taking 7 steps towards you and then just go around his shield side and he'll lunge off.
what is the music playing in the background in the beginning? someone help, it's been haunting me
This is the first video of yours ive watched, and it is absolutely godam hilarious! Please continue with this playthrough, show ds2 some love.
8:10 God please tell me that's not a euphamism and just the food 🥺
DS2 was the first fromsoft game I played (elden ring is the second) and it is one of my most played games on steam. It’s far from perfect but it felt like a solid starting point because the combat was slow giving me enough time to really learn ever enemy. It’s a solid game, it’s not as good as the other ones from what I have seen, but it is still a very solid game.
13:58 that door is a shortcut. you can jump from the ledge in the other side to there.
Glad I discovered your channel bro
I always spoke well about how there aren't any I-frames in the game and how that caused a different approach to combat. Imagine my face when people told me years later that ADP gives you more I-frames. This was unironically my first souls game and I've always stayed just baserly outside of range, weaving in and out instead of rolling in Souls games ever since.
It was the first one I played and I honestly don't get the hate for it, I agree it's probably the shittiest of them all but it's hardly the worst game ever or anything.
The only gripe and I mean the only gripe I've ever had with this game is the hitboxes sometimes messing up the spacing with enemies or players, its literally always like one inch farther than how far you think you are to hit something.
"Wanna see some gameplay" *rolls to death* 😅
I thought the first one was the worst.
ds2 gets way more hate lol
The first one is strange to me because everything before talking to the queen is incredible. Afterwards the second half of the game is unbearable, a first full playthrough is worth it but sheesh
Hey skumnut your content is amazing I love watching your videos all the time! Keep making these videos they are great!
I beat most of DS2 (besides Eluem Loyce) truly blind, and spent like 300 hours on one character back when I was on Xbox. One of my favorite games of all time, even if some aspects are infuriating.
Early gang but also literally my favorite souls game
When I played ds2 I tried to make Guts and there was a fire gernade spell I was trying to get for his arm cannon and I lost the spell but pulling a random lever. Only way to get the spell is to replay the game in ng+ and that was the last time I played ds2. That was years ago.
I played DS2 around the start of it's release, so i didn't see much hate and loved it since, my main weapon in vanilla was Mundane Santiers spear when it was broken
DS2 is an unfinished mess.
It feels like "Demon Ruins - The Game" and every enemy is the Bed of Chaos.
I didn’t know there was a tutorial there and there was no bonfire in the pit. Maybe because I missed the tutorial. Only just started anyway.
I like that the bandit class is legitimately stupid. It even fits with what sort of person becomes a career criminal.
2:49 quadale dingle
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OMG ur BK lol! Incredibly funny to watch - 100% you are the game journalist of DS2
Dark souls 2 was easily the most fun I’ve had playing through a dark souls game with a friend. Whenever we finished the game we genuinely had no idea why it was so hated
Dark Souls 2 was my first dip into the Soulsborne series. Ah, I still remember the time I didnt know my Cleric could two hand the mace, and instead ran around punching Hollows with my chime instead.
Skumnut's the only guy to nearly die before he even starts the game.
Man, I love this game, you can play this as messed up as you want, and as long as you put effort, is viable, I beat the entire game without armor or weapons(and without ADP, but that is because the translation team put RES as the abbreviation in my language, so i thought it was resistance, and ignored, because I didn't want to waste points in defense when I am naked anyway), and I'm usually average to bad in those games, I also beat the bosses in a other save powerstancing the 2 great shields from undead crypt, I remember being 1 shot by the giant lord when I was farming him, and asking myself "how the hell I avoid this attack?" Then I remember that shields can be used to defend
...then I fight him without the lock on, and it was way easier to see and avoid his attacks.
Game is fine. I started playing it 3 days ago (long time souls veteran) and I am having fun (till Elden ring DLC). I shouldn’t have stayed so many years away from it due to bad ratings. I find it being better than DS1. While it is a bit incoherent and bit empty at times, it is overall a pretty packed souls experience but it lacks the Miyazaki factor for sure.
I’m always scared to say this, but I personally love ds2, now I didn’t always feel that way, it took a couple play throughs to understand that you have to play 2 different from the others, if you play the same way you play 1 and 3 you’re gonna have a bad time, at least in my experience
Also yea the run to chariot and the fight itself is awful, I beat it on my first play through and I’ve skipped it everytime afterward cause of how much fun I didn’t have
Ds2 is hated for being a good sequel. And by that I mean it's hated because it added and changed things to not make it just a copy of Ds1 just like Ds3 and Elden Ring did
@@areallybadgamer3042 i hope this is a joke, its hated cause it has really shitty mechanics and poor design choices
I love how they make it obvious they don't want you to have the same playstyle from the first game just by watching how the enemies attack you
@A Realky Bad Gamer. Its hated by a smaller group because it has pretty bad mechanics, its buggier than the rest often, has some terribly designed levels, and many mediocre and bad bosses. Still its positives make it decent, but its not the perfect sequel you are treating it as, especially since your only defende is ds1 and ER have some reused assets, but when you think or it ds2 is just ds1 with a twist of no Gwyn at the end, it even also reuses assets like the other games do, that is FromSoftwares thing, and ER is really not Ds1, it’s similar in really basic plot points for a few, but changes a lot quickly, then goes back into ds1 a bit with someone burning themselves, then goes and does what ds2 did and branches off but in a different way. Think about it, all of them are ds1, even Sekiro and Bloodborne are ds1. Also, hate is rooted in a reason often times, never because your w of everyone hating ds2, most of us like the game even, or think its ok, its that any criticism is taken as toxic idiotic hate. A small group truly hate the game, saying its hated for being a good sequel is like saying the Star Wars Sequel trilogy is hated for being great, its not, its hated for being a sequel that betrays its core fanbase, but with ds2 it didnt want that, the creators were going to give us a better product, but 2 years got taken off development, along with them being forced to launch on at the time last gen aka ps3 and 360 instead of ps4 and xbox one. But hey, got to be the heroic white knight in your basement I guess, defending a game and hating all who criticize it, and yes it is a good game, and yes you should have your own opinion, but the line is drawn at making crap up and spewing literal lies.
ds2 has to be played more like an rpg than the others, stats are a lot more important in 2 i agree, hence why the sl1 run for this game is so painful, it is my favorite dark souls game and probably my favorite game of all time
Answer:
No
..and yes.
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10:25 my hamster became super man
It's not "that bad" it's just not up to par with any other Fromsoft soulslike.
Nice DSP gameplay Mr. Nut, truly left me in awe
Rip to the rock that taught me camera movements 🤧🤧
It is 100% the worst souls game..but In no way is it a bad game at all, I think people need to understand how high the bar is at fromsoft, this game was developed by the Bteam while the A team worked on bloodborne and you know what I enjoy the shit out of ds2, I think it's a great game at the bottom of a list of other great games. If that makes sense 😅
you should attempt a kukri/throwing knife only elden ring run
man not even me spending 7 fucking hours at the forest of the fallen giants on my first playthrough had that skill issue 😭😭😭
If anyone has the OG version for ps3(not SOTFS) if you go to Majula and go behind the world death count statue(if messages can still appear) can someone tell me if the message that says “visions of happiness” is still there?.. it’s my message and I wrote that the day my mother died..this was the only game she watched me and my brother beat and it holds a special place in my heart. She loved the view of the water I wrote it almost a decade ago Love you all❤️
It's the (second?) best and the worst at the same time.
Best or second best multi-player (depending on where you rank the first Dark Souls). I spent ungodly hours hunting other players down all across the world, using all sorts of goofy troll builds and such. Back then, invading was great because there was so much variety. You never knew what you were gonna get. And damage wasn't so high that you had to 1-shot other players to succeed. I also loved getting invaded because, again, so much more variety when 1-shot capability isn't mandatory to pull W's.
And co-op is good too, of course, though for me that gets boring pretty fast.
But as a strictly single-player game, it was by far the worst of Souls, BB, Sekiro, and Elden Ring.
lmao what ds1 has the worst multiplayer what are you talking about
@@minecraftmaster12245 Elaborate.
@@minecraftmaster12245 idk man Soul Memory sounds pretty f*cked up to me. None of the trilogy are perfect but letting hosts be invaded by higher level players AND not being able to summon because your friend bought some arrows? Sheesh
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*Points to 1 intelligence*
12:39
*Points to 1 intelligence again*
My god you are the funniest person I have ever seen
If you kill the necromancers in the chariot fight, the skeletons will stop respawning
As a standalone Game? No. As a member of the Souls family? Yes.
11:45, the timing was perfect
"It's not even touching me" ds2 unoffical slogan
When I started playing the souls series I started with ds3 then ds1 remastered elden ring and now ds2 and its not actually the worst game excited to play bloodborne next tho
I really frickin want a DS2 Remaster. I think it would be fucking amazing if they could rework the world DS2 created, and help alleviate some of the issues it had.
Now that I know you can't swim in Dark Souls ... all my characters are now Tyrone.
Skumnut you should do a Dagger only playthough on Elden ring :)
I didn’t know skum was partnering with ign for this video congrats skumnut
It may not be the best Dark Souls game. And it does have some fucking annoying things. But... It's still enjoyable.
No it’s not that bad, it’s just different. Still a very fun game, anyone who’s on the fence and loves the souls series go ahead and play this one
DS2 is the worst Fromsoft game, but that still makes it one of the greatest games of the past decade. The pvp was some of the most fun I've had in any videogame.
Based on my experience: DS 2 is overhated, tbh I enjoy it as much as DS 1
Ds2 was the first dark souls game I ever played, it's what made me fell in love with from software and tho the game does have it problems, it will always have a special place in my heart
16:20 lmao I beat it on my first ever try, it doesn't suck
Yeah, he never kills the witch that revives the skeletons, doing that makes it a whole lot more enjoyable
This game invented the chariots... I now understand why it is the worst Dark Souls...
no
I feel like the title to this should be am I really so bad at dark souls 2
That is Doctor Proctor at home
I love ds2 but I always preferred vanilla to scholar, the enemy placement in scholar is very odd
Can't wait for him to get to shrine of amana
2:44 mans IS the fluted helm from demons souls fr fr
Should we tell him about the Shrine of Amana?
ds2 is so underrated
I’ve been playing it for the first time recently and it is pretty frustrating at time but overall I’ve been enjoying it.