WARNING THIS ISNT MEANT TO BE AN EDUCATIONAL VIDEO ON HOW TO PROPERLY INSTALL, WIRE AND SET UP A DUAL BATTERY SYSTEM - this is just what I did with Tony and I have no idea what I'm doing. If you are an expert and want to tell us how shit it is and how much better you would have done then just reply to this pinned comment, that way we can keep all the comments in one spot for me to screen shot and have a laugh with my mates. Here's the Kickass products we used - www.australiandirect.com.au/Battery-Systems/AGM-Deep-Cycle-Batteries/KA12120Slim www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-1200w-pure-sine-wave-digital-inverter/KAI1200WPD www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-25a-dc-charger-with-anderson/KADCDC25A-AND
Mate, that's not how you wire a discombobulator block. You need to flip the scramble to top side and then you push the inconverter lengthwise. Jesus flaming Christ, people these days..
Don't worry about the haters. I've been a sparky for 19 years the wankers that focus solely on making things look nice, fuck everything else up royally! (Loose connections, improper fuse locations, and the main one is tightly bunched and cable tied wiring which de-rates the cable and it gets hot)
Hey bud I suggest getting your solar setup sorted before you go for a second battery, either a hardmounted panel or a blanket you can plug in and see how that goes first. Keep up the awesome work!
Hey mate, yep we actually got a 250watt safiery global solar blanket from drifa we took to tassie and worked a treat. I reckon ill upgrade to lithium in the near future still though to give me a bit more power, rather then having two second batteries
@@TylerThompson90 Any battery bigger than 120AH will suffice as long as you have a charger that can keep up with charging it. Rule of thumb is if your battery setup is under 200AH capacity, stick with a 25A DC Charger, but if it's over, you'll need to step up to a 40A charger. In that case, I'm going to suggest an Intervolt DCC Pro, as they have different charging profiles, a smaller footprint for mounting and all wiring is terminated with battery lugs, rather than a prewired plug setup, so if anything goes wrong with the unit, it's an easy swap out and replace. Also compatible with your smart alternator. 👍
The same company that does my solar blanket have a new slimline lithium battery out that will fit behind the back seat so thinking of upgrading to that at some stage. Its only 100AH but will still give me more power then the 120AGM plus charge quicker and lighter
Cable gland the rear to put things into tub, opening the rear vent to put cables will let dust through and allow water ingress because vent has rubber that opens and closes as required for cabin pressure to allow doors to close.
Hey mate nice vid. Those large gold fuses and fuse holders in my opinion are not upto the off road job. The caps on the fuses break and make it hard to fault find. Much better off using maxi or terminal fuses. Just my 2 cents worth mate. Keep up the good work.
Hey mate, okay sweet, thanks for the tip! Ill change them around when I get a chance, probably change over to a lithium battery in the near future so will do it then
Imo ive done more corrigated roads then i have hot dinners and mine have held up 4 years not a single blown fuse. Not sure where you're taking your 4x4 id like to know MS P 🤣.
Awesome stuff Tyler mate, it's your bakkie you can do the installation any way you want, but it's an bloody awesome job 👍👍👍 Keep the good stuff coming, you're doing an bloody awesome job with your videos!!!
Hi Tyler, just one thing, i'm pretty sure the Navara being brand new would have a smart alternator. if it does the blue overide wire needs to be connected to an ignition source in order for the charger to work correctly as the new alternators vary their voltage up and down for emissions so the charger needs to compensate for this. just my two cents. john
Yeah I think so mate, I'm pretty sure it's the wire that the mechanic thought was for using the aux battery to start the car in the case of a flat start battery. It's actually a trigger wire for the charger 👍
Tyler what you need to add to your system is a battery monitor that measures current going in and out. It is good to know the exact status of your battery, voltage is not good enough. I have a cheap one off eBay but maybe you could get your Drifta mates to get you a Victron one. Also when you go solar there are pro's & con's but I like my permanently attached solar system, no mucking around putting up solar panels around the place.
Hey mate, so i've since got one of the safiery global solar blankets off Drifta which I'm using at the moment, probably upgrade to a permanently mounted solar at some stage. And yep try get one of those monitors you mentioned
Good basic usable system Tyler. Functionality over looks. Just don't get stuck in water and flood the cab, the inverter may swim the electrify the vehicle. 👍👍
Hey mate, The blue wire on the DC-DC charger isnt a "overide" for jump starting. It is an ignition sense wire. This is to be connected to an ignition activated positive to overcome the variable voltage issue with new vehicles fitted with "smart" alternators. You should connect that wire to get the best out of your charge possible .👍👍
Hey mate, yep someone else pointed that it too, got the car booked in for a service tomorrow so will definitely fix it up then. Thanks for the help mate, appreciate it!
Great set up, have done the same in my Nav. I mounted all my fuses and another Anderson plug under the rear seat base. The seat base just lifts up, so for connections or fuse issues you don’t have to unbolt the seat back. Just an idea 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Tyler, a great use of space having the battery located in what is normally wasted space behind the rear seat. With the 2nd battery being ‘donated’ to your Dad, get him to look up ‘Low Range Nick’ on TH-cam. He has been building a MU-X like your dads and has an episode installing a dual battery set-up in the rear adjacent to his fridge Cheers
Great video bud, iv got a 79 series LCruiser, i installed a Projecta IDC25 Dc-Dc Solar (same as yours but different brand), its an incredible setup and have been off grid for about 3 weeks with 2 50ltr fridges, didnt have to turn the car on once, im running a 250watt solar panel, thoses fuses you have, I've been using for about a year now, not 1 issue. Good stuff🤙🤙
Good onya mate , I managed to fit a 145 behind the seat of my Colorado charged solely by 240w solar panel on my roof , runs small Fridge and camp lights no worries , would like to set up bcdc one day , great use of space -just can’t fit my rifles behind seat now
Great vid mate. Just reading thru the other comments and there’s some worthwhile suggestions. At the end of the day you set up how you think will work for you and you make adjustments along the way. I’ve set up a basic 12v system for mine and I’m picking up tips on how to improve my own set up as time goes on. It does what I want it to go and that’s all that counts.👍
Thanks for the video so happy you showed this I had a bad experience with an installation that went wrong. I would appreciate if at some point you can do a quick video how to take the rear seat out Cheers
Good spot for it, I also used alot of gear from kickass, not bad fot the $$$, LVDC aswell, good setup, highly recommend a good solar panel/blanket as you have the plug and play capability, has changed my game for me 👌 looking forward to the tassie series.
Nice one mate, thats a good use of that space behind the seat. Its always hard to find a good spot for the battery, not sure where you will get the other one in
I know it’s hell expensive, but Lithium will sort you out big time. Lighter, can be discharged heavily keeping the voltage higher throughout and it’s safer. Also they hold thousands of cycles, you’re going to go thru three/four AGM by the time you have to swap a lithium.
Fantastic setup looks neat enough but you can't keep everyone happy, the second battery is what it needs for sure. Jaycar are doing some neat fold up solar panel at the moment, the 200 or the 260 watt one's would be the go. you could make a anderson to anderson plug Ext lead to get the length needed to get it out to the tub, then just plug the panel straight in. $300 for panel and wiring, perfect for when the car isn't moving :)
Thanks mate! Appreciate it :) Yep I've actually got a solar blanket now I used on our recent trip away, worked well and definitely helped. Got a safiery global one from drifta
Awesome job all mine is in the tub i do have a solar panel so not too worried about hooking up to the main battery but awesome vid might go for the slims as well save some room
Not bad mate. IMO you will need both batteries. From memory those Kickass AGM batteries are only designed to discharge about 30-35 amps. Which at 12Vdc only gives you 420 watts. Not even close to what’s required to run that inverter. Definitely change them fuses to a Midi fuse style. You desperately need to install a Low Voltage Disconnect to the AGM battery. Kickass do a Cool unit with Anderson plugs pre fitted. Set up a high amp (200 + amp) 12v relay to turn the inverter on and off. Have the switch setup to trigger the relay from the low voltage disconnect protected side. Otherwise nice job 👍
So think I'm just going to upgrade to a 100amp lithium battery when I can mate, obviously a lot more money but should work better for me. Thanks for all the tips!
Tyler Thompson that’s the go. I run a 125A lithium with the kickass dcdc charger. Hopefully you can find a slimline lithium to replace the agm. That’s a good use of space for the battery.
All you need is 1 x 100 amp lithium bud. As much power as 2 of those AGMs. Only weighs 11kgs, holds 13v all day, and can charge from 0 to 100% in a couple of hours. They’re brilliant
The quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten! She’s all good mate. At least your building a side business around the space and could see a return on your investment.
Nice job. I've recently set up a second battery system in a camper trailer and it is indeed a money pit! I have a couple of observations, you can do what you want with them! I notice you haven't put a tub liner in the back of the ute - I can't recommend them highly enough, stops the tray getting scratched and then rusting. Second thing, yeah that inverter has to come off the floor! You might not plan on flooding the cabin, but you never know! Especially if you go to places like the Cape, etc. Could you maybe mount it to the back of your centre consol, standing up? Some sort of protective cover on it so Kai doesn't kick it?!
Thanks mate, appreciate all the information! I don't think it would fit there to be honest but I can have a look, thats where I normally put my camera bag though for easy reach haha always hard trying to navigate everything. I'm hoping to get a tray set up this year so when I do ill move it into there I reckon
Thanks mate, yeah I had the same concern haha just hard to find anywhere to put it, will hopefully get a tray set up in the future and change it to there. Ive never flooded a 4wd before so hopefully don't anytime soon
Awesome vid mate been racking my brain all week trying to work out my 12v, I actually just bought the same kickass inverter!! Just had a thought careful with your inverter under your feet in case you flood ya rig in a deep boggy or crossing!! I speak from experience 😂
Thanks mate! Yep I'm hoping to not flood my 4wd haha never have before. Id say ill change it into the tray when I get a better set up in there down the track
Love your Videos Tyler, As mentioned, I would change those fuse terminals over as i used to use those in my old car (granted they were in the engine bay) but after a few years they started cracking and falling apart. You might not have that issue being its away from the heat of the engine bay, but Worth changing over in my opinion. I would also look at running a Lithium Battery for what you are doing. I currently have a 120AH lithium battery but may downsize in my new Jeep Wrangler Rubicon to a 60AH lithium battery for space saving and I would say it would still have more safe capacity out of that than the 120AH AGMs.. plus you'll save quite a bit of weight. If you wanted to get super fancy, you could have a custom built lithium battery to fit into a small area, but may not be worth the trouble for most people haha. Good luck with your adventures and hopefully one day i can go for a drive with you, you seem to find a lot of good spots =D
Thanks mate, appreciate it! :) Yep so I've got my eye on a 100amp slimline lithium battery that will fit behind the back seat so will hopefully upgrade to that sometime soon and will probably change the fuses over then too
I like everything in this video except him recommending soldering rather then crimping the anderson plug. Crimp is much better... less resistance, longer lasting, and easier.. Great video man!
Think I'm going to upgrade to a 100amp lithium battery soon mate, they can use 80-90% of their charge, lighter and charge faster. Just about 5 times the price haha
I like this idea....looked at doing it this week. Located in Vic, but after checking with VicRoads Engineer & a VASS Engineer....doesn't seem it is road legal in Vic to have a sealed AGM in the cab (behind the seats).....therefore insurance is void.
Hey mate I’m in port , would like to show you my setup one day in my dmax if you have some time I done all mine inside the tub ( I do have a canopy though ) but done the whole lot myself , Ctek dc dc charger plus 140 ah Battery works a real treat and didn’t cost me an arm and a leg
Hey mate, Im often down town beach or lighthouse beach so if you see me around then pull up and id be keen to see the set up. Im actually going down to Drifta over the next week or two to change a couple of things with the system
All good mate will do , yeah I gotta get down there myself one day I met Luke down the Hawkesbury river rest area a few weeks back a nice bloke want to check out his drifta bag for our oz tent wifey and I are doing a six week trip over to WA starting mid September 👍🏻👍🏻
Gunna be awesome , we just got back from a flying trip to tassie spent a week down the Hobart end , I see you’ve done a trip down there I’ll be keen to check your episodes on that love that place gotta go back with MAX and do the rest
A mistake I made was.....with the solar panel I connected to my ctek and ctek smartpass I didn't realise I needed to cut the wires that went into the solar panel regulator. What was happening was the panel with a cheap PMW regulator was putting out about 15 amps, the solar panel regulator was gobbling up 4 or 5 of those amps and then to Ctek with a MPPT regulator was eating up more of amps so only about 5 or 6 amps were actually making it to the battery to charge. To solve the problem I simply cut the wires in and out of the solar panel regulator and soldered them together to by-pass the cheap regulator that came with the panel. Hope that is helpful if you didn't know already. Bet you are pleased with how the beast is coming together.
Hey mate, so I've got a solar blanket I'm using now and with mine it has its own solar controller that by passes the dcdc charger and goes straight on to the battery and seems to be working good for the moment. Ill keep an eye on it though, cheers!
@@TylerThompson90 Hi Tyler, it all depends on the quality of your solar blanket as to which is the best way to connect your blanket either to the battery direct or via the DC to DC Charger. Check what type of solar regulator is attached to your solar blanket either a PWM (only OK) or MPPT (way better). Your Kickarse DC to DC charger has a MPPT regulator - meaning, if your blanket is PWM you will be missing out on every drop of that luscious sunlight that a MPPT can convert. The second reason to use your DC to DC charger is your solar blanket will not be a 'smart' charger meaning it will keep pushing power into a full battery risking damage to the battery. Where as, your DC to DC is a 'smart' charger meaning it will control the power going in right down to trickling just the right amount right up to 100%. Kings have just released a 'master class' in off grid power in a 4 part series and it is excellent to get a handle on your system. The first video is basic, but the others I found useful, you might too. It is really easy through a lack of knowledge to ruin a second battery, I have certainly wasted a few bucks on my learn curve. Looking forward to the video in the bush now the Navara is all done!
Plug your solar blanket into your mppt dcdc kickass charger and your battery will stay full. That charger can handle 400watts of solar! Now that's KICKASS.
I was hoping to see how u got around the alternator, I’m sure your rig would have a voltage sensitive thing. Or smart alternator, what Eva they call it. Looks like u didn’t need to do anything ?
G'day Tyler I enjoy your videos , did you consider using a Lithium battery , I know bloody expensive but because you use a fair bit of power it might be worth it and some weight saving also .
@@TylerThompson90 Ha ha. Love the look on the mechanics face when you told him. Good on you Kayla, we expect to see you using it in an upcoming video!! :-) PP
hi tyler, how do you find your voltage on the np300 alternator i did the exact same setup a few weeks back and seem to have alot of voltage drop before im reaching the dcdc (note am using the kickass supplied wiring kit)
Hey mate, it seems to be working okay for me at the moment, we forgot to hook up the wire that goes to the ignition to override the smart alternator but once we got that sorted no issues
G'day mate do you mind if I ask you how much that setup cost? I'm looking to get something similar just curious all Park supply only install a? Thanks dude see you on the tracks
Hey mate, this is the three main parts I used www.australiandirect.com.au/Battery-Systems/AGM-Deep-Cycle-Batteries/KA12120Slim www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-1200w-pure-sine-wave-digital-inverter/KAI1200WPD www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-25a-dc-charger-with-anderson/KADCDC25A-AND And then was another maybe $200-$300 worth of wiring and parts etc
@3:46. Another couple of hundred bucks down the drain...lol. It never ends. I need to do a lot more for my patrol, it'll be a lot more bucks down the drain but in the long run my family and I will enjoy it's benefits. Wish I had a money tree in the backyard.
Hey mate I’m definitely not here to dis your work like every other bloke here because you done a good job mate but I would be concerned where you put your inverter under the seat because of for some reason you end up going though a deeper then expected puddle it might get wet and might damage it so maybe something to think about
8AWG wire is rated for 40 amps & 6AWG is rated for 55 amps. 8 gauge is fine for what you have Tyler, eg the BCDC charger has a maximum of 25amps going into the Charge battery. I like your vids mate well done on having ago & doing it your way
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WARNING THIS ISNT MEANT TO BE AN EDUCATIONAL VIDEO ON HOW TO PROPERLY INSTALL, WIRE AND SET UP A DUAL BATTERY SYSTEM - this is just what I did with Tony and I have no idea what I'm doing. If you are an expert and want to tell us how shit it is and how much better you would have done then just reply to this pinned comment, that way we can keep all the comments in one spot for me to screen shot and have a laugh with my mates.
Here's the Kickass products we used -
www.australiandirect.com.au/Battery-Systems/AGM-Deep-Cycle-Batteries/KA12120Slim
www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-1200w-pure-sine-wave-digital-inverter/KAI1200WPD
www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-25a-dc-charger-with-anderson/KADCDC25A-AND
Lol. Don't let the clowns get you down. If it works, it's done it's job
Mate, that's not how you wire a discombobulator block. You need to flip the scramble to top side and then you push the inconverter lengthwise.
Jesus flaming Christ, people these days..
Don't worry about the haters. I've been a sparky for 19 years the wankers that focus solely on making things look nice, fuck everything else up royally! (Loose connections, improper fuse locations, and the main one is tightly bunched and cable tied wiring which de-rates the cable and it gets hot)
Bloody idiots ey! Nice comment Tyler.
Opinions are like ring holes... everyone has one. It's your rig, do it how you want. If it works, then it's done it's job. Another good vid.
Thanks mate!
Hey bud
I suggest getting your solar setup sorted before you go for a second battery, either a hardmounted panel or a blanket you can plug in and see how that goes first.
Keep up the awesome work!
Hey mate, yep we actually got a 250watt safiery global solar blanket from drifa we took to tassie and worked a treat. I reckon ill upgrade to lithium in the near future still though to give me a bit more power, rather then having two second batteries
@@TylerThompson90 Any battery bigger than 120AH will suffice as long as you have a charger that can keep up with charging it.
Rule of thumb is if your battery setup is under 200AH capacity, stick with a 25A DC Charger, but if it's over, you'll need to step up to a 40A charger.
In that case, I'm going to suggest an Intervolt DCC Pro, as they have different charging profiles, a smaller footprint for mounting and all wiring is terminated with battery lugs, rather than a prewired plug setup, so if anything goes wrong with the unit, it's an easy swap out and replace.
Also compatible with your smart alternator. 👍
The same company that does my solar blanket have a new slimline lithium battery out that will fit behind the back seat so thinking of upgrading to that at some stage. Its only 100AH but will still give me more power then the 120AGM plus charge quicker and lighter
@@TylerThompson90 half the weight and you can run them down to 20% charge left from memory.
Cable gland the rear to put things into tub, opening the rear vent to put cables will let dust through and allow water ingress because vent has rubber that opens and closes as required for cabin pressure to allow doors to close.
Hey mate nice vid. Those large gold fuses and fuse holders in my opinion are not upto the off road job. The caps on the fuses break and make it hard to fault find. Much better off using maxi or terminal fuses. Just my 2 cents worth mate. Keep up the good work.
They are for audio installs not 4wd setups
Hey mate, okay sweet, thanks for the tip! Ill change them around when I get a chance, probably change over to a lithium battery in the near future so will do it then
@@TylerThompson90 yeah to easy mate. Make sure the dcdc you arw using has a litbium chargering function built in or youll be up for changing that to.
Yep I'm pretty sure the kickass one handles lithium as it has a lithium option on the top for battery types :)
Imo ive done more corrigated roads then i have hot dinners and mine have held up 4 years not a single blown fuse. Not sure where you're taking your 4x4 id like to know MS P 🤣.
WOW.... Very interesting to see how to upgrade the Navara . Nice Job mate.
Thanks mate!
I highly recommend Revolution Lithium battery. Expensive but fantastic.
I am thinking of upgrading to a lithium rather then a second AGM battery
I dropped my AGM’s for one Revolution Lithium with 100amps continuous. Save 54kgs and it’s outstanding, would never go back to AGMs
Awesome stuff Tyler mate, it's your bakkie you can do the installation any way you want, but it's an bloody awesome job 👍👍👍 Keep the good stuff coming, you're doing an bloody awesome job with your videos!!!
Thanks mate, appreciate it!
Hi Tyler, just one thing, i'm pretty sure the Navara being brand new would have a smart alternator. if it does the blue overide wire needs to be connected to an ignition source in order for the charger to work correctly as the new alternators vary their voltage up and down for emissions so the charger needs to compensate for this. just my two cents. john
i second this....
Hey mate, so did we miss doing that? If so then I'll definitely get that sorted, cheers!
Yeah I think so mate, I'm pretty sure it's the wire that the mechanic thought was for using the aux battery to start the car in the case of a flat start battery. It's actually a trigger wire for the charger 👍
Okay sweet, thanks mate, will sort that out this week!
Tyler what you need to add to your system is a battery monitor that measures current going in and out. It is good to know the exact status of your battery, voltage is not good enough. I have a cheap one off eBay but maybe you could get your Drifta mates to get you a Victron one. Also when you go solar there are pro's & con's but I like my permanently attached solar system, no mucking around putting up solar panels around the place.
Hey mate, so i've since got one of the safiery global solar blankets off Drifta which I'm using at the moment, probably upgrade to a permanently mounted solar at some stage. And yep try get one of those monitors you mentioned
Good basic usable system Tyler.
Functionality over looks.
Just don't get stuck in water and flood the cab, the inverter may swim the electrify the vehicle.
👍👍
Thanks mate! Yep I'll try not to haha I never have before, Ill hopefully get a tray set up at some stage and set it up in there
Hey mate, The blue wire on the DC-DC charger isnt a "overide" for jump starting. It is an ignition sense wire. This is to be connected to an ignition activated positive to overcome the variable voltage issue with new vehicles fitted with "smart" alternators. You should connect that wire to get the best out of your charge possible .👍👍
Hey mate, yep someone else pointed that it too, got the car booked in for a service tomorrow so will definitely fix it up then. Thanks for the help mate, appreciate it!
@@TylerThompson90 No worries mate! Keep up the good work.
Andy.
Great set up, have done the same in my Nav. I mounted all my fuses and another Anderson plug under the rear seat base. The seat base just lifts up, so for connections or fuse issues you don’t have to unbolt the seat back.
Just an idea 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks mate, I've recently re done my dual battery system and did exactly that 👌
Yep, so the update, great!
Hi Tyler, a great use of space having the battery located in what is normally wasted space behind the rear seat. With the 2nd battery being ‘donated’ to your Dad, get him to look up ‘Low Range Nick’ on TH-cam. He has been building a MU-X like your dads and has an episode installing a dual battery set-up in the rear adjacent to his fridge
Cheers
Okay no worries mate, Ill check it out, cheers!
Great job Tyler. I’m with you on the wiring. As long as it works well doesn’t really matter what it looks like. It behind the seat !!
Cheers mate!
No way. Take pride in your work, make it neat! Mess normally equals issues.
Great video Tyler, what a great idea behind the seat. Really enjoying this build series.
Thanks mate, glad you're enjoying it!
Great video bud, iv got a 79 series LCruiser, i installed a Projecta IDC25 Dc-Dc Solar (same as yours but different brand), its an incredible setup and have been off grid for about 3 weeks with 2 50ltr fridges, didnt have to turn the car on once, im running a 250watt solar panel, thoses fuses you have, I've been using for about a year now, not 1 issue. Good stuff🤙🤙
Thanks mate, sounds like you've got a good set up!
Good onya mate , I managed to fit a 145 behind the seat of my Colorado charged solely by 240w solar panel on my roof , runs small Fridge and camp lights no worries , would like to set up bcdc one day , great use of space -just can’t fit my rifles behind seat now
Sounds like a good set up mate!
Great vid mate. Just reading thru the other comments and there’s some worthwhile suggestions. At the end of the day you set up how you think will work for you and you make adjustments along the way. I’ve set up a basic 12v system for mine and I’m picking up tips on how to improve my own set up as time goes on. It does what I want it to go and that’s all that counts.👍
Thanks mate, appreciate it! Yep you can always add to these things over time, hard to get it perfect for what you want first go
Thanks for the video so happy you showed this I had a bad experience with an installation that went wrong.
I would appreciate if at some point you can do a quick video how to take the rear seat out Cheers
Cheers mate! never good when you have a bad experience, ill try show it when I can
Good spot for it, I also used alot of gear from kickass, not bad fot the $$$, LVDC aswell, good setup, highly recommend a good solar panel/blanket as you have the plug and play capability, has changed my game for me 👌 looking forward to the tassie series.
Cheers mate, appreciate it!
Nice one mate, thats a good use of that space behind the seat. Its always hard to find a good spot for the battery, not sure where you will get the other one in
Cheers mate! Yep that the issue haha
I know it’s hell expensive, but Lithium will sort you out big time. Lighter, can be discharged heavily keeping the voltage higher throughout and it’s safer. Also they hold thousands of cycles, you’re going to go thru three/four AGM by the time you have to swap a lithium.
Yep Im thinking I'm going to upgrade to lithium in the future when I can afford it :)
Nice vid man! Good to see a broken down video of how it goes together! 👌
Thanks mate!
Nice one Tyler. Who cares what anyone else thinks. As long as it works for you that's the main thing. 🇳🇿😎👍
Thank you! :)
Would be great see when your Dad gets his duel battery put into his Isuzu MU - X. Great video. 👍😎
There is a video out on that now mate, his new rear touring set up video 👌
Fantastic setup looks neat enough but you can't keep everyone happy, the second battery is what it needs for sure. Jaycar are doing some neat fold up solar panel at the moment, the 200 or the 260 watt one's would be the go. you could make a anderson to anderson plug Ext lead to get the length needed to get it out to the tub, then just plug the panel straight in. $300 for panel and wiring, perfect for when the car isn't moving :)
Thanks mate! Appreciate it :) Yep I've actually got a solar blanket now I used on our recent trip away, worked well and definitely helped. Got a safiery global one from drifta
Awesome job all mine is in the tub i do have a solar panel so not too worried about hooking up to the main battery but awesome vid might go for the slims as well save some room
Thanks mate!
Not bad mate. IMO you will need both batteries. From memory those Kickass AGM batteries are only designed to discharge about 30-35 amps. Which at 12Vdc only gives you 420 watts. Not even close to what’s required to run that inverter.
Definitely change them fuses to a Midi fuse style.
You desperately need to install a Low Voltage Disconnect to the AGM battery. Kickass do a Cool unit with Anderson plugs pre fitted.
Set up a high amp (200 + amp) 12v relay to turn the inverter on and off. Have the switch setup to trigger the relay from the low voltage disconnect protected side.
Otherwise nice job 👍
So think I'm just going to upgrade to a 100amp lithium battery when I can mate, obviously a lot more money but should work better for me. Thanks for all the tips!
Tyler Thompson that’s the go. I run a 125A lithium with the kickass dcdc charger. Hopefully you can find a slimline lithium to replace the agm. That’s a good use of space for the battery.
All you need is 1 x 100 amp lithium bud. As much power as 2 of those AGMs. Only weighs 11kgs, holds 13v all day, and can charge from 0 to 100% in a couple of hours. They’re brilliant
Yep think I'm going to upgrade to a slimline lithium mate, seem to be much better just so expensive haha
The quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten!
She’s all good mate. At least your building a side business around the space and could see a return on your investment.
@@Daniel-qt1br which brand lithium are you using?
@@tracknotes6562 century from ARB
Nice job. I've recently set up a second battery system in a camper trailer and it is indeed a money pit! I have a couple of observations, you can do what you want with them! I notice you haven't put a tub liner in the back of the ute - I can't recommend them highly enough, stops the tray getting scratched and then rusting. Second thing, yeah that inverter has to come off the floor! You might not plan on flooding the cabin, but you never know! Especially if you go to places like the Cape, etc. Could you maybe mount it to the back of your centre consol, standing up? Some sort of protective cover on it so Kai doesn't kick it?!
Thanks mate, appreciate all the information! I don't think it would fit there to be honest but I can have a look, thats where I normally put my camera bag though for easy reach haha always hard trying to navigate everything. I'm hoping to get a tray set up this year so when I do ill move it into there I reckon
Nice set up, but my only concern deep water crossings with your 240V inverter on the floor, because you could get fried if it is left on
Thanks mate, yeah I had the same concern haha just hard to find anywhere to put it, will hopefully get a tray set up in the future and change it to there. Ive never flooded a 4wd before so hopefully don't anytime soon
I was looking at the kickarse battery box I didn’t know about the slim batteries for the nav I will have a look at that
Yep works really well!
Awesome vid mate been racking my brain all week trying to work out my 12v, I actually just bought the same kickass inverter!! Just had a thought careful with your inverter under your feet in case you flood ya rig in a deep boggy or crossing!! I speak from experience 😂
Thanks mate! Yep I'm hoping to not flood my 4wd haha never have before. Id say ill change it into the tray when I get a better set up in there down the track
That’s it man!! Awesome to see it coming along for ya mate!!
Hey Tyler, roughly how much was the install??
Love your Videos Tyler, As mentioned, I would change those fuse terminals over as i used to use those in my old car (granted they were in the engine bay) but after a few years they started cracking and falling apart. You might not have that issue being its away from the heat of the engine bay, but Worth changing over in my opinion.
I would also look at running a Lithium Battery for what you are doing. I currently have a 120AH lithium battery but may downsize in my new Jeep Wrangler Rubicon to a 60AH lithium battery for space saving and I would say it would still have more safe capacity out of that than the 120AH AGMs.. plus you'll save quite a bit of weight. If you wanted to get super fancy, you could have a custom built lithium battery to fit into a small area, but may not be worth the trouble for most people haha.
Good luck with your adventures and hopefully one day i can go for a drive with you, you seem to find a lot of good spots =D
Thanks mate, appreciate it! :) Yep so I've got my eye on a 100amp slimline lithium battery that will fit behind the back seat so will hopefully upgrade to that sometime soon and will probably change the fuses over then too
Nice set up thanks for sharing, always good to see how its done cheers from Sydney
Cheers mate!
I like everything in this video except him recommending soldering rather then crimping the anderson plug. Crimp is much better... less resistance, longer lasting, and easier.. Great video man!
Thanks mate! I've got no idea so ill take your word for it :) haha
Have you looked into lead crystal deep cycle batteries? They come in slimline and can be 100% discharged and fully recover.
Think I'm going to upgrade to a 100amp lithium battery soon mate, they can use 80-90% of their charge, lighter and charge faster. Just about 5 times the price haha
Nice one man, good to see what goes into the setup
Thanks mate!
Hair straighteners pml mate think solar would be a good thing to get the truck just keeps getting better and better 👍
Thanks mate! Yep Ive actually got a solar blanket with us now they I took away :)
Nice work mate👍looking forward to the tassie stuff.
Thanks mate!
Hi Tyler, great video. What's the place name we're you got this done? Thanks
Good work Tyler people need to realise when others put videos or photos up of their vehicles it’s what they want. Nobody cares about their OCD.
Thanks mate, appreciate it!
Looks like a bloody good job well done to me. Nice kit, should perform really well!
Thank you!
Change your fridge power wires to Anderson plugs not the standard 12volt plugs they will vibrate out on rough roads. Cheers
Yep got the fridge on an anderson plug :)
I like this idea....looked at doing it this week. Located in Vic, but after checking with VicRoads Engineer & a VASS Engineer....doesn't seem it is road legal in Vic to have a sealed AGM in the cab (behind the seats).....therefore insurance is void.
Oh really, I've changed over to a Lithium battery now so not sure if that is any different.
Hey mate I’m in port , would like to show you my setup one day in my dmax if you have some time I done all mine inside the tub ( I do have a canopy though ) but done the whole lot myself , Ctek dc dc charger plus 140 ah Battery works a real treat and didn’t cost me an arm and a leg
Hey mate, Im often down town beach or lighthouse beach so if you see me around then pull up and id be keen to see the set up. Im actually going down to Drifta over the next week or two to change a couple of things with the system
All good mate will do , yeah I gotta get down there myself one day I met Luke down the Hawkesbury river rest area a few weeks back a nice bloke want to check out his drifta bag for our oz tent wifey and I are doing a six week trip over to WA starting mid September 👍🏻👍🏻
Yeah I know they sell a lot of those oz tent bags, one of their most popular products. Sounds like a good trip mate, I'm super keen to get over to WA
Gunna be awesome , we just got back from a flying trip to tassie spent a week down the Hobart end , I see you’ve done a trip down there I’ll be keen to check your episodes on that love that place gotta go back with MAX and do the rest
Yep Tassie videos are coming out next mate, awesome place down there!
Hey mate great video. Can you feel the battery when you are sitting in the back seat?
Cheers mate, na cant feel it
A mistake I made was.....with the solar panel I connected to my ctek and ctek smartpass I didn't realise I needed to cut the wires that went into the solar panel regulator. What was happening was the panel with a cheap PMW regulator was putting out about 15 amps, the solar panel regulator was gobbling up 4 or 5 of those amps and then to Ctek with a MPPT regulator was eating up more of amps so only about 5 or 6 amps were actually making it to the battery to charge.
To solve the problem I simply cut the wires in and out of the solar panel regulator and soldered them together to by-pass the cheap regulator that came with the panel. Hope that is helpful if you didn't know already.
Bet you are pleased with how the beast is coming together.
Hey mate, so I've got a solar blanket I'm using now and with mine it has its own solar controller that by passes the dcdc charger and goes straight on to the battery and seems to be working good for the moment. Ill keep an eye on it though, cheers!
@@TylerThompson90 Hi Tyler, it all depends on the quality of your solar blanket as to which is the best way to connect your blanket either to the battery direct or via the DC to DC Charger. Check what type of solar regulator is attached to your solar blanket either a PWM (only OK) or MPPT (way better). Your Kickarse DC to DC charger has a MPPT regulator - meaning, if your blanket is PWM you will be missing out on every drop of that luscious sunlight that a MPPT can convert. The second reason to use your DC to DC charger is your solar blanket will not be a 'smart' charger meaning it will keep pushing power into a full battery risking damage to the battery. Where as, your DC to DC is a 'smart' charger meaning it will control the power going in right down to trickling just the right amount right up to 100%.
Kings have just released a 'master class' in off grid power in a 4 part series and it is excellent to get a handle on your system. The first video is basic, but the others I found useful, you might too. It is really easy through a lack of knowledge to ruin a second battery, I have certainly wasted a few bucks on my learn curve.
Looking forward to the video in the bush now the Navara is all done!
Plug your solar blanket into your mppt dcdc kickass charger and your battery will stay full. That charger can handle 400watts of solar! Now that's KICKASS.
I was hoping to see how u got around the alternator, I’m sure your rig would have a voltage sensitive thing. Or smart alternator, what Eva they call it. Looks like u didn’t need to do anything ?
That's all typically handled in the charger, the Redarc and KickAss ones both accommodate for the smart alternators it seems
Great video yet again, any chance you can get your viewers a discount on the 120AH batteries from kickass? Eagerly waiting for the tassie trip videos!
Thanks mate! They haven't given me any discount codes but i can ask the question and see what they say :)
How did u go with the discount code?
Hey mate how did you strap the battery down or secure it?
Good work Anthony
Your alive. Been waiting for this one man. Top vid. Great info
Yep been on the road for a month haha thanks mate!
Can’t wait for more of your off-road adventures.
Wow thats a serious solid trip mate. Really look forward to the vid series.
G'day Tyler I enjoy your videos , did you consider using a Lithium battery , I know bloody expensive but because you use a fair bit of power it might be worth it and some weight saving also .
Hey mate, yep think I'm going to upgrade to a lithium battery in the near future :)
Lol on the hair straightener, my miss brought a rechargeable 1. Just need a 2.1amh USB output. Heaps cheaper than big inverter
Kayla only accepts her finest quality GHD hair straightener haha
@@TylerThompson90 Ha ha. Love the look on the mechanics face when you told him. Good on you Kayla, we expect to see you using it in an upcoming video!! :-) PP
Tyler tell Kayla there is a 1200watt hair dryer available
been loving this build series! are you going to get black steel rims if so when? would look awesome on that Rig :)
Thanks mate! I may do at some stage but no set plans yet, see how i go :)
Nice job, I enjoyed the video , cheers👍🏻
Thanks mate!
Good job
Great video mate
Thanks mate!
how do u connect the inverter part
Cool information. Use on my navara one day:)
Thanks!
interesting you Nav doesn't have the Sig Sock in the tray?
Yeah it does but thats connected to the main battery? I needed outlets in the tub connected to the second battery
Hope you don’t get water coming in to your can with the Inverter at your foot
Nutserts would've been the go for mounting the DC to DC charger
Yeah thats true!
hi tyler, how do you find your voltage on the np300 alternator i did the exact same setup a few weeks back and seem to have alot of voltage drop before im reaching the dcdc (note am using the kickass supplied wiring kit)
Hey mate, it seems to be working okay for me at the moment, we forgot to hook up the wire that goes to the ignition to override the smart alternator but once we got that sorted no issues
G'day mate do you mind if I ask you how much that setup cost? I'm looking to get something similar just curious all Park supply only install a? Thanks dude see you on the tracks
Hey mate, this is the three main parts I used
www.australiandirect.com.au/Battery-Systems/AGM-Deep-Cycle-Batteries/KA12120Slim
www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-1200w-pure-sine-wave-digital-inverter/KAI1200WPD
www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-25a-dc-charger-with-anderson/KADCDC25A-AND
And then was another maybe $200-$300 worth of wiring and parts etc
Nice vid mate...🤙
Thanks mate!
Awesome job mate, looks great
Cheers mate!
You need a canopy Tyler.
Hopefully try and sort that out at some stage this year :)
Canopy and tray...
Had a canopy on my Nav. Just put a tray and canopy. Wont look back.. so much room...
@3:46. Another couple of hundred bucks down the drain...lol. It never ends. I need to do a lot more for my patrol, it'll be a lot more bucks down the drain but in the long run my family and I will enjoy it's benefits. Wish I had a money tree in the backyard.
Yep definitely is worth it mate, some of the best times 4wding and camping :)
Looks good to me champ 👍
Thanks mate!
Can’t you fit the second battery under the rear seat
Nope hardly any room there at all
Ok hard to tell on camera but them batteries seemed quite small thought you might fit one in there
Hey mate I’m definitely not here to dis your work like every other bloke here because you done a good job mate but I would be concerned where you put your inverter under the seat because of for some reason you end up going though a deeper then expected puddle it might get wet and might damage it so maybe something to think about
Hey mate, thank you! Yeah hopefully try and move it somewhere better in the future once I get a tray set up.
What did it end up costing you?
The dual battery system was about $1500 worth including labour and the extra wiring etc
Isn’t 8mm cable 100amps not 50amps I thought
Im not 100% sure mate. I know the mechanic said his 6mm cable was 50amps in the video but not sure what he said about 8mm
8AWG wire is rated for 40 amps & 6AWG is rated for 55 amps.
8 gauge is fine for what you have Tyler, eg the BCDC charger has a maximum of 25amps going into the Charge battery.
I like your vids mate well done on having ago & doing it your way
doing it all wrong blah blah haha jokes mate dont listen to negativity, love your vids, canopy an option or like the ute back ?
Haha cheers mate! Possibly looking at doing a tray set up down the track Id say
240v house power