I was a serving leading firefighter with essex fire and rescue service for 36 years and wish to heap praise on all firefighters especially those in the big cities fighting against all the traffic 👍
@@Class380Fan nice i got sexualy assaulted by him do you think that's right? The fact that he got away with it. Nah not on my fucking watch. So next time think before you act.
Dennis Metz Turntable Ladder (camera), Dennis Pump Escape (rear roller shutter), and Saxon Pump Ladder (open rear pump bay), all 3 turning out of LFB A24 Soho. Great machines, built by great English companies.
I once met the Chief Fire Officer of London Fire Brigade, Mr Brian Robinson. He told me that the crews of LFB A24 Soho spent all their time climbing in and out of actresses’ dressing room windows…
I wish people would stop suggesting Britain gets "Q" sirens. They work great in America, but that's because they suit the environment, driving styles, and the vehicles they're on. We've used (and still do) 2 tone air-horns sirens because they fit in with our environments, vehicles and driving style. Doesn't New York have an embargo on the use of Q sirens because they're just too loud for the general population? The idea of a siren is to get people out the way, not wake up the city.
@BlackieFoxxless and you know who else uses the Q on vehicle's that aren't ment for it? The Philippines! They have these Japanese style trucks, but they go "all out" (excessive decorating, wrapping, lighting and Sirens) on their trucks.
@@shaneharrisnj3484 Yeah Q sirens along with the stock Japanese mech siren. But one thing I don’t understand is how after it was suggested in NYC that Hilo sirens be used more often, they are still allowing mech sirens again. Seems a little counterintuitive to me. Plus the Two tone/ Hilo sirens are proven to be more effective than electric wailers And mech sirens.
The stress of getting through small London streets, the relief of getting onto a open 4 lane one. I mean, that bit with the engine driving through that 1 lane road then having to stop by the bus as people run out into the street, that must've been stressful.
I love the Dennis pump and the Dennis TL! I also love those uk PA sirens! But it would of been better if they turned on there 2 tone air horns trough the traffic jams!
Looks like the White Watch. Driving in central London was great fun on roads designed for horses and carriages. 'Wing mirrors don't count' was the motto. You could judge those lovely slab-sided appliances to fag paper gaps. A24 had one square mile back then. 5 minutes to get there, 40 minutes getting back
Dan Shillabeer that's a blast from the past mate. We briefly served at the same time in the early 90's. It was my beloved Blue Watch that were the stars though not the punchy white watch haha. I only clicked on this when I was explaining to my youngest how Gary used to ride the front making his films before H&S was a thing.Hope your well mate, still see Tom and Mark whenever there's a do. take care Andy Shaw (nosher 🙄)
@04smallmj Yeah, my Wife is American and having witnessed first hand the noise that is the mechanical Q siren, I can say the public complaints here in Britain would be drowned out by it. xD
@jdrepiv - In those days the turn-out was always PL, P, TL, other (Pump Ladder, Pump, Turntable Ladder, Special) with the Stn Officer riding the Pump. The turn-out bulbs on the ceiling reflect that sequence also - Red, Green, Yellow, Blue.
Me and my good lady have been in London this weekend seeing the sights, and celebrating her birthday. And I have just driven that exact route today in my car, and so I couldn’t wait to tell my missus about this particular video, (I first watched it years ago!), and I specifically focused on the point where the silly twat nearly got flattened by the sneaky TL! Just showed it her...... and guess what... she wasn’t impressed! But I’m so glad I watched it again. It was a lot quieter today though!!!
@BlackieFoxxless You’ve asked this before, you are trolling, These are professional drivers, anything like that would be a serious disciplinary matter, fwiw majority of the car drivers moved over and created a space as much as they could.
1992 & not using two-tones on fire engines? Maybe it was just my area that still used two-tones on the engines right up into the 2000s. I came to this video hoping to be able to hear that nostalgic noise again.
You guys are lucky they pull over. In Los Angeles, California down in Watts everyone drives like they got their license at a Pub while they were drunk. They don't pull over they race us or pull over to the wrong side of the road. I wish you could see it, but the fire department won't let us film while we are working. It is pretty funny though
I always thought the LFB started using Volvo's like the one at 1.03 around late 1996 and early 1997 after Dennis appliances were taken off run and put in reserve.
Classic case of not adjusting the siren tone to how many vehicles are driving in convoy, I believe it's the front passenger of the ALP who says to the driver change the tone after a taxi and pedestrian cross the it's path, but fair play it was really new technology :-)
Steven kiel it's not a ALP it's a TL I used to drive these. At the start of video the print out states A24 PL. A24 P. A24 TL which is Turn Table Ladder
It would help if one of the appliances used Two Tone Air Horns, I have found these excellent at moving traffic. There must be loads of these spare, please put them on the appliance :)
train672 I totally agree with you the older Dennis pump the one that left the station first has two tones! These PA sirens aren’t that loud as two tones!
Ah yes, Pall mall and st. james street was both one way back then and shaftesbury avenue at the trocadero didn't have the bus lane option then so they was forced to turn left and wait for the traffic to move.
I love te message at the end, this should be printed in big bold letters on every dring licence, with a warning fall to heed message could cost you 3 points and £500 fine.
What happens if LFB ram or hit cars with their fire engines? Does the Met police have the authority to arrest firefighters or does the UK law forbid that?
Also what qualifes for life in prison without parole if a fireman was forced to ram cars out of the way to rush to the scene quickly, in order to save innocent people's lives while the sirens didn't work?
@Someloke8895 Yeah, mechanical Qs are illegal in NYC, probably because of how loud they are. They must be almost deafening in stationary traffic and for pedestrians, especially when they are used at their highest pitch for a long time... Martin horns are pretty good though and those are mechanical.
Lol nice video. Do the people there know how to move out the way when they hear sirens. The ones that was walkin across the street.... and the two cars that pulled directly in front of the fire truck and cut him off..... really?
I am constantly appalled by the uncaring behaviour of London drivers especially the London cabbies. Compare their driving and the way in which USA drivers give way to fire appliances. It should be mandatory in this country for all drivers to pull into the nearside and stop when any emergency vehicle either approaches or intends to overtake..
Is it uncommon in the UK that all trucks of one station are en route together? in the country where I live the customary battalion condsists of three trucks and when a fire gets called in it's nearly always the entire battalion that gets dispatched. Of course not if there is only a car or a pile of waste on fire.
Don’t understand the question, what is a battalion? remember these scenes are over 30 years ago, 1992, there have been big cut backs with further fire station closures and appliances withdrawn since, the other fire station that attended and arrived first no longer exists.
Obviously 1992 but London hasn’t changed. Traffic is still just as bad if not worse. People could be burning to death in such instances, this is why I feel London needs some of its roads to be dedicated emergency and fire routes. If it means car drivers, taxis’s and buses etc can’t use them so be it, people’s lives are worth more.
night mare driving in these conditions but thats london-and then u get people asking---------why is it taking fire brigade so long to respond to call? this is why
@Leonardo85ITA Im not so sure about that, its much better than listening to the hi-low, yelp and wail on a run, but to each his own, we run the Q over here in the states mostly works fantasticly here
It would be faster if fire crews went by foot and mailed equipment to the required address. Sad but true, not it all cases people in cars are evil blockers of emergency services, I was a witness to few times (by chance, right) that some woman driver just got scared by all the noise and dramatic situation of such vehicles passing by. In driving schools they teach you that you should allow them to pass by. In real life - you have to be really skilled to make some room for you and them.
For them not old but now there about 20 or 30 years old but we decommissioned them out of services and we started useing scanias and Volvo because there newer
And it's not our fault that idiots drivers don't make way for emergency services and you can't say much your fire appliances are from the 1980s 70s 90s
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I was a serving leading firefighter with essex fire and rescue service for 36 years and wish to heap praise on all firefighters especially those in the big cities fighting against all the traffic 👍
My dad was a firefighter for 27 years. Full respect to all firefighters everywhere. Thank you for your service. 🚒❤️
thank you kens dad. real heroes.
My mum got beating up by a firefighter who at the time was her boyfriend.
@@rileynewman8949 clown
@@Class380Fan nice i got sexualy assaulted by him do you think that's right? The fact that he got away with it. Nah not on my fucking watch. So next time think before you act.
D and 🎩
Dennis Metz Turntable Ladder (camera), Dennis Pump Escape (rear roller shutter), and Saxon Pump Ladder (open rear pump bay), all 3 turning out of LFB A24 Soho. Great machines, built by great English companies.
The ladder was a Dennis/Camiva.
@@shaneharrisnj3484 Thanks Shane!
@@grahamclifton1483 no problem.
I am member from a volunteer für Brigade in Germany and also member of the B.F.S.A. my füll respect for all gute Fighter in the world
I once met the Chief Fire Officer of London Fire Brigade, Mr Brian Robinson. He told me that the crews of LFB A24 Soho spent all their time climbing in and out of actresses’ dressing room windows…
nice video, shows the skill and patience of the drivers.
i wonder how far they will get before they get stuck in traffic, (5 seconds after they leave the station) wow thats a record XD
I wish people would stop suggesting Britain gets "Q" sirens.
They work great in America, but that's because they suit the environment, driving styles, and the vehicles they're on.
We've used (and still do) 2 tone air-horns sirens because they fit in with our environments, vehicles and driving style.
Doesn't New York have an embargo on the use of Q sirens because they're just too loud for the general population?
The idea of a siren is to get people out the way, not wake up the city.
Lol very true!!
Plus English two tones sound better
@BlackieFoxxless and you know who else uses the Q on vehicle's that aren't ment for it? The Philippines! They have these Japanese style trucks, but they go "all out" (excessive decorating, wrapping, lighting and Sirens) on their trucks.
@@shaneharrisnj3484 Yeah Q sirens along with the stock Japanese mech siren. But one thing I don’t understand is how after it was suggested in NYC that Hilo sirens be used more often, they are still allowing mech sirens again. Seems a little counterintuitive to me. Plus the Two tone/ Hilo sirens are proven to be more effective than electric wailers And mech sirens.
Well said.
LFBs responds time are pretty impressive despite traffic.
those appliances are surprisingly agile for their size
The stress of getting through small London streets, the relief of getting onto a open 4 lane one.
I mean, that bit with the engine driving through that 1 lane road then having to stop by the bus as people run out into the street, that must've been stressful.
I love the Dennis pump and the Dennis TL! I also love those uk PA sirens! But it would of been better if they turned on there 2 tone air horns trough the traffic jams!
Sadly these trucks in this video has no air horns installed and the "PA" sirens, are just Woodway Commander type sirens.
Looks like the White Watch. Driving in central London was great fun on roads designed for horses and carriages. 'Wing mirrors don't count' was the motto. You could judge those lovely slab-sided appliances to fag paper gaps. A24 had one square mile back then. 5 minutes to get there, 40 minutes getting back
Dan Shillabeer that's a blast from the past mate. We briefly served at the same time in the early 90's. It was my beloved Blue Watch that were the stars though not the punchy white watch haha. I only clicked on this when I was explaining to my youngest how Gary used to ride the front making his films before H&S was a thing.Hope your well mate, still see Tom and Mark whenever there's a do. take care Andy Shaw (nosher 🙄)
@@MrHotspur67 hi mate! Always had a soft spot for the blues, so many characters! Different world, eh? Might see you at a jolly one day 🔥👍
@04smallmj Yeah, my Wife is American and having witnessed first hand the noise that is the mechanical Q siren, I can say the public complaints here in Britain would be drowned out by it. xD
@jdrepiv - In those days the turn-out was always PL, P, TL, other (Pump Ladder, Pump, Turntable Ladder, Special) with the Stn Officer riding the Pump.
The turn-out bulbs on the ceiling reflect that sequence also - Red, Green, Yellow, Blue.
When was this
@@olivergravestock6876 This was the very early 1990's
Me and my good lady have been in London this weekend seeing the sights, and celebrating her birthday. And I have just driven that exact route today in my car, and so I couldn’t wait to tell my missus about this particular video, (I first watched it years ago!), and I specifically focused on the point where the silly twat nearly got flattened by the sneaky TL!
Just showed it her...... and guess what... she wasn’t impressed! But I’m so glad I watched it again. It was a lot quieter today though!!!
Loving the old Dennis Pump!
Did my EFAD training in a Dennis RS. Lovely motors
@@thehighwaycowboy2822 .... London only had SSs. Pretty much the same machine though. Fantastic Perkins V8 sound.
I love those bells
very brave men-god we need you right now!
Fantastic One!👍
@BlackieFoxxless You’ve asked this before, you are trolling, These are professional drivers, anything like that would be a serious disciplinary matter, fwiw majority of the car drivers moved over and created a space as much as they could.
This is why urban departments, especially in Europe have longer response times
Far better sirens in those days than the naff ones these days.
1992 & not using two-tones on fire engines? Maybe it was just my area that still used two-tones on the engines right up into the 2000s. I came to this video hoping to be able to hear that nostalgic noise again.
I think they are still used today but only as a back up if the sirens yelps and whailes are not responding
You guys are lucky they pull over. In Los Angeles, California down in Watts everyone drives like they got their license at a Pub while they were drunk. They don't pull over they race us or pull over to the wrong side of the road. I wish you could see it, but the fire department won't let us film while we are working. It is pretty funny though
Damn it's worse than New York trying to get through traffic in London during an emergency.
I always thought the LFB started using Volvo's like the one at 1.03 around late 1996 and early 1997 after Dennis appliances were taken off run and put in reserve.
1st volvo fl6 on H reg so around 1990 still had a couple of dennis ss on the run in 1999 the dennis TL's Did 25 years of service
Classic case of not adjusting the siren tone to how many vehicles are driving in convoy, I believe it's the front passenger of the ALP who says to the driver change the tone after a taxi and pedestrian cross the it's path, but fair play it was really new technology :-)
Steven kiel it's not a ALP it's a TL I used to drive these. At the start of video the print out states A24 PL. A24 P. A24 TL which is Turn Table Ladder
Not a foreign plate in site ! Thoughs were the days !
There's a Volvo in that fleet at the time. Back when they were reliable as a truck brand.
The Volvo appliance seen running as the Pump in this video now belongs to a friend of mine and we plan to restore her to operational condition.
missing the old two tones.
I thought the London Fire Brigade disorder the Volvo FL6 Saxons until 1995 and 1998 to replace the Dennis SSs and the Dodge 100 Series Pumps
It would help if one of the appliances used Two Tone Air Horns, I have found these excellent at moving traffic.
There must be loads of these spare, please put them on the appliance :)
train672 I totally agree with you the older Dennis pump the one that left the station first has two tones! These PA sirens aren’t that loud as two tones!
really good too see this vid again it really shows the great skill those drivers have. thanx for reposting it.
Maneuvering/driving in that traffic is a nightmare !!
the joys of driving for the lfb
I wonder with the congestion charge nowadays if three engine following the same route would get there any quicker ??
no it would take the same time, but you also need to realise car ownership has gone up lol
Proper old skool 90s or 80s filmage! and good ole denis too
the 1st pump is a dennis and the 2nd is a 1st gen volvo fl6 with saxon bodywork
Ah yes, Pall mall and st. james street was both one way back then and shaftesbury avenue at the trocadero didn't have the bus lane option then so they was forced to turn left and wait for the traffic to move.
@AwsomeFan2010 an AFA is an Automatic Fire Alarm
Loving this. Respect
Great that this vid is back :)
Please buy some two tone air horns even if you have to have whip round to get them. They really help !!
in glasgow fire and rescue take different routes in case one gets stuck
Standard procedure in the LFB, but Sohos grounds littered with 1 way routes
Can somebody please tell me where can I find the old shout allarm bell from 0:07 tone? I´d love to have it as an alarm clock.
I love te message at the end, this should be printed in big bold letters on every dring licence, with a warning fall to heed message could cost you 3 points and £500 fine.
well doen to those drivers, its bad enough driving a car in london let alone a machine that size. ROA for them all (round of applause)
That traffic pattern is a nightmare
What happens if LFB ram or hit cars with their fire engines?
Does the Met police have the authority to arrest firefighters or does the UK law forbid that?
Also what qualifes for life in prison without parole if a fireman was forced to ram cars out of the way to rush to the scene quickly, in order to save innocent people's lives while the sirens didn't work?
The met police don't have authority to arrest firemen for ramming cars, that is against the uk law for the police to do
@philatthepub what year did the LFB first have the volvo saxons?
wow so much congestion even in front of the station can barely can move.
@Someloke8895 Yeah, mechanical Qs are illegal in NYC, probably because of how loud they are. They must be almost deafening in stationary traffic and for pedestrians, especially when they are used at their highest pitch for a long time... Martin horns are pretty good though and those are mechanical.
Many thanks for posting.
very nice video, but missing the two tones
Lol nice video. Do the people there know how to move out the way when they hear sirens. The ones that was walkin across the street.... and the two cars that pulled directly in front of the fire truck and cut him off..... really?
Silly question what's a AFA for the uninitiated?? Is it All Fire Appliances??
Automatic Fire Alarm
@@SECAmbCFR thank you
yes the 90s before they changed the chime to a better one
I am constantly appalled by the uncaring behaviour of London drivers especially the London cabbies. Compare their driving and the way in which USA drivers give way to fire appliances. It should be mandatory in this country for all drivers to pull into the nearside and stop when any emergency vehicle either approaches or intends to overtake..
A thoroughly miserable place to have to drive. Even with blue lights. Absolute hell.
@SECAmbCFR thank u 4 that i always wondered why you looked up when you run down stairs but now i know :)
Is it uncommon in the UK that all trucks of one station are en route together? in the country where I live the customary battalion condsists of three trucks and when a fire gets called in it's nearly always the entire battalion that gets dispatched. Of course not if there is only a car or a pile of waste on fire.
Don’t understand the question, what is a battalion? remember these scenes are over 30 years ago, 1992, there have been big cut backs with further fire station closures and appliances withdrawn since, the other fire station that attended and arrived first no longer exists.
YES!
THIS VIDEO IS BACK!
all the rollers and bentleys just parked wherever !!
too bad the firemen didn't whip open the doors when that bike rider whipped by.
What is the pedestrian at 1:23 thinking? "Oh look, another fire truck? Well, I'll just nip across the road now." Dolt.
a surreal experience, it seems people have no awareness.
wow ur right that is a lot of tradffic. great video faved!
Obviously 1992 but London hasn’t changed. Traffic is still just as bad if not worse.
People could be burning to death in such instances, this is why I feel London needs some of its roads to be dedicated emergency and fire routes.
If it means car drivers, taxis’s and buses etc can’t use them so be it, people’s lives are worth more.
@Someloke8895 Aah, OK. Yeah, there would be a lot of complaints about that haha
just watched this and 2nd pup away is a volvo fl6 isnt it
How many LF's & Subs between the 3 PL-P-Ariel appliances ?
Usually a second leading hand or Sub on the HP, e.g. in Londons burning when they had the ALP the passenger wore Crew manager markings
It doesn't look like they were getting out of the way of the first one either.
And here I thought New York City was bad. Wow
Beautiful Trucks.I bet the drivers of these trucks wish they had a snow plow on front of trucks to move the cars out of way.
Wow, I bet FDNY jakes feel better about their traffic problems watching watching this!
haha and people just walk out infront of a moving fire engine, unbelievable.
@joelwhitaker That traffic does suck. That must be a pain to get to a fire
0:42
And all because the lady loves milk tray!!!
They should have reloated Soho Fire Station. The Roads are far to busy now. Ive seem the Fire Engines held up in Traffic a few times over the years.
night mare driving in these conditions but thats london-and then u get people asking---------why is it taking fire brigade so long to respond to call? this is why
2 Lanes actually, but only one was free.
Nice
boy that traffic!!
@Leonardo85ITA Im not so sure about that, its much better than listening to the hi-low, yelp and wail on a run, but to each his own, we run the Q over here in the states mostly works fantasticly here
Maybe Boris the Buffoon dhould watch this and realise why London stations should have been so close
they were were a year or 2 old at the time of the video
London’s Burning, anyone?
oh yeah
Proper old skool lfb
It would be faster if fire crews went by foot and mailed equipment to the required address. Sad but true, not it all cases people in cars are evil blockers of emergency services, I was a witness to few times (by chance, right) that some woman driver just got scared by all the noise and dramatic situation of such vehicles passing by. In driving schools they teach you that you should allow them to pass by. In real life - you have to be really skilled to make some room for you and them.
What a shame,look how long it took to get thru.how old are these rigs?
For them not old but now there about 20 or 30 years old but we decommissioned them out of services and we started useing scanias and Volvo because there newer
And it's not our fault that idiots drivers don't make way for emergency services and you can't say much your fire appliances are from the 1980s 70s 90s
3 pumps to an afa, God now a days we only send one
PL, P and TL
Its because Inner Londons a high risk area
In Middlesbrough they phone you up 1st
What is the matter with some of those drivers, and more to the point pedestrians- can't they see and hear there are emergency vehicles in a hurry????
Please Air horn tone
Excessive use of sirens, still prefer the old two tones.
Good
Yikes! The cyclist at 3:25 wants a good talking-to.
How many hours per mile do they do 😂
These pumps and do about 120mph but because of traffic they have to go slow
@@Zackislivid they won't do 120 mph mate, I drive one regularly and only if we get a clear run will we get 80 mph.
@@firejam78 huh because where I live Scottish fire and rescue do about 120mph I did a speed test
@@Zackislivid I guarantee you they will not do 120 mph I think you mean KPH which is 74mph
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Just like in America, nobody yields the fire trucks.
soon be able beam all the traffic up scotty UK