True, everyone almost tests these CPUs only with RTX 3080 or 6800XT like top tier GPUs. Well this indeed shows how different these CPUs are but those who buy 3080/6800 doesn't go with these mid range CPUs.
I bought the 10400F for a LOT less on sale and the performance difference is minor. The money saved got me a 4 slot motherboard upgrade (over a basic 2 slot board) plus 2 x 8gb Used DDR4 ram sticks to fill it.
@@brokeandtired Ya, where I live the 11400 isn't much more than the 10400, but if the price difference is substantial than it's a much better deal to get the older model.
I'm here with an i3-5005U and a 920M with 8 gigs ddr3, struggling on 480p very low , not because I don't know what to buy, I just can't find anything to buy
I recommended the i5 11400F with an ASUS B560 TUF PLUS to a friend. I know, the motherboard is overkill, but I wanted to give him the option to upgrade to an i7 on the future, even an i9. I think it is a worthy option
@@mistermo4424 Hmm if you don't consider to upgrade, I would recommend a cheaper board like B560M Bazooka or B560M Mortar. However, I think you shouldn't spend much less on a motherboard because 11th gen consumes more watts than 10th gen, so the VRM will heat more. In summary, it is recommended a nice VRM. The mentioned Bazooka and Mortar is a fair choice, or B560M Aorus Elite or Pro. Asrock B560/M Steel Legend I think has some problems with the BIOS, but it also could be a good suggestion
@@mistermo4424 You mean ASUS B560 Prime Plus or ASUS B560M TUF Plus? I know, the names are confusing 🤣, but Prime Plus has a inferior VRM. An i5 11400F could be run, but VRM temperatures under load can raise near 100ºC, so I suggest other model. What online store are you using? I could search there and see motherboard prices, it varies a lot depending of the country
I went with a used i5 10400 for $135, mated to an Asus Prime B560-Plus motherboard for $119. This allows me to drop in an 11-series chip later down the road, if I choose. At the price I paid, I saved a pretty good chunk of change compared to Ryzen 3xxxx or Ryzen 5xxxx chips, and it was still a significant upgrade over my previous i5 2400.
Heck yeah it is good enough. Using an i5-8600 with a GTX1070 myself in my gaming rig. Can play 4k at times too (like GTA 5). All that is only with 6 cores. This bad boy should be fiiinnneeee! 😋 Heck might even be overkill in some instances.
I know, it's a bit ridiculous to suggest pairing it up with just an older mid range card, you would have no problems pairing it up with a modern high end card at all
All comes down to the games. For anything released within the last 2-3 years it is plenty, even with a current card. For some older titles that don't scale well over 12 threads it might be more limiting.
Just overclocked my hyperx 2666 to 3200 on aorus pro b560m board . Turned off the xmp , changed the multiplyer to 3200 and increased the ram voltage to 1.4v . I was suprised how easy it was compared to memory overclocking on ryzen where you gotta use typhoon burner and ryzen dram calculator and input the timings manually . Love these b560 boards
Nice one CCL for loaning the CPU. Good to see that the difference in CPU doesnt make your car handling in GTA5 any better.....that was quite a smash lol.
@@uglybob7505 Clearly testing the ability for upturned cars to right themselves, I don't think it was introduced until GTA V, at least not for cars fully on their roof, GTA III, they would just go on fire and explode, GTA IV, you could try to right one if it wasn't fully upside down.
ABSOLUTELY. Wonderful chip for gaming on a budget. Built multiple computers with it. Plus it leaves a MASSIVE upgrade path. Allowing u to go to a i7 or even i9 down the road.
IMO the 11400f at 175 is definitely worth it compared to the 10400f at around 145-150 because the 11th gen has productivity performance comparable to that of the r5 3600. In many cases it actually outperforms zen 2 for productivity. Even if you only plan on gaming I think the extra $25 is worth it in case you do decide to do stuff aside from gaming and the CPU will also hold more value in the future. Considering the r5 3600 can hardly be found for 200 ATM, the 11400f at 175 is a no brainer for a new mid range system IMO.
In general it is, which is why I think it's a great value. I think I might build my first system with one, if graphics card prices ever come down to reasonable levels
Big up CCL, i've made 18 orders from them.. can usually find all the parts for a build at the best price on there. 10400F is a VERY good price on there atm too.
Interesting how a ryzen 5 3600 was the go-to for so long and now the Intel chips have sprung back this generation. I've had some instabilities with the ryzen since switching from a 6600k which is not ideal but I dont see myself upgrading for a while.
I would probably just wait for the Alder Lake chips and the new socket at this point, if I wanted to go with Intel. The 11 series looks like a short-lived stop-gap.
I'd love to see a comparison between 4C/4T i5's vs 6C/6T models vs 6C/12T models. Heck, you can even compare them all with the same core architecture since everything from 6th gen to 10th was Skylake based.
I went from a 4c 6700k at 4.5ghz to an 8 core 10700k at 5ghz... doubled my fps in some games... the 6700k was bottleneck city... cold war went from 55-65fps to 120 lol... same with DayZ and tarkov.... also my friend went from a 6700 non k to a 9600k and it doubled his fps as well... it was bottlenecking his gpu.... 4 cores don't cut it anymore as soon as you play a cpu intensive game 4 cores just struggle....even with a gpu thats not overkill for the cpu... the 6700k crippled my 1080ti lol even though there wasn't meant to be a bottleneck... same with my friends pc he was getting stupidly low fps with his old cpu... and low gpu usage got a 6 core and his gpu usage is perfect now along with his fps... he went from 50-60fps on tarkov to 90-120.... same gpu and higher settings....
Love that they finally unlocked ram overclocking on midrange boards. Hopefully they continue doing so too. Just built my brother a 10100F and 1660 system and was able to get another 400 points on cb r23 just by changing the ram from 2666 to 3200mhz, the b560 board was only $20 more than the $100 b460 boards, and it even had wifi 6 and 2.5g on it. Would love to see how far the budget 10100 can go in terms of ram speeds
Since this new gen of intel processors dropped I am seriously considering an i5-11400F build with a B560 motherboard to replace my Ryzen 5 2600 system. That processor is not far behind a Ryzen 5600X and I can get it + a decent motherboard for the price of the 5600X.
Check out the H570 motherboards as well, they also support memory overclocking. Asrock H570 phantom 4 for example looks like a really nice board for its price.
Is that upgrade even worth it? I would definitly wait for the new gen with DDR5 RAM, either they're a massive jump in performance to make upgrading worth it or the old CPUs get much cheaper. A 2600 is still fairly decent and should easily hold up until then ^^'
Likely won't notice any gains over your 2600, I would stick with what you have (and I upgrade a lot just for fun, I went through a dozen GPUs in 4 years). But you can do as you wish, I would just consider that a downgrade since I use multi-core a lot (love my Threadripper), and gains in gaming will be minimal at best even though I'm the kind of person that insists on running 300 fps in games even when they are rendered on a 60 Hz 4k monitor because I can tell the difference in input lag from 240 fps to 300 fps, but even I wouldn't be too worried about it, I would just overclock more (example, even my 2200g was delided and direct die phase cooled at -50c, because why not? Haha! I love to have fun and crank fps to the max!)
If you are on a b450/x470 you can just upgrade to whatever ryzen is cheapest in price that provides an upgrade....anything in the 3000 series or even a 2700X. Unless your current 2600 can't handle your gpu you won't really see any upgrade.
I was originally looking at the 10400f to upgrade from my old i5 4570, but now that this is out and checking out the benchmarks from this video and others I'll most likely be getting this. I thought about getting Ryzen, but I don't do livestreams. so the i5 11400 is fine for what I need.
As a 10th gen i5 user my cpu really needs a 3rd party cooler. For now I’m fine with my setup with a 1650 super aero itx and 16GB ram and I’ll buy one later.
That's weird. I have a i5 10400 & temps remain pretty normal with stock cooler & goes upto 65C in gaming. Ambient temp where I live is 30-40C. Maybe you are using a K series i5 for which the stock cooler definitely might not cut it?
if amd give us a 4 core 8 thread cpu with the same single core performance as the 5600x for around £100 then its over for intel. if the i3 11th gen is also great then ill be very happy.
@@winonesoon9771 I think Intel is going to be the value champ this gen, if you want the absolute maximum performance then yes you should go amd but Intel offers similar performance for cheaper this gen on the mid range cpus.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe It looks like there will be no 11th gen i3 CPUs, instead, Intel released a few 10th gen models (10105, 10305) with slightly higher clocks.
I really love where the price:performance came in for this one. My cousin decided to build a gaming pc at MC recently and I told him to go with this. Buuuut he also decided he wanted a full size ATX motherboard with wifi, meaning a $200 Z590 board due to limited selection. It's a pretty wonky combo, but I'm hoping resizable bar or direct storage let's him make use of the gen 4 lanes he paid so much extra for. ps, MC has 30 series card set aside for only if you're building a full system
This cpu is a budget monster, Has XE graphics, and can perform close to ryzen 5600x. Better value than i9 11900k and i7 imo. Especially 11600k is better overall
@@xPandamon True, vega still stands superior to intel's desktop igpu but actually uhd 730, and 750 are using xe graphics architecture but cut down alot lol while laptops get like 96eus... They renamed it to uhd just for the desktop lineup
@@GameFrostYT Yeah, you're right, they are technically XEs. But they're so cut down, i wouldn't even call them XE anyways ^^ It's weird, they're the same architecture but get beaten by 2-3 year old Ryzen iGPUs..
@@martinsinnombre it's not just this generation... From a while now people keep saying how i7 is a mid range cpu and the same for ryzen, that ryzen 5 is a cheap cpu for budget builds and this is not true. The same goes for gpus, some people say the rtx 3070 is a mid tier graphics card, whitch makes me laugh... I mean really, most people even this days have a 1060/rx580 or a 1050ti. This is the reality not the nice and pink world they want us to belive where they make a xx60 card at the price of the ex xx70 and try to sell it to us like nothing changed
It is probably worth it, but its disappointing that they aren't going to sell a Rocket Lake i3. even with a locked multi it would surpass a 3300x. And now AMD has no reason to hurry up the 5300x either. I have a sneaking suspicion that neither of them wants to make a fresh 4c/8t because with these ipc gains they are going to be perfectly relevant for a long time, and the sweet spot for price/performance gaming for the forseeable future. By Meteor Lake and Zen 4, in only a year or so, a 4/8 will equal the new consoles in multithreaded performance, and absolutely obliterate them in single threaded. The "you're gonna need those cores next year" crowd will be wrong again.
I have 10400f, man for its price, this cpu is epic . It has performance almost like 5600x, in some games 5% less in some same fps. I can live with that, in my country 5600x is double price 😄 i wish i could get decent gpu bcs my old is about to die, i hope so not now :(
@@YOU-ot9ep there is no such thing as "optimised for intel" or for AMD. Certain games run better on intel because of better latency and/or higher frequency.
Not bad, and it's good to see that Intel iGPUs are somewhat usable now :) previously iGPUs were only useful if you wanted an output to a monitor, and if all that you wanted was a monitor output, you could probably do that with a bloody GT210...
Hey man, as always great video! It’s incredible how my GTX 970 is still holding up to the newer titles, could you make a video about this great and legendary gpu?
It sounds like backporting Ice Lake into Rocket Lake was not a good idea for higher-end processors. Rocket Lake would make a good budget/mid-range build considering that *that* would have been the limit of these processors. But anything above the i5 is similar to taking an i5 and overclocking it to the ceiling. Eats too much power for less performance.
I got 3600 for 175$ and a 5700xt for 330$.. this whole price insanity is so hard to keep track of. I never thought i’d be able to actually make money off of a PC part a year later.
That's tough but remember.....people don't even have that. Something that can help you with the FPS is clean the system and replace your thermal paste. If it doesn't improve performance, reply to me here.
It is always better to get the regular CPU with the UHD inside. In case the main GPU fails, you have a backup. All major youtubers recommend the F series which is ridiculous and plain stupid imho.
Seems like the UHD 730 greatly benefits from the faster memory. There isn't a massive difference in architecture, it got the same amount of shader cores and just a marginally bump in clock speed.
i think they're pretty disappointing actually, considering how powerful cellphone igpus are. this is barely any faster than a phone's gpu. which is pretty terrible considering the difference in power draw. this IGPU is still slower than the HD6950 i had way back in 2011. granted that was a high end gpu with a 250w power draw, but it was 10 years ago.
When comparing the iGPUs, aren't you mostly comparing the memory speed? Would like to see the comparison in a B560 board where both chips get 3200MHz DDR4.
The only thing that really irked me in going back to Intel is the very short motherboard support. WTF? I'd rather have the more expensive 3600 in which I can upgrade to 5600x or 5950x in the future.
Most games are graphics bound, processor not matter you if have something kind a modern. I dont no what your custom settings in Valhalla but I getting 69 fps on benchmark with Ryzen 1600 and RTX 2060 Super on 1080p, Very High settings + Environment on Ultra. New chips worth it only if buying new PC right now not for upgrade if have some midrange graphics like this
any thoughts of i5 10400 vs the i5 2400? and is worth the upgrade? i cant find much videos reviewing it. all i found was gaming comparison's no actual review
Nice video :> Could get the i5 10400f in my country for like 170$ right now..would there be any significant difference compared to R5 3600, when I would be using 2666 Mhz RAM for any of these chips right now? Mind you the Ryzen costs 250$+ ..(can afford just the CPU+motherboard). GPU is AMD 5600XT OC. Would really appreciate any suggestion or help..
i m currently building a system myself and i almost got to buying the 11400f but i then decided against it and got a ryzen 3600 instead and i got a 4 months old one used for 116 instead of 187. Because i have 2 mayor issues with the 11400f first is its power consumption...its just horrible... but the main point is the platform itself. I m not just buying a cpu chip. i m buying into the platform and i just like am4 way more as an overall platform, especially 5 years down the road. Intel socket 1200 is pretty much allready dead. There is no upgrade path to it AT ALL. everything more expensive than the 11400 and intel wont make sense again since amd are simply better up there, alot of cores? nope.. not with intel either. what about 12th gen then? nope.. new socket again.. so you buy into a platform and it starts and ends with that one cpu. On am4 on the other hand, even tho i might lose out on a couple fps here and there now... in 5 years, i can go ahead and buy a used ryzen 5900x for cheap from someone whos switching to am5 for example and pretty much double up on cores going from 6 to 12 and i dont need to change anyhting for that, same mainboard, same ram. there are so many good cpus above that ryzen 3600 to upgrade to in the future wich i simply cannot do on intel side and this is a HUGE advantage, that i will not give up for maybe a couple fps less (especially since i cann oven put that 3600 to full load right now with my gpu)
you know normal bench marks with perfectly even playing fields have their place, but in my opinion these kind of benchmarks where you are showing both chips with a motherboard and ram that reflects the budget one might be on if they are considering these cpu's have much more value than those clinical bench marks because they just arent a real representation of the performance your average customer in this area of the market should be expecting.
Love the budget oriented theme of this video!
...well everybody are broke right now ...
welcome to the channel! here we appreciate and emphasize the "having fun" rather than the "with tech"
What do you " budget oriented theme" this is Big Budget in RGinHD Land 😁
True, everyone almost tests these CPUs only with RTX 3080 or 6800XT like top tier GPUs. Well this indeed shows how different these CPUs are but those who buy 3080/6800 doesn't go with these mid range CPUs.
Not only is the 11400(F) a great value, but it's the first hardware product released in almost a year that you can actually buy.
I bought the 10400F for a LOT less on sale and the performance difference is minor. The money saved got me a 4 slot motherboard upgrade (over a basic 2 slot board) plus 2 x 8gb Used DDR4 ram sticks to fill it.
@@brokeandtired Ya, where I live the 11400 isn't much more than the 10400, but if the price difference is substantial than it's a much better deal to get the older model.
You know I nornally prefer AMD over Intel but that CPU looks like a great choice especially for mid to high end gaming.
@@brokeandtired For how much did you get it for? Its 145$-170$ where i am and wondering if that's the usual price everywhere else
@@kolikoasdpvp 11400F selling now for £163.87 ($227.05) in Britain.
10400F for £116.67 ($161.65) when I bought mine. Taxes inflate the costs of goods.
1:43 happy that Dave has found a friend! :)
That’s his third “friend”. I thought they were supposed to mate for life 😂
@@RandomGaminginHD He's a cheater?!?!?!?!!!?
@@RandomGaminginHD bruh 😂
@@RandomGaminginHD Dave the Betrayer?! D:
Woah.
1:42 I always love when Dave makes an appearance in your videos!
I bought a 10400f at an awesome price just before the 11400 came out. Just over £100. Happy days. Running a 970 and more than happy at 1080 60 medium.
I'm here with an i3-5005U and a 920M with 8 gigs ddr3, struggling on 480p very low , not because I don't know what to buy, I just can't find anything to buy
I have a 10400f that i bought in February for a little over £100 and paired it with a 1070. Haven't found anything which it cant handle!
@@mk2nathan did you buy everything used? Because I might take that aproach as well, I can't find anything in stock
@@tiagoviana263 No, only the GPU, but that is what i took the biggest hit on, I spent £320 for a normal 1070.
@@tiagoviana263 which Mobo are you guys using with 10400f
Meanwhile, hp has released their 2021 version of the hp pavilion. It now has an 11400.
5 years later...
Oh that’s cool perhaps I’ll try and find one. Better not have 1 stick of ddr4...
@@RandomGaminginHD It has 2! Although, they are ... 8GB+4GB... ?!??
@@vladimirmarinov6730 OEM logic
@@vladimirmarinov6730 At least it's in dual channel!
I recommended the i5 11400F with an ASUS B560 TUF PLUS to a friend. I know, the motherboard is overkill, but I wanted to give him the option to upgrade to an i7 on the future, even an i9. I think it is a worthy option
Hey I'm going for the same but I don't see myself upgrading to i7 or i9 in the near future so is it still a fair choice?
@@mistermo4424 Hmm if you don't consider to upgrade, I would recommend a cheaper board like B560M Bazooka or B560M Mortar. However, I think you shouldn't spend much less on a motherboard because 11th gen consumes more watts than 10th gen, so the VRM will heat more. In summary, it is recommended a nice VRM. The mentioned Bazooka and Mortar is a fair choice, or B560M Aorus Elite or Pro. Asrock B560/M Steel Legend I think has some problems with the BIOS, but it also could be a good suggestion
@@Fran-op8tc I'm thinking of buying the Asus b560m plus??
@@mistermo4424 You mean ASUS B560 Prime Plus or ASUS B560M TUF Plus? I know, the names are confusing 🤣, but Prime Plus has a inferior VRM. An i5 11400F could be run, but VRM temperatures under load can raise near 100ºC, so I suggest other model.
What online store are you using? I could search there and see motherboard prices, it varies a lot depending of the country
@@Fran-op8tc lol its asus tuf gaming b560m plus
The biggest reveal in the video is that Dave made a new friend.
Why must your profile pic remind me of this?
@@EVPointMaster where's his profile pic from?
@@arandombird648 you really don't wanna know
d a v e
@@EVPointMaster I want to that's why I ask, please tell me.
Smashing vid! Have used CCL for my PC parts and have not been disappointed!
im using the 10400F on my new 3060ti Mini ITX build. Very pleased myself at least c:
Hey can you tell me the full build. Planning something similar
I went with a used i5 10400 for $135, mated to an Asus Prime B560-Plus motherboard for $119. This allows me to drop in an 11-series chip later down the road, if I choose. At the price I paid, I saved a pretty good chunk of change compared to Ryzen 3xxxx or Ryzen 5xxxx chips, and it was still a significant upgrade over my previous i5 2400.
Just bought the chip, nice upload timing :)
Thanks for covering stuff we can actually buy!
also +1 for CCL. i get a lot of my stuff from there.
built my sisters "long time" 3200G build through them
Used ccl for years, great service. 5 stars
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@@awNuqii no it's not lmao
Heck yeah it is good enough. Using an i5-8600 with a GTX1070 myself in my gaming rig. Can play 4k at times too (like GTA 5).
All that is only with 6 cores.
This bad boy should be fiiinnneeee! 😋
Heck might even be overkill in some instances.
4K no aa?
@@user-jc2in3cp3g ha! not with a 1070 🤣
I know, it's a bit ridiculous to suggest pairing it up with just an older mid range card, you would have no problems pairing it up with a modern high end card at all
All comes down to the games. For anything released within the last 2-3 years it is plenty, even with a current card. For some older titles that don't scale well over 12 threads it might be more limiting.
@@UncleMikeRetro i can with a 1060 lol
The only one video on YT showing budget CPU with GTX 1080 performance level GPU, thx a lot!
Just overclocked my hyperx 2666 to 3200 on aorus pro b560m board .
Turned off the xmp , changed the multiplyer to 3200 and increased the ram voltage to 1.4v .
I was suprised how easy it was compared to memory overclocking on ryzen where you gotta use typhoon burner and ryzen dram calculator and input the timings manually .
Love these b560 boards
Nice one CCL for loaning the CPU.
Good to see that the difference in CPU doesnt make your car handling in GTA5 any better.....that was quite a smash lol.
You don't play GTA to actually drive nicely 😂
Yeah it’s amazing how much I haven’t improved over the years haha
@@RandomGaminginHD You and me both lol. Been playing it for more than 10 years now and I still crash in spectacular fashion :-)
@@uglybob7505 Clearly testing the ability for upturned cars to right themselves, I don't think it was introduced until GTA V, at least not for cars fully on their roof, GTA III, they would just go on fire and explode, GTA IV, you could try to right one if it wasn't fully upside down.
I love this channel!
you always do a great job and amazing in-depth videos!
Was just wondering this, thank you for making this budget video!
ABSOLUTELY. Wonderful chip for gaming on a budget. Built multiple computers with it. Plus it leaves a MASSIVE upgrade path. Allowing u to go to a i7 or even i9 down the road.
IMO the 11400f at 175 is definitely worth it compared to the 10400f at around 145-150 because the 11th gen has productivity performance comparable to that of the r5 3600. In many cases it actually outperforms zen 2 for productivity. Even if you only plan on gaming I think the extra $25 is worth it in case you do decide to do stuff aside from gaming and the CPU will also hold more value in the future. Considering the r5 3600 can hardly be found for 200 ATM, the 11400f at 175 is a no brainer for a new mid range system IMO.
11400F is more powerful than R5 3600 (according to hardware unboxed)
In general it is, which is why I think it's a great value. I think I might build my first system with one, if graphics card prices ever come down to reasonable levels
looking forward for the iGPU / APU comparison benchmark ;)
Big up CCL, i've made 18 orders from them.. can usually find all the parts for a build at the best price on there. 10400F is a VERY good price on there atm too.
🙂 $180 at Microcenter, the K version is a bit more but the K version has a different Integrated Graphics
@@DoomGuy9001-MK4 thanks for the info
I'm just on this very dilema. Thanks as always!! :D
Interesting how a ryzen 5 3600 was the go-to for so long and now the Intel chips have sprung back this generation. I've had some instabilities with the ryzen since switching from a 6600k which is not ideal but I dont see myself upgrading for a while.
A solid realistic review not the hype nonsense seen almost everywhere else.
One of the best channels for me
I would probably just wait for the Alder Lake chips and the new socket at this point, if I wanted to go with Intel. The 11 series looks like a short-lived stop-gap.
i still doubt they can get the 10nm fabs running in time so i predict there will be stock issues and higher prices on alder lake.
@@DerToasti Well, it's already been on Geekbench, if you believe the info.
Really liked that video. No one will use a 11400 in a Z590 board. Great content.
I'd love to see a comparison between 4C/4T i5's vs 6C/6T models vs 6C/12T models. Heck, you can even compare them all with the same core architecture since everything from 6th gen to 10th was Skylake based.
I'd like to see the difference between a modern i5 and the i5-4460; the latter has featured many a time on this channel and is the CPU in my tower PC.
I went from a 4c 6700k at 4.5ghz to an 8 core 10700k at 5ghz... doubled my fps in some games... the 6700k was bottleneck city... cold war went from 55-65fps to 120 lol... same with DayZ and tarkov.... also my friend went from a 6700 non k to a 9600k and it doubled his fps as well... it was bottlenecking his gpu.... 4 cores don't cut it anymore as soon as you play a cpu intensive game 4 cores just struggle....even with a gpu thats not overkill for the cpu... the 6700k crippled my 1080ti lol even though there wasn't meant to be a bottleneck... same with my friends pc he was getting stupidly low fps with his old cpu... and low gpu usage got a 6 core and his gpu usage is perfect now along with his fps... he went from 50-60fps on tarkov to 90-120.... same gpu and higher settings....
Love that they finally unlocked ram overclocking on midrange boards. Hopefully they continue doing so too. Just built my brother a 10100F and 1660 system and was able to get another 400 points on cb r23 just by changing the ram from 2666 to 3200mhz, the b560 board was only $20 more than the $100 b460 boards, and it even had wifi 6 and 2.5g on it. Would love to see how far the budget 10100 can go in terms of ram speeds
I love the transition on your script "Except (*sigh) GTA V.
Intel is the budget brand now. What a world.
Where I live there's only $33 (about 24 pounds) difference between the two. It looks like the 11400 is actually worth it over 10th gen.
Love The Video.Good Job ✔️
Dave is back and he brought a friend.
Really helpful thanks^^
The laugh when he said "use it to watch graphics card stock videos" I wanted to scream
You... and all pc gamers with you😆
Since this new gen of intel processors dropped I am seriously considering an i5-11400F build with a B560 motherboard to replace my Ryzen 5 2600 system. That processor is not far behind a Ryzen 5600X and I can get it + a decent motherboard for the price of the 5600X.
Yeah go for it, this is a great cpu :)
Check out the H570 motherboards as well, they also support memory overclocking. Asrock H570 phantom 4 for example looks like a really nice board for its price.
Is that upgrade even worth it? I would definitly wait for the new gen with DDR5 RAM, either they're a massive jump in performance to make upgrading worth it or the old CPUs get much cheaper. A 2600 is still fairly decent and should easily hold up until then ^^'
Likely won't notice any gains over your 2600, I would stick with what you have (and I upgrade a lot just for fun, I went through a dozen GPUs in 4 years). But you can do as you wish, I would just consider that a downgrade since I use multi-core a lot (love my Threadripper), and gains in gaming will be minimal at best even though I'm the kind of person that insists on running 300 fps in games even when they are rendered on a 60 Hz 4k monitor because I can tell the difference in input lag from 240 fps to 300 fps, but even I wouldn't be too worried about it, I would just overclock more (example, even my 2200g was delided and direct die phase cooled at -50c, because why not? Haha! I love to have fun and crank fps to the max!)
If you are on a b450/x470 you can just upgrade to whatever ryzen is cheapest in price that provides an upgrade....anything in the 3000 series or even a 2700X. Unless your current 2600 can't handle your gpu you won't really see any upgrade.
Great video concept and review. Honestly, you are a unique TH-camr. Makes me almost want to leave California for England....almost.
Also, Florida.. it's boring here.
I was originally looking at the 10400f to upgrade from my old i5 4570, but now that this is out and checking out the benchmarks from this video and others I'll most likely be getting this. I thought about getting Ryzen, but I don't do livestreams. so the i5 11400 is fine for what I need.
I5 4570 perform well in AAA titel games ? And which graphic card you using with it ? Please tell
Love your vids
Keep it up
As a 10th gen i5 user my cpu really needs a 3rd party cooler. For now I’m fine with my setup with a 1650 super aero itx and 16GB ram and I’ll buy one later.
Yeah after alder lake 10nm launches
That's weird. I have a i5 10400 & temps remain pretty normal with stock cooler & goes upto 65C in gaming. Ambient temp where I live is 30-40C. Maybe you are using a K series i5 for which the stock cooler definitely might not cut it?
I’m using a 10400 with a. 3060ti and love it, no bottlenecks for me at 1440p
the 11400 took the place of the ryzen 3600 from a year ago lol who knew intel would become the budget brand lol
Yeah I can’t wait to see what amd do next at this price point
if amd give us a 4 core 8 thread cpu with the same single core performance as the 5600x for around £100 then its over for intel. if the i3 11th gen is also great then ill be very happy.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe true but unfortunately AMD has shown there greed already so idk but yeah for real this is true they really should
@@winonesoon9771 I think Intel is going to be the value champ this gen, if you want the absolute maximum performance then yes you should go amd but Intel offers similar performance for cheaper this gen on the mid range cpus.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe It looks like there will be no 11th gen i3 CPUs, instead, Intel released a few 10th gen models (10105, 10305) with slightly higher clocks.
I really love where the price:performance came in for this one. My cousin decided to build a gaming pc at MC recently and I told him to go with this. Buuuut he also decided he wanted a full size ATX motherboard with wifi, meaning a $200 Z590 board due to limited selection. It's a pretty wonky combo, but I'm hoping resizable bar or direct storage let's him make use of the gen 4 lanes he paid so much extra for.
ps, MC has 30 series card set aside for only if you're building a full system
This cpu is a budget monster, Has XE graphics, and can perform close to ryzen 5600x. Better value than i9 11900k and i7 imo. Especially 11600k is better overall
Yeah it’s a really exiting addition to the lineup. I’m looking forward to testing the igpu further as well to see what else it can do
@@RandomGaminginHD Finally! Thanks, cant wait to see you test the uhd 730 and probably uhd 750!!!
It doesn't really have XE graphics, they're castrated compared to their mobile counterparts. Not even close to Vega iGPUs.
@@xPandamon True, vega still stands superior to intel's desktop igpu but actually uhd 730, and 750 are using xe graphics architecture but cut down alot lol while laptops get like 96eus... They renamed it to uhd just for the desktop lineup
@@GameFrostYT Yeah, you're right, they are technically XEs. But they're so cut down, i wouldn't even call them XE anyways ^^
It's weird, they're the same architecture but get beaten by 2-3 year old Ryzen iGPUs..
Yes CCl are good.
If a brand new i5 isn't worthy of a budget PC build what would be? LOL
Love the videos RandomGamingHD!
Since when it's an i5 a low end cpu or suit for low end builds? That thing is very capable for anything
agree. compared to my i7 4770 its an absolute monster
I'd guess it's because there's no 11th gen i3... (?)
@@martinsinnombre it's not just this generation... From a while now people keep saying how i7 is a mid range cpu and the same for ryzen, that ryzen 5 is a cheap cpu for budget builds and this is not true. The same goes for gpus, some people say the rtx 3070 is a mid tier graphics card, whitch makes me laugh... I mean really, most people even this days have a 1060/rx580 or a 1050ti. This is the reality not the nice and pink world they want us to belive where they make a xx60 card at the price of the ex xx70 and try to sell it to us like nothing changed
i5 11500 is the best option for the time being with no gpus available in market.. it has better igpu than 11400
Wait fr?
Ryzen APUs: Am I a joke to you?
@@itsTyrion Intel XE: You are now.
@@itsTyrion nah those APUs are trash in CPU matters so the best option if you are waiting for a GPU is now Intel lol
@@itsTyrion last gen APUs are worse than xe ATM, next gen will come soon, but like all AMD products, it's out of stock instantly
It is probably worth it, but its disappointing that they aren't going to sell a Rocket Lake i3. even with a locked multi it would surpass a 3300x. And now AMD has no reason to hurry up the 5300x either. I have a sneaking suspicion that neither of them wants to make a fresh 4c/8t because with these ipc gains they are going to be perfectly relevant for a long time, and the sweet spot for price/performance gaming for the forseeable future. By Meteor Lake and Zen 4, in only a year or so, a 4/8 will equal the new consoles in multithreaded performance, and absolutely obliterate them in single threaded. The "you're gonna need those cores next year" crowd will be wrong again.
I have 10400f, man for its price, this cpu is epic . It has performance almost like 5600x, in some games 5% less in some same fps. I can live with that, in my country 5600x is double price 😄 i wish i could get decent gpu bcs my old is about to die, i hope so not now :(
@@thebeast6494 rx 570 sadly, but il upgrade soon
@@YOU-ot9ep there is no such thing as "optimised for intel" or for AMD. Certain games run better on intel because of better latency and/or higher frequency.
Intel UHD 750 gaming test please...
i still wonder whats the difference between UHD 730, UHD 750 and Vega 3
Not bad, and it's good to see that Intel iGPUs are somewhat usable now :) previously iGPUs were only useful if you wanted an output to a monitor, and if all that you wanted was a monitor output, you could probably do that with a bloody GT210...
Thanks man gonna get one right now
Is the 2060 budget, when it's realistically £400 + ?
He bought it before prices were hiked
@@Amorousstake4 fair enough. It was never less than 350. I just thought 'budget' meant say, 200 or so. Maybe I'm cheap.
Hey man, as always great video! It’s incredible how my GTX 970 is still holding up to the newer titles, could you make a video about this great and legendary gpu?
Wasn't it's legendary status caused by the 3.5/4 GB ram thing
It sounds like backporting Ice Lake into Rocket Lake was not a good idea for higher-end processors. Rocket Lake would make a good budget/mid-range build considering that *that* would have been the limit of these processors. But anything above the i5 is similar to taking an i5 and overclocking it to the ceiling. Eats too much power for less performance.
Oeh, i like the black Cooler, seems nice for a opencase or non case build😁 If you can stand the noise these thinks make indeed...
They have had that since the 10700 though but its popularity died
@@Graphics_Card yeah tbh i have been using amd ryzen for years now. So this is the first time in a looooong time that i am excited about a intel cpu🤣
I love how intel fans switched to budget market; before was elitist "i pay (much) more for the better product".
Well I don’t mind competition in budget range
@@buzzlightyearoh Intel dropped prices thanks to competition.
I got 3600 for 175$ and a 5700xt for 330$.. this whole price insanity is so hard to keep track of. I never thought i’d be able to actually make money off of a PC part a year later.
Low End? meanwhile i'm sitting here with an AMD a8 6600k and a GTX 960 4GB. 50 FPS avg on GTA V (all settings on Low)
That's tough but remember.....people don't even have that. Something that can help you with the FPS is clean the system and replace your thermal paste. If it doesn't improve performance, reply to me here.
Low End? I used to play on an I5 4200u on nothing but integrated graphics. 15FPS avg on The forest / subnautica low settings 480p
turn your settings up, when bring bottlenecked by your cpu you want your gpu to take more of the load, lower settings = cpu working harder
@Sperm Cell bruh that's not bad
Low end ? I used to play on a core 2 duo gt 240 15 fps on Minecraft low settings 240p.
How does that integrated graphics compare to GT 1030, 750 Ti and AMD APU-s? Would be cool to make a comparison video.
Bro- the company CCL is the company my mom used to work for! But... they do drug labeling 😂
I still aim for the 10400F. And so im glad that there is a new Model on the market soon. So, i will get my now "Old" CPU a bit cheaper.
The UHD 730 is better than I expect. But even the improvement of UHD 750 over UHD 630 is too little to be exciting.
While we are in a budget components fix if you can find one for a decent price please do an rx 5300 review/benchmark? You read that right RX 5300.
If you are doing iGPU tests, can you consider adding in the 11500? It would certainly be interesting if anyone is interested in using it
I would even like to see the 11400 but with 2666 RAM like the 10400, so we can see how much impact the memory really has.
6 cores, 12 threads, good IPC performance, if these are a good price it's a no brainer
It is always better to get the regular CPU with the UHD inside. In case the main GPU fails, you have a backup. All major youtubers recommend the F series which is ridiculous and plain stupid imho.
Seems like the UHD 730 greatly benefits from the faster memory. There isn't a massive difference in architecture, it got the same amount of shader cores and just a marginally bump in clock speed.
It's unbelieveable how powerful integrated graphics actually are on these modern cpu's
i think they're pretty disappointing actually, considering how powerful cellphone igpus are. this is barely any faster than a phone's gpu. which is pretty terrible considering the difference in power draw.
this IGPU is still slower than the HD6950 i had way back in 2011. granted that was a high end gpu with a 250w power draw, but it was 10 years ago.
When comparing the iGPUs, aren't you mostly comparing the memory speed? Would like to see the comparison in a B560 board where both chips get 3200MHz DDR4.
25 seconds ago-noice!!
I have survived long enough with my mobile intel hd 4000, this cpu igpu should make me survive longer
Please do a comparison between 10400f and 11400 with power limits turned off at same Ram Speeds.
The only thing that really irked me in going back to Intel is the very short motherboard support. WTF? I'd rather have the more expensive 3600 in which I can upgrade to 5600x or 5950x in the future.
Your the reason I have pc! Thank you.
i saw someone mod a stock cooler with a 92mm bequiet fan by snipping off the old fan and glueing on the new fan.
Why, why would you do that
Cpu coolers / heat sinks aren’t expensive
Will i5 11400 be a good combo with rtx 2070 super and cooler master hyper 212 for cpu cooler ?
Most games are graphics bound, processor not matter you if have something kind a modern. I dont no what your custom settings in Valhalla but I getting 69 fps on benchmark with Ryzen 1600 and RTX 2060 Super on 1080p, Very High settings + Environment on Ultra. New chips worth it only if buying new PC right now not for upgrade if have some midrange graphics like this
any thoughts of i5 10400 vs the i5 2400? and is worth the upgrade? i cant find much videos reviewing it. all i found was gaming comparison's no actual review
yes i5 2400 is 2nd gen i5 10400 is tenth gen
Nice video :> Could get the i5 10400f in my country for like 170$ right now..would there be any significant difference compared to R5 3600, when I would be using 2666 Mhz RAM for any of these chips right now? Mind you the Ryzen costs 250$+ ..(can afford just the CPU+motherboard). GPU is AMD 5600XT OC. Would really appreciate any suggestion or help..
While 11 series cpu performance doesn't offer an upgrade from 10 series, it does offer pcie 4.0.
Heres a video i'd like to see, UHD 730 graphics vs GT730 graphics! Which is the better one?
Depends which GT 730? DDR3 or GDDR5? Fermi or Kepler v2? If its the fastest Kepler v2 GDDR5 GT 730 it'll probably be faster by quite a bit.
@@OTechnology go with DDR3 to give the UHD 730 a fighting chance :p
I have a budget built i5 10400f micro gaming PC with Rx5600xt 16gb ram and I play all games at 3440x1440 high settings @60 fps
How is the 5600XT a budget GPU? :D
Nice, I run a 3700x @4.4ghz and a 5600xt (i'm looking for a 3080 though), I play at 1440p 165hz. Can manage above 60 in most titles.
@@itsTyrion I'd say it's mid range. And I think he was referring to the buiild as a whole.
@@yohaneeva2289 yeah the i5 10400 turbos in game 4.1ghz all cores 6/12 no manual overclock on this setup cool and quiet in a micro atx case
Yeah when you stop using ultra settings (which are used in all benchmarks) you realize how much you can get from cheaper cards
why you didn't use yours 3070 to test cpu? 2060 isn't any closer to reality, it is 800 usd in my country (I bought mine for 350 long time ago though)
Just buy Intel Xeon E5-2640 V3 $40-50 and you are set
Still great CPUs!
@@RandomGaminginHD X to doubt.
yeah and power consumption is not on your list? you will be paying for electricity more cz of how much it chugs
The problem is motherboards.They're either expensive or chinesium.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 chinesium 😂
I love this word, imma use it in the future 😂
Do a vid on the i7 10700f, the non K variant imo is really cool how little power it consumes and how much it offers!
I am planning on pairing that cpu with a b560 mobo so I can 3200mhz ram
@@hazzmati cool that u dont need a z490, intels mobos have always been more expensive
i m currently building a system myself and i almost got to buying the 11400f but i then decided against it and got a ryzen 3600 instead and i got a 4 months old one used for 116 instead of 187. Because i have 2 mayor issues with the 11400f first is its power consumption...its just horrible... but the main point is the platform itself. I m not just buying a cpu chip. i m buying into the platform and i just like am4 way more as an overall platform, especially 5 years down the road. Intel socket 1200 is pretty much allready dead. There is no upgrade path to it AT ALL. everything more expensive than the 11400 and intel wont make sense again since amd are simply better up there, alot of cores? nope.. not with intel either. what about 12th gen then? nope.. new socket again.. so you buy into a platform and it starts and ends with that one cpu. On am4 on the other hand, even tho i might lose out on a couple fps here and there now... in 5 years, i can go ahead and buy a used ryzen 5900x for cheap from someone whos switching to am5 for example and pretty much double up on cores going from 6 to 12 and i dont need to change anyhting for that, same mainboard, same ram. there are so many good cpus above that ryzen 3600 to upgrade to in the future wich i simply cannot do on intel side and this is a HUGE advantage, that i will not give up for maybe a couple fps less (especially since i cann oven put that 3600 to full load right now with my gpu)
I’m waiting also for a Ryzen 5000 review
Wouldn't call it a budget processor as it doesn't support any budget motherboards. Going for a 10400 now.
Intel's integrated graphics seem quite a bit better with the 11th gen series! Thanks!
you know normal bench marks with perfectly even playing fields have their place, but in my opinion these kind of benchmarks where you are showing both chips with a motherboard and ram that reflects the budget one might be on if they are considering these cpu's have much more value than those clinical bench marks because they just arent a real representation of the performance your average customer in this area of the market should be expecting.
Appreciate you including gta 5 benchmarks, that game is great