Jim Cornette Reviews AEW WrestleDream 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2023
- From Episode 502 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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One thing I think Vince is right about is the guys looking like athletes and keeping themselves in shape. A guy like Balor is smaller, but he looks like he’s chiseled out of stone. Gunther dropped the weight and he looks like a stern killer.
Considering actual MMA fighters more often than not look carved out of stone sans the heavyweight division yes I rather my fake fighters look strong and fit.
Antonio Inoki never dreamt this
He did. He told Twinkle Toes this was his dream and Twinkle told Tony.😂😂😂😂
@@andisugeInoki didn’t but Tony Khan did 😂
Definitely not!
I did once but it was totally different and WWE
@@DonSmith2323 atta boy Don
When edge realised there was nobody on the other side during his entrance 😂😂😂
He thought he knew there were fans on both sides of the building. Not in AEW!
@@DavidOwen-yv8wz Hahaha welcome to AEW Adam Copeland
There were fans on both sides. There are literally videos. Stop being funny and instead be factual.
@@Mets4787There were no fans on the hard cam side 😂😂 look when Adam runs to the right and just stops when he sees nobody 😂😂
@@Mets4787Keep telling yourself that
I really enjoy segments like this, where Brian is challenging and interrogating Jim's point of view. They're both knowledgeable enough to make the debate truly interesting.
That what Uncle Dave and his lapdog should have done, having a healthy discussion with both side can disagree with each other POV or their thoughts NOT Uncle Dave yapping on and on especially the negative stuff about WWE bad and his lapdog only nod and agreeding with whatever Uncle Dave said
Brian is a clown who, with his knowledge of wrestling, should know better but instead acquieses for modern wrestling. He constantly makes excuses for a lack of story/psychology (especially if the wrestlers involved he finds attractive). Obviously not to the extent as Meltzer but just enough
@@marvinleong5902It started that way, until the subject became Joey Ryan and Dave refused to budge on the penis spots being bullshit. Jim talked about what a transformation it was, that Melzter would rightly bring up Ultimate Warrior's shortcomings but couldn't do the same for "The King Of Dong Style".
Personally, for me, there's too much Brian on this show in general.
@@dougdaniels1242 yep and no one really pays for/listens to these shows for his take or opinion on things. He should practice more self-awareness in that regard.
Triple H commented a while back about events being long. Recently, he even mentioned that their television shows needed to still have content. Having events too long will destroy the moods of the fans reactions, especially for the main event, where it's needed the most. Tony still needs a booker to help him with things like this. So far as Adam Copeland goes, I hope they protect him and his well being, and I hope Copeland tells them he's not doing anything that's crazy. AEW needed him the most, than the WWE. His image and reputation won't be hurt. This is a chance for him to make more money and help guys, who need it.
Christian’s angry Muppet face is a personal favorite.
I’m convinced the Christian / Darby match was 2 / 3 falls because they didn’t want Darby to win but couldn’t resist doing the turtleneck over the head finish.
Was fucking great.
Darby is an idiot, but he's emo so pain is his pleasure.
@@willdemore4418yea imagine if he didn't fling himself around like an inflatable tube man in used car lots. He's gonna be either crippled or hurting barely able to walk at the end of his career
Img yess christian has the best faces
Vince is said to have hated Christian’s face, but it’s great for a heel.@@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy
@@TD1021- I can't wait to see him using a walker by his late 30s, can't stand that regard.
I can picture Tony having that exact reaction.😂😂😂😂😂
pause
I bet you can imagine Tony looking at himself
@@fatalsniper3413 ok 🚬
The more jim looks the faster tony gose haha
I like that Jim is straining over a lot of these matches and then Brian's like "meh, I thought it was good."
At least Brian isn’t as bad as Conrad with being an AEW mark…but I feel like he will slowly get there unfortunately.
Not really,i think Last is probably where the mainstream of pro wrestling is right now
Not really what?@@northleedspoppa
Grown ups don't say 'meh'. We're articulate. We're not social media fuck ups, champ.
@@ennbee2051you are using an anonymous burner account. You aren't "grown up" or articulate.
Adam doing a run in, gets music and pyro..for a run in!
Don't forget, it's another lights out debut. They've just become an ECW tribute act.
And yes, Edge just happened to be standing around in the back and Tony was like "oh shit, edge, go out there, your friend is getting attacked, I already have custom pyro and entrance stuff ready for you, and take your time going to save him
Jeff Hardy should have joined him on the ramp to do his little dance
It was a debut, not really a run in. He was coming out to see uncle Jay.
video, music and pyro... don't forget the video
Japanese Marks style 😂😂😂
Good lord
They really are a thing lol people that are obsessed with Japanese style wrestling. Constant spots, barely/no selling, endless flips and dives, crowds patiently waiting just to pop at spots and not actually caring about any story being told during the match, just more spots 😂
I heard Inoki’s Ghost is haunting Tony now for knocking his picture over during the speech he gave 😂
This will get me through my PM shift.
It was a five hour show and still couldn't include Samoa Joe, Wardlow and Danhausen... wtf?!
Agree with joe the other two I'm glad weren't on
Jim forgot the best part of Adam's entrance, on the entrance ramp, goes the left to acknowledge the fans, heads right to do the same..and he realized that there were no fans there, Adam had a interesting look on his face here
The fact he actually said it reminded him of his days on the indies 😂
He thought he knew there were fans on both sides of the building
His eyes are much more focused on stage left during his Dynamite debut tonight, along with only running to the stage left during his entrance, seemed interesting
Did you see him come out of the heel tunnel on Dynamite to avoid looking at the right side of the arena?
Damn you watched it?
Darby will retire before he’s 35 if he keeps wrestling like this. Love the guy but damn it’s super cringe when he takes bumps like the pointy steel steps.
As long as he's humble about it at 35, fair game. It's the guys that whine about their aches that did stuff like this that I have no sympathy for. He knows he will be living in pain, he doesn't care. He's either stupid or doesn't plan to live that long.
@@Parallelocamwell, he should probably focus more on doing less and getting bigger crowd reactions as well as get paid and not live in pain? I mean, if he settles down and starts a family his mindset might change.
“He looks like a recently released political prisoner. Somebody has been mistreating him somehow. He escaped a crossed a border somewhere somehow.” I laughed so hard at this.
Travis with another masterpiece, goddamn hahahaha. The AEW supermarks are calling this show like transformative, yet their world champion went on first in a throwaway short match because he wanted to GTFO.
They call every single AEW show the best show ever, which has REALLY got AEW BACK ON TRACK!
Are we talking about tranquilo club 😂
@@Yeaahh2 ;)
The fun these two must have just talking with each other.
Corny is the funniest man alive when he's selling the sponsor's product
Kingston is more like Moxley than they want to admit.
God damn it you're so right somebody has to say it actually don't get the hype in the guy at all
Just so everyone knows, I did some math work on Hangman Vs Swerve. During the part where Swerve was hit with the Deadeye on the stairs, they were on the outside in total for 93 seconds. I sat there doing a referee style count, and I got to count 47.
Omg 😂😅 wow 😳 not surprised
@@InsShogunGage I watched the referee the whole time being full of shit
What's exactly the point of having a ref in ael?
@@ralphso5567not going through with a three count and making ray Fenix drop the plumber on his head 😵
@@TheSlamSociety the refs in AEW are a joke 🤣
AEW has become a variety show.
There's no way Inoki ever dreamt of 20 something odd white guys no selling shit. He'd have given everyone involved in this shit shoot Burning Hammers bro. 😭😭😭😭😭
That was all complete bulls hit. The only reason AEW did another eight hour PPV monstrosity was so the guy who was Edge could come out at the end. I’ve just seen a comment from someone saying they cried when that happened, and it was well worth $50….
@@DavidOwen-yv8wz I thought Jeff Hardy dancing down to the ring while his brother was facing a firing squad was bad, until I saw the full length Paul Walker driving off into the sunset style montage they slapped together for Edge to rush and save Sting from getting his skull caved in 😂😂😂😂
I have to agreed with Brian Last of all people that all those older wrestler are loyal to Vince NOT to TKO and Ari Emmanuel. So when Edge offered to wrestle more for a certain amount of money, they will decline despite Edge being a HOF legend.
Cupping isn't a Japanese thing. I had a back issue where the chiropractor did that to my back. It's for injuries, not to look cool.
Considering everyone that Edge interacted on Dynamite tonight, apparently he will go full Chris Jericho...🤦🏻
Freedom = Not having Vince saying No to certain bs that would endanger his neck again
Mjf is too comedic for me. I don’t want the world champion of my company grabbing another guys nuts.
I'm with you. Probably wouldn't fare that well in the other company.
Oh so your not a fan of the totally not comedy Kangaroo kick 🙄
@@Will_kid_cortezin another company he’ll be wrestling for the United States or intercontinental championship
He’s been ruined since getting the belt. His comedy is hack and roid zit laden back are way too distracting.
leave to Tony to ruin MJF
Tony could ruin a wet dream
For five years now we’ve heard different iterations of All Friends Wrestling, but this has to be the first time the idea came from a child. 🤣
Funny, I thought Starks vs Yuta WAS the intermission.
I dream of less ads & sponsors in these videos. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ That would be awesome.
Ibushi WAS really good at one point (besides the goofy DDT stuff) but I have not seen anything remotely like that out of him in AEW . Its almost like he doesn't care or have the same fire he used to . IDK whats going on with him now . Injuries built up ? But at this time Takeshita blows him away . Im really liking him .He is gonna be huge ! If not here , in Japan .
Ibushi and Zack Sabre Jr. were both never better than they were at the WWE's Cruiserweight Classic tournament, the WWE Network Special PLE that inspired the creation of 205Live (also literally got Cedric Alexander a job because the live crowd chanted "hire him HHH!" and HHH actually did it after booking Cedric to lose in Round 1 to Butch (he was still the Bruiserweight at that point). When these indy guys who can't help themselves are booked by someone (HHH and Bryan Danielson and Nigel McGuiness were all 3 involved in booking the CWC) who knows what they're doing they shine-- unfortunately in AEW the inmates run the asylum so we get cold feuds that are hyped as "Dream Matches" even tho it doesn't matter who won between ZSJ or Danielson, or who got the pinfall in that Trios non-match Ibushi or Takeshita... the outcomes and the endings don't matter cause there's no storyline.
Unlike the CWC, where there was a storyline created in real time for literally each match, if there wasn't Cedric Alexander would've been fired like Shelton Benjamin but to this day he still works at WWE and gets a great reaction from fans. The power of good booking right there.
I hate to say it but I agree, this is definitely not the same Ibushi that dominated NJPW a few years ago. I know he jacked his shoulder up pretty bad and had to take time off, which eventually led to problems with NJPW entirely. He didn't wrestle for like 2 years and this was like only his 3rd or 4th back so I'm trying to give him the benefit of doubt because I know how fucking good he is but he just seems completely uninterested in wrestling. Like he's only there right now because a Kenny asked him. Hopefully I'm wrong and it's just ring rust/new company, new country jitters.
I remember first seeing him the WWE cruiserweight tournament and he was phenomenal. Should have won really but he didn’t want join WWE full time.
I think he made a mistake with that, he could have been huge
Brian doesn’t seem to want to be doing this anymore.
14:27 "Awesome box" after the Women's match lol. I bet they do got awesome boxes
Brian loves Julia's! He simps for her hard.
Tony is thinking about me, obviously given his reaction! lol!
Corny is right in that the psychology in wrestling today just sucks. What's worse is it's not improving. No matter how loud we yell the kids don't listen.
just about lost it when I noticed this thumbnail. The results of TK’s “wrestledreams” lmao
I was at the show and I could say that there definitely was boos for the young bucks but I feel like aew lowered the crowd noise for that reason 💀💀
Nothing is better than falling asleep to Jim Cornette....Err NVRM!!
The indie guys need to go to ROH
Jim, I usually agree with you 110% of the time, but Danielson vs Sabre Jr was a fantastic match. Yes there was no story, and that’s terrible booking, but it was a fantastic technical match.
My life improved when I decided to stop watching All Effete Wrestling. Nothing I've heard on the podcast has caused any regret.
Oh lord I was waiting for this review so bad. Wrestlenightmare haunts me to this day lol
I bet u enjoyed the nxt ppv tho💀
@@scotthemond5750yeah that show was actually good
@@scotthemond5750NXT is better that’s why their ratings are beating dynamite now
It’s not kiddo and the only reason they have decent ratings is bc they have main roster people show up nor do they hear aew in the ratings💀
@@scotthemond5750Cope
A 5 hour PPV? I haven't watched 5 hours of AEW in the 4 years that it's existed!
It was only 4 hours
@@aaronrumph3291 Zero hour.
Then your opinion on the show is worthless.
@@morlun838 I didn't offer an opinion, I stated a fact. Thanks for being too stupid to know the difference.
you truly represent the majority of people here, butthurt for something they dont even watches
I like Zack Sabre Jr. But, he is missing a few pieces to be a real believable top guy. He still has a lot of bad Indy habits.
I think Brian saw this right. I’m sure edge got quite a stipend, and if they let someone with half a brain book this, edge and christian heeling out together is a license to print $.
You have to do the feud, we have seen them together we never seen them feud why they were at there highest point as stars. its fresh, and it will be great, eventually face or heel you will team them up, hell even a match with the hardys is an special attraction.
When Jim does these ads, i can actually hear Brian facepalm
Maybe if big poppa pump was on the mic calling the matches this could of bèen fun
Steiner would be doing bicep curls using Hack Perry and Blandon Cutlet as dumbbells while referring to Moxley as drunken Cincinnati white trash and a homeless bum.
14 match’s 5hrs holy shit!! That’s to damn long of a ppv to watch.
ECW wrestling had the best ppvs. I miss that company.
💯
RVD had some good fights with Jerry Lynn and Lance Storm.
As someone who does grappling, having a fucking BJJ white belt try to be the expert commentator on a grappling match is assault on my ears and years of work.
Please. Moxley’s opponent simply left the cage after watching him carve himself up with a gussett board because “it’s badass and Fuckin dope!!”
Honestly, being in the building... it was way more awesome than I expected. Paid 43 bucks (with fees, 35 before) to get a floor seat right next to the right entrance and the wrestling stans really are carrying this company. The folks around me had great energy. Also accidentally bumped into Aussie Open in the back when they were clearly lost.
#betterthatexpected #fun
"He looks like a recently released political prisoner". LOL, the one and only Jim Cornette
oh man the thumbnail alone cracked me up
I was there...Corny you hit it on the head. It was SO long. I left early because I had to work the next day and figured Edge wouldn't show. Missed the best part because I was just done after 4+ hours. Should have been 3, 3 1/2 hours max.
Edge is in the HOF. He was put in the year after he initially retired.
I would've never thought of the Erik Watts comparison with Wheeler Yuta before Brian mentioned it but it does kinda make sense. I will say though that Yuta's more talented even though that might not be saying much.
I know Edge is a legend but i just simply dont care that much about him
Never cared for him that much I don't get what everyone likes so much about him.
For how much Jim seems to like Takeshita, I wish he'd use his actual name.
no you don't, take is a great nickname, he's been dropping the "shita" part
Moxley is also known in the mma world as the Bible of Martial Arts.😂😂😂😂😂
The master of "Death Jitsu".. lmfao 😂
Never liked him, terrible, his silly facials are the worst convincing
Even worse than Beckys
, 😂😂,
Cornette = G.O.A.T.
racist cornette lol
Cornette and his folks = hateful virgins lmao
Inoki Baba and Misawa never dreamt this
HEY, as a TRUE depressed alcoholic i would pummell HANGDICKS head until it looked like ground beef coming out a deflated basketball.
Need to push the hell outta Swerve. I think he could beat MJF. I prefer ZSJ and Osprey now that they have put on size. I think the Bryan ZSJ match was good.
there is no reason for jim to be more entertaining just reading his notes, than the actual ppv....... please tony make us care about any of it, i don't care about the friendship storylines
Julia Hart vs Statlander was actually the only reason I wanted to watch the ppv. I see Jim wasn't a fan but I loved the match was coming out of my seat by the end of it. I know Julia is getting married and taking time off but I hope she's back sooner rather than later.
Getting married? She's like 16..
This Nick Wayne thing is so ridiculous. The guy is extremely green, skinny and he appears more than most wrestlers who have been with the company a lot longer?!
There's no reason to turn him heel because nobody cares about him and there's no purpose to turn on Darby!
I can't wait for the "It Rules Ass: Brian Does Moxley Impressions Omnibus". It's dope...
“TakeAShit just looks like a STAR!” 😂🤣😂 Complimenting a guy by using the name you insult him with tickles me
Love your back in wrestling. Had to check out MLW
Hahaha 3ft tall had me laughing so hard I was crying 😂😂😂😂i always get a kick from out of the show
Hahah🤣 this review was GOOD , finally Brian is having a mind of his OWN! Good job on this one!
It's insane how long he can talk about his sponsors
It does start to grate on my nerves after about the 7th minute or 10th joke, whichever comes first. Is it ironic that Jim always bitches about the brakes on Raw? This feels like the same thing lol.
Money
@@kristenjones4306 Jim doesn't go to commercial mid-commentary of a match so when the ad ends you've missed him explaining the parts of the match he didn't like and the whole thing has no context left. The problem with commercials in Raw are that they're mid-match so the matches don't flow properly and as little wrestling as possible is on the wrestling show.
@@kinginthenorth1437 There's more talk about wrestling on here than there is actual wrestling on Raw.
His ads are funny to 😂 unlike the five minute commercials for the Lexus I've seen 1,000 times that I can't afford.
I’m so thankful for Jim and Brian. They watch this shit so I don’t have to
In the immortal words of Antonio Inoki, “STOP IT. BULLSHIT.”
I wonder what Jim's blood pressure reading is during these reviews? 😂
Actually I detected undertones of glee in his voice at certain times. Definitely some matches got his blood boiling, but there was a certain gleam that I hadn’t heard in a while
I did several rewinds on the stairs too.
Sabre's hair looks like someone pissed on his head
A Rocky Horror Picture Show sighting!! 🥰
There was a really good 3 hour ppv Hiden in the show
"Do you remember when the best British Wrestler in the world was Billy Robinson?" Yes actually, because Excalibur reminded everyone watching at home!
for the record, it was a crown headband, not a belt that hit Hangman Page
Swerv is from my home town Tacoma
And I still live there 65 years
My condolences.
@@TheJollyMisanthrope ha ha good one
The next match was Jericho, Kenny Omega and his 'Life Partner' Kota Idushi😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Edge had his career, had his comeback, now he’s getting a multi-million dollar cherry on top to finish his career with his best friend. Vince probably encouraged him to go, he wasn’t gonna offer him a full time deal worth nearly what Tony Khan would. So why not? You know Tony’s gonna do a massive show in Toronto for Edge and Christian’s final match, it’ll probably be the main event at the Skydome, and he will have the perfect ending to his career. There’s literally no negative, other than he’s gonna have to work with the Nick Wayne’s of the world…
Very good review from Jim and Brian. I was at WrestleDream. It was amazing, but it was indeed too long. I wouldn't have minded 1-2 less matches. The Christian/Darby stair spots was weird. Jim's explanation makes sense. The last one did look so nasty. The crowd was so hot for Swerve and others. It was great seeing Barnett and Claudio chain wrestling.
I was certain that Edge would not go to AEW, and I was blown away when he came out. Overall, I really enjoyed the PPV, more than anything WWE related I've gone to, but AEW does prove that you can have too much of a good thing. I felt similar when watching a PPV on TV, after a while, I had my fill of over the top matches. Very valid points from both. The red spots on Ospreay was weird looking and I had no idea what it was. There is so much more I could go over, but in the end, I loved WrestleDream.
Great review Brian is a fool for oh wait there’s a movie?! 😯 Jim always spittin the brutal truth gotta luv it!
The thought of Edge and Christian vs FTR is very interesting,
You know what would be really cool if they put all the big-time contract names stipulations if company goes out of business they could go and get paid to wrestle any promotions under that guaranteed money just to help boost independent promotion
The thumbnail 😂😂😂
18:27 ohh Brian , KONAN😂
OMG that image........LMFAO
LMAO that picture of tony
Cornette actually showed his hand here. No one who actually watched the Statlander/Hart match wpuld have complained about them going "too fast."
I thought the girls did great
@@sy-ky_buddy4603 they tried... but they certainly didn't rush or move too fast. 😆
Yeah I felt like a lot of people are not on Jim side on this tell Brian got real quiet
@@paulcarpenter7844 i didn't particularly like the match, but not for lack of effort. Statlander and Hart just aren't particulalry skilled yet. The match was very "indy." In any case, whether you liked ot disliked the match, they weren't moving too fast. Julia and Kris very clearly got lost on at least 3 occasions and started sheepishly walking through their spots unsure what the other person was about to do. 🤷♂️
Not everyone is seeing things with your eyes.
We need a Cornette "Help Me Brian" shirt..
13:10 What I like is basically Kris Statlander said in the media scrum that nobody is teaching her a thing in a male dominated profession. I think she said they told her to "be like RVD" OMG!!!
14:05 and I hate to say it but why I like womens wrestle well STARDOM those girls take some pretty nasty bumps but theyre 5'0-5'9 100-160 pounds
Not true Tony made MJF stick around for dumb ass media scrum . But I get your point and I’m big fan of MJF and Corny too. 9:26
DARBY IS CRAZY HE WON'T BE WALKING AT 50
50? try 40 .
@@AGxAG maybe 30
Brian seems checked out on this episode
What is khan doing under the sheets wacking the struddle 😂😂😂😂
The lights went out when Adam debut. How can they attack in the dark? Still funny though