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Why NASCAR’s Next Gen Car is (Mostly) Failing

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
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    Are you a NASCAR fan? If so, you know about the NextGen car. If NASCAR on Fox is terrible, the action itself is not much better. NASCAR Cup Series is boring. There's a lot of bad racing, lack of action on track. Martinsville and Richmond are boring. Unfortunately, it's not living up to the hype. The NextGen car was supposed to revolutionize NASCAR, with promises of better racing and lower costs. But so far, it's hasn't met its intended goals. This has frustrated both drivers and fans alike. Overall, it's safe to say that the NextGen car is quickly becoming . NASCAR has a lot of work to do if they want to salvage this experiment. Thanks for watching the video. Don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more NASCAR updates.
    In this video, we discuss why the NASCAR NextGen car has been deemed a total disaster and why it is considered a failure. From design flaws to performance issues, we delve into the reasons behind the recent negative reception of the NextGen car in the NASCAR community. Stay tuned to learn more about the challenges facing this new generation of NASCAR vehicles.
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  • @mathewhosier9739
    @mathewhosier9739 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Only in NASCAR does better performance and grip translate into "bad racing", maybe these regulations would be better if the teams were actually allowed to build their own cars

    • @eggselent9814
      @eggselent9814 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nope in most big racing series this has been the case. F1 had become extremely fast by like 2020 but the racing wasn't competitive.
      MotoGP has become the fastest it has ever been but the racing has become worse because overtaking has become much more difficult and the bikes have become to wide
      WRC: the Rally1 class has failed completely and will be changed

    • @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
      @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eggselent9814spot on! I think people who keep complaining in NASCAR should look at the other racing series as well. We know that playoffs shouldn’t belong there but at least the races except short tracks and some road courses has been entertaining. You can tell with the increases of attendance and TV ratings.

  • @zackjay71
    @zackjay71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    They ruined what was the best part. The individual manufacturers battling for who made the best cars. I checked out back when they unified the cars

    • @prodigy-hu6dy
      @prodigy-hu6dy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well you must’ve not been a fan for a very very very long😊 time then

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The last time manufactured battled For who made The better car was in the 60s my guy

    • @Cuhh346
      @Cuhh346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@antoniestrada1972until 91 when they still used “production” shells, decklids and nosecones

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cuhh346 A modern day GT3 car is more stock than the stock cars in the 90s

    • @Cuhh346
      @Cuhh346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@antoniestrada1972 always has been 🔫

  • @kimper7598
    @kimper7598 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    i want nascar to remove downforce like they had in the gen 4s

    • @Trainlover1995
      @Trainlover1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Toyota will never allow it. They wanted more downforce because then they could have less HP and blow less engines, and they bitched and moaned to NASCAR to get their way.

    • @kimper7598
      @kimper7598 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@WyldStallion-bs9oo no

    • @Trainlover1995
      @Trainlover1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@WyldStallion-bs9oo Better idea: Trans-Am TA2 cars (the Toyota teams can run Dodge Challengers).

    • @tylerstooksbury3050
      @tylerstooksbury3050 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They have less downforce than the Gen 4 cars. Denny Hamiln specifically has mentioned that.

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Trainlover1995how about leaving Trans-Am alone?

  • @tomstrawmyer4980
    @tomstrawmyer4980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I've been bitter about the car change since the drivers were talking about taking really hard hits in a crash. This car is hot garbage.🗑️

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The car is in hot garbage it's just the way that nascar implements it

    • @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
      @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you were ignoring about the positive notes which most drivers said?

  • @mattandsam32
    @mattandsam32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's not just the car. Nascar itself is failing its fans and drivers around every corner.

  • @ic3man
    @ic3man 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The charter system is failing too imo
    So too is the playoffs, stage racing, Arca, etc…

    • @OTCHooly
      @OTCHooly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep 💯👍

  • @misfortuneteller24
    @misfortuneteller24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've heard this with every new generation of car. It'll be fine.

    • @drumnbasssakuga9352
      @drumnbasssakuga9352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I genuinely wonder how much of the “you can’t pass!” is a placebo effect. I need someone to crunch the numbers on passing and lead changes in previous nascar generations vs now.

    • @seannolan9857
      @seannolan9857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@drumnbasssakuga93522010 and 2011 were the high water marks in terms of lead changes. Tandem drafting may have skewed those numbers higher though. If we remove Daytona and Talladega from the equation, 1982 would be the record holder. Which seems shocking for a year where two drivers won 2/3rds of the races, but there you go.
      One stat about the nextgen that does stand out is that we had the largest number of races with single-digit lead changes since 1980.

  • @craigconstable9407
    @craigconstable9407 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thats why SVG is in the states because the next gen car in Australia is terrible & thats why he is pretty good on road courses in them in the states because he had 2-3 years helping in the feedback of the development but to no avail.

  • @30SRacer
    @30SRacer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just even on IRACING it's boring to drive. I prefer the 80s racing all day.

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      iRacing built a marketing campaign of lies around the Gen 7 car. The Gen 7 car you see in the game is not the same as the real life version since Austin Ogonoski has exposed the fact that the Gen 7 car in iRacing is extremely inaccurate and is a sign of disconnect between the devs and the sanctioning body.

  • @Jose-Gomez
    @Jose-Gomez 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The Gen-6 Car is 1000 Times Better With The 2014 Package, Than The Next-Gen Cars, Except For The Rounded Rear Bumper.

    • @jamex98
      @jamex98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2014 season was so underrated

    • @Jose-Gomez
      @Jose-Gomez 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jamex98Agreed, 100%.

  • @catbird1759
    @catbird1759 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    It has gotten too expensive for the teams to build the cars which transfers to the price of the tickets. A NASCAR race is equivalent to going to Disneyland now.

    • @king1dmt
      @king1dmt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Trying to go to Darlington next Sunday will run me about $200 just for tickets 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @JohnnyUtah13
      @JohnnyUtah13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@king1dmt weird....we have been paying around the same price point for years now. around $60 for lower section seating at Kansas. We will be at the start finish line row 8 for $68 per ticket. Maybe its certain tracks/regions. Kansas is still reasonable IMO.

    • @wxracer23
      @wxracer23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@king1dmtI just looked at SeatGeek, they’re looking like $60 a ticket

    • @R8Spike
      @R8Spike 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Last time I checked Michigan was like $35 for the worst seats in the track

  • @ayyveezee2079
    @ayyveezee2079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It's a heavy GT car on the road courses that doesn't have any aero performance benefits of a asymmetrical body for the ovals.... They got the worst of both worlds. The HP is too low for as heavy as these cars are.

    • @Trainlover1995
      @Trainlover1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The HP is low because Toyota wants it to be low. They’re too lazy and cheap to develop reliable high-horsepower, naturally-aspirated V8 engines they way they can develop turbocharged V6 engines for IMSA and WEC, so they bitched and moaned to NASCAR to change the rules in their favor, Chevy and Ford be damned. They got half of their wish. Now they just need drivers who aren’t a bunch of disasters who wreck during green flag pitstops at Talladega or start crap with Kyle Larson.

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The problem is that the cars are actually slower compared to the GT3 cars they were often compared to. iRacing built an entire campaign of lies in order to convince people that this was a good car when in reality it wasn't. It also exposes how iRacing is so disconnected from reality.

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Trainlover1995Did you not watch the video it literally says Dan Wilson of Toyota is open to more horsepower

  • @adamclarke7394
    @adamclarke7394 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sadly, the situation with NASCAR isn't an isolated problem. I have been a lifelong fan of Australian motorsport, with Supercars adopting a new control vehicle philosophy last year. Supercars (or V8 Supercars as it used to be known), offered amazing racing in its original form, but it has become processional. The series organisers are slow to address significant parity issues between manufacturers and will muzzle drivers who are critical of the new cars. I missed the Bathurst 1000 last year for the first time since 1972, and from what I've seen of the post-race reports, I didn't miss much! NASCAR needs to take action before fans vote with their feet by not attending races. They have been warned, but it remains to be seen if they will listen. If the Australian scene is an accurate guide, it is doubtful.

  • @CoolCat_24x
    @CoolCat_24x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Grooved tires is not even really necessary, just add horsepower and more importantly give the cars more tire falloff. probably the number one thing that could help the most is tire falloff, just look at bristol

  • @cobb556
    @cobb556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't add treads or groves. Keep them slick and narrow them, something Chad Knaus advocated a decade or more ago.

  • @davidvalderrama1816
    @davidvalderrama1816 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Discovered and came to love NASCAR in 1989. I can’t get interested in what it has become. I was impressed and became a fan of Gordon’s in his rookie season.

  • @Robert-S-World
    @Robert-S-World 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    What I have seen of the next gen car and what I have heard I do not like it. It feels more like it was designed to copy other racing spots to try and bring them in and NASCAR has always been a stand out for the style it had

  • @philosopherpresident4896
    @philosopherpresident4896 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I agree about the gen 7 car but I will say for me personally I like the intermediate tracks the most because it is more about individual skill and strategy to win those. I feel like the super speedways get kind of random and I wish the short track package was way better lol.

  • @herrdog265
    @herrdog265 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As for the rear diff... how many cars these days have solid axles? Pretty much just trucks. I think the center lug is more of a slap than an IRS

  • @prizrakten3587
    @prizrakten3587 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should have made a series of NASCAR that is road circuit built, and kept the gen 6 for oval racing

  • @benjaminwitte5184
    @benjaminwitte5184 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I feel like I've given enough time for the next gen car, and I just become more and more convinced it's wrong. In every way possible it's wrong for Nascar. You outlined so many points that I completely agree with. The ONLY way to fix the cup series product is to readapt the COT chassis that the Xfinity series is currently using, with higher HP, maybe longer wheel base and run that. 20+ years ago the monte carlo that ran in the cup series looked the same physically as the then Busch series. Same for Ford and Dodge and later Toyota. The next gen car is a complete failure, Nascar needs to just suck it up and throw in the towel. It's okay! It was a nice try, it looked bad ass at Le Mans, take a step back and learn. If you put all the current cup drivers in all Xfinity series cars, the racing would be fantastic.

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just race Xfinity cars with 750 horsepower, simple as that!

  • @user-fh4fn5pm5q
    @user-fh4fn5pm5q 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hate the new cars, can't even look at them, it's like match box cars with crappie paint schemes!

  • @bluegrassboy2448
    @bluegrassboy2448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God, please make this video viral. I have been forwarding my idea of axing the Next Gen Car

  • @aaaaaaab11
    @aaaaaaab11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gave up on corporate Nascar years ago Grassroots racing Is where it's at.

  • @offgridRC
    @offgridRC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NASCAR used to be my favorite. Now a days it's my backups backup on race weekend.
    The ding a lings that run this sport don't know what they're doing and keep throwing shit at the wall.
    I mean for God's sake they didn't even know what their own rules were involving wet weather tires.

  • @billkraemer4710
    @billkraemer4710 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These cars do provide a good opportunity to nap when watching TV. You know there is a real problem when they gotta make a sticker to indicate where the exhaust pipe would have been on a real car.

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah they're gonna have stickers of the tailpipes the same way they have stickers of the headlight And tail lights

  • @spd-kv6sd
    @spd-kv6sd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm dropping my two cents abiyt the HP, which I don't understand why is so low. There are road cars that have 600 hp, even by common manufacturers. 800 hp is pretty much enough and this would neither be that expensive, nor would it be that much of a high jump. But it will provide at least crazier racing.

  • @speed4brainz
    @speed4brainz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You mentioned how the manuacturers are not wanting to up the horsepower. I ask why? Look back to 2011-2016. Great racing. This is NASCAR, not the National Sewing League. These execs need to get their heads out of their asses.

    • @Trainlover1995
      @Trainlover1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They don’t want to up the horsepower because then the engines would fail more, and that won’t sell cars on Monday. Toyota is ESPECIALLY guilty of haranguing NASCAR to lower the HP and heap tons of downforce on the cars.

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Trainlover1995 hate to break it to you but "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" is obsolete.

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LOLRacing06I doubt many people are buying cars because of how Kyle Larson and Ryan Blaney raced on Sunday anymore.

  • @polycube868
    @polycube868 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This car could have been really good if it had a traditional stock car suspension, a solid rear end gear and the old 4 speed H pattern, no diffuser and undertray, and the old brakes and the old tires and of course 750 horsepower...at least 750, needs to be 800 or 900+

  • @shawndixon4536
    @shawndixon4536 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The death of NASCAR to me was the original "Car of Tomorrow" (CoT) in 2007. Between the "import tuner" looming front splitter and rear areo wing, it started the boring race era. Add the 1.5 mile "cookie cutter" tracks, the new points and the playoffs, and it was becoming unwatchable. Watching iconic drivers retiring didn't help either, as being a fan since around 1980, the sport did not evolve kindly.

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That car was still miles better than this crappy ass next gen...and it actually had full horsepower and was hard to drive and you actually had to lift out of the throttle a ton to make the corners, I'd take the 2011 debugged COT over this next gen shit any day. I HATE HATE HATE these new cars! They ruined all the good tracks and made the bad tracks slightly less awful.

  • @Cuhh346
    @Cuhh346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It became a failure the moment they got rid of cenetered door numbers

  • @ShaunHensley
    @ShaunHensley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Spec-car racing is for schmucks. Real motorsports fans appreciate the competition in the garage and on the drawing boards

  • @polycube868
    @polycube868 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't see how low horsepower could be more "green" if they really wanted to be "green" 900+ horsepower and synthetic fuels.

  • @Jaydem2805
    @Jaydem2805 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "What are you talking about!? This is waaaaay better than the previous Gen cars! Did you see the race at Kansas last weekend?! And not only about the racing, the cars look more like their road going counterparts. Anyone who says the Gen 7 car is failing or is a failure is smoking Crack. I'd take this car over any of the previous Gen cars!"
    Said nobody...

  • @j-pem8127
    @j-pem8127 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You took the words right out of my mouth

  • @DB-zp9un
    @DB-zp9un 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I keep looking for the single lug tires on a car I can buy off a showroom floor from chevy ford toyata etc etc..

  • @AcManoloxkasha
    @AcManoloxkasha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We Want The Old Cars Back like the Chevy Lumina or Monte Carlo

  • @tuftyterror983
    @tuftyterror983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the improved intermediate racing. But they need to let teams build their own cars like they did before. And let them make their own bodies too.

    • @effend446
      @effend446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The problem is that it has become too cost-prohibitive for the teams to build their own cars.

    • @asantewatson8379
      @asantewatson8379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NASCAR doesn’t share enough money with the teams for this to be an option

  • @bumblebee6090
    @bumblebee6090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    The next gen car is a disaster

    • @bumblebee6090
      @bumblebee6090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@ericdawalga8019 do I need to explain the Xfinity car exist in that car from I've seen is a lot better than the next gen all of the issues the next gen car has needs to be handled now rather than later

    • @Mattyice2000
      @Mattyice2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Not really there has been some great races with the next gen

    • @manueltjuhh3807
      @manueltjuhh3807 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It really isnt

    • @Mycarisloose
      @Mycarisloose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Typical youtube hyperbole. This is just for whiners who agree. Moving along

    • @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
      @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s just exaggeration. The Gen6 really was and drivers and fans were complaining about the poor performance in racing and handling, notably Denny’s complaint in 2013, which he got fined by Brian France

  • @kyleenglandracing701
    @kyleenglandracing701 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can we just use the xfinity cars? Those put on the best races 😭

  • @user-su5jp7lk8g
    @user-su5jp7lk8g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey man right on. Do not forget about those POS Goodyears.

  • @mathewhosier9739
    @mathewhosier9739 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The next gen cars could totally work in a road racing series with more horsepower, more downforce and lighter cars with a carbon fiber chassis, basically a field of garage 56 cars only racing at road courses and street circuits, but for ovals with stock cars, less performance usually means better racing, its completely backwards of what you would normally want, but stock car racing isnt like open wheel or sportscar racing, but even the gen 6 cars had a horrible problem with dirty air, does anyone remember the 550 HP package from 2019? The intermediate racing is far better now

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Unfortunately, they don't work in road courses at all. Also, go watch Trans Am if you want a road course only series.

  • @prodigy-hu6dy
    @prodigy-hu6dy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a younger fan I hated the looks of the Gen 6 cars and I love the looks of the Gen 7 so much. It’s sleek and mean looking, but I won’t deny that the racing quality has gradually been on a downturn since 2023. I think the single lug wheel, lower greenhouse, more aggressive lines, and shorter decklid make for a clean race car. It’s simple to fix the car and make for better racing

  • @RoadTest-cl3jz
    @RoadTest-cl3jz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just don’t understand what was so wrong with the old car?

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The gen 6 was fine NASCAR just wouldn't stop fucking with the horsepower and aero packages.

  • @giannimaisonet8389
    @giannimaisonet8389 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It least one of the Stock Cars won't go flying into the catchfence like Kyle Larson, there's no way race fans won't go injured - not again.

  • @matthewjachtorowicz3943
    @matthewjachtorowicz3943 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey at least the Next Gens look cool IMO

  • @NPC-Gamer
    @NPC-Gamer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hear me out, 1 race with the cup drivers in the xfinity cars with 900hp
    That would literally fix racing overnight.
    But Nascar doesn't want to have that conversation..

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      NASCAR knows they fucked up the cars and don't want to admit they were wrong!

  • @LOLRacing06
    @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok so I know a lot of people haven't brought this up but as much as we love to hate on the Gen 7 car, we might have to look at a certain elephant in the room who had "involvement" in the development. Yes, I'm talking about iRacing. Turns out they spent a whole year building a marketing campaign of lies surrounding the Gen 7 car. Turns out at a few tracks, these cars actually have faster lap times than GT3 cars in iRacing. Austin Ogonoski exposed this a few years ago and it somewhat went under the radar. Honestly, how on earth do we expect to trust a game studio like iRacing with any kind of motorsport when they're going to screw it up? They did it with every car they touched and it was all under our noses. If this is what we are going to expect for NASCAR 25, then I'm predicting that the reception ain't going to be good.

  • @michaelwallace1861
    @michaelwallace1861 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Removing the car builder and the driver has not improved racing.

  • @trevorshark16
    @trevorshark16 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The car looks great but it does have issues. Hopefully NASCAR fixes the Next Gen car, but it's not likely because they don't like to admit when they're wrong

  • @TylerBonenfant
    @TylerBonenfant 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ive been having a hard time keeping interest in the cup series because of these cars, ive been watching the xfinity series more than i ever have

  • @dougcox2537
    @dougcox2537 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    $400k plus before they drop an engine in it. How much does the National Association "SPORT" Car Automobile Racing get off of these cars. The team can't even paint their own chassis. They have to that done by the third party that build them. If I wanted to watch Trans-am road race I would go to a Trans-am race. I turn the TV on only to see how many Fans Are NOT in the stand. Notice how they have painted the seats different colors, so it makes it harder to see how empty the stands are. GO BACK TO STOCK CAR RACING OR I HOPE THEY GO BROKE!!!

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The race teams aren't happy with NASCAR, I hope some of the big teams split and start their own series with SMI and independent tracks and they can go back to real race cars and not this Trans-AM GT shit

  • @doninwv
    @doninwv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for having the balls to say out loud what the 'comments' sections have been saying pretty much everywhere: these generic kitcars suck. NASCAR has screwed the pooch in nearly every way. Xfinity is the best racing of the major divisions now.

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The drivers hate these cars too.

  • @SHARKYBOI345
    @SHARKYBOI345 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 7th gen isn't a Stock Car. They should just bring back the 2007 4th gen cars.

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do I need to remind you how much of a death trap the gen 4 was and not to mention how ugly It looks

  • @classicforreal
    @classicforreal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Car of Tomorrow 🚫
    Next Gen 🚫
    Well that's a good track record (pun intended)

  • @presidentcovfefe
    @presidentcovfefe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don’t know why NASCAR is trying to be something it’s not

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      capitalism. Always has been that way. Even when it first started.

  • @DV1287
    @DV1287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only good thing the Next Gen is decent at is the intermediate tracks. even then, it is still not as good as gen 6 2014. Also, road courses & short racks are an issue in terms of packages rn (but didn't us, the fans, requested more just to hate it?) But then again, this video just proves even more of my belief that nascar fans are spoiled. Listen, *YALL ARENT GOING TO GET WHAT YOU WANT ALL THE TIME.* Just enjoy what the product is right now & I know in a couple of years, everyone will be saying "I miss when this racing was fun".

  • @NextGenNitro
    @NextGenNitro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The intermediate racing is great at least

  • @metrichotrods1763
    @metrichotrods1763 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sims. Take the computer out of it and go by feel. Or, just give us the early 00s wedge 900hp monsters and let god sort them out

  • @kurtnielsen6684
    @kurtnielsen6684 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It’s a IMSA car not a stock car.

    • @Trainlover1995
      @Trainlover1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      LMDh cars running on an oval is actually a tantalizing prospect to me.

  • @appalachiadawgs8043
    @appalachiadawgs8043 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well said. We just need the xfinity car with a little more power

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how about a new car modeled after the Canadian series car?

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LOLRacing06now THAT I'd watch! Love the Pinty's Series cars. That's what NASCAR should have evolved into if they stuck with the old rules.

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polycube868 unfortunately they have their own flaws. When they gone to New Hampshire back in 2018 and 2019, the cars weren't really that suited to longer ovals and instead were suited to the shorter ovals and road courses. Couple that with the fact that Canadian NASCAR fans keep getting screwed over by TSN on a regular basis.

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LOLRacing06 Pinty's Series also had low car counts, and it costs more to race than what winning is worth.

  • @appendix_gang2245
    @appendix_gang2245 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the best thing for NASCAR would be premier league style promotion and relegation where the drivers with the 3 worst points totals lose their spot to drivers in the next league down

    • @seannolan9857
      @seannolan9857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That would mean that being a championship contender in Xfinity would get you a ride at Rick Ware Racing, where you'll almost certainly get shuffled out quickly.

  • @kharnthebetrayer1575
    @kharnthebetrayer1575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hold on …. Toyota only is down with a HP increase on tracks Less than 1 mile and road courses. They don’t want an increase at all tracks .

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TRD president David Wilson says Toyota is 'open' to more horsepower in NASCARCup Series

    • @kharnthebetrayer1575
      @kharnthebetrayer1575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@antoniestrada1972 Toyota Racing President, David Wilson, is saying that Toyota is open to raising the horsepower of NASCAR's Next Gen car to improve the car's racing ability on short tracks - ovals that are less than 1 mile long - and road courses.

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kharnthebetrayer1575 They don't make specific engines anymore

    • @kharnthebetrayer1575
      @kharnthebetrayer1575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@antoniestrada1972 again that is what the president of TRD said the full quote.

  • @orionlopez139
    @orionlopez139 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Take everything out of the next gen package besides the intermediates

  • @racefan7616
    @racefan7616 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    What I will say about this is that people bitched about the COT, then bitched about Gen 6, and now bitch about the NextGen. Frankly, I would not be surprised if people bitched about Gen 4 at some point in its lifetime.
    Whenever the Gen 8 arrives, in whatever shape and with whatever flaws it has, I 100% expect a hefty chunk of the fanbase to backtrack and say the NextGen was a fantastic car and that Gen 8 is a failure.

    • @JakeSimRacing
      @JakeSimRacing  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Absolutely. Hopefully we get enough data on this car over time to really show them what fixes are needed. They had the COT racing pretty good by the end of its lifespan.

    • @Trainlover1995
      @Trainlover1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gen 8 will be SUVs.

    • @jakobbuckles4472
      @jakobbuckles4472 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, because the quality of racing has just declined since the departure of Gen 4. Each generation it has slowly gotten worse

    • @thecoolaidman3369
      @thecoolaidman3369 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jakobbuckles4472denny hamlin said the competition today is harder than back when he started. These are real drivers in a real car. I’ve enjoyed the next gen car tbh

    • @trevorshark16
      @trevorshark16 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People absolutely hated the COT when it came out.

  • @KenC4242
    @KenC4242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just like college football nascar is leaving it’s traditions and simping for tv and marketing gimmicks 🙄.totally going away from on what makes them unique trying to be something there not.

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They've been dependent on the networks since the mid 70s.

  • @polycube868
    @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:57 amen brother! I'm appalled this is reality!

  • @macdadyoo6659
    @macdadyoo6659 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do a job and France needs tell the board to change their ways or wipe the board top to bottom or he needs to go

  • @tammyhightower6551
    @tammyhightower6551 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s Better than the tail end of gen 6 with the 550 package where the cars drove themselves on mile and half’s Kyle Busch even said that

  • @joebrumbach9863
    @joebrumbach9863 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The next gen car is a disaster for the sport. Independent suspension in the rear does not belong on a cup car. IT WONT SLIDE!!! IF it starts to break loose it goes around immediately. There is no finesse that a good driver could bring out. All we have is follow the leader

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I finally got to go to a race in 2021 at the Bristol night race, all night long Kyle Larson was power sliding the corners slide jobbing lapped cars moving from top to bottom and back...THAT was REAL RACING!

  • @ethancali9301
    @ethancali9301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, I was a bit of a NASCAR fan back in the early 2000's. My brother and I would routinely go to the races at Fontana and watch all the big events on TV together. I completely lost interest with all of the gimmicks and BS like the "playoffs" the "chase" "stages" and all this other artificial stuff which just diluted the racing. My main racing loves now are Formula 1 and MotoGP. However, I've started to try to get back into NASCAR and I actually like the new cars. They look great, having the ground effects is interesting, but its a complete joke that they derated the engines so much. I agree that they need to put groves in the tires and up the power. Those are pretty simple fixes.
    Watching a race though, I literally have no idea how anything works. Its so counterintuitive. The stages are terrible, I don't understand why the restart order is different from the finishing order of the stage. Then I watch the racing and I'm just not interested enough to justify trying to figure it out. Also, the sponsors changing mid season and the cars total design and colors changing race to race is terrible for casual fans.

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      F1 unfortuntately is guilty of the same issues.

  • @laszlozsoltnagy6413
    @laszlozsoltnagy6413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who’s grown up watching f1 (being a european), I’ve started watching nascar in 2023, and let me tell you, you haven’t seen boring races before if you think this is bad 😂. At the same time I get your point, I can’t imagine what it could have been back in the day then..

  • @dalejr183
    @dalejr183 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NASCAR going the way of the country. Too many politics and weak leadership that go for the money and screw the hand that feeds them.

  • @JollyRogerRacing000
    @JollyRogerRacing000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like a better version of a stock car GT hybrid are the Trans Am TA and TA2 cars. Like a stock car purpose built for road course racing. Problem is Trans Am doesn’t have the viewership that NASCAR and IMSA does.

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't care about viewership. Besides, you can watch all their races on TH-cam for free.

  • @MICKEY4356
    @MICKEY4356 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Too many road course's. 🏁

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually, the cars just suck.

  • @effend446
    @effend446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way I see it, say that they should consolidate the truck series and run the pickup trucks in the cup series going forward. No more restrictor plates and add more horsepower.
    The reality is that the only legit car worth racing is the Ford Mustang. Especially with Chevy ending production of the Camaro. Toyota still has a strong seller in the Camry, but it’s front wheel drive/4 cylinder.
    A NASCAR racing vehicle should be rear wheel drive-based, and the sad reality is that only the Mustang fills that bill as a car. Pickup trucks are where it’s at and more than 90% are rear wheel drive. And Ford and Chevy still offer a V8 as a half-ton option.
    My point is that pickups from the truck series would better serve the cup series and further incentivize NASCAR’s “win on Sunday sell on Monday” tradition. Because there will always be a demand for pickup trucks in the USA.

  • @aldouscoroza
    @aldouscoroza 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    NASCAR should have Built the Gen 7 Car for IMSA instead not the Cup Series, lets be Real

    • @LOLRacing06
      @LOLRacing06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nah. IMSA is better off not having stock car culture bleed into it.

  • @waynemangan7200
    @waynemangan7200 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As soon as they rolled out this "toe- arm" oval track racing abomination, it's been exactly the oval track farce anyone outside the NASCAR exec sorority house knew it would be. As a 35 year fan, I always watch Xfinity and CUP, but clearly, We need to get CUP back onto Xfinity chassis and bodies to return to the muscle car like driving dynamics that have defined NASCAR stock cars and racing style through it's most successful decades. Lower D.F and more sidewall, less width, and more suspension travel.

  • @Username_Invalid
    @Username_Invalid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video summed it up perfectly.

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Gen 1-5 were true peaks of NASCAR Cup cars. Yes I know the COT was divisive, but at least they were fast and got better each year.
    Gen 6 had potential from 2013-2014, then failed in 2015 (besides Kentucky and Darlington), it got good in 2016, 2017 was solid, 2018 became good the 2nd half of the season, and the nail in the coffin was 2019-2021 for me.
    Gen 7, holy cow… I’ve been saying it’s a bipolar car….

  • @TheKaurajuoma
    @TheKaurajuoma วันที่ผ่านมา

    We want more horsepower! More horsepower!

  • @x1_n_only_jtm_
    @x1_n_only_jtm_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do the manufacturers even get into Nascar or racing if they don't have the passion or do what's best for the sport?

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The problem Isn't manufacturers it's a sanctioning body

  • @alanluscombe8a553
    @alanluscombe8a553 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Bro this new car is a lot better than the car we just replaced. Some people will never be happy. The car races a ton better

  • @allencharlei8351
    @allencharlei8351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    You can't take road racing cars and call them stock cars.

    • @grahamcrackergaming1540
      @grahamcrackergaming1540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Trans Am TA and TA2: “Am I a joke to u?”

    • @jimmccall-yo7es
      @jimmccall-yo7es 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry but that's an idiotic thing to say

    • @drumnbasssakuga9352
      @drumnbasssakuga9352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Touring cars in other series are literally stock cars under a different name, even V8 Supercars used to use solid rear axles like NASCAR, y’all really dont know anything about

    • @allencharlei8351
      @allencharlei8351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drumnbasssakuga9352 Negative

    • @allencharlei8351
      @allencharlei8351 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it ain't working out too well is it

  • @rdlangston13
    @rdlangston13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t buy potential manufacturers wanting less horsepower. F1 has 1000 hp and they are having to turn down manufacturers. I just think the people in the NASCAR corporate office are fools.

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same, and IndyCar in 2 weeks is debuting a new engine with more horsepower, NASCAR is just a back asswards series that only succeeded because of the racing itself and the drivers, not because of the sanctioning body, more like it succeeded inspite of the doofuses running it!

  • @aojracing4885
    @aojracing4885 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yup. I really wanted this car to be good, but the more races I watch, the problems become more obvious. It doesn't produce that much turbulence to the sides, so any track with more than one groove (Charlotte, Kansas, Homestead, Vegas) is really good, but it produces way more turbulence at the rear of the car, so pretty much every narrow/flat/single groove track has become worse (so every track a mile or shorter, all road courses, Pocono and, as no doubt we'll see this year, Indianapolis). That's way over half the schedule.
    The worst part is there are ways to improve this, but Nascar has repeteadly refused to do so. Not to mention the awful safetly issues that lead to Kurt Busch's career ending injury, issues the drivers expressed concerns about multiple times to no avail.
    Nascar has been looking for a good racing package for so long now, and the Xfinity car is right there!

  • @antoniestrada1972
    @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So the real title is nascar is ruining the next-gen's potential

  • @eldiablort1461
    @eldiablort1461 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't hear this in the video so it's something I wanted to bring up as well: this car is LESS SAFE. For an organization that prides itself on safety, Kurt Busch is now retired. Why? Because of this car. We're lucky Ryan Preece is still alive and not retired. This car is completely giving a ton of shock to the drivers when the wrecks happen....and face it, Nascar wants the wrecks. But it's not safe in these pieces of crap. I'd address that before any sort of horsepower increases or less traction. You start adding those two things in, people will be wrecking more. And if you get more wrecks, people WILL absolutely get hurt more in these particular cars. Bank on it.

  • @Jaydem2805
    @Jaydem2805 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's not the cars....it's the suits running the show that's ruining it. They've said F the true blue fans...I quit watching the races. I'd rather watch the highlights on a small content creators channel and support them. Nascar been dead since 2003

  • @__boomer2__
    @__boomer2__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not only does the car produce boring races, it's also horribly unsafe. We've had more injuries in 2.25 seasons compared to 15 seasons with the COT and the Gen 6. It needs to go, like, NOW.

    • @trevorshark16
      @trevorshark16 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They have improved the safety ever since Kurt Busch had his accident

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really hard hits are hard hits no matter If it was the COT or gen6

  • @Mattyice2000
    @Mattyice2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The intermediate races have been good, like Kansas, Charolette, Darlington and then auto club

  • @keatonhanlon8216
    @keatonhanlon8216 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I want to remove downforce and add horsepower and tire falloff as much as anybody but you can't deny that the nextgen car has brought more viewers to the sport. I'm really looking forward to the "option" tires at north wilkesboro

  • @polycube868
    @polycube868 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The next gen car made me lose interest in NASCAR, poor racing product on short tracks and road courses, I ain't a fan of cookie cutter 1.5s, sure they race slightly better but I don't think better 1.5s were worth killing the racing on short tracks, road courses and unique ovals, also 550 package was over-hated had it been say the 625 package might have actually been pretty good.

  • @fogalicious2644
    @fogalicious2644 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nascar has no excuse. They had years to develop the car!!! Wtf were they even doing?!

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah they have years of development in simulators to in real life racing

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah the have years of development with simulation and data but sometimes that doesn't translate into real life racing

  • @memolestas1017
    @memolestas1017 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Personally, call a race car who give us 19 different winners in his first year "failiure" is a complete over-reaction.
    Its the fresh air breath that nascar needs, but the next gen car needs a lot of work.

    • @trevorshark16
      @trevorshark16 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hope they boost the HP up again

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Finally someone said that everybody acts like every nascar before the nation with some gift to God to nascar When in reality they all had their problems

    • @Cuhh346
      @Cuhh346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “If everyone is super then nobody is” equal playing field + dirty air = no passing for the lead

  • @cgcoins3639
    @cgcoins3639 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just go back to the previous generation of car, why waste time trying to make this one better!

  • @DaltonTaylor-vr3tg
    @DaltonTaylor-vr3tg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Okay look if you think the next gen is bad we’ve had so many good races with next gen car and has attracted more attention towards nascar and the sport is growing after many year of Brian the brain dead France I can actually we are in better situation but fox is still bad

  • @aldouscoroza
    @aldouscoroza 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Honestly just get rid of the TransAxle, Diffuser, Independent Rear Suspension, Toe Link, and Sequential Gearbox. Go back to What worked, but keep the Symmetrical Body, And Hood Vents, Raise the Splitter Run an Unrestricted 650 - 800 HP Engine, Front Air Ducts, and Run a 5 Speed H Pattern Shifter
    these Gen 7 Cars are Australian Supercars, but Much Worse on Road Courses and Short Tracks.

  • @kuraimauri
    @kuraimauri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bring back the 4 gear transmission

  • @user-zq1px9yb7g
    @user-zq1px9yb7g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stopped when you lied about the reason we don’t have more HP! Let’s go back to when Nascrap had all the cars fitting one template & then the COT! With those two failures, Chevy & Ford went to Nascrap & told them they would leave if the cars did not have individual identity again! There was NEVER anything said about HP! Nascrap decreased HP for “safety” reasons! If the manufacturers, ( not F1’s OEM’s) were the reason, drivers, crew members & owners would have spoken out about it! As it is, they constantly say NASCAR will not give HP back!
    The racing across the board with this kit car is crap! The mile & a half tracks have push to pass on all restarts! Passing IS hard after a couple laps! It’s BORING! There is NOTHING positive that can truly be said about this wannabe “race car”! It was supposed to help with road racing & that’s been worse than ever before with this new kit car!