Thanks for posting Bob, ive had my Turnigy I6 for 4 years and never found of even looked for that function, just done all of my current flying models, cheers Mate ! Loved the video, right to the point, not enough Brits posting how to vids ive found, the Yanks tend to waffle a lot then i loose interest, Keep up the good work ;0)
I agree about too much waffle on some 'how to vids'. Drives me nuts sometimes too! It can be 2 or 3 mins before they even start to get to the point. :(
Given a decent day I'll try it. I had to guess a position for elevators. What you don't want of course is it spiralling into the ground hard! :( But then again too wide a circle and it may still disappear? Though with some luck it'll come back into range!
Dang you Bob. I could have used this 2 weeks ago! Eventually found Andrew Newton's tutorials so all is well now. Easier to understand the accent also! :D How's the current weather event affecting you? I remember getting chased out of the Welsh border country in 2007 & half drowned even over in Lincoln. Great trip though. :-)
Not so bad in the South-west and I'm on high ground, but parts of Wales and the Midlands have really big problems. Worst floods for many many years. Heartbreaking for some people. We've had never ending strings of high winds, exceptionally high winds, big lows, and exceptional rainfall.
Actually this method of ensuring it just doesn't keep gliding on is best done with a stabilizer on board. Otherwise even just that little bit of aileron will keep the wings rolling until she stalls with no power on and heads straight down. (Except if you've left the dihedral in and use only minimal aileron offset.) A small (equivalent) stick offset with "stabilized and self leveling" selected limits the plane to a circling motion. Still better than letting it head off Gawd knows where though. ;-)
Doesn't need a stabiliser mate, in an unintentional signal loss I set the rx fail safe so that the motor stops, ailerons go into a slight turn and then it will circle and glide down. Unintentional is the keyword here. These beepers (for £3) are good once it's down and maybe in a tree or long grass and you can't find it. A lot cheaper that a flight controller too. Saved and helped me locate a few of mine that I lost control of and that came down in scrub. Just turn off the tx and within 60 secs it starts beeping! It's a lovely sound to hear when you've c.cked up!
@@bobflyman Yep, all good on the buzzer Bob. But (unless I'm mistaken-often am! 😉) you might be missing the point of my comment. If you set the receiver to fail-safe to your 17% aileron offset (as I have done often without giving it much more thought) then that deflection is held. So not like when you manually add an aileron deflection to tip a wing up/down to make it turn but then release the stick when it sits up to the required angle. The wing (if no dihedral to stabilize it - or stabilizer) will just keep on rolling to a higher and higher bank angle surely? Or have I got that all wrong? 🤔
@theoztreecrasher Interesting, I'm old and easily confused 😉. Never had a stabiliser on a model so no nuffin about them, and I do see where you're coming from. I'd assumed it would just circle and glide down, but as you say, it might go in ever decreasing circles and wind in fast! I guess if you only set a little bank angle it might be ok. Or rudder, though most of my stuff I don't build in rudder. I'll have to test it sometime 🤥. Or you test it! No hold that. I just thought, as you say when you move the stick make a turn, say 90 degs, then release and it goes in a new direction. So circling is the only way you get it to stay where you are till it comes down?
I did some Googling, I must admit I don't see anyone else suggesting trim the ailerons to a bank. I do see RC Adam suggest pitching the nose up? If it stalls who's to say what will happen? I see suggestions for full flaps and left or right rudder. I dunno mate!
@@bobflyman 🙂 Yep, Bob. It's got to circle stably without outside influences. Rudder offset with fail-safe has the same problems as aileron offset.It causes 1 wing to fly slower than its mate thus starting an ever-increasing roll. = spin in! Thus, if you think about it, there are only 3 ways to achieve the desired result. All requiring motor off. 1... A stabilizer set to failsafe to "Beginner/Angle/SAFE/Auto-level with bank limits and your "17% Aileron". (That doesn't make the ailerons go to "17%" - it limits the bank angle to 17% of the stab-limited maximum allowed bank angle.) 😉 2...Wings with dihedral/polyhedral (effectively variable length wings) which would reach an equilibrium with the fixed aileron input - thus countering the progression to an ever-increasing roll. 3...A 2-stage failsafe procedure - where there is a brief aileron twitch to roll the wings a little bit for a turn but the ailerons then return to level to hold that limited roll. All this is without considering the elevator! 😱 But under 1 this can be similarly set to a limited down flight path, while 2 and 3 will probably be taken care of by the tendency of a plane to nose down under less than 1/2 throttle. Thus increasing speed until the wing starts to pull it up etc. Excelling myself with academic analysis today! 😏🙄 Of course this could be all just BS! 😁 Best wishes for the fast approaching Season anyhow,mate! And keep the builds coming. 😊
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Thanks for posting Bob, ive had my Turnigy I6 for 4 years and never found of even looked for that function, just done all of my current flying models, cheers Mate ! Loved the video, right to the point, not enough Brits posting how to vids ive found, the Yanks tend to waffle a lot then i loose interest, Keep up the good work ;0)
Great job! Glad you found it useful mate.
I agree about too much waffle on some 'how to vids'. Drives me nuts sometimes too! It can be 2 or 3 mins before they even start to get to the point. :(
@@bobflyman And of course they don't use proper English, do they me old china plate. :D
@@theoztreecrasher2647 too right me ole mucker.
Well done Bob, it would be fun to see how the model would glide with no throttle and just a little bit of aileron to simulate a lost signal.
Given a decent day I'll try it. I had to guess a position for elevators. What you don't want of course is it spiralling into the ground hard! :( But then again too wide a circle and it may still disappear? Though with some luck it'll come back into range!
@@bobflyman Only if you fly upwind. ;-)
@@theoztreecrasher2647 haha , funny enough I was thinking exactly the same thing! But mostly flying is, or should be anyway, done upwind !
Dang you Bob. I could have used this 2 weeks ago! Eventually found Andrew Newton's tutorials so all is well now. Easier to understand the accent also! :D
How's the current weather event affecting you? I remember getting chased out of the Welsh border country in 2007 & half drowned even over in Lincoln. Great trip though. :-)
Not so bad in the South-west and I'm on high ground, but parts of Wales and the Midlands have really big problems. Worst floods for many many years. Heartbreaking for some people. We've had never ending strings of high winds, exceptionally high winds, big lows, and exceptional rainfall.
Actually this method of ensuring it just doesn't keep gliding on is best done with a stabilizer on board. Otherwise even just that little bit of aileron will keep the wings rolling until she stalls with no power on and heads straight down. (Except if you've left the dihedral in and use only minimal aileron offset.) A small (equivalent) stick offset with "stabilized and self leveling" selected limits the plane to a circling motion. Still better than letting it head off Gawd knows where though. ;-)
Doesn't need a stabiliser mate, in an unintentional signal loss I set the rx fail safe so that the motor stops, ailerons go into a slight turn and then it will circle and glide down. Unintentional is the keyword here. These beepers (for £3) are good once it's down and maybe in a tree or long grass and you can't find it. A lot cheaper that a flight controller too. Saved and helped me locate a few of mine that I lost control of and that came down in scrub. Just turn off the tx and within 60 secs it starts beeping! It's a lovely sound to hear when you've c.cked up!
@@bobflyman Yep, all good on the buzzer Bob. But (unless I'm mistaken-often am! 😉) you might be missing the point of my comment. If you set the receiver to fail-safe to your 17% aileron offset (as I have done often without giving it much more thought) then that deflection is held. So not like when you manually add an aileron deflection to tip a wing up/down to make it turn but then release the stick when it sits up to the required angle. The wing (if no dihedral to stabilize it - or stabilizer) will just keep on rolling to a higher and higher bank angle surely? Or have I got that all wrong? 🤔
@theoztreecrasher Interesting, I'm old and easily confused 😉. Never had a stabiliser on a model so no nuffin about them, and I do see where you're coming from. I'd assumed it would just circle and glide down, but as you say, it might go in ever decreasing circles and wind in fast! I guess if you only set a little bank angle it might be ok. Or rudder, though most of my stuff I don't build in rudder. I'll have to test it sometime 🤥. Or you test it!
No hold that. I just thought, as you say when you move the stick make a turn, say 90 degs, then release and it goes in a new direction. So circling is the only way you get it to stay where you are till it comes down?
I did some Googling, I must admit I don't see anyone else suggesting trim the ailerons to a bank. I do see RC Adam suggest pitching the nose up? If it stalls who's to say what will happen? I see suggestions for full flaps and left or right rudder. I dunno mate!
@@bobflyman 🙂 Yep, Bob. It's got to circle stably without outside influences. Rudder offset with fail-safe has the same problems as aileron offset.It causes 1 wing to fly slower than its mate thus starting an ever-increasing roll. = spin in!
Thus, if you think about it, there are only 3 ways to achieve the desired result. All requiring motor off.
1... A stabilizer set to failsafe to "Beginner/Angle/SAFE/Auto-level with bank limits and your "17% Aileron". (That doesn't make the ailerons go to "17%" - it limits the bank angle to 17% of the stab-limited maximum allowed bank angle.) 😉
2...Wings with dihedral/polyhedral (effectively variable length wings) which would reach an equilibrium with the fixed aileron input - thus countering the progression to an ever-increasing roll.
3...A 2-stage failsafe procedure - where there is a brief aileron twitch to roll the wings a little bit for a turn but the ailerons then return to level to hold that limited roll.
All this is without considering the elevator! 😱 But under 1 this can be similarly set to a limited down flight path, while 2 and 3 will probably be taken care of by the tendency of a plane to nose down under less than 1/2 throttle. Thus increasing speed until the wing starts to pull it up etc.
Excelling myself with academic analysis today! 😏🙄
Of course this could be all just BS! 😁
Best wishes for the fast approaching Season anyhow,mate! And keep the builds coming. 😊