I kind of wanted the Saturn one so bad but I don't love the Saturn enough to have gotten it haha. I'm very happy with the black but the SNES I imagine would feel really nostalgic.
Great video as usual! I already did some work on the buttons and bumpers to make them quieter, im really enjoying this little thing but the rp5 is what im really excited for.
I hope the Mini isn't a fling 😅 I should have known you started making the buttons quieter haha, I wish I could put the 4's black coloured buttons in but tbh the sound isn't annoying me like the SP did. I really want the 5 now but I definitely can see myself doing my old school gaming on the Mini.
@@-roetaka yeah I can't stand loud buttons 😂 I can definitely see myself using the mini as a daily device for a lot of GBA and SNES RPGs, it's perfect for that stuff but I'll have to see how I feel after I have the rp5 in my hands.
@@AishTalksTechMe neither lol. I think the RP2S buttons are even a little loud(and the ones on the Mini seem to be worse). But swapping the Sakura RM playstation buttons in quieted them a little bit on the RP2S. I'm probably gonna put those in the RP5 as well if they'll work cause they are easier/more comfy to roll between. What'd you do to your RP Mini to modify/quiet those buttons?
@@AishTalksTech Ah, makes sense. Just shaved a little off the top of the rubber membranes after removing the buttons that are tacked down 👍 I guess you can't do too much so that they don't go flush or below the shell, or if the key/legs came out of their slots
I'm getting this to replace my miyoo like you mentioned. The retro pocket 5 isn't even on my radar because of its size. I already own the Asus ROG Ally X. I want something small and portable.
For those dealing with bad frame pacing on Dolphin, it's because the device currently seems to have some kind of bug that has Vsync OFF on Android. I made a video on my channel that shows how to set Vsync to On for each game individually, since Dolphin doesn't have a Vsync toggle. Hope it helps everyone until an OTA update comes out to fix this issue! (Also applies to ASX2 and Duckstation, but those have their own Vsync/Sync to Host Refresh Rate toggles)
It's actually a bug with older android versions. I've been dealing with this since I've owned the Retroid Pocket 3+ on android 11. The mini runs on 10 I believe. It's nice to see someone else mentioning this issue and the same solution. I racked my brain on this issue for months and it really bothered me that NO ONE mentioned the terrible frame pacing on any Retroids running older versions of Android. Later android versions like 13 and 14 don't have this vsync issue which is why the RP4P and the coming RP5 will be good without this pacing issue. I think this issue with the Mini should be talked about more.
@@ProphitDesigns Oh wow, so it's dependent on the Android version itself? Here I was thinking maybe Retroid just messed up somewhere, but it's a bug of the android version itself? Interesting. Hopefully the 13 update should fix that then! Glad to see I'm not the only one talking about it!! (:
I haven't bought any of these emulator handhelds yet and actually just found out about them. The RP5 seems excellent to start with. It seems they've pretty much perfected what such a device should be like, so arriving late to the party isn't such a bad thing. 😅 Think i'm going with the 16-bit version. Nostalgia and all that.
I think it's kind of like cars, there are great cars for any kind of person and then cars that fit certain kind of people, if the Odin 2 is the BMW of handhelds then the Retroid Pocket Mini is like a jazzed up Mini Cooper and that's perfect for some haha.
It really is a great looking little device. I would choose the mini over the 5 any day of the week. I never really understood why manufacturers always seem to go for a 16:9 screen when 90% of what you will play on it is made for a 4:3 screen. I would even take 3:2 over 16:9. The screen on this looks amazing, I do wish it was 4inches though.
I prefer 4:3, but my eyes are getting too old so I had to go with the 5 for the bigger screen. At least it'll also make NDS and 3DS games better to play, being able to keep both screens visible at all times.
16:9 screens can handle more consoles. PSP and Nintendo handhelds fit better. A lot of games from SNES and up have widescreen hacks. The RP5 is just 1mm taller and about 1mm thinner with a wider body. With the 5.5" screen. It will play 4:3 a little bigger than the mini. I really wanted to get the mini, but playing psp sucks on a 3.5" 4:3 screen, GBA isn't bad, but will look better on a 16:9.
the lagging in the menus of mario kart wii is most likely caused by the .thps (video format for the wii) that play when selecting a mode/course there are codes to disable those completely which should fix the lag, there are a bunch of other optimisation codes for this game as well, some of which are hideous such as a low poly code for the characters (pls dont try this) + a 30fps code but clearly this doesnt need that 😭 i also recommend trying out online in this game sometime via a custom server, it works really well and it's still pretty active
It’s interesting how F-ZERO GX Fire Field ran at a locked 60fps in this video but not in other reviews I’ve watched, what settings/dolphin build did you use to run it?
Lots of reviews forget to re-enable dual core. Dolphin likes to automatically disable dual core on f-zero and you have to fix it in the per-game settings.
Main reason I'll get the RP5 instead of the Odin 2 is the swelling batteries on the AYN, even happened to yours, and I'm not sure if you even played it much until it happened
Weird thing is the swelling went down a bit after not using it for a while. It got used from time to time, especially testing out games, but not like a super daily thing. I'd blame charing it a lot on the dock but I have my GEEK1S docked all the time and haven't had a problem with that.
Wait, the batteries on the odin 2 are swelling? I'm contemplating to buy an odin 2 instead of the rp5, because I would really like to play switch, but it costs 50% more and I really don't like the bigher size, but such battery issues are a big no for me..
Is this common problem? Have the cause been identified? I also have Odin 2, currently there is no swelling, so hopefully my device is safe from this problem.
Those clackety buttons became more and more annoying the longer the video went on. Do you think disassembling it and putting electrical tape on the pads might mitigate the issue somewhat or is the noise coming from the buttons running on the glass front?
Based on a tear down I've seen...so you have the plastic buttons which are glued to a circular rubber membrane and those have a contact that when it touches the circuit of the motherboard it registers an input. It's the way the button springs back that's making the most sound so as @AishTalksTech mentioned in another comment he decided to trim the rubber membrane to reduce the noise. I'm curious if SakuraRetroModding will make some buttons, he usually makes buttons that are a a touch rounded and shorter so that could be a fix but if the rubber membrane really is just too tall then that's mostly the culprit and a trim could help. I'm not sure if I wanna do it myself but I do have new buttons coming and I really don't know why they didn't ship with the Mini.
Ordered an Odin 2 recently and hope I won’t regret it with the Retroid 5 screen. But from the size of the Retroid 4 I still think it’s a bit cramped for bigger hands
It's very hard to have regrets about the Odin 2. I think the RP4 is fine dpad gaming, the Mini is actually more comfortable and the sticks feel easier to use even for bigger hands, I'm, hoping the 5 will be similar for its new ergonomic design.
How do you feel about the mini? would it replace ur Pocket device? i got the SFC coming in and its gonna be my main pocketable device along side the Odin2.
Yeah I guess it's debatable if you wanna say the RPMini is pocketable or not but I think it is, I'm thinking the RP5 might take the spot if it isn't that much bigger but I'm loving the size and 4:3 screen.
Hmm I do actually find it decently comfortable to use everything on the device except the triggers, I just find them too tight and wish I could pull down on the edges more. I actually find the 4's triggers nicer to use but since that device is flat it isn't as good. When I'm mapping buttons for emulators I'm feeling like I would prioritze the shoulders, so if it was Gamecube I'd put the L and R buttons on the shoulders and Z on L2 or R2, just because I'd find it more comfortable to play.
How is the feel of RP Mini in your pocket? And also the screen size, do you feel it's big enough to still be enjoyable? I want to upgrade my RG405M, but still not sure if it's comfortable enough in my pocket as good as RG405M.
It's like a slightly chunkier smart phone (mainly because of the ergonomic grips), I suppose if you had to be super critical then the sticks could be a little flatter, I'm actually a little curious about sanding down the stick or cap but it could lean into the inner ring and not give a proper range of movement.
That's unsual. I was playing PaRappa the Rapper just fine, however since the face buttons have a slight travel to them you'd have to get used to pushing the buttons in quickly.
@@-roetaka Hi roetaka - love your videos - could you create a video for Odin 2 with all settings,homebrew and apps for obtanium. I know you have posted in other videos but searching for them in I hour videos(I love those btw) is difficult. And pls increase frequency of videos - just talk about random things and games for an hour
@@-roetaka :) yeah that. Sorry. I thought you said there was some setting you forgot that can change performance for some games. Some games run better after you start the game, then swipe, then click that. I assumed it just toggled between software or hardware rendering.
@@thebobizzle I'm not really sure what that's achieving? There's only a few very hard to run games that benefit from it and it is much more demanding than using the GPU.
I preordered the 5 and am waiting (im)patiently for it to release, but if a Flip 2 comes out shortly after, I'm really going to kick myself for not waiting... The thought never crossed my mind.
Imagine dropping $300+ on Odin 2 to then shortly get baited to buy the Odin 2 Mini - only to still grab a RP Mini That’s handheld addiction at its finest 😂
Is that what happened to you lol. I avoided the Odin 2 Mini and I think I made the right call there, it's expensive and I kinda think the RP5 is gonna be a truer Vita style even if not completely in its look.
Yes it is, there's a link to the handheld in the description and Wii is playable. Bare in mind it doesn't come with roms, all the setup of emulation and getting roms is down to you, and for a beginner I very much recommend retrogamecorps.com/ for tips and guides.
I'm ngl I'm thinking based on them being mostly similar specs and that you can buy buttons from their store that they're gonna be mostly the same. However, the 4 and 5 are interchangable, so that will be interesting.
That will probably change nothing, since as far as I know you only change the plastic buttons, but the click noise comes from the board under the plastic buttons.
@@Watamel0n The board isn't using dome switches so there are things that can be done to mute the noise, I'm also looking forward to custom buttons as I think I'd really want those for the Mini.
@@-roetaka Wait. I saw another video where they took it apart and the buttons on the 4 aren't interchangeable. The 5 buttons are glued on to the rubber membrane.
I will give credit oled looks good.....screen is definitely small didn't see the point of this with the RP5 being sold and I wouldn't trade my Odin 2 mini for either this chip is too dated I like having too much power a one and done.....
After playing around with Switch emulation Im realizing 99.9% of Switch games are so lame anyway just adult visual novels and old ports the RP5 could be great.
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Stable 60 at F-Zero GX, set up properly and hardest track to run, thanks, all TH-camrs should take their work seriously.
I was going to go for the SNES colour scheme, but the black really does make the screen pop even more impressively by the looks of it. Cheers!
I kind of wanted the Saturn one so bad but I don't love the Saturn enough to have gotten it haha. I'm very happy with the black but the SNES I imagine would feel really nostalgic.
Agreed Im surprised I dont see more sfc RPM’s online.. or any at all
That edit from Smash Bros to Twilight Princess was a cool transition
Great video as usual!
I already did some work on the buttons and bumpers to make them quieter, im really enjoying this little thing but the rp5 is what im really excited for.
I hope the Mini isn't a fling 😅 I should have known you started making the buttons quieter haha, I wish I could put the 4's black coloured buttons in but tbh the sound isn't annoying me like the SP did. I really want the 5 now but I definitely can see myself doing my old school gaming on the Mini.
@@-roetaka yeah I can't stand loud buttons 😂
I can definitely see myself using the mini as a daily device for a lot of GBA and SNES RPGs, it's perfect for that stuff but I'll have to see how I feel after I have the rp5 in my hands.
@@AishTalksTechMe neither lol. I think the RP2S buttons are even a little loud(and the ones on the Mini seem to be worse). But swapping the Sakura RM playstation buttons in quieted them a little bit on the RP2S. I'm probably gonna put those in the RP5 as well if they'll work cause they are easier/more comfy to roll between.
What'd you do to your RP Mini to modify/quiet those buttons?
@@Ap616 I just trimed down the rubber membrane so that it was a little shorter, the pad is too tall and smashes the buttons whenever you release them.
@@AishTalksTech Ah, makes sense. Just shaved a little off the top of the rubber membranes after removing the buttons that are tacked down 👍 I guess you can't do too much so that they don't go flush or below the shell, or if the key/legs came out of their slots
I'm getting this to replace my miyoo like you mentioned. The retro pocket 5 isn't even on my radar because of its size. I already own the Asus ROG Ally X. I want something small and portable.
Always like your mic sound, buddy. Great job as usual! 👍
Damn bro what a pleasing voice you have.
For those dealing with bad frame pacing on Dolphin, it's because the device currently seems to have some kind of bug that has Vsync OFF on Android. I made a video on my channel that shows how to set Vsync to On for each game individually, since Dolphin doesn't have a Vsync toggle. Hope it helps everyone until an OTA update comes out to fix this issue! (Also applies to ASX2 and Duckstation, but those have their own Vsync/Sync to Host Refresh Rate toggles)
It's actually a bug with older android versions. I've been dealing with this since I've owned the Retroid Pocket 3+ on android 11. The mini runs on 10 I believe.
It's nice to see someone else mentioning this issue and the same solution. I racked my brain on this issue for months and it really bothered me that NO ONE mentioned the terrible frame pacing on any Retroids running older versions of Android.
Later android versions like 13 and 14 don't have this vsync issue which is why the RP4P and the coming RP5 will be good without this pacing issue.
I think this issue with the Mini should be talked about more.
@@ProphitDesigns Oh wow, so it's dependent on the Android version itself? Here I was thinking maybe Retroid just messed up somewhere, but it's a bug of the android version itself? Interesting. Hopefully the 13 update should fix that then! Glad to see I'm not the only one talking about it!! (:
I haven't bought any of these emulator handhelds yet and actually just found out about them. The RP5 seems excellent to start with. It seems they've pretty much perfected what such a device should be like, so arriving late to the party isn't such a bad thing. 😅
Think i'm going with the 16-bit version. Nostalgia and all that.
I think it's kind of like cars, there are great cars for any kind of person and then cars that fit certain kind of people, if the Odin 2 is the BMW of handhelds then the Retroid Pocket Mini is like a jazzed up Mini Cooper and that's perfect for some haha.
I'm just waiting on the rp5 to come
This looks like a more comfortable mini wii u gamepad and I'm all for it
Great review :) What's the device at 33:50, an Odin 2 / Odin 2 mini?
Thank you, it's the Odin 2 Base model.
SO grateful the RG35XXSP can play Death Jr. 2 PSP. I'm playing it as I type this.
It really is a great looking little device. I would choose the mini over the 5 any day of the week. I never really understood why manufacturers always seem to go for a 16:9 screen when 90% of what you will play on it is made for a 4:3 screen. I would even take 3:2 over 16:9. The screen on this looks amazing, I do wish it was 4inches though.
It's because of the switch emulation. I also prefer 4:3 handheld, hopefully we'll get more like this with bigger screen and better specs.
I prefer 4:3, but my eyes are getting too old so I had to go with the 5 for the bigger screen. At least it'll also make NDS and 3DS games better to play, being able to keep both screens visible at all times.
16:9 screens can handle more consoles. PSP and Nintendo handhelds fit better. A lot of games from SNES and up have widescreen hacks. The RP5 is just 1mm taller and about 1mm thinner with a wider body. With the 5.5" screen. It will play 4:3 a little bigger than the mini. I really wanted to get the mini, but playing psp sucks on a 3.5" 4:3 screen, GBA isn't bad, but will look better on a 16:9.
the lagging in the menus of mario kart wii is most likely caused by the .thps (video format for the wii) that play when selecting a mode/course
there are codes to disable those completely which should fix the lag, there are a bunch of other optimisation codes for this game as well, some of which are hideous such as a low poly code for the characters (pls dont try this) + a 30fps code but clearly this doesnt need that 😭 i also recommend trying out online in this game sometime via a custom server, it works really well and it's still pretty active
It’s interesting how F-ZERO GX Fire Field ran at a locked 60fps in this video but not in other reviews I’ve watched, what settings/dolphin build did you use to run it?
Lots of reviews forget to re-enable dual core. Dolphin likes to automatically disable dual core on f-zero and you have to fix it in the per-game settings.
@@fruitloops7064 must be a compatibility reason that it is disabled by default, very interesting. Thank you!
10:11 settings are here, Dolphin 2409, Vulkan, 2x, Force 4:3. That's it! 😇 (and then re-enabling Dual Core for F-Zero in its per-game settings)
Main reason I'll get the RP5 instead of the Odin 2 is the swelling batteries on the AYN, even happened to yours, and I'm not sure if you even played it much until it happened
Weird thing is the swelling went down a bit after not using it for a while. It got used from time to time, especially testing out games, but not like a super daily thing. I'd blame charing it a lot on the dock but I have my GEEK1S docked all the time and haven't had a problem with that.
Wait, the batteries on the odin 2 are swelling? I'm contemplating to buy an odin 2 instead of the rp5, because I would really like to play switch, but it costs 50% more and I really don't like the bigher size, but such battery issues are a big no for me..
Agreed that's messed up 💀
Is this common problem? Have the cause been identified? I also have Odin 2, currently there is no swelling, so hopefully my device is safe from this problem.
Those clackety buttons became more and more annoying the longer the video went on. Do you think disassembling it and putting electrical tape on the pads might mitigate the issue somewhat or is the noise coming from the buttons running on the glass front?
Based on a tear down I've seen...so you have the plastic buttons which are glued to a circular rubber membrane and those have a contact that when it touches the circuit of the motherboard it registers an input. It's the way the button springs back that's making the most sound so as @AishTalksTech mentioned in another comment he decided to trim the rubber membrane to reduce the noise. I'm curious if SakuraRetroModding will make some buttons, he usually makes buttons that are a a touch rounded and shorter so that could be a fix but if the rubber membrane really is just too tall then that's mostly the culprit and a trim could help. I'm not sure if I wanna do it myself but I do have new buttons coming and I really don't know why they didn't ship with the Mini.
Ordered an Odin 2 recently and hope I won’t regret it with the Retroid 5 screen. But from the size of the Retroid 4 I still think it’s a bit cramped for bigger hands
It's very hard to have regrets about the Odin 2. I think the RP4 is fine dpad gaming, the Mini is actually more comfortable and the sticks feel easier to use even for bigger hands, I'm, hoping the 5 will be similar for its new ergonomic design.
How do you feel about the mini? would it replace ur Pocket device? i got the SFC coming in and its gonna be my main pocketable device along side the Odin2.
Yeah I guess it's debatable if you wanna say the RPMini is pocketable or not but I think it is, I'm thinking the RP5 might take the spot if it isn't that much bigger but I'm loving the size and 4:3 screen.
How comfortable is it to play SSX? On my Odin 2 I struggle to use the triggers and the D-Pad together
Hmm I do actually find it decently comfortable to use everything on the device except the triggers, I just find them too tight and wish I could pull down on the edges more. I actually find the 4's triggers nicer to use but since that device is flat it isn't as good. When I'm mapping buttons for emulators I'm feeling like I would prioritze the shoulders, so if it was Gamecube I'd put the L and R buttons on the shoulders and Z on L2 or R2, just because I'd find it more comfortable to play.
How is the feel of RP Mini in your pocket? And also the screen size, do you feel it's big enough to still be enjoyable? I want to upgrade my RG405M, but still not sure if it's comfortable enough in my pocket as good as RG405M.
It's like a slightly chunkier smart phone (mainly because of the ergonomic grips), I suppose if you had to be super critical then the sticks could be a little flatter, I'm actually a little curious about sanding down the stick or cap but it could lean into the inner ring and not give a proper range of movement.
I love how the OLED kinda makes the letterboxing disappear.
How is the latency of the device . With my Odin 2 I missed many quick time events
That's unsual. I was playing PaRappa the Rapper just fine, however since the face buttons have a slight travel to them you'd have to get used to pushing the buttons in quickly.
@@-roetaka Hi roetaka - love your videos - could you create a video for Odin 2 with all settings,homebrew and apps for obtanium. I know you have posted in other videos but searching for them in I hour videos(I love those btw) is difficult. And pls increase frequency of videos - just talk about random things and games for an hour
Uggghhh i can't decide which color to get
on nether/aether sometime clicking the "switch hardware rendering" fixes a lot of issues.
Sorry that didn't make sense to me, are you talking about "Toggle Software Renderer" or something else? "Switch Hardware Rendering" doesn't exist.
@@-roetaka :) yeah that. Sorry. I thought you said there was some setting you forgot that can change performance for some games. Some games run better after you start the game, then swipe, then click that. I assumed it just toggled between software or hardware rendering.
@@thebobizzle I'm not really sure what that's achieving? There's only a few very hard to run games that benefit from it and it is much more demanding than using the GPU.
I will wait for the Flip 2. Would love to have the 5,5“ OLED Screen in a clambshell device.
I preordered the 5 and am waiting (im)patiently for it to release, but if a Flip 2 comes out shortly after, I'm really going to kick myself for not waiting... The thought never crossed my mind.
Imagine dropping $300+ on Odin 2 to then shortly get baited to buy the Odin 2 Mini - only to still grab a RP Mini
That’s handheld addiction at its finest 😂
Is that what happened to you lol. I avoided the Odin 2 Mini and I think I made the right call there, it's expensive and I kinda think the RP5 is gonna be a truer Vita style even if not completely in its look.
Is this legal? Is this buyable? Can we play the Wii?
yes, yes, and yes
Yes it is, there's a link to the handheld in the description and Wii is playable. Bare in mind it doesn't come with roms, all the setup of emulation and getting roms is down to you, and for a beginner I very much recommend retrogamecorps.com/ for tips and guides.
Please make a Pegasus tutorial
screen size is too small they should have released the 5 first
The buttons are so loud. I hope the pocket 5 doesn't have that problem.
I'm ngl I'm thinking based on them being mostly similar specs and that you can buy buttons from their store that they're gonna be mostly the same. However, the 4 and 5 are interchangable, so that will be interesting.
@@-roetaka that's good. 4 pro buttons sound great.
That will probably change nothing, since as far as I know you only change the plastic buttons, but the click noise comes from the board under the plastic buttons.
@@Watamel0n The board isn't using dome switches so there are things that can be done to mute the noise, I'm also looking forward to custom buttons as I think I'd really want those for the Mini.
@@-roetaka Wait. I saw another video where they took it apart and the buttons on the 4 aren't interchangeable. The 5 buttons are glued on to the rubber membrane.
Damn clacky buttons. Deal breaker for me :(
I’ll wait for the release of the full size version lol I don’t get why they would make this thing
Lol what? This thing literally fits in your pocket
I did basically make a whole video on why they would make this thing haha
If you don't get it then you're not the target audience. Good thing the world doesn't revolve around your desires.
The fact that the majority of games consoles were ~4:3 until the PS3/Xbox 360 era?
I will give credit oled looks good.....screen is definitely small didn't see the point of this with the RP5 being sold and I wouldn't trade my Odin 2 mini for either this chip is too dated I like having too much power a one and done.....
After playing around with Switch emulation Im realizing 99.9% of Switch games are so lame anyway just adult visual novels and old ports the RP5 could be great.
true yet zelda botw and smash ultimate are enough for me to need one 😭
The fact that Zelda TOTK won't run on any android handheld makes me consider getting a modded switch and stop trying to emulate Switch @@terocan9987
L take. There are a ton of masterpieces on the Switch, especially if you are an RPG and platformers fan