I just watched a later episode and people there went "Wow Jamie really opened up in the later episodes. Probably because he was glad it soon was over" lol
Feels like maybe he was still feeling a bit warmer towards Adam in the early days? Iirc Adam being on the show was Jamie's suggestion so he must have had a good working relationship with him initially. He clearly doesn't like being teased in the ways Adam likes to tease him, and there's the occasional hint that Jamie has a problem with things being hammed up for the camera. I imagine over time those things grated more and more, causing him to perhaps close off a bit.
@@G1itcher D Definitely the case. Jamie was the boss of his own well established company that landed a gig with Discovery channel . Initially Adam was brought into the show as a ‘lesser’ cohost that was supposed to bring persona and color into the mix. As Adam importance rose fast and then he was supposed to be upgraded to be an equal host to Jamie. Jamie had some teething pains because the ‘fun guy’ didn’t land on his feet, running. Adam has circled around ‘this’ on several occasions hinting that this was the case. I adore Adam to this day but this episode highlight how poorly he handled that task in front of the camera. Way more than half the shots of him is him sniping, complaining, relentlessly petty goofing on Jamie, just to push buttons. They are both not handling this change constructively at all, one might say…but Jamie wasn’t the right man to mentor Adam into his new role while he had a business to run at the same time… and he ain’t the type to no ones surprise. I would say that Jamie has “towed a consistent line” more than Adam. They both settled into their roles fairly quickly but jeez, Adam doesn’t look the part at all in this episode. It’s quite an eeeech’ watch. 😖
I don't think it's about Adam, he had worked with him before I think. It's about American TV producers. The first few seasons are gold but season 6 to 8 is often poor quality. Yes I know Jamie don't like Adam but you can work with that.
Always hated this kind of narration. How am I supposed to know how much it is? I mean Volkswagen makes loads of different cars. Even if I can guess which one they mean, I still have no idea how much.
@@d4slaimless I am not in disagreement with you here, but the fact that these analogies obfuscates the measurements may make it so the results are "impossible" to reproduce-- in case there was any foreseeable danger at all that is.
@@NathanaelManson that's not the case though. I mean they would compare the mass of dinosaur with the mass of a track, for example. It is just something typical for shows on Discovery (and some other big TV channels). Comparing some thing with other instead of saying direct value might seem illustrative, but often is quite confusing. And this is something you would hear all the time. And the main reason, I think, you don't need to research for exact measurements to say it. So it is risk free and the easiest way to write the script. If you say "this thing has a weight of 2200 kg" you need to actually check the value. But you can go the easy way and just say "this thing is massive" or "this thing weighs like a car".
@@d4slaimless We are not in disagreement, even though my answer to your remark may not be as relevant in this case, it's not as if we are talking about making explosives here. Naturally you would need to know the values for the calculations to be satisfactory and correct. No one is a fool enough to drive their family over a bridge knowing beforehand that the engineer that constructed it did so because he simply imagined or told himself that it "should just about" hold. All i am saying is that the usage of these poor analogies or guesses is that it may allow someone, like a scientist, to explain to laymen roughly how that phenomena works without having to get into technical jargon. That someone, like a chemist, can teach you the process for making bombs, without handing you the direct recipe for its explosive construction. This is my only argument, we can use analogies or comparisons to intentionally obfuscate the actual values. I am not whitewashing what he said. EDIT: Also, since when has analogies and sketchy comparisons ever been logically satisfactory. Of course they are "often quite confusing" or downright impotent, it is in the nature of the technique.
I've been lucky enough to see Elvis, the most famous Erickson S-64 skycrane of them all, take water from our swimming pool in the backyard of my childhood home in Central Victoria, Australia... It took almost all of it over 5 runs, and dispensed it on the furious bushfire burning just a few kilometres from our house. It's a truly awesome machine and those pilots have insane skills. I have some pictures of them positioning the massive machine, with barely two metres to spare for the giant rotorblades, in between the two huge ghost gum trees beside the pool and barely a metre to spare for the tail rotor (which they can't actually see) and powerlines on the other side of the fence line. Those pictures ended up on the news and on the front page of the local newspaper, which was pretty cool for a 13yo aircraft nerd to see! 😊 It was a pretty windy day too, but those guys came in like it was nothing and just nailed it first time, every time. It's always awesome to witness pros at their top of their game, operating under real pressure. And luckily in large part thanks to them, not a single house in our neighborhood (which backed right onto a huge ironbark eucalyptus forest) sustained any damage on that terrible day of widespread bushfires.
I'm not sure if it'd be online... I doubt it would be, but the newspaper it was on the front page of was called the Maryborough Advertiser and although I can't remember the exact date, it was during the fires we had in the area in the first couple weeks of February 2001. I still have the paper at my parent's house, I'll find the date when I go over there on Sunday I'll be sure to check if I can find them. I've got a feeling they also ended up in the Ballarat paper called "The Courier" too and they're more likely to have been uploaded to their digital archive I'd dare say. Maybe they were in "The Age" too... Man it's been a long time since I opened that box of memories, so I'd have to check and try digging them up. They were great pictures though, Dad had a pretty good camera and happened to be overseas on business so I got lucky to have the best seat in the house and get the pics myself. I'll try to check in a couple days and see if I can't find a link for you. It'd be fun to see them again to be honest, was one hell of a memorable day! We were going through a drought in the area at the time too... They didn't ask if they could have the water, we were out in the yard keeping an eye on the fire when the giant chopper came overhead and the pilots gave us a wave before lowering it neatly between the trees. Then came back another four times before moving on to another neighbour's pool. Without those heroes, pluse the crews on the ground, it's pretty safe to assume our house and the entire neighborhood would have been reduced to ashes.
@@mechaniclifeaus It's an incredible machine... You don't get an appreciation for how big it is and the incredible skill of the pilots until you see it operating in the (pardon the pun) heat of battle. I searched everywhere for the pics I took in a digital archive and couldn't find them, I have the newspaper from the day they were published but unfortunately they weren't archived. Shame because I think they're some of the best pics of it in action. Elvis is real legend of Australia's struggle to live in this country of extremes.
@@zsoltbocsi7546 Most of these have nothing to do with Adam as a character. Discovery apparently believed no one would watch a Reality show without some kind of "drama" so would tell them to pretend to be at each others throat whenever they could. It stopped once they got feed up with it and told them to cut out that crap.
Yeah, Adam seems to be a narcissist. He always loves the attention when he did something right, but he sure likes to point out when Jamie has made a mistake. Jamie seems a lot more tolerable as a colleague.
When I was younger (young teen) and watched mythbusters on TV, I loved Adam. Now, when I watch as a grown adult, I also like Jamie more (although both guys are great~!)
Let's not forget that even if the helicopter was able to suck the diver up out of the water , they would turn off the pump as soon as they got the water . It would drop him back down almost immediately .
11:55 Makes me think that there must have been at least one occasion where someone at a movie studio had to run down to the local store to get a banana. Because the scene required one but it got accidentally eaten between takes. Or it was supposed to get eaten but they made so many retakes that they ran out.
If those gas tank tests prove anything at all, it's how stout those small block Chevy motors actually are... Although the "octane" thing is rather missing the point of what makes higher octane fuel produce more power. I'm probably going to botch this explanation, but it's not that has more energy in it, it's that it's able to be compressed more and therefore can have the ignition timed later in the stroke. Using fuel with too low an octane rating, in an engine that demands high octane fuel, can cause it to ignite before the engine's ignition is timed to spark and the valves are fully closed, which is what's called "knocking." So that engine wouldn't be able to make any performance gains from a higher octane fuel, assuming the mothballs did in fact raise the octane in the first place, because it's not set up to run a higher octane fuel. Putting a higher octane fuel will make no difference at all, it only works the other way around. I thought Jamie knew more about engines than that, to be honest.
well, you aren't to far off with your explanation: Higher Octane means the fuel is more knock/self ignition resistant, so it won't self ignite itself at a point where it shouldn't, and while that doesn't automatically make more power, it means that you can run earlier (not later) ignition timing and make more power through that to a point, as well as run a higher compression ratio or if the engine has some sort of forced induction you can run more Boost, which will gain you a good chunk of Power. Nowadays all engines can sense Self Ignition/Knock and will adjust Ignition timing accordingly, so depending on how the engiens ECU is set up they can gain some pwoer from running for instance 98 Research Octane instead of 95, but an old Carbed V8 like that one definitely won't.
and as a quick fun fact, the fist car that automatically made use of higher octane fuel was the Saab 900 Turbo¨in 1982, it hat a system that could sense Knock and adjusted Boost accordingly, through that the Engineers at Saab could not only enabled the possibility to use lower octane fuel but also meant that it made a good bit more power while using higher octane fuel and meant that they could bump up the compression ratio by quite a bit, making the engine more powerfull and use less fuel in the process.
@@joefries365 oh yea i forgot that GM stood for General Engines and that those 2 wheeled enginized vehicles are called Enginecycle, those boats with engines are called Engineboats and Detroit was called Enginecity.
Think they should've been a bit more thorough with the helicopter fire bucket theory. There are bigger bags available than what they've shown, even if they are rare. Plus the opening has a fair bit of flex to it
But the spotter is gonna see a person, or any foreign object for that matter, which is in the bucket. I just don't see it happening and it's not like you're gonna miss a huge helicopter scooping up water, nor would the spotter miss a person at the surface of the water from above. It's just not going to happen. Or it's so unlikely anyway, it's not worth the effort, in my opinion. I've been around a lot of those firefighting operations and they're very good at making sure nothing but water ends up in the bucket.
In many cases they are under time or budget constraints. This is also one of there earlier episodes as well so people were not as eager to help them as they become in later seasons.
Watching older episodes, I get the impression that San Francisco was the mustache capital of the world back then. Are mustaches still fashionable there?
soooooo, rubber tires are going to damage the cement...lets put plywood down which is softer and more useless than rubber or cement...this is soooo stupid. Also...SCOTTY !!!!!
27:25 sugar in the tank will fuck up the fueling system. just because it did nothin in their test does not prove anything. sugar wont dissolve in gas and over time it gets picked up by the fuel pump and clogs the lines and filters. and on fuel injected cars it clogs the injectors if the sugar gets pass the filters. on that tank the fuel line was on top but on some tanks its in the bottom on the middle where the fuel is gravity fed on the system and pump is either on the middle of the fuel system or is a mechanical one in the engine. on more modern cars the pump is in the tank and mounted on the top. i have seen car channels that do better job at testing and explaining these myths than what this TV show did
They shouldve done penny on an efi mightve have better chance to get to valve ports. And i also confirm it works the egg in the radiator ive done it b4 it got me 40kms home 10kms to work in the morning then 15 to the rad shop she ran sweet as and i flog the living fuk out of my cars too!!!
"And then, all of a sudden, nothing happen" sounding like an old Internet memes
Scottie and Kari together😍😍
Tell me about it!
A little odd how many emotions jamie expressed. I think this was before he got his robotic brain. But still I love the old epispdes. 😊
I just watched a later episode and people there went "Wow Jamie really opened up in the later episodes. Probably because he was glad it soon was over" lol
Feels like maybe he was still feeling a bit warmer towards Adam in the early days? Iirc Adam being on the show was Jamie's suggestion so he must have had a good working relationship with him initially. He clearly doesn't like being teased in the ways Adam likes to tease him, and there's the occasional hint that Jamie has a problem with things being hammed up for the camera.
I imagine over time those things grated more and more, causing him to perhaps close off a bit.
@@G1itcher D
Definitely the case. Jamie was the boss of his own well established company that landed a gig with Discovery channel . Initially Adam was brought into the show as a ‘lesser’ cohost that was supposed to bring persona and color into the mix.
As Adam importance rose fast and then he was supposed to be upgraded to be an equal host to Jamie. Jamie had some teething pains because the ‘fun guy’ didn’t land on his feet, running. Adam has circled around ‘this’ on several occasions hinting that this was the case.
I adore Adam to this day but this episode highlight how poorly he handled that task in front of the camera. Way more than half the shots of him is him sniping, complaining, relentlessly petty goofing on Jamie, just to push buttons. They are both not handling this change constructively at all, one might say…but Jamie wasn’t the right man to mentor Adam into his new role while he had a business to run at the same time… and he ain’t the type to no ones surprise.
I would say that Jamie has “towed a consistent line” more than Adam. They both settled into their roles fairly quickly but jeez, Adam doesn’t look the part at all in this episode. It’s quite an eeeech’ watch. 😖
I don't think it's about Adam, he had worked with him before I think. It's about American TV producers. The first few seasons are gold but season 6 to 8 is often poor quality.
Yes I know Jamie don't like Adam but you can work with that.
Ah yes everything exept metric , "a Volkswagen every few seconds "
Typical Yankee move
Always hated this kind of narration. How am I supposed to know how much it is? I mean Volkswagen makes loads of different cars. Even if I can guess which one they mean, I still have no idea how much.
@@d4slaimless I am not in disagreement with you here, but the fact that these analogies obfuscates the measurements may make it so the results are "impossible" to reproduce-- in case there was any foreseeable danger at all that is.
@@NathanaelManson that's not the case though. I mean they would compare the mass of dinosaur with the mass of a track, for example. It is just something typical for shows on Discovery (and some other big TV channels). Comparing some thing with other instead of saying direct value might seem illustrative, but often is quite confusing. And this is something you would hear all the time. And the main reason, I think, you don't need to research for exact measurements to say it. So it is risk free and the easiest way to write the script.
If you say "this thing has a weight of 2200 kg" you need to actually check the value. But you can go the easy way and just say "this thing is massive" or "this thing weighs like a car".
@@d4slaimless We are not in disagreement, even though my answer to your remark may not be as relevant in this case, it's not as if we are talking about making explosives here.
Naturally you would need to know the values for the calculations to be satisfactory and correct. No one is a fool enough to drive their family over a bridge knowing beforehand that the engineer that constructed it did so because he simply imagined or told himself that it "should just about" hold. All i am saying is that the usage of these poor analogies or guesses is that it may allow someone, like a scientist, to explain to laymen roughly how that phenomena works without having to get into technical jargon. That someone, like a chemist, can teach you the process for making bombs, without handing you the direct recipe for its explosive construction. This is my only argument, we can use analogies or comparisons to intentionally obfuscate the actual values. I am not whitewashing what he said.
EDIT: Also, since when has analogies and sketchy comparisons ever been logically satisfactory. Of course they are "often quite confusing" or downright impotent, it is in the nature of the technique.
I've been lucky enough to see Elvis, the most famous Erickson S-64 skycrane of them all, take water from our swimming pool in the backyard of my childhood home in Central Victoria, Australia... It took almost all of it over 5 runs, and dispensed it on the furious bushfire burning just a few kilometres from our house.
It's a truly awesome machine and those pilots have insane skills. I have some pictures of them positioning the massive machine, with barely two metres to spare for the giant rotorblades, in between the two huge ghost gum trees beside the pool and barely a metre to spare for the tail rotor (which they can't actually see) and powerlines on the other side of the fence line. Those pictures ended up on the news and on the front page of the local newspaper, which was pretty cool for a 13yo aircraft nerd to see! 😊
It was a pretty windy day too, but those guys came in like it was nothing and just nailed it first time, every time. It's always awesome to witness pros at their top of their game, operating under real pressure.
And luckily in large part thanks to them, not a single house in our neighborhood (which backed right onto a huge ironbark eucalyptus forest) sustained any damage on that terrible day of widespread bushfires.
Would you have a link to the newspaper (or pictures online) by any chance, would love to see it!
I'm not sure if it'd be online... I doubt it would be, but the newspaper it was on the front page of was called the Maryborough Advertiser and although I can't remember the exact date, it was during the fires we had in the area in the first couple weeks of February 2001.
I still have the paper at my parent's house, I'll find the date when I go over there on Sunday I'll be sure to check if I can find them. I've got a feeling they also ended up in the Ballarat paper called "The Courier" too and they're more likely to have been uploaded to their digital archive I'd dare say. Maybe they were in "The Age" too... Man it's been a long time since I opened that box of memories, so I'd have to check and try digging them up. They were great pictures though, Dad had a pretty good camera and happened to be overseas on business so I got lucky to have the best seat in the house and get the pics myself.
I'll try to check in a couple days and see if I can't find a link for you. It'd be fun to see them again to be honest, was one hell of a memorable day!
We were going through a drought in the area at the time too... They didn't ask if they could have the water, we were out in the yard keeping an eye on the fire when the giant chopper came overhead and the pilots gave us a wave before lowering it neatly between the trees. Then came back another four times before moving on to another neighbour's pool. Without those heroes, pluse the crews on the ground, it's pretty safe to assume our house and the entire neighborhood would have been reduced to ashes.
@@leandervanboven7581 I'll look into it for you and hopefully find them on the interwebs somewhere.
I remember it in the canberra bushfires
@@mechaniclifeaus It's an incredible machine... You don't get an appreciation for how big it is and the incredible skill of the pilots until you see it operating in the (pardon the pun) heat of battle.
I searched everywhere for the pics I took in a digital archive and couldn't find them, I have the newspaper from the day they were published but unfortunately they weren't archived. Shame because I think they're some of the best pics of it in action. Elvis is real legend of Australia's struggle to live in this country of extremes.
Wow, Adam was a real dbag in this one.
He was in a lot of the early episodes 2bh.
Yeah! I didn't remember him being such an asshole man child 😳
Yeah i can see why Jamie didn't really like him
i wanted to mention this too. His character is improving season by season. But in the second season he was a condescending dbag a lot of the time
@@zsoltbocsi7546 Most of these have nothing to do with Adam as a character. Discovery apparently believed no one would watch a Reality show without some kind of "drama" so would tell them to pretend to be at each others throat whenever they could. It stopped once they got feed up with it and told them to cut out that crap.
17:57 Adam Savage when Jamie sneaks up behind him and pulls his pants down in public
1:50 I think we need at least 179 more different angles but make sure she never looks into a camera
Adam really have strong character to lift up the atmosphere. But after more I watch Mythbusters, most likely I like Jamie more.
Yeah, Adam seems to be a narcissist. He always loves the attention when he did something right, but he sure likes to point out when Jamie has made a mistake. Jamie seems a lot more tolerable as a colleague.
@@Matthew-h6e Ah no. But he probably has ADHD.
When I was younger (young teen) and watched mythbusters on TV, I loved Adam. Now, when I watch as a grown adult, I also like Jamie more (although both guys are great~!)
I missed Scotie,she was so great
I miss all of them. 😢
Young Adam Savage with a V hairline was a legend.
Jamie: "My gramma had a car like that"
I didn't know Cadis were made during the bronze age!🤣
20:49 even the narrator lost it xd
It seems like these guys don't just tell the myty, they put it to the test
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15:50. Who'd have thought I could be jealous of a big steel pipe.....
And from 20:17 I'm jealous of Buster!....
Let's not forget that even if the helicopter was able to suck the diver up out of the water , they would turn off the pump as soon as they got the water . It would drop him back down almost immediately .
Those days of Mythbusters when Adam's head was almost as bald as Jamie's!
11:55 Makes me think that there must have been at least one occasion where someone at a movie studio had to run down to the local store to get a banana. Because the scene required one but it got accidentally eaten between takes. Or it was supposed to get eaten but they made so many retakes that they ran out.
i think adam forgot to take his adhd meds 😂
If those gas tank tests prove anything at all, it's how stout those small block Chevy motors actually are... Although the "octane" thing is rather missing the point of what makes higher octane fuel produce more power. I'm probably going to botch this explanation, but it's not that has more energy in it, it's that it's able to be compressed more and therefore can have the ignition timed later in the stroke. Using fuel with too low an octane rating, in an engine that demands high octane fuel, can cause it to ignite before the engine's ignition is timed to spark and the valves are fully closed, which is what's called "knocking."
So that engine wouldn't be able to make any performance gains from a higher octane fuel, assuming the mothballs did in fact raise the octane in the first place, because it's not set up to run a higher octane fuel. Putting a higher octane fuel will make no difference at all, it only works the other way around.
I thought Jamie knew more about engines than that, to be honest.
well, you aren't to far off with your explanation: Higher Octane means the fuel is more knock/self ignition resistant, so it won't self ignite itself at a point where it shouldn't, and while that doesn't automatically make more power, it means that you can run earlier (not later) ignition timing and make more power through that to a point, as well as run a higher compression ratio or if the engine has some sort of forced induction you can run more Boost, which will gain you a good chunk of Power.
Nowadays all engines can sense Self Ignition/Knock and will adjust Ignition timing accordingly, so depending on how the engiens ECU is set up they can gain some pwoer from running for instance 98 Research Octane instead of 95, but an old Carbed V8 like that one definitely won't.
and as a quick fun fact, the fist car that automatically made use of higher octane fuel was the Saab 900 Turbo¨in 1982, it hat a system that could sense Knock and adjusted Boost accordingly, through that the Engineers at Saab could not only enabled the possibility to use lower octane fuel but also meant that it made a good bit more power while using higher octane fuel and meant that they could bump up the compression ratio by quite a bit, making the engine more powerfull and use less fuel in the process.
motor? its electric?
@@joefries365 oh yea i forgot that GM stood for General Engines and that those 2 wheeled enginized vehicles are called Enginecycle, those boats with engines are called Engineboats and Detroit was called Enginecity.
@@joefries365 So now for real, where did the missconception come from that a Motor has to be electric?
what movie is that at 35:11 with the guys and the girl and the broken car? thank you!
Wild youth 1960 or naked youth.
You don't put the whole egg in the radiator because the egg yolk will block the engine block, you just add the egg white.
Scottie was so cute
I'm convinved that Vince Gilligan took inspireation for Walter White from this version of Adam Savage.
The idea is that you put enough in the exhaust to stop the engine running
Think they should've been a bit more thorough with the helicopter fire bucket theory. There are bigger bags available than what they've shown, even if they are rare. Plus the opening has a fair bit of flex to it
But the spotter is gonna see a person, or any foreign object for that matter, which is in the bucket.
I just don't see it happening and it's not like you're gonna miss a huge helicopter scooping up water, nor would the spotter miss a person at the surface of the water from above. It's just not going to happen.
Or it's so unlikely anyway, it's not worth the effort, in my opinion. I've been around a lot of those firefighting operations and they're very good at making sure nothing but water ends up in the bucket.
In many cases they are under time or budget constraints. This is also one of there earlier episodes as well so people were not as eager to help them as they become in later seasons.
Watching older episodes, I get the impression that San Francisco was the mustache capital of the world back then. Are mustaches still fashionable there?
No, the new style today is pooping on the street and breaking into cars. Fads, imiright?
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soooooo, rubber tires are going to damage the cement...lets put plywood down which is softer and more useless than rubber or cement...this is soooo stupid. Also...SCOTTY !!!!!
The plywood spreads out the weight across the board and is cleaner than the wheels. It also doesn't transfer rubber marks if something slips.
Anyone ever figure out what sweater Jesse is wearing? I'd love to have one
Heather always looking fine
I miss Scottie. She was best girl.
20:36 The only time I wished I was Buster.
27:25 sugar in the tank will fuck up the fueling system. just because it did nothin in their test does not prove anything. sugar wont dissolve in gas and over time it gets picked up by the fuel pump and clogs the lines and filters. and on fuel injected cars it clogs the injectors if the sugar gets pass the filters.
on that tank the fuel line was on top but on some tanks its in the bottom on the middle where the fuel is gravity fed on the system and pump is either on the middle of the fuel system or is a mechanical one in the engine. on more modern cars the pump is in the tank and mounted on the top.
i have seen car channels that do better job at testing and explaining these myths than what this TV show did
Yes but have you seen car channels blow a water heater sky high
First appearance of Tori and the infamous bicycle!
Had to rewind the video. Tori was so young
There's some pretty thick tension in the air between Adam and Jamie.
That's because Adam was being a jackass this episode.
They shouldve done penny on an efi mightve have better chance to get to valve ports. And i also confirm it works the egg in the radiator ive done it b4 it got me 40kms home 10kms to work in the morning then 15 to the rad shop she ran sweet as and i flog the living fuk out of my cars too!!!
Working with Adam is like working with a kid, his ADHD would be so hard to deal with
"banana is fully inserted" heard that before
Sorry, but I'm glad they dumped the folklorist.
My child self always misread her title as 'florist' and got super confused.
Mixing bleach and petrol is a no-no. quite noxious.
Now what if you shoot an electric car..
I hate when Adam uses that stupid voice