Cube Mix Plus Copper Heat Sink Mod - Lowers Temps 20 Degrees C!
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- Cube Mix Plus. The Cube Mix Plus gets too hot, here's the fix. Another copper heatsink + thermal pad to lower temps up to 20 degrees C. This tablet is $309 USD with coupon 27fc14 here: www.banggood.com/Cube-Mix-Plus... More info: techtablets.com/cube-mix-plus/
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I finished the mod just now and... with 2 games 95 ºC >> 65 ºC, it's crazy!
The mother of the god or whatever you call it!
Thanks a lot!
Pablo Matias awesome! Can you tell us how you did it? What materials did you use?
For future reference:
1. you can make a circuit discharge by holding the power button AFTER you have disconnected the batteries, this would insure there is no electricity in the tablet while you work on the tablet.
2. You can spread the thermal paste around the chipset with a card (like the one you used to unclip the pins) so you wont have to move anything.
3. As far as i know MX4 is short proof, they not using conductive materials in their MX4.
As good as always. Thanks for publishing this video. This cube is my first Windows tablet. I'm using it only for gaming and I'm really really amazed with the performance of this machine...
The Chinese can produce anything, these mega companies should contract you to do the quality checks and suggest improvements. I would suggest the first one to do it would have a have a huge advantage over the rest :) and get the KiwiChris seal of approval ! cheers
Thanks, this lowered my temps by 40C.
Mine didn't even have a thermal pad between the cpu and heatsink and would go straight to 99 degrees when gaming unless i throttled the cpu.
Now it stays around 60c.
just made the mod, amazing results. >90 degrees down to never more than 70 degrees.
Amazing mod, thanks so much!
Yes, it really goes to show you want a little copper can do! I'm rally happy with the results.
have any of you done any overclocking/ undervolting tests?
Just did this and it works perfectly.
Fantastic video Chris. Informative and to the point
Hello! You helped me a lot, and not only me. Many thanks!
I have used 0.8 mm thick copper heatsink and it works great, 70°C at very long full loads, with clock turboing by itself to great performance.
Cube Mix Plus. The Cube Mix Plus gets too hot, here's the fix. Another copper heatsink + thermal pad to lower temps up to 20 degrees C. This tablet is $309 USD with coupon 27fc14 here: www.banggood.com/Cube-Mix-Plus-128GB-Intel-Kaby-Lake-7Y30-Dual-Core-10_6-Inch-Windows-10-Tablet-PC-p-1109155.html?p=QZ14021624945201505Y More info: techtablets.com/cube-mix-plus/ More info: techtablets.com/cube-mix-plus/
is x5 pro with same processor better at gaming from this cube mix plus
Where do you get the copper and the thermal adhesive? I guess probably not Bunnings? 😂
No not bunnings warehouse or Mitre 10 Mega :) I used eBay for my bits and pieces.
I don't understand what is the rectangle beside CPU. prntscr.com/e4odri
Is it GPU?!
+TechTablets.com kk, I just bought a thermal "set" from China with the copper, 7783 thermal adhesive and some sort of lubricant oil included in the pack. Anyway, I hope the copper is the correct thickness cuz it didn't say.... Fingers crossed
hey! thanks for the video, this makes this tablet pretty appealing for the price. did battery life increase notably after you modded it?
if i get it i might mill small ridges or a grid pattern into the back to give it a larger surface area, and make it more grippy.
great vid Chris, excellent
Just finished mod on my Mix Plus with few changes:
-used thinner layers of thermal paste
-added some thermal paste on top of the center of the original thermal pad and added 0.1mm copper plate on top of that to make sure that whole heating area sticks well to the back
Temps are now about 30ºC lower in high stress :)
You think that if I I use two 0.5mm copper plate it will be the same?
Man you are very smart congrulations thanks for the tutorial you saved my bf4 and my pubg
Good vid I want to do the copper shim for my ps4 hopefully the temp will be much much lower than the stock temp with just the thermal paste
great video, I love these kind of experiments, anyway this can be done on a phone?
Dannyboy It can, passively cooled tablets and notebooks. Plus even mobiles if there is space
Damn, nice job!
Could you show us about its components? Like the "power management ic" , "screen model" and "sound card" , thank you in advanced!
Successfully done. The most difficult part was opening the case, that's all. I use 2 (fortunately unused) identity cards, 1 got broken. Guitar pick didn't do for me, maybe the corner of mine is too rounded. Currently temp is happy at around 50-55, 70-75 after running AnTuTu 3D. All of this while store is updating and browser is downloading. Previously even just browsing around would raise the temp to 80-85 which is not acceptable. I've ordered the Ocube cover, so even if the back becomes hotter, it shouldn't be as noticable.
EDIT: Highest temp when running Geekbench: 80 (y)
EDIT 2: I change the thermal paste from HY880 to NT-H1 and I'm good for another 5 degrees (y)
Hi Chris, I know this video was done long time back. But can you tell me the battery drain when playing battlefield 4? And does thermals have to do anything with fast battery drain?
what about if copper plate will slightly move to any side? do you think its possible?
I'm kinda regretting buying the chuwi 14.1 instead of this now :/
Hi, i bougt same tablet and have same issue/problem. On load 96*C. I watched this and i do not recommend mixing copper and aluminium together. Due to a galvanic corrosion, the place where they touch will get destroyed. Anyone of you did try only silicone tape improvement?
Hello thank you so much for this video it really helps and really good explained.
where is the Intel 615 graphics in this tablet? Can I put thermal pad on it to help?
What if I put thermal pad on the Grey metal that is it on top of the processor covering with 4 screws?
Remove the cpu using bga station and put a hole inside it... there u can find the intel 615
Do you recommend doing this on the Cube iwork10 pro?
I would like some help, I broke the screen of my cube mix plus, and only found to buy the screen of the Cube i7 Stylus. Are the screens compatible?
will you review the zuk z2? ...from lenovo
Can you replace the ram or is that solderd to the board?
Por favor puedes decirme el grosor del disipador de silicona
térmica que pones al final ?, muchas
gracias.
just did this on my newly received mix plus with a 15x15x1mm copper shim. mine now gets to around 82C according to hwinfo64. Maybe because of the smaller shim I used ?? Or used the thermal paste TOO sparingly. Anyhow, still lower temperatures compared to before the mod.
can we replace with new battery after few years?
If you could mod it to be waterproof too it would be a perfect sous vide machine, the ultimate 3 in 1 chinese tablet.
Hi. I am about to buy myself a Cube, to use as a mobile drawing tablet. There is one thing about it I would like to ask you. Can we replace/put more ram to it? Cause 4 gb ram is little too low, and can be annoying.
How thin is the coper plate?
I went the path of least resistance and cut holes in back of case for heat sinks. Screw the extra insulation. The more surface area the better cooling. And the least resistance the faster it cools. Runs 35-37 •c. That copper sheet could be cut into fractal WiFi antenna. Plus it would allow more heat to escape. Think it acts as heat shield. Increasing the insulation factor.
is it possible to put this cpu in a Chuwii Hi12? I want this CPU but I really want a 12" tablet.
Just a quick question :)
Can we use liquid metal compound for cooling here? underneath copper and on top of it?
Liquid metal will corrode the aluminum heatsink
Allright, my cube mix plus is dispatched from gearbest (I wonder how long it'll take to arrive) and I just ordered a 15mmX15mmX1mm copper shim from Banggood... Hopefully this will work as good as in your video!
Btw, Chris, you mentioned hammering the aluminium heatsink... Why's that? Is it that the mod doesn't get too thick and things start pushing at the screen or why?
did the your smaller copper shim worked out? did you also hammerd the heatsink? ty
The mix plus arrived 8 days after ordering. But the material for the mod hasn't arrived yet. But according to chris from techtablets, it shouldn't be necessary to hammer the aluminium heatsink. btw, I now ordered a 20x20x1mm copper shim too... I'll keep you posted when the mod-material arrived and I finished the mod.
Danke, mir ist grad aufgefallen, dass Dein Nickname deutsch ist :D, ich bestelle mir dann auch ein quadratisches 20mm Shim.
Würde mich freuen, wenn Du mich auf den Laufenden halten könntest. Danke und viel glück :)
Hi really interested in how your mod turned out. as i'm planning to do it too
Yeah, me too! Love reading about this stuff. Also because the tablet is on the way :D
this is too advance for my dumb hands
Can you update the memory from 4 to 8gb?
me i have this tablet ..working fine...
just the keyboard button are in english, no greater and smaller sign that we use in html and php...
the pen dosent work correctly on the down side edges of the screen...
i didn't try to open my tablet for such kind of experiment but just i install widnows 10 pro and android 7 at a time;;;both boot correctly
*less number of contacts > low thermal pad thickness > good thermal compound * that's how the priority should be.
I would have just used an expensive thermal pad on the CPU and between the case, I think that would have worked better,
I don't see the point in adding a chunk of copper in between if you are not going to take out the metal covering because you are putting two layers of thermal compound and one layer of metal instead of one thermal pad and it does not seem intuitive, if possible do a comparison between having just a thin thermal pad(plus copper if space left) between metal cover and back cover and also change the thermal pad on the processor
Metal should only be used when you need to fill gap someway
What is the frame rate for csgo with a power increase?
Hey, great video! I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind. Do you recall well enough to estimate the thickness of the original thermal pad that was affixed to the CPU from the factory? I would like to order a larger and much more conductive thermal pad to use between the steel screw plate and the backplate of the device, and as there are several thicknesses available I'd just want to make sure I am ordering at least about the right thickness. Currently I am thinking 1mm shim and 1mm thermal pad.
Secondly, do you have an opinion on using thermal *adhesive* between the copper shim and the screw plate, and using thermal *paste* between the shim and the CPU? I would think that this way, the shim would not be able to move because the screw plate is fixed in place, but the whole assembly (screw plate and shim) would still be able to be removed if need be... Thoughts?
I'm thinking of doing the same way as you wrote. Did bigger, 1mm thermal pad work out well? What thermal adhesive did you use, and do you have comments on thermal conductivity of it? Please update of your progress.
I ended up using a 20x20x1m copper shim with Arctic Silver 5 to the CPU, then a 1mm thermal pad from the copper shim to the internal heat sink(this holds the shim in place), then a 1mm pad from the internal heat sink (cut to the full outline of the internal heatsink) to the backplate. I went from hitting 90c+ in Prime95 to topping out just under 55c.
I bought the Arctic thermal pad (145x145x1mm) and it works very well.
Hi Jacob, Do you cut the Arctic thermal pad (145x145x1mm) to (20x20x1mm) or do you used the full size?
20x20 from the copper shim that is touching the CPU to the heat spreader plate (on the side of the plate that FACES the circuit board), and the full outline of the heat spreader plate to the back casing (opposite the circuit board side of the plate).
Back Casing // Full outline pad // Cube Heat Spreader // 20x20 pad // 20x20 Copper Shim // Arctic Silver 5 // CPU
Thank you for sharing this! So, you have used a 1mm copper shim, on top of that a 1mm thermal pad, then comes the internal heatsink and you also put a big thermal pad in that whole plate to connect with the outer case? If that is correct, wouldn't it be too big and causing the screen to bulge like I have read a lot about?
Can someone help is there any company that can heat sink cube mix plus.
I use quetips to get the excess paste off If i get alittle too much of the chip
i can upgrade the Ram to 8gb ?
Does this mod also improve the battery life?
If your device heats up less, the battery would discharge slowly and you might see some small improvements in battery life.
How thick should the copper plate be?Theres 5 sizes on banggood. Thanks
Ardennes1944 1mm
Two questions:
1. Didn't catch it if you said it. What thickness copper heat sink should I get? I see it ranging from 0.3mm to 1.2mm on Banggood.
2. If I buy this it'll be my first tablet, so not a tablet expert here, but can the RAM memory be increased? The 4gb replaced with 8gb? Since you mentioned the SSD can be replaced, idk what other parts can too. Really liking everything on this tablet, except the 4gb memory thing. I want to get it specifically for drawing, programming, and 3D modeling when I don't feel like sitting at the comp.
Btw guys theres a 20% off coupon now on banggood, so its about 285$ now actually. The tablet alone.
Ram is tablets is almost always soldiered, and open up your table to see how much space you have for a heat sink and get the bigfest one that fits.
I would like to ask if 15x15x0.5mm copper shim would be enough or it has to be 20x20x1mm? Thank you for the reply in advance.
It would be fine, but the results might be a little hotter.
I went and did the mod with the 15x15x0.5mm and it is giving me great results so far. I went from 90°C to 65-70°C. Thank you for the help and for the helpful video too.
I didn't use the thermal pad. I use another copper pad which has the same thickness on the indent. Then i spread a lot of heat sink compound between the aluminum which is screw on the motherboard and the thin copper sheet on the back cover. I got 30 degrees lower when I cool the back cover with a usb fan, while playing games !
crazy idea and good results
rectaginal?
This seems to be bringing down the temperature of the cpu quite well, but my concern now would be that the battery is exposed to much higher temperature now, as the back copper shield overlaped the battery as well, hope it won't explode now ;)
snap ko Actually a good point. I have no idea but I will take a look at it when it arrives
Uhmm no that's not how it works, if the CPU is 55 degrees then the whole board is 55 degrees and not warmer. And besides it handle being next to a cpu being 92 degrees so it will be fine.
As I made my mod, I took a look but I don't think the battery is much effected by the copper plate. I used a copper shim and thermal pads but my decrease in temperature was only 2 degrees. After 30min of gaming, the tablet is still 94 degree. Don't know what to do next
How about using active cooling like the surface pro 4.It would not throttle and not heat up the backing
Would prolly make things pricier.
The backing is fugly anyway, maybe buy a some dbrand cut to size and cover the back.
I can't find the 20mm piece anywhere without buying 10 or more. Why not use 15mm and not risk hitting the resistors?
15mm is fine, I just went 20mm for better results. It's still working just fine on my unit.
Hmm liquid metal?
Iv noticed you are always worried that if the paste gets on the board its going to kill it, its not. Most thermal compounds including mx-2 and mx-4 are not electrically conductive so its fine to get some around the chip. Its always better to use too much than too little.
If you have ever opened up laptops or graphics cards youll note that manufacturers always get paste around the chip and on the board and nothing is ever harmed so as long as the paste you are using doesnt contain metal then its fine.
Yes, it won't cause any shorts. Artic Silver would.
MAKE VIDEO OF COMPLETION OF COOLING ON TECLAST X5 PRO PLEASE
Teclast X5 Pro has good thermals, it doesn't need the mod.
TechTablets.com Chris i would be very thankful if you could tell me if its the same digitizer as i7 book and i7 stylus? mine is broken and im looking for replacement, and only thing i could find is one for i7 stylus. Now i know for sure that it will fit i7 book also, but not so sure about mix plus, since its also different colour. Maybe you saw a serial number on digitizer flex cable? It should go 106005c something.. Again, would really appreciate any info, thanks.
I don't know 100% But I have a good feeling its the exact same one used. I can't check it as mine is in Spain and I'm in New Zealand at the moment.
thank you, i also think its the same, but wanted to be sure. Very interested how this thing will look with black front
Hi Chris, any plans on selling this unit? ^^
imgur.com/icLEIDo
will it be better if you'll add the same 1mm thermal pad to cover more areas?
I'm ganna do this to my galaxy s7.
Edit: I did it yesterday and I saw a 30°F difference in PUBG mobile. In other words it fucking works
3:12 I'm pretty sure it's "grounded" rather than "earthed", in electrical circuits the negative is called ground. I assume it's because you're translating literally from spanish.
Hmm made an error, I do speak more Spanish when in Spain than I do English and sometimes the English word doesn't come to me first...
earthed is UK english, grounded is american. both are fine.
what if i didn't use any thermal paste on the chip and the copper pad
An pham viet It would move around and cause a short. Kill your tablet in no time.
i like the keyboard but the trackpad suck. usable but suck af
i just installed win 10 home N on my cube. i got it in the morning. After i installed win 10. the function key doesn't seem to work anymore. And another thing is, Can u tell me how to disable the chinese loading screen at startup. it's anoying.
They really should start putting heat sinks on
Or just a thermal pad between the heatsink and rear metal housing. They did it on the Cube i7
MAKE VIDEO OF COMPLETION OF COOLING ON TECLAST X5 PRO PLEASE
Teclast X5 Pro has good thermals, it doesn't need the mod.
+TechTablets.com maybe from a manufacturer's point of view, increased internal heat, less contact heat from the back=happy ambiguous customers. Then the lifespan of the device is shortened so they earn more money. (Lel that was dark, probably not the case, just my dangerous thinking,)
KK K yeah or a heatpipe
Meu tableb após traçar a bateria está esquntando toda a carcaça de um jeito que causa queimaduras. Além disso o processador está chegando a 91 graus. Não dá nem pra segurar ele na mão 😢. Já tentei de tudo e sou técnico amador .
They should use a heatpipe like in the Galaxy S8 smartphone
Is the RAM upgradable ?
Sadly it's not.
I know why they don't do that by default. I just did it and the back gets to 55C with 8w TDP (up from 7w). Which is very uncomfortable to the touch. This is while reaching 100C internal... Also, GTA V still kinda lags without mods... Time to go listen to that lowspecgamer guy.
Heatsink are great for any high performace devices, however if the device fall for some reason and the copper pad moves, it could short the device and manufactures do not want to take that risk. An other reason could be to save some pennies on each device wich tranlsates to millions. That is my opinion on this matter.
I blame you.....lol
You use way to much thermalpaste, a thinner layer would give you even better temps
I use the same amount of thermal paste he used on my rigs. That is way too much for a little copper pad.
You should be wearing gloves man. The oils on your fingers are definitely reducing efficiency on any surface you touch. You dont realize how much oil is on your fingers but it is a lot.
holy fucking shit it can play battlefield 4 at 720p... WHAT?!?!?!?!?!? and at 70C....holy shit... I was doing research for a tablet because I want to play some platformers, and* I was scared this tablets can't do it...but holy shiiit!!!!!!!!
Just make sure you do this thermal mod if you plan to game.