Snow being handsome and hot is like a reverse femme-fatale, mainly to subvert the whole “being ugly means being evil” and “being attractive means being good” trope. Femme fatale is about a beautiful seductive woman using her charm to manipulate men into doing what she wants (most of the time it’s about evil things). Snow is a handsome man using his charm to manipulate people (especially the audience) to drop their guards and believe that because of his beautiful body and face, there must still be a good in him, even though he’s evil af. It’s like a passive aggressive response from the writer and director to those dark romance genre like 50 Shades, 365 Days. You know, the whole criticism that “If Christian Grey was ugly and poor, the books would be labeled as horror, not romance”.
@@brad6546 What I meant is that those characters in 365 days/ 50 shades did evil things but were portrayed as good guys simply because they’re rich and handsome. If they’re poor and ugly, people would consider them horrifying. Now, in case of Snow, he’s handsome but the book made sure to portray what he did as evil things as it was. And he’s being handsome mainly to challenge the audience to overcome their pretty privilege bias “because he’s attractive that means he’s a good guy” thing.
I’m so disappointed that the large majority of videos about the hunger games never bring up its relevance to current events.. as if it’s just far off fiction. Thank you for actually speaking up
Like district 11 represents racism and them being treated hsrsjer than other districts or at least in the books thsts wat i got not far off from our reality and annoying tiktok creators not tslking about that and so many more deep dives and topics and similarites of wat the world the poor is experiencing in america esp bs the rich etc
Some critics of the movie said that it was an stretch that it took the organizers of the Hunger Games 10 years to realize that a likable and good-looking contestant would give them more rating, but if you think about it, before Snow the people from the Capitol saw the games as a punishment/display of strenght first and as a TV show second. The movie is about how in a deshumanizing society empathy and cruelty aren't as opposite as they should be, they both become two face of a coin named "espectacle"; its about how an autoritarian regime does the jump from "we're cruel because its a practical way to mantain our power" to "we're cruel because cruelty is profitable". Snow feels empathy for a tribute and instead of taking it as a call to change the system that inevitably leads to the tribute's death, he sees empathy as the wining card, the secret weapon that will facilitate his rise to power
I don’t think he was ever a rebel, I just think he was selfish. He didn’t cheat on the HG to save a human being or because he was against the concept of it. He cheated to be a Victor and to win money.
I think he bends the law when it suits him! Tempted to say he wanted money cause he felt bad for Tigris and his grandma. Or when he wanted to briefly run away w Lucy and live in the woods or whatever. I’d agree he’s not a rebel in a true sense of it like trying to be free from oppression he’s just rebellious to escape consequences and for self gain.
no he actually cheated to save her, at that point in the book he genuinely cared about her well being and he was confient he could win the Plinth prize even without winning the games but yes he was far from a rebel
I don’t understand people’s criticism of the movie saying there are too many musical numbers…like hello??? Ballad is literally part of the movie’s title.
I have to admit I cringed a little bit when Lucy Gray started singing at the reaping (and also when they throw the snakes into the arena) because they just seems like a very out of place moment to just break into song, but most the songs are bangers tbh
I also like they nuanced take on disability. You have Bobbin, who was a pretty strong tribute. And then you have Wovey, who embodies naivity and vulnerability. I can see my sister saying, "Can we go home now?"
actually interesting when you said "we've got pigeons" because we domesticated them for our purposes and then dropped them as they became obsolete and now they've become a plague to us when we made them become dependent on and close to us, kinda similar to the jabberjay/mockingjay thing. our own creation turns threatening
16:20 - I actually liked how unexpected the ending felt, when his true colors are finally revealed, to the audience as well as to himself. As someone who read the book again right before I watched the movie, it was great going into the theater knowing his inner thoughts and why he did what he did. But I almost wish I could have gone in with no prior knowledge. Even with my past knowledge, I had to keep reminding myself, "he's not the good guy, don't fall for his act". It was hard not to root for him. The whole point of his character is that he is so attractive and charming, and you want to believe that he's the good guy, but he's not. We know who he becomes by the time of the Hunger Games. And if Lucy Gray Baird is the songbird, then Coriolanus Snow is the snake.
I watched the movie first, and my goodness it did so good with everything, I liked snow almost but not in the end. Then I read the book and had his inner thoughts, he wasn't good. I watched the movie yet again and each moment the actor does so well to show how snow is feeling, you can see the way he chooses himself every time.
ngl I tried to read the book a few weeks before the movie came out but I completely failed and only got to about halfway because I was so bored. After seeing the movie, I DEVOURED the rest of the book so I could understand Snow's character more after seeing what happens in the movie. Have never had that happen before. I think either one alone is underwhelming but both the book and the movie together = INCREDIBLE. I've never experienced having two separate media that are the same story (with the movie actually being very faithful to the events of the book) that somehow complement each other so well. I felt that the movie actually made the material interesting and engaging in a way that the book fails to do. However, the movie on its own lacks Snow's inner monologue which can only be understood from the book. I would quite honestly recommend people follow what I did and read some of the book first, watch the movie, and then read the rest of the book.
I had the same experience except I watched the movie first and then started reading the book for the first time afterwards. I honestly think that the movie really helped me be as invested as I was while reading the book, It was like watching the extended cut of the movie with extra scenes and more insight to the characters. I love the movie (I work at a theater so I went to watch it like 7 times lol) but lowkey I appreciate the book so much more because of the hidden story they got to tell. I wish there was a way to portray snows inner monologue/small callbacks/references in movie form without making it boring to consume. Either way I love how the movie turned out I just hope the producers release the 4 hour extended version because I need more Tom Blythe as snow ❤
ah honestly that didnt happen for me but the way the movie has helped me visualize the book so much better just makes it much more fun to read. i can hear lucy gray sing now.
happy that the movie let you connect w the source material and enjoy it :) honestly when I first read the book I don’t think I really READ it but now I appreciate it a lot more
I think you also missed the fact that the capitol keeps referring to any sort of oppression against these unfair conditions (the games) as acts of terror
Point of note After Lucy Gray, music was banned by district 12's new commander (who replaces Hoff shortly after Snow returns to the Capital) who said it caused trouble The reason singing doen't occur again, it is because music was banned So Katniss sings on her own, which she inherrited and learned from her father whose descended from Lucy Gray.
I like the books more cause I sympathise with Snow too much in the movie, thinking I would do the same thing for self preservation. He seemed really redeemable and just insane cause of the things that happened to him. If only they show Snow living with Sejanus' parents, that would've disgusted me a lot more, or maybe I'm just easily manipulated by his charms. Who knows? 🤷♂️
Oh my god him giving them his stuff then leeching off their money for YEARS. I do think Tom is good at making him creepy in the movie, like act by act you see him shift and in act 3 you come to see him closer in character to the ‘President Snow’ that we know.
The funny thing is that snow is so close to getting it. Like he sees the horrors of Dr. Gaul’s experiments on people, he himself gets into the arena and experiences the horrors of the games (for like less than an hour but still), and he’s surrounded by good people who are against the capital (Sejanus, Tigris, and Lucy Gray) but it’s all overshadowed by his superiority complex and his view on humanity. He thinks he is the best humanity has to offer because he’s capital while also believing that the capital control is needed because humanity is “barbaric” without it (similar to how Dr. Gaul believes that the arena shows “humanity undressed”).
Yeah exactly Lucy believes there’s goodness in everyone but Snow ultimately doesn’t choose that along the way but self preservation which turns him into who he becomes
I’ll have to come back to the comments section when there are more comments, but I did want to say that I appreciate your different perspective on the movie. I was slightly taken aback by it, considering I didn’t read the book. Even after, those feelings were just being justified as a lot of reviews focused more on the drawbacks of the film, so it was nice to see it in a new light
other unintended parallels: the 75th hunger games was when katniss shot her arrow and destroyed the arena shutting the hunger games down and essentially catapulting the revolution forward (cause it was always ongoing it just wasn’t wildly as successful until they had a symbol to rally behind i think), ultimately winning the districts their liberation after overthrowing the capitol. it’s has been 75 years since the Nakba and Palestine and Palestinians have never before had such an outpouring of international solidarity from a significant majority of the global community till now also the hunger games was literally inspired by the Iraq War and US involvement in it
I agree with you, I don't get how the ending could be unexpected. I mean, we factually know that we will turn in to a dictator and he has demonstrated throughout the movie how self-serving his actions are, so to me, it was so obvious that he would kill Sejeanus and Lucy Gray at the end...
Honestly I could see all the seeds for his maliciuosness in the movie from the very start, and I haven't read the book. I do think that at least part of the audience wasn't paying attention, which is very telling. His words and actions, from the get go, were so obviously selfish and disturbing, that what amazes me is that a lot of people did not notice or somehow found him sympathetic. You CAN have some empathy for him, of course, and even hope that he will wake up, but it is so blatantly obvious that he does not have good or altruistic intentions. Ever. AND we even had other people like Tigris and Sejanus to compare and contrast him with. From the beginning, he resonated more with Dr. Gaul and she with him. That...wasn't a sign for you? When he suggested to make a spectacle of the tributes...that wasn't a sign for you? When he played into the racist sh*t about people in the districts in like scene 3...that wasn't a sign for you? When he insulted Sejanus (his "friend") in the FIRST ACT for speaking up about the games and was always condescending to him...that wasn't a sign for you? When his classmate died and he carried on with an assignment for the games as if nothing had happened...that wasn't a sign for you? His SELECTIVE interest for Lucy Gray and disregard for every other tribute...wasn't a sign for you? And even when he displayed unnecessary cruelty to Bobbin in the arena (no, what he did was not the only thing he could do to survive) and said he felt powerful for doing it...that wasn't a sign for you? I mean, damn. To me, the fact that some people got distracted or manipulated by his looks, charm, weaponization of "empathy", his so called "romance" with Lucy Gray or his way of justifying himself only adds irony and layers to the movie. If you need someone's internal monologue or some kind of stereotypical, dripping, obvious EVIL to see reprehensible actions, then...f**k. It is so scary how we can overlook things.
SO TRUE!! I haven't read the book before I went to see the movie and I LOVED it, as it was fascinating to see how such an evil character started out. I come out of the cinema and realise there were so many people who didn't like it, were bored by it, was taken aback that Snow turned into "the villain"... like??? It goes to show how most people are so blinded by attention-grabbing action and flashy good looks. All the people empathising, defending and simping over Snow is just proving this book's/movie's point. If Tom Blythe wasn't Tom Blythe then suspicions about his intentions would've been a given from the start.
Great video! I really want to watch the movie now, maybe i will have time to do so soon. Thank you for your effort you put into the video. I think a lot of people either forget or never learned that dystopian fiction is inherently about the present. It is never about a hypothetical future. George Orwell did not "predict" anything, he just saw things that were happening in his current day and exaggerated them so much that a reader HAD to notice them. Like, the red scare, control of citizens, propaganda for a war, aggressive nationalism.... And it is the same with the hunger games. The books are so good because they are ACTUALLY WELL CONCEIVED dystopian literature - not like most of the knock-offs, which create bascially a fantastical world without having anything to say about the real world. Suzanne Collins massively critisises the way media dehumanises people, how the rich leech off the poor, amorality of entertainment industry and much more. She, as an author, actually has something to say, and she say it with the help of metaphors and allegories. It annoys me so much when people read dystopian literature and either call it a "warning for the future", or just simple fiction without anything to say. So, thank you for taking the time and commenting on the paralels between real world and fiction!
Loved your chaotic energ that bought plenty of jokes while couching it with plenty of insightful analysis, much of which challenges preconcieved notions and subconscious biases
i remember reading the things they carried in my high school english class and it was all well and good, but it kind of made me think about how detached it is when children are learning or talking about these things in school. it's exactly like that debate scene, and i wonder sometimes if the people i used to know who were involved in model un or whatever are actually really aware of what our country has done or if it's just another one of these fun workshop things that doesn't have relation to real life also a good distraction would be when you're trying to do work but your pet comes in or when you're trying to focus on cleaning something but your friend calls
i read the orginal trilogy 10 years ago. i have never seen the movies. yet, i am 2 weeks into a Hunger Games youtube rabbit hole that i don't regret and this was the best vid yet.
In the movie I think Snow snitched on Sejanus not to just further his own goals because in his eyes he saw it as Sejanus betraying, because he knew him and his family would be captured by the Capitol, and in his eye he saw Sejanus helping the district woman as betraying him, so he justified snitching on Sejanus by telling himself that Sejanus would have killed me so it's fine, but I do think that Snow cared abt Sejanus because he does blame Sejanus's death on himself bc in the end of the movie he says he killed three people. But idk you guys tell me what u think
My average watch time says differently haha BUT I feel like longer ones give me a bit more breathing room to cover topics. (Although I alwaaaays regret not putting more whenever I upload so it’s like I need to find a way to be detailed yet succinct!) Ty for watching ❤️
One thing that i loved about the film and book Was the discussion between Snow and Gaul about power We get to see from Gaul the influence she would have on Snow as his mentor But Snow takes the lesson well... After this he revirlaized the games He made everything about building the tributes into celrbity idols So everyone makes it to the capital alive, everyone has food and medical coverage Because having less or sick tributes is not good for ratings or betting He also changed it so previous tribute winners would mentor the new tributes To prevent capital citezens getting emotionally attached or compromised by a tribute like Snow did with Gray... He also created the victor houses in each district, so Victors would be ostracied from their districts and the people Living in laps of luxury compared to the rest hoping it would make then hated and despised by their own districts to prevent victors from gaining a lot of public support in the districts He wanted them to be vlauable in the capital only as athletes of choice But powerless and distrusted in the disricts to prevent them uniting an uprising. Also as for sympathizing Snow... You made the best point...every time snow is given a choice between helping Lucy for doing the right thing or doing it for some reward The movie and book made it so there never was one choice. Even after Highbottom says he qill block the prize from Snow Gaul tells him she will talk to Straebo Plinth (Saganius's father) if he saves the son and he might still get the prize... Everytime he does something the book/film makes sure we know there is another factor open to him. He always chose the path that wuld benfit him, but he was able to use the "for the right thing" as justification to himself and others Till the end, where he no longer cares about justifying himself beyond his own control. Brillaint.
Thank you for doing the important work of 4D research and bringing to light all the butt-based names. 🙏This was a funny and thoughtful ANALysis. ✨ in the lawn was by Snow's dad.🦉📖 For real though, nice parallels between all the things. Also. Something I noticed that was more prominent in the book but still alluded to in the movies was that Coriolanus had a good singing voice, too. Lucy Gray's singing was from a place of feeling, connection and expression, but Coriolanus' singing was controlled, technical, and was used only when it served a concrete purpose (when asked to perform the anthem as a patriotic demonstration). The different perceptions and applications of music definitely goes into the whole power of symbolism.
This is a much better analysis of the hungers game reflection of current american imperialism, and by proxy, Israels colonization of palestine. It does annoy me how badly hollywood and the reviews crave to depolitize this franchise, while it being an obvious thing since it would inherently be against Hollywood's interest as an American war tool, but to see the audience over and over fall for it is sad. I remember my teacher allowing us to do a book review of the saga in our montessori monthly book discussion but only to prompt us to discuss its depiction of the media as a political tool, and the dehumanization of districters and dissonance between those in the capitol and everyone outside the imperial core, and how desensitized they were to see their own districts send children to die, and how its all what we currently consumed ourselves, including th3 fancy celebrity weddings and movies such as THG, all this in 6TH GRADE, so its always annoyed me how much adult fans still discuss this as a complete fantasy setting, instead of a heavy reflection of our political climate
sometimes, it’s also simply almost impossible to make change… some of us have to live through war and dictatorships in this world (they would know more about how real the Hunger Games can be)
thank you so much Divya! Love your videos as usual and this one was especially powerful, thank you for taking the time to draw meaningful connections between the film and current politics, and raising awareness for important issues in the process. and I think a video on dystopian set design would be a great video too :)
my feelings on the movie…. it’s like. sometimes with adaptations it’s clear the filmmakers are simply trying to churn out as near a replica to the book as possible without regard to the translation of the actual message, whereas others take the time and effort to adapt the literature into a film that is faithful to the heart/soul/message even if not a 1-to-1 recreation of the events. unfortunately i found this movie to be the former. it wasn’t bad, per se, but it was all spectacle and mindless recreation of plot. i didn’t get any of the thought provoking philosophies of the book, and they failed spectacularly in translating snows character. tbf it is tricky to turn a first person narrative into a screenplay, especially of a character as deeply 2 faced as snow. but that’s why changes have to be made, and dialogue or expressions added to prod at the depths of his character. idk as a movie it was fine. as an adaptation it fell flat.
thank you!! i dont understand people saying snow turned evil suddenly in the movie. even tho i didnt read the book i could tell there was something off with him from the beginning
1:55 i totally feel that lol, i never finished the book cuz i must’ve gotten bored in the beginning or just got distracted and never finished it, but after watching the movie i absolutely need to read this now
Love this video! A lot of ppl seem to be more wrapped up in the personal story of Snow and Lucy Gray but to me, the best parts of the book is piecing together how the Hunger Games became the Games we’re introduced to in the trilogy.
I’m currently reading and the movie should have only followed part 1 and 2 and part 3 should have been another movie so we could see his life as a peacekeeper and at least listened to the full hanging tree song and it’s true meaning And fully made their romance more apparent
it's interesting that as of current day(12/12/2023) We have a book focused on the capital, 3 from the lowest district, thus we might get something from one of the Career Districts (1,2,4) who knows.
@@JustanotherTH-camr771 you do realize that oppression leads to violent resistance. did you expect palestinians to lay down and die? it’s ironic that you’re commenting this on a video about the hunger games. you realize that they resisted violently in the book as well, but i’m sure you wouldn’t say “there is no right side” in the context of the districts rebelling against the capitol.
I loved this deep dive! I dunno if I'm the minority because this book captured my interest so well, and I know myself enough to know that even without watching the movie first, I would've felt the same. People have criticised the book or Snow being bland, or making everything around him seem bland. But I was so fascinated by his strategic analysis of others and frankly delusional thoughts, I genuinely don't understand why people aren't also interested. Though I agree the movie being paired with the book is a fantastic decision, and it may be why that's the direction Suzanne chose to head in for Sunrise on the Reaping!
I remember the first review of the book of yours really threw me off. I was like "girl, what are you talking about". Weirdly, I have the same reaction to your review of the movie. I was severely disappointed by it, I find it very shallow, not truthful to who Snow is as a character. He seems like a poor, broken boy, when he's a misogynistic, sociopathic fascist. Rachel was the highlight of the movie to me
I agree my initial reading of the book wasn’t great lmao many factors played in headspace/ time it took to read etc. I just missed the point and at the time it didn’t speak to me as much. Abt the Snow character thing. Ngl I’m not sure how you got the reading that I feel he is just poor and broken tbh! I felt i spoke in this about him showing selfish narcissism from the start of the movie and quotes of him showing possessive/cruel to counteract people who think him flipping out on Lucy at the end was ‘unexpected’. I do think the book is more obvious about this but the movie was quite clear in his portrayal of the character. Was it not explicit enough?
I agree with most of what you said HOWEVER panem is not a capitalist country. There's no corporations or private market. It's all owned by the government. It's based more on the government in Orwell's books and ancient rome.
@itsdivyag thanks for clarification :) i just wanted to make sure cuz most people keep trying to say these books are about capitalist America when they're not
Technically it didn't used to be The plinths for example made their fortune by moving their arms company from district 2 to the capital and then sold weapons to the Capital which helped them win against the first uprising. It is why the Plinths are so powerful and rich.
I just did like an english essay on this as one of my texts and i hate that i didnt watch this sooner. Tigriss' clothes are pink like a muted blood???? Like sorryy???? My teacher would actually love you lmao
Suzanne Collins LOVES to give us little breadcrumbs that lead to reality. Like the WHOLE story for example. It mirrors our current state of society and reality. We live in Panem. What does the phrase panem et circenses mean? : bread and circuses : sustenance and entertainment provided by government to appease public discontent.
Is any human can be a monster.. Have you read the book that's called," ordinary men?" Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland People always talk about humanizing monsters, but all monsters are human and that's the scary part.
Talk about being close to this being a reality. My daughter and i walked out of the theater and she hit the floor just trying to catch herself because she is convinced its gonna be real within 5 years.
not the bollywood singing ... i laughed really hard they do be like that tho. i do agree with your assesment that they should have put the after affects of clemmensia's bite in the movie i very dissapointed that in book was very viceral imagery and i think it would have bolstered gauls viciousness? in a sense. in the books Corio is innately terrified of that woman for a reason and while Viola Davis' performanced was stunning , it still didnt convey to me fully why she is so terrifyign yknow. also like this movie did not have any blood like even the first hunger games movie showed blood , where was it like when arache's throat got slit yeah i couldnt see anything what. this movie is rated M here why are you shying away . it felt sanitised in that way, taking away the realism of it and distancing the audience away from the horrors . but thats also a complaint with the main movies as well so.
its really funny that one of people's concerns is that the movie makes snow sympathetic bc i rememebr that was one of the fears/criticsm when the BOOK came out. although i get why its a movie and movies have a history of downplaying stuff ... anywya im gonna watch the rest of the video
i love how you brought up the real world implications especially what if what is happening in gaza . it think its important to have these types of conversations as it may reveal to people, aspects of human kind that they may not choose to see in real life, but are now able to understand and draw parallels to because of these associations. hats off divya . also love the analysis portions of your video they are my favourite parts
Well, I thought that this is produced by a big budget studio who is making this prequel for capitalistic revenue, and entertainment, rather than actually spreading a good message, while actual tragedy is happening in the world.
This movie was super relevant. In the end Snow said he was in the hunger games when he was in district 12. Shows that there really aren’t many fair, good people. Imagine how alone he was after his lover tried to kill him and then vanished. That was poisonous to the soul.
Main reason why I take the Hunger Games more seriously than Squid Games, mainly cause no one tried making a actual game show based on the Hunger Games like Netflix did with Squid Games. Sorry you ruined the entire show when someone decided to greenlit a actual game show.
Not to mention how poor the conditions where for the contestants 9 hours in freezing cold temp. Also the fact that the producers lied eliminating some contestants unfairly while their influencers who were preselected to go to the next round.
Snow being handsome and hot is like a reverse femme-fatale, mainly to subvert the whole “being ugly means being evil” and “being attractive means being good” trope.
Femme fatale is about a beautiful seductive woman using her charm to manipulate men into doing what she wants (most of the time it’s about evil things).
Snow is a handsome man using his charm to manipulate people (especially the audience) to drop their guards and believe that because of his beautiful body and face, there must still be a good in him, even though he’s evil af. It’s like a passive aggressive response from the writer and director to those dark romance genre like 50 Shades, 365 Days. You know, the whole criticism that “If Christian Grey was ugly and poor, the books would be labeled as horror, not romance”.
Can you explain the last part? I'm smacked it's not computing
@@brad6546 What I meant is that those characters in 365 days/ 50 shades did evil things but were portrayed as good guys simply because they’re rich and handsome. If they’re poor and ugly, people would consider them horrifying.
Now, in case of Snow, he’s handsome but the book made sure to portray what he did as evil things as it was. And he’s being handsome mainly to challenge the audience to overcome their pretty privilege bias “because he’s attractive that means he’s a good guy” thing.
Also Twilight, After, Beautiful Disaster and other romanticised young adult toxic relationships.
I’m so disappointed that the large majority of videos about the hunger games never bring up its relevance to current events.. as if it’s just far off fiction. Thank you for actually speaking up
Literally
Like district 11 represents racism and them being treated hsrsjer than other districts or at least in the books thsts wat i got not far off from our reality and annoying tiktok creators not tslking about that and so many more deep dives and topics and similarites of wat the world the poor is experiencing in america esp bs the rich etc
Yes!!!!!
remember that there will never be a perfect society, chiliasm is a heresy
I’m at like a minute into this video right now. just marathoned the movies, it’s literally Israel-Palestine.
Some critics of the movie said that it was an stretch that it took the organizers of the Hunger Games 10 years to realize that a likable and good-looking contestant would give them more rating, but if you think about it, before Snow the people from the Capitol saw the games as a punishment/display of strenght first and as a TV show second. The movie is about how in a deshumanizing society empathy and cruelty aren't as opposite as they should be, they both become two face of a coin named "espectacle"; its about how an autoritarian regime does the jump from "we're cruel because its a practical way to mantain our power" to "we're cruel because cruelty is profitable". Snow feels empathy for a tribute and instead of taking it as a call to change the system that inevitably leads to the tribute's death, he sees empathy as the wining card, the secret weapon that will facilitate his rise to power
Yeah I honestly was surprised it happened so soon. 10 years is nothing.
How did it take reading this comment to make me realise the name philosophy of President Coin
Also Highbottom literally tells Snow he did everything he could to kill the games
To make them not a spectacle hoping they would die off.
Uhhh
I don’t think he was ever a rebel, I just think he was selfish. He didn’t cheat on the HG to save a human being or because he was against the concept of it. He cheated to be a Victor and to win money.
He could have been a rebel, but he values control over everything else
I think he bends the law when it suits him! Tempted to say he wanted money cause he felt bad for Tigris and his grandma. Or when he wanted to briefly run away w Lucy and live in the woods or whatever. I’d agree he’s not a rebel in a true sense of it like trying to be free from oppression he’s just rebellious to escape consequences and for self gain.
I think he wanted to save Lucy since he wanted to be with her.
no he actually cheated to save her, at that point in the book he genuinely cared about her well being and he was confient he could win the Plinth prize even without winning the games
but yes he was far from a rebel
I don’t understand people’s criticism of the movie saying there are too many musical numbers…like hello??? Ballad is literally part of the movie’s title.
it’s nice to have a tune to read Suzanne’s words to
I have to admit I cringed a little bit when Lucy Gray started singing at the reaping (and also when they throw the snakes into the arena) because they just seems like a very out of place moment to just break into song, but most the songs are bangers tbh
It’s because musicals embarrass people. It’s like someone reaching out to your soul. People feel more comfortable with violence and seggs.
Well in regards to our culture's ongoing discussions re: media literacy, I think it's a stretch to think most people even know what "ballad" means
@@nahicoruawell, to Lucy-Gray, singing is a very important form of expression, be that at the reaping, or just, intimately, serenading Coriolanus.
I also like they nuanced take on disability. You have Bobbin, who was a pretty strong tribute. And then you have Wovey, who embodies naivity and vulnerability. I can see my sister saying, "Can we go home now?"
Oh god that bit in the film hurt
I also agree i still get sad when they decided to not include Peetas leg loss
actually interesting when you said "we've got pigeons" because we domesticated them for our purposes and then dropped them as they became obsolete and now they've become a plague to us when we made them become dependent on and close to us, kinda similar to the jabberjay/mockingjay thing. our own creation turns threatening
loved your analysis!
Pigeons are not domesticated; you are referring to doves.
16:20 - I actually liked how unexpected the ending felt, when his true colors are finally revealed, to the audience as well as to himself. As someone who read the book again right before I watched the movie, it was great going into the theater knowing his inner thoughts and why he did what he did. But I almost wish I could have gone in with no prior knowledge. Even with my past knowledge, I had to keep reminding myself, "he's not the good guy, don't fall for his act". It was hard not to root for him. The whole point of his character is that he is so attractive and charming, and you want to believe that he's the good guy, but he's not. We know who he becomes by the time of the Hunger Games. And if Lucy Gray Baird is the songbird, then Coriolanus Snow is the snake.
I watched the movie first, and my goodness it did so good with everything, I liked snow almost but not in the end. Then I read the book and had his inner thoughts, he wasn't good. I watched the movie yet again and each moment the actor does so well to show how snow is feeling, you can see the way he chooses himself every time.
>Coriolanus Snow is the snake
Oh, wait. That's why his favourite weapon is a poison. That's some neat writing there.
The first thought I had was how similar this feels to our current reality and the reason why the movie continues to haunt me over a week later
ngl I tried to read the book a few weeks before the movie came out but I completely failed and only got to about halfway because I was so bored. After seeing the movie, I DEVOURED the rest of the book so I could understand Snow's character more after seeing what happens in the movie. Have never had that happen before. I think either one alone is underwhelming but both the book and the movie together = INCREDIBLE. I've never experienced having two separate media that are the same story (with the movie actually being very faithful to the events of the book) that somehow complement each other so well. I felt that the movie actually made the material interesting and engaging in a way that the book fails to do. However, the movie on its own lacks Snow's inner monologue which can only be understood from the book. I would quite honestly recommend people follow what I did and read some of the book first, watch the movie, and then read the rest of the book.
Holy hell I’m doing that right now. I thought I was weird but glad to know I have others having the same issue with the book.
I had the same experience except I watched the movie first and then started reading the book for the first time afterwards. I honestly think that the movie really helped me be as invested as I was while reading the book, It was like watching the extended cut of the movie with extra scenes and more insight to the characters. I love the movie (I work at a theater so I went to watch it like 7 times lol) but lowkey I appreciate the book so much more because of the hidden story they got to tell. I wish there was a way to portray snows inner monologue/small callbacks/references in movie form without making it boring to consume. Either way I love how the movie turned out I just hope the producers release the 4 hour extended version because I need more Tom Blythe as snow ❤
ah honestly that didnt happen for me but the way the movie has helped me visualize the book so much better just makes it much more fun to read. i can hear lucy gray sing now.
happy that the movie let you connect w the source material and enjoy it :) honestly when I first read the book I don’t think I really READ it but now I appreciate it a lot more
I think that's a very honest and accurate expression of how they relate to each other
So glad that my obsession with this series has allowed me to discover all of these new amazing channels on YT 😂
I think you also missed the fact that the capitol keeps referring to any sort of oppression against these unfair conditions (the games) as acts of terror
Point of note
After Lucy Gray, music was banned by district 12's new commander (who replaces Hoff shortly after Snow returns to the Capital) who said it caused trouble
The reason singing doen't occur again, it is because music was banned
So Katniss sings on her own, which she inherrited and learned from her father whose descended from Lucy Gray.
I like the books more cause I sympathise with Snow too much in the movie, thinking I would do the same thing for self preservation. He seemed really redeemable and just insane cause of the things that happened to him. If only they show Snow living with Sejanus' parents, that would've disgusted me a lot more, or maybe I'm just easily manipulated by his charms. Who knows? 🤷♂️
Oh my god him giving them his stuff then leeching off their money for YEARS. I do think Tom is good at making him creepy in the movie, like act by act you see him shift and in act 3 you come to see him closer in character to the ‘President Snow’ that we know.
The funny thing is that snow is so close to getting it. Like he sees the horrors of Dr. Gaul’s experiments on people, he himself gets into the arena and experiences the horrors of the games (for like less than an hour but still), and he’s surrounded by good people who are against the capital (Sejanus, Tigris, and Lucy Gray) but it’s all overshadowed by his superiority complex and his view on humanity. He thinks he is the best humanity has to offer because he’s capital while also believing that the capital control is needed because humanity is “barbaric” without it (similar to how Dr. Gaul believes that the arena shows “humanity undressed”).
Yeah exactly Lucy believes there’s goodness in everyone but Snow ultimately doesn’t choose that along the way but self preservation which turns him into who he becomes
I’ll have to come back to the comments section when there are more comments, but I did want to say that I appreciate your different perspective on the movie. I was slightly taken aback by it, considering I didn’t read the book. Even after, those feelings were just being justified as a lot of reviews focused more on the drawbacks of the film, so it was nice to see it in a new light
I honestly couldnt help but notice SO many parallels between this movie and the massacre in Palestine
from the land to the sea 🍉🇵🇸
I think it's 'from the river to the sea" but yes free Palestine!@@angel127_
@@laceisaverb LOL oops i was half asleep when i wrote that 😭 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 from the river to the sea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
other unintended parallels:
the 75th hunger games was when katniss shot her arrow and destroyed the arena shutting the hunger games down and essentially catapulting the revolution forward (cause it was always ongoing it just wasn’t wildly as successful until they had a symbol to rally behind i think), ultimately winning the districts their liberation after overthrowing the capitol.
it’s has been 75 years since the Nakba and Palestine and Palestinians have never before had such an outpouring of international solidarity from a significant majority of the global community till now
also the hunger games was literally inspired by the Iraq War and US involvement in it
free Palestine always
I agree with you, I don't get how the ending could be unexpected. I mean, we factually know that we will turn in to a dictator and he has demonstrated throughout the movie how self-serving his actions are, so to me, it was so obvious that he would kill Sejeanus and Lucy Gray at the end...
Honestly I could see all the seeds for his maliciuosness in the movie from the very start, and I haven't read the book. I do think that at least part of the audience wasn't paying attention, which is very telling. His words and actions, from the get go, were so obviously selfish and disturbing, that what amazes me is that a lot of people did not notice or somehow found him sympathetic. You CAN have some empathy for him, of course, and even hope that he will wake up, but it is so blatantly obvious that he does not have good or altruistic intentions. Ever. AND we even had other people like Tigris and Sejanus to compare and contrast him with. From the beginning, he resonated more with Dr. Gaul and she with him. That...wasn't a sign for you? When he suggested to make a spectacle of the tributes...that wasn't a sign for you? When he played into the racist sh*t about people in the districts in like scene 3...that wasn't a sign for you? When he insulted Sejanus (his "friend") in the FIRST ACT for speaking up about the games and was always condescending to him...that wasn't a sign for you? When his classmate died and he carried on with an assignment for the games as if nothing had happened...that wasn't a sign for you? His SELECTIVE interest for Lucy Gray and disregard for every other tribute...wasn't a sign for you? And even when he displayed unnecessary cruelty to Bobbin in the arena (no, what he did was not the only thing he could do to survive) and said he felt powerful for doing it...that wasn't a sign for you? I mean, damn. To me, the fact that some people got distracted or manipulated by his looks, charm, weaponization of "empathy", his so called "romance" with Lucy Gray or his way of justifying himself only adds irony and layers to the movie. If you need someone's internal monologue or some kind of stereotypical, dripping, obvious EVIL to see reprehensible actions, then...f**k. It is so scary how we can overlook things.
which is why I wouldn’t be surprised if we become like Panam
SO TRUE!! I haven't read the book before I went to see the movie and I LOVED it, as it was fascinating to see how such an evil character started out. I come out of the cinema and realise there were so many people who didn't like it, were bored by it, was taken aback that Snow turned into "the villain"... like??? It goes to show how most people are so blinded by attention-grabbing action and flashy good looks. All the people empathising, defending and simping over Snow is just proving this book's/movie's point. If Tom Blythe wasn't Tom Blythe then suspicions about his intentions would've been a given from the start.
I agree, the movies actually made me appreciate the book a lot more.
Great video! I really want to watch the movie now, maybe i will have time to do so soon. Thank you for your effort you put into the video.
I think a lot of people either forget or never learned that dystopian fiction is inherently about the present. It is never about a hypothetical future. George Orwell did not "predict" anything, he just saw things that were happening in his current day and exaggerated them so much that a reader HAD to notice them. Like, the red scare, control of citizens, propaganda for a war, aggressive nationalism.... And it is the same with the hunger games. The books are so good because they are ACTUALLY WELL CONCEIVED dystopian literature - not like most of the knock-offs, which create bascially a fantastical world without having anything to say about the real world. Suzanne Collins massively critisises the way media dehumanises people, how the rich leech off the poor, amorality of entertainment industry and much more. She, as an author, actually has something to say, and she say it with the help of metaphors and allegories.
It annoys me so much when people read dystopian literature and either call it a "warning for the future", or just simple fiction without anything to say. So, thank you for taking the time and commenting on the paralels between real world and fiction!
Yesss often that’s the whole point of the dystopia genre!
Loved your chaotic energ that bought plenty of jokes while couching it with plenty of insightful analysis, much of which challenges preconcieved notions and subconscious biases
i remember reading the things they carried in my high school english class and it was all well and good, but it kind of made me think about how detached it is when children are learning or talking about these things in school. it's exactly like that debate scene, and i wonder sometimes if the people i used to know who were involved in model un or whatever are actually really aware of what our country has done or if it's just another one of these fun workshop things that doesn't have relation to real life
also a good distraction would be when you're trying to do work but your pet comes in or when you're trying to focus on cleaning something but your friend calls
i read the orginal trilogy 10 years ago. i have never seen the movies. yet, i am 2 weeks into a Hunger Games youtube rabbit hole that i don't regret and this was the best vid yet.
In the movie I think Snow snitched on Sejanus not to just further his own goals because in his eyes he saw it as Sejanus betraying, because he knew him and his family would be captured by the Capitol, and in his eye he saw Sejanus helping the district woman as betraying him, so he justified snitching on Sejanus by telling himself that Sejanus would have killed me so it's fine, but I do think that Snow cared abt Sejanus because he does blame Sejanus's death on himself bc in the end of the movie he says he killed three people. But idk you guys tell me what u think
i looovee your longer videos!! i love listening to you talk lmao😭❤️
My average watch time says differently haha BUT I feel like longer ones give me a bit more breathing room to cover topics. (Although I alwaaaays regret not putting more whenever I upload so it’s like I need to find a way to be detailed yet succinct!) Ty for watching ❤️
One thing that i loved about the film and book
Was the discussion between Snow and Gaul about power
We get to see from Gaul the influence she would have on Snow as his mentor
But Snow takes the lesson well...
After this he revirlaized the games
He made everything about building the tributes into celrbity idols
So everyone makes it to the capital alive, everyone has food and medical coverage
Because having less or sick tributes is not good for ratings or betting
He also changed it so previous tribute winners would mentor the new tributes
To prevent capital citezens getting emotionally attached or compromised by a tribute like Snow did with Gray...
He also created the victor houses in each district, so Victors would be ostracied from their districts and the people
Living in laps of luxury compared to the rest hoping it would make then hated and despised by their own districts to prevent victors from gaining a lot of public support in the districts
He wanted them to be vlauable in the capital only as athletes of choice
But powerless and distrusted in the disricts to prevent them uniting an uprising.
Also as for sympathizing Snow...
You made the best point...every time snow is given a choice between helping Lucy for doing the right thing or doing it for some reward
The movie and book made it so there never was one choice.
Even after Highbottom says he qill block the prize from Snow
Gaul tells him she will talk to Straebo Plinth (Saganius's father) if he saves the son and he might still get the prize...
Everytime he does something the book/film makes sure we know there is another factor open to him.
He always chose the path that wuld benfit him, but he was able to use the "for the right thing" as justification to himself and others
Till the end, where he no longer cares about justifying himself beyond his own control.
Brillaint.
In the books ya could feel his corruption from the start.
New Divya video release in the middle of my work day, is a welcomed distraction. And its a Friday, I'm done for the day.
hope you had a relaxing weekend !!
the only realistic commentry about the hunger games. Great video!
You deserved a new subscriber
All I know is I need to watch this in 4dx - the Kabhi kushi Kabhi kum lmaooo
i love finding creators who fit my niche. yes, please do a video on the design (this was a great vid)
This channel is for YOU
the framed photograph of collins is INSANE
this video is comedy and literary gold and i am here for it. you move got a new subscriber
Thank you for doing the important work of 4D research and bringing to light all the butt-based names. 🙏This was a funny and thoughtful ANALysis. ✨ in the lawn was by Snow's dad.🦉📖 For real though, nice parallels between all the things. Also. Something I noticed that was more prominent in the book but still alluded to in the movies was that Coriolanus had a good singing voice, too. Lucy Gray's singing was from a place of feeling, connection and expression, but Coriolanus' singing was controlled, technical, and was used only when it served a concrete purpose (when asked to perform the anthem as a patriotic demonstration). The different perceptions and applications of music definitely goes into the whole power of symbolism.
This is a much better analysis of the hungers game reflection of current american imperialism, and by proxy, Israels colonization of palestine. It does annoy me how badly hollywood and the reviews crave to depolitize this franchise, while it being an obvious thing since it would inherently be against Hollywood's interest as an American war tool, but to see the audience over and over fall for it is sad. I remember my teacher allowing us to do a book review of the saga in our montessori monthly book discussion but only to prompt us to discuss its depiction of the media as a political tool, and the dehumanization of districters and dissonance between those in the capitol and everyone outside the imperial core, and how desensitized they were to see their own districts send children to die, and how its all what we currently consumed ourselves, including th3 fancy celebrity weddings and movies such as THG, all this in 6TH GRADE, so its always annoyed me how much adult fans still discuss this as a complete fantasy setting, instead of a heavy reflection of our political climate
people can be so naive and self-absorbed sadly…
that’s why they can’t be more grounded and see the movie or read the books with fear… our current world is just a notch away from the hunger games
sometimes, it’s also simply almost impossible to make change… some of us have to live through war and dictatorships in this world (they would know more about how real the Hunger Games can be)
thank you for this video!!! you really are becoming my favourite channel on youtube ❤
I hope you enjoy your time here 💕💕
thank you so much Divya! Love your videos as usual and this one was especially powerful, thank you for taking the time to draw meaningful connections between the film and current politics, and raising awareness for important issues in the process. and I think a video on dystopian set design would be a great video too :)
my feelings on the movie…. it’s like. sometimes with adaptations it’s clear the filmmakers are simply trying to churn out as near a replica to the book as possible without regard to the translation of the actual message, whereas others take the time and effort to adapt the literature into a film that is faithful to the heart/soul/message even if not a 1-to-1 recreation of the events.
unfortunately i found this movie to be the former. it wasn’t bad, per se, but it was all spectacle and mindless recreation of plot. i didn’t get any of the thought provoking philosophies of the book, and they failed spectacularly in translating snows character.
tbf it is tricky to turn a first person narrative into a screenplay, especially of a character as deeply 2 faced as snow. but that’s why changes have to be made, and dialogue or expressions added to prod at the depths of his character.
idk as a movie it was fine. as an adaptation it fell flat.
Snow was always a twink in the original books though. He's described as a small, thin man with paper white hair in the first book
They’re great at adapting Suzanne’s words
I was thinking he just looked like Slim Shady more than Draco ngl.
thank you!! i dont understand people saying snow turned evil suddenly in the movie. even tho i didnt read the book i could tell there was something off with him from the beginning
1:55 i totally feel that lol, i never finished the book cuz i must’ve gotten bored in the beginning or just got distracted and never finished it, but after watching the movie i absolutely need to read this now
This was me when I first read it but honestly give it a proper go
@@itsdivyag yeah i definitely will, i’m gonna wait because i might get it as a Christmas gift (hopefully)
😂😂😂 as an Indian I laughed to hard at the Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gam
Love this video! A lot of ppl seem to be more wrapped up in the personal story of Snow and Lucy Gray but to me, the best parts of the book is piecing together how the Hunger Games became the Games we’re introduced to in the trilogy.
I’m currently reading and the movie should have only followed part 1 and 2 and part 3 should have been another movie so we could see his life as a peacekeeper and at least listened to the full hanging tree song and it’s true meaning
And fully made their romance more apparent
it's interesting that as of current day(12/12/2023) We have a book focused on the capital, 3 from the lowest district, thus we might get something from one of the Career Districts (1,2,4) who knows.
not the k3g reference 😂😭 so niche
we love you for showing support to Palestinians, you're in the right side of history!
yes 🍉 🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸💓
Neither sides are right, they both have done awful things
@@isaltedsaltNo. Literally look at the fucking death tolls and war crimes. Colonizers always want to paint resistance as immoral
I don’t think there’s a right side in this tbh
@@JustanotherTH-camr771 you do realize that oppression leads to violent resistance. did you expect palestinians to lay down and die? it’s ironic that you’re commenting this on a video about the hunger games. you realize that they resisted violently in the book as well, but i’m sure you wouldn’t say “there is no right side” in the context of the districts rebelling against the capitol.
15:23 Girl, please, we need a whole video on design symbolysms from you!
Pls Im begging you make a vidio about the dystopia design this is such an intresting topic
In the works! Maybe out nearer Jan :)
I loved this deep dive! I dunno if I'm the minority because this book captured my interest so well, and I know myself enough to know that even without watching the movie first, I would've felt the same. People have criticised the book or Snow being bland, or making everything around him seem bland. But I was so fascinated by his strategic analysis of others and frankly delusional thoughts, I genuinely don't understand why people aren't also interested. Though I agree the movie being paired with the book is a fantastic decision, and it may be why that's the direction Suzanne chose to head in for Sunrise on the Reaping!
loved this review!
3:34 i actually liked this! I read his reaction in response to lucy grays praise of the plants resilience! Not the name of it itself.
Completely fair and love the alternative reading of that!!
I would so be into a video about designing a dystopia! please deliver!
WE NEED THE EXTRA HOUR! RELEASE THE 3.5 HOUR VERSION NOW!!!!
kabi kushi kabi games
also the kubhi khushi kabhi gam lolll
Such an amazing video, thank you so much.
I remember the first review of the book of yours really threw me off. I was like "girl, what are you talking about". Weirdly, I have the same reaction to your review of the movie. I was severely disappointed by it, I find it very shallow, not truthful to who Snow is as a character. He seems like a poor, broken boy, when he's a misogynistic, sociopathic fascist. Rachel was the highlight of the movie to me
What do you think about her comparing the movie to real life?
@@blanchebau8807wat do u mean ?
@@InkpinkierosieI mean the comparisons with the book and current affairs, such as the current conflict between Israel and Palestine
I agree my initial reading of the book wasn’t great lmao many factors played in headspace/ time it took to read etc. I just missed the point and at the time it didn’t speak to me as much. Abt the Snow character thing. Ngl I’m not sure how you got the reading that I feel he is just poor and broken tbh! I felt i spoke in this about him showing selfish narcissism from the start of the movie and quotes of him showing possessive/cruel to counteract people who think him flipping out on Lucy at the end was ‘unexpected’. I do think the book is more obvious about this but the movie was quite clear in his portrayal of the character. Was it not explicit enough?
Please the video on designing a dystopia!!
Omg it's Divya G!
Not seeing anyone mention the splendid little K3G reference, but got a genuine flail out of me.
This was my FAVORITE hunger games by FAR.
yess more people need to be talking abt this bc i’ve been saying this too!!
I agree with most of what you said HOWEVER panem is not a capitalist country. There's no corporations or private market. It's all owned by the government. It's based more on the government in Orwell's books and ancient rome.
Ty for the comment! If this is about the part where I said about his Capitolist grandma it was more meant to be a joke
@itsdivyag thanks for clarification :) i just wanted to make sure cuz most people keep trying to say these books are about capitalist America when they're not
Technically it didn't used to be
The plinths for example made their fortune by moving their arms company from district 2 to the capital and then sold weapons to the Capital which helped them win against the first uprising.
It is why the Plinths are so powerful and rich.
It’s a mixed economy
oh, yess, do a video on designing a utopia. i'd love to watch that
I’ve put it on my list 💕💕
The movie of this thing was stunningly produced! 👀
Might go see it again...
I really like Rachel Zegler…..the hate she got online was so overdone
i was eating McVities biscuits when u said that…
I knew
I just did like an english essay on this as one of my texts and i hate that i didnt watch this sooner. Tigriss' clothes are pink like a muted blood???? Like sorryy???? My teacher would actually love you lmao
To steal a joke fron ryan george, becoming dictator means becoming Eminem
Suzanne Collins LOVES to give us little breadcrumbs that lead to reality. Like the WHOLE story for example. It mirrors our current state of society and reality. We live in Panem.
What does the phrase panem et circenses mean?
: bread and circuses : sustenance and entertainment provided by government to appease public discontent.
i need an analysis on the hunger games visuals /colors and design in sci-fi by you biblically
Yes low key the movie commentating on the manic pixie dream girl thing and how man feel like they deserve them
Is any human can be a monster.. Have you read the book that's called," ordinary men?"
Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland
People always talk about humanizing monsters, but all monsters are human and that's the scary part.
I need to see the movie AND read the book 😤
honestly I appreciate it a lot more having reread than the first time I read it
Y’all… remember who the real enemy is.
Talk about being close to this being a reality. My daughter and i walked out of the theater and she hit the floor just trying to catch herself because she is convinced its gonna be real within 5 years.
not the bollywood singing ... i laughed really hard they do be like that tho. i do agree with your assesment that they should have put the after affects of clemmensia's bite in the movie i very dissapointed that in book was very viceral imagery and i think it would have bolstered gauls viciousness? in a sense. in the books Corio is innately terrified of that woman for a reason and while Viola Davis' performanced was stunning , it still didnt convey to me fully why she is so terrifyign yknow. also like this movie did not have any blood like even the first hunger games movie showed blood , where was it like when arache's throat got slit yeah i couldnt see anything what. this movie is rated M here why are you shying away . it felt sanitised in that way, taking away the realism of it and distancing the audience away from the horrors . but thats also a complaint with the main movies as well so.
its really funny that one of people's concerns is that the movie makes snow sympathetic bc i rememebr that was one of the fears/criticsm when the BOOK came out. although i get why its a movie and movies have a history of downplaying stuff ... anywya im gonna watch the rest of the video
i love how you brought up the real world implications especially what if what is happening in gaza . it think its important to have these types of conversations as it may reveal to people, aspects of human kind that they may not choose to see in real life, but are now able to understand and draw parallels to because of these associations. hats off divya . also love the analysis portions of your video they are my favourite parts
also on the idea of designing a dystopia YES i would love to see your thoughts on that
also do you have storygraph? or is it just goodreads?
“Kabhi Kushi Khabi GhaMmMmM”
😂😂😂😂😂
sorry im Indian but very young so apologies if my hinglish is off
Divya how did you hide this from my subscription box??😮 I had to go to your channel to find it😭
Okay nvn it IS in my subscription tab but like 2186742 people posted as well so I didn't scroll far enough to see🙈
Maybe I should upload on a weekday instead 🤣
Watched the movie yesterday and frankly I must read the books
The singing is not delivered well… in some scenes it has this kind of awkward inappropriateness and it takes you out of the moment.
I think I’m in the minority here but I don’t think twink Snow is very attractive at all
Do you know what a twink is 😭
The actor is not a twink at all my god
@@Orangecatenergy a twink is a skinny young hairless male, usually a bottom but not always.
@@Orangecatenergy so yes he is a twink
wb shaved hair Tom Blyth
Well, I thought that this is produced by a big budget studio who is making this prequel for capitalistic revenue, and entertainment, rather than actually spreading a good message, while actual tragedy is happening in the world.
This movie was super relevant. In the end Snow said he was in the hunger games when he was in district 12. Shows that there really aren’t many fair, good people. Imagine how alone he was after his lover tried to kill him and then vanished. That was poisonous to the soul.
21 years old is an expired teenager 🤣
Main reason why I take the Hunger Games more seriously than Squid Games, mainly cause no one tried making a actual game show based on the Hunger Games like Netflix did with Squid Games.
Sorry you ruined the entire show when someone decided to greenlit a actual game show.
Not to mention how poor the conditions where for the contestants 9 hours in freezing cold temp. Also the fact that the producers lied eliminating some contestants unfairly while their influencers who were preselected to go to the next round.
wait why does now look like the white version of lori harvey ex boyfriend damson something?
investment vs views. i wish 80k here
I can't believe Suzanne Collins ripped off the Lucy Gray character from Macross 7's Basara.
“Slutty Draco Malfoy with a buzzcut-“ 😭😭😭💀
21 year old teenager
Sorry, but catching fire is still better
The fact that nothing was suprising is pretty disappointing
Snow did nothing wrong.
See you in court!
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
The squid games parallel is not the same thing. If you sign up for it people can do whatever they want to you. As long as you know