Thank you for the excellent, and rewarding review of the Saint Victor! I just got one a few weeks ago, and took it out for the first time to break it in. I’ve heard several methods suggested for ‘break in’. If you could, (as I haven’t searched yet) for the break-in (if it’s really necessary) I do know it’s crucial to clean after the first round (perhaps 20-30) rounds, but running a rod and patches through the first 3 shots. Shoot one, clean, shoot, one clean, etc… Any new help is appreciated.
Thank you for your response! I don’t think it’s necessary to clean your rifle anymore than 2-3 times a year, depending on how much range time you give it. Oiling the rifle is much more important! Enjoy your rifle, and practice the fundamentals. These skills are perishable if not practiced!!
I love my Saint Victor. It was my first AR and I haven't had a single problem whatsoever so far at 1500 rounds. The muzzle brake is basically perfect. I've been shooting 14"x14" targets at 50 yards and my red dot doesn't even move off of the paper during rapid fire. Also being able to tighten the upper and lower together with the screw under the grip is fantastic. It's a slick and well made rifle and it was well worth the $1200
Hey thank you for your comment! I too love mine! I have roughly the same amount of rounds through mine as you do, and zero failures. It just performs. Shoot flat, and love the trigger. Look for a new review coming soon as I have just purchased another AR!🤙🤙
Initially mine was nothing but problems I had to send it back to Springfield twice. Still had issues until i changed the bcg from the Springfield bcg to a BCM bcg and now it finally runs smooth. Rifle feels great in the hands but they could tighten up on qc a bit. Not trying to knock it cause I really like it just frustrating for the first year.
I bought one of these beauties as a birthday present to myself back in August. I've shot numerous AR style rifles, but this was the first one I've ever owned. It's a beautiful rifle, very well made, and really practical. I still have the flip up iron sights on mine, but I have no problem with them. Are they as good as a dot? No, but they stay true to where I zero them and I happen to.pike old school irons on a light rifle. Speaking of "light", my Saint Victor is very easy to manipulate and aim, and the recoil is virtually non existent. The muzzle brake on it definitely does it's job; it's not there just for looks. My first day in the range with it, me and a few friends put upwards of 300.rounds thru it, and it chugged a long like a champ. My only complaints were that the barrel gets HOT after a couple magazines, and the safety switch vibrated loose on me. A little loctite and an Allen wrench fixed it in 30.seconds, though. The only things I've done with mine is replacing the angled foregrip that mine came with with a vertical grip (makes the rifle extremely easy to keep on target, and keeps your hands away from that hot barrel) and dropped a Radian Raptor charging handle in it that a friend of mine gave me. The only malfunctions I've had with mine are all ammo related; I had a .223 hand load get stuck in my chamber at one point, but inspecting the case after I got it free showed a dent in the case that caused it to bulge and stick. Second malfunction was shooting some "mystery" ammo a friend offloaded on me. One spent case got hung in the bolt when it tried to extract, and then just got pushed back into the chamber. Quick fix, and the case showed damage on the head where the extractor stuck to it. I've put over 500 rounds thru mine, and have had no actual gun related issues.
I have this rifle in FDE with magpul furniture. I changed out my pistol grip to a magpul rubberized grip, Radian raptor ambi charging handle in FDE.Added a FDE dust cover from strike industries and made the safety ambidextrous also in FDE and a Magpul bipod in FDE. It’s paired with a 1-6x24 LPVO. It’s an awesome piece of machinery. Very very accurate. I get a lot of compliments on the looks and when people shoot it.
Nice rifle, and good review. It seems the vast majority are very pleased with this series from SA. It's been said that SA focused on putting quality where it counts, without being gimmicky. It's also interesting to note, this is SA's entry into the AR market too...IIRC. Enjoy, and keep us posted.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 All I added up to my SA Saint Victor was a Holosun 512c, an Inforce tac light, a Warhammer charging handle, and a sling. BOOM! It's done and ready for its intended purposes: home defense, personal protection, and security. Oh, I also changed the obnoxiously loud muzzle break for a muzzle hider 😎
Waxahachie, awesome that's where I live, maybe I'll see you out at the range sometime. Great information, I have the Victor in .308, I absolutely love it, it's a beast.
Hey Russell, First and foremost, great review. I just picked up my first AR, which is the Springfield Saint Victor. I've had a couple of Springfield Armory pistols and it was time to move to the next level. I would like to ask which mount you have for Juliet? My Saint Victor came with a Vortex Red dot which is OK but I really would like to have the option of magnification when we go for yotes. Any advice you can offer is greatly appreciated.
@@saltydad7123 Hey thank you for your response and question. I believe the Juliet came with a small mount in the box, and I just used that. Huge fan of the Saint Victor, and I hope you enjoy it! Excellent choice of rifle!!!
Good review, is this barrell melonited inside as well? Assumed it is, but none of the specs say it specifically. Also can’t see if its 4140 or 4150…. Assuming 50, but trying to verify. Thanks for any details on that! Also, is it a medium or heavy profile barrel? Thx
Thank you for your comment. I mounted the RDS as far rear as the rail would allow with the Magnifier. I removed the Magnifier soon after as I don’t use it. That review was 2 rifles ago, and still don’t use the Magnifier. But thank you for pointing it out-
I haven't got any AR15 but this reviews makes me I need and want one! Good job!! I was thinking to have S&W or Sig M400 but for the price all the good quality built seems saint is the way..
I have the Springfield Armory Saint Victor. Paid under $1000! I like it. The S&W M&P Volunteer XV is nice as well. Do not get their Sport models. The SIG Tread basic models are meh 🫤
Great review. I am wanting to put a fixed stock on mine. Going with the Luth MBA 2. With and A2 buffer. Do you think all I need is the stock , rifle buffer, and a2 tube? Would you think it would work?
David, I do think it will work! You’ve got the A2 so it should be fine. Thank you for the comment and let me know what you think once you’ve converted! If you haven’t already, subscribe and like! Thanks bro…🤙🤙
Have you had any issues with the bcg? Honest outlaw had a bad experience with this rifle but thinking of getting one and have you shot steel case through it?
Thank you Nathan for your comment! I never personally had any issues or problems whatsoever with the rifle. I traded it to get a different rifle, but while I owned it it was flawless. I shot 1000’s of rounds of steel case ammo through it and it preformed beautifully. I still HIGHLY recommend it, especially if it’s a first AR for you. A flawless gun that performs, allows you to spend your time training, and not repairing or replacing parts. Solid- 👊👊
Thanks for the message! Not sure if all retailers sell the same gun bag, but they should!! I ran Federal through it, but it will run pretty much any ammo, including steel case. Enjoy my man👊👊
@@russellsgunsandgear maybe, I only went one time because I was back home for HBL. I’m not planing on taking leave until I put in for terminal leave at the end of 2024 lol.
I hope you are not mounting your WML that far rear where that pic attachment is. Needs to be as forward as possible. Close to the muzzle device. Or you will hella shadow your light.
Thank you for your comment! That was 2 rifles ago and it was my first. I ran thousands of rounds through it and it never melted. Just lucky I guess🤷♂️
My good sir...bring down the iron sights and bring back the magnifier and the red dot, it needs to be just before the handguard meets the upper you might have to flip the magnifier out of the way to use the iron sights
Thank you for your question! I feel like that is a good deal, since I bought mine new for $1300. It’s a pawnshop, so they may negotiate. Offer $900 cash, and if they take your offer, buy ammo with the savings!!👊👊🤙
I have it with the Romeo 5 only. After much research, I found out the eye relief completely sucks with all Juliets!!! You can see this guy shoving his face into the back of his rifle while shooting! With stock pushed in all the way! Lmao!
Thank you for your comment, I also changed the charging handle as I needed ambidextrous. I mentioned it in the review the one I chose one from BCM and have loved it. No issues at all. Highly recommend them!
@@microshaft3109 it may be a reciprocating issue, or check the ammo. Sometimes ammo these days can be shotty. If all else fails, return to the seller and inquire about an exchange. 30 rounds is way to soon to be having those issues in such a high quality rifle. Hope that helps, Best-
@@microshaft3109 are you shooting brass-cased ammo & getting failure to extract? Sounds like steel-case ammo, if you bought the cheapest, steel-case Russian ammo (Wolf, Silver Bear) you can expect feed & extraction problems from almost any AR-15, they are designed for brass case ammo and the usually higher-accuracy button-rifled AR barrels generally get worn out after 10,000 rounds of the cheap Russian copper-washed steel-jacketed bullets. AK rifle barrels outlast with steel-jacketed ammo because they use hammer-forged barrels usually at the expense of accuracy. Saint Victor also uses a hammer forged barrel, & with a nitrided coating so it’ll probably outlast most other AR-15 barrels in its price-range shooting steel-cased steep-jacketed ammo, you probably have the best chance for being able to shoot dirty steel-cased Russian ammo, maybe break in the rifle with some cheap white box brass-cased ammo and get it lubed before trying the cheap dirty steel case ammo
Thank you for your comment. So, that was two rifles ago and I never had an issue with the magnifier causing and issues based on its placement. The pic rail length dictated the placement on the rifle. It worked beautifully for me, so no problem. But, thank you for your input 👊👊
Thank you for your comment Allen!, this review was done 2 rifles ago, and I was an inexperienced camera person. 😂😂 I simply did not “flip” the video in the final shooting footage. Note that the lettering on my tshirt and cap are backwards. Hope you enjoyed the review despite this error!
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Thank you for the excellent, and rewarding review of the Saint Victor! I just got one a few weeks ago, and took it out for the first time to break it in. I’ve heard several methods suggested for ‘break in’. If you could, (as I haven’t searched yet) for the break-in (if it’s really necessary) I do know it’s crucial to clean after the first round (perhaps 20-30) rounds, but running a rod and patches through the first 3 shots. Shoot one, clean, shoot, one clean, etc… Any new help is appreciated.
Thank you for your response! I don’t think it’s necessary to clean your rifle anymore than 2-3 times a year, depending on how much range time you give it. Oiling the rifle is much more important! Enjoy your rifle, and practice the fundamentals. These skills are perishable if not practiced!!
I love my Saint Victor. It was my first AR and I haven't had a single problem whatsoever so far at 1500 rounds. The muzzle brake is basically perfect. I've been shooting 14"x14" targets at 50 yards and my red dot doesn't even move off of the paper during rapid fire. Also being able to tighten the upper and lower together with the screw under the grip is fantastic. It's a slick and well made rifle and it was well worth the $1200
Hey thank you for your comment! I too love mine! I have roughly the same amount of rounds through mine as you do, and zero failures. It just performs. Shoot flat, and love the trigger. Look for a new review coming soon as I have just purchased another AR!🤙🤙
Initially mine was nothing but problems I had to send it back to Springfield twice. Still had issues until i changed the bcg from the Springfield bcg to a BCM bcg and now it finally runs smooth. Rifle feels great in the hands but they could tighten up on qc a bit. Not trying to knock it cause I really like it just frustrating for the first year.
I bought one of these beauties as a birthday present to myself back in August. I've shot numerous AR style rifles, but this was the first one I've ever owned. It's a beautiful rifle, very well made, and really practical. I still have the flip up iron sights on mine, but I have no problem with them. Are they as good as a dot? No, but they stay true to where I zero them and I happen to.pike old school irons on a light rifle. Speaking of "light", my Saint Victor is very easy to manipulate and aim, and the recoil is virtually non existent. The muzzle brake on it definitely does it's job; it's not there just for looks. My first day in the range with it, me and a few friends put upwards of 300.rounds thru it, and it chugged a long like a champ. My only complaints were that the barrel gets HOT after a couple magazines, and the safety switch vibrated loose on me. A little loctite and an Allen wrench fixed it in 30.seconds, though. The only things I've done with mine is replacing the angled foregrip that mine came with with a vertical grip (makes the rifle extremely easy to keep on target, and keeps your hands away from that hot barrel) and dropped a Radian Raptor charging handle in it that a friend of mine gave me. The only malfunctions I've had with mine are all ammo related; I had a .223 hand load get stuck in my chamber at one point, but inspecting the case after I got it free showed a dent in the case that caused it to bulge and stick. Second malfunction was shooting some "mystery" ammo a friend offloaded on me. One spent case got hung in the bolt when it tried to extract, and then just got pushed back into the chamber. Quick fix, and the case showed damage on the head where the extractor stuck to it. I've put over 500 rounds thru mine, and have had no actual gun related issues.
I have this rifle in FDE with magpul furniture. I changed out my pistol grip to a magpul rubberized grip, Radian raptor ambi charging handle in FDE.Added a FDE dust cover from strike industries and made the safety ambidextrous also in FDE and a Magpul bipod in FDE. It’s paired with a 1-6x24 LPVO. It’s an awesome piece of machinery. Very very accurate. I get a lot of compliments on the looks and when people shoot it.
I’d loved to have gotten it in FDE, bet that looks awesome. That trigger tho……
Nice rifle, and good review.
It seems the vast majority are very pleased with this series from SA.
It's been said that SA focused on putting quality where it counts, without being gimmicky.
It's also interesting to note, this is SA's entry into the AR market too...IIRC.
Enjoy, and keep us posted.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
All I added up to my SA Saint Victor was a Holosun 512c, an Inforce tac light, a Warhammer charging handle, and a sling. BOOM! It's done and ready for its intended purposes: home defense, personal protection, and security. Oh, I also changed the obnoxiously loud muzzle break for a muzzle hider 😎
Awesome!! Thank you for the comment! They are amazing rifles!
I got a Primary Arms GLX 1-6x, sling, T rex arms off set mount with Holoson 507c X2 red dot, got the Saint Vicor .308
@@meejmuas8686 Nice 👍🏽
Couple of mods on mine and i love it. The recoul with that midlength gas system feels like the recoil of a pellet gun. Absolute joy to shoot
Very nice rig. Like that they pin their gas block, all companies should but a majority don't and just rely upon set screws.
Waxahachie, awesome that's where I live, maybe I'll see you out at the range sometime. Great information, I have the Victor in .308, I absolutely love it, it's a beast.
Great review. Beautiful, high quality gun.
@@GuitarDad5150 Thank you for leaving your comment!! I appreciate it!
Hey Russell, First and foremost, great review. I just picked up my first AR, which is the Springfield Saint Victor. I've had a couple of Springfield Armory pistols and it was time to move to the next level. I would like to ask which mount you have for Juliet? My Saint Victor came with a Vortex Red dot which is OK but I really would like to have the option of magnification when we go for yotes. Any advice you can offer is greatly appreciated.
@@saltydad7123 Hey thank you for your response and question. I believe the Juliet came with a small mount in the box, and I just used that. Huge fan of the Saint Victor, and I hope you enjoy it! Excellent choice of rifle!!!
I too am a Russell. I too just got a Saint Victor. I too enjoy it.
Thank you for your comment! We have good taste!!🤙😎
Such a phenomenal review. I just purchased one yesterday, and I’m already in love with it
Glad you like it!
Same here I’m picking mine up the 15th dros paperwork is done
The red dot on the hand guard bruh 😂
Great review! Thank you for this information, it will be helpful to me when I purchase my AR!
finally a video where someone bought it
Good review, is this barrell melonited inside as well? Assumed it is, but none of the specs say it specifically. Also can’t see if its 4140 or 4150…. Assuming 50, but trying to verify. Thanks for any details on that! Also, is it a medium or heavy profile barrel? Thx
Bought the B5 model, STV916556B-B5. BOLT CARRIER GROUP
Enhanced M16 w/ 9310 Steel Bolt, HPT/MPI, Melonite®.
Love the review. Got to say it's a bad ass rifle for sure. Got 2 myself and there down right all way reliable.
Thank you! Agreed, very reliable 👊👊
Great review. What gun range are you at in the beginning of the video?
ETTS (Extreme Tactics and Training Solutions) in Waxahachie Texas
@@russellsgunsandgear - Nice, good to know. I thought the only outdoor range south of Dallas was TDSA
What are the tactical advantages of mounting your optic on the handguard?
Thank you for your comment. I mounted the RDS as far rear as the rail would allow with the Magnifier. I removed the Magnifier soon after as I don’t use it. That review was 2 rifles ago, and still don’t use the Magnifier. But thank you for pointing it out-
I haven't got any AR15 but this reviews makes me I need and want one! Good job!! I was thinking to have S&W or Sig M400 but for the price all the good quality built seems saint is the way..
Thank you!!
I have the Springfield Armory Saint Victor. Paid under $1000! I like it. The S&W M&P Volunteer XV is nice as well. Do not get their Sport models. The SIG Tread basic models are meh 🫤
Only two things that concern me before I buy is the loud muzzle and that the iron sights don't lay flat.
Good review! I just got one about 6 months ago, great gun. Also Texas boys! 💪🏽🤙🏽
Yeah Texas boys! Glad your enjoying the rifle! Thank you for your comment! New reviews coming soon! 👍👌💪😎🤙
Just purchased one today. Going to the range tomorrow to test it out. Great review man!
Hope you enjoy it! Thank you man!
Great review. I bought one for my wife yesterday (Victor). Sweet gun!
Thank you sir! Your wife will love it!!
Great review with good details. I just bought one. Thank you!!
Yes sir!!
Work friend highly recommend this AR for price and quality! Great review.
I’ve been extremely pleased with this rifle, no failures!
Good proper review and opinion. Thank you sir
Thank you for your feedback!
Great review. I am wanting to put a fixed stock on mine. Going with the Luth MBA 2. With and A2 buffer. Do you think all I need is the stock , rifle buffer, and a2 tube? Would you think it would work?
David, I do think it will work! You’ve got the A2 so it should be fine. Thank you for the comment and let me know what you think once you’ve converted! If you haven’t already, subscribe and like! Thanks bro…🤙🤙
Grabbing mine tomorrow, not going to be able to sleep lol!
Right on man!! Your gonna love it! Be sure to share with the community your thoughts!! 🤙🤙
Have you had any issues with the bcg? Honest outlaw had a bad experience with this rifle but thinking of getting one and have you shot steel case through it?
Thank you Nathan for your comment! I never personally had any issues or problems whatsoever with the rifle. I traded it to get a different rifle, but while I owned it it was flawless. I shot 1000’s of rounds of steel case ammo through it and it preformed beautifully. I still HIGHLY recommend it, especially if it’s a first AR for you. A flawless gun that performs, allows you to spend your time training, and not repairing or replacing parts. Solid- 👊👊
I’m about to purchase this and so out of the box you get a gun bag case, that’s standard for all retailers? And what type of brass brand you running?
Thanks for the message! Not sure if all retailers sell the same gun bag, but they should!! I ran Federal through it, but it will run pretty much any ammo, including steel case. Enjoy my man👊👊
I really like ETTS, it’s a great range.
Agreed!! Thank you for your comment, and maybe we’ll see you at the range sometime!!!
@@russellsgunsandgear maybe, I only went one time because I was back home for HBL. I’m not planing on taking leave until I put in for terminal leave at the end of 2024 lol.
Are you able to use your iron sights with the optics you used?
I absolutely can co-witness with my current optics. Thank you for the question!
Will the vortex 6x magnification and vortex spark solar fit on that lil rail????
Amazing how that safety appeared on the r/h side then disappeared again how did you do that? Bought one of these recently after many good reviews :)
It's a mirror image at that point in the video. Notice the bolt catch/release on the same side?
No ejection port or magazine release either.
Need to re-upload this in HD quality
I hope you are not mounting your WML that far rear where that pic attachment is. Needs to be as forward as possible. Close to the muzzle device. Or you will hella shadow your light.
Why do you have that “red rubber logo sleeve” still on the rifle?!? If you put some heat on those hand guards (about 2 mags rapid fire) it will melt.
Thank you for your comment! That was 2 rifles ago and it was my first. I ran thousands of rounds through it and it never melted. Just lucky I guess🤷♂️
My good sir...bring down the iron sights and bring back the magnifier and the red dot, it needs to be just before the handguard meets the upper you might have to flip the magnifier out of the way to use the iron sights
The reason is if the handguard becomes loose you will lose your zero
I was looking at one of these for around a $1000 today with the case and extra mags and what not at a pawn shop, looks new tbh, is that a good deal?
Thank you for your question! I feel like that is a good deal, since I bought mine new for $1300. It’s a pawnshop, so they may negotiate. Offer $900 cash, and if they take your offer, buy ammo with the savings!!👊👊🤙
@@russellsgunsandgear thanks alot and if it's still there, lol might have too put it in layaway 😎
@@russellsgunsandgear how's the recoil on this one?
@@Mr9thCHYLD with good recoil management, it’s negligent. Good stance, good c-clamp grip, your good to go buddy 👊👊
@@russellsgunsandgear AWESOME love that set up so I'm most definitely gonna look into now thanks👍🏽
mashallah
Great video!
Thank you!!
Fun rifles for sure. The 308 victor is way too much if you haven't had the opportunity to shoot one.
Just got a St. Victor how did you get the front sights to lay flat?
J Hogan, the iron sights that came on the gun were adjustable. A button on the side of the sight pushes in, and you can adjust them up or down!
@@russellsgunsandgear thanks man much appreciated I thought that was It I was just not pushing hard enough.
Also mounting your RDS on the hand guard vs back on the upper rail is no no. You will not maintain zero.
🔥👍💪🏻💯
Were you recording this from/on a potato?? 360p in 2021?! I mean shit...
Well he also has his red dot mounted to the mlok handguard 1913 lol
@@tobiasfunke3357 nothing is wrong with red dot being there
I have it with the Romeo 5 only. After much research, I found out the eye relief completely sucks with all Juliets!!! You can see this guy shoving his face into the back of his rifle while shooting! With stock pushed in all the way! Lmao!
Does it shop 308?
Thank you for your question! SA does make a Saint Victor chambered in .308, check FTB TV on TH-cam for a great review 👊
I bought one and changed the charging handle and it always jams up on me and the bullets get stuck. Any advice?
Thank you for your comment, I also changed the charging handle as I needed ambidextrous. I mentioned it in the review the one I chose one from BCM and have loved it. No issues at all. Highly recommend them!
@@russellsgunsandgear I’ve only shot maybe 30 shots on it and it’s brand new, is there a reason why the shells get stuck or double feed?
@@microshaft3109 it may be a reciprocating issue, or check the ammo. Sometimes ammo these days can be shotty. If all else fails, return to the seller and inquire about an exchange. 30 rounds is way to soon to be having those issues in such a high quality rifle. Hope that helps,
Best-
@@russellsgunsandgear thanks
@@microshaft3109
are you shooting brass-cased ammo & getting failure to extract?
Sounds like steel-case ammo, if you bought the cheapest, steel-case Russian ammo (Wolf, Silver Bear) you can expect feed & extraction problems from almost any AR-15, they are designed for brass case ammo and the usually higher-accuracy button-rifled AR barrels generally get worn out after 10,000 rounds of the cheap Russian copper-washed steel-jacketed bullets.
AK rifle barrels outlast with steel-jacketed ammo because they use hammer-forged barrels usually at the expense of accuracy.
Saint Victor also uses a hammer forged barrel, & with a nitrided coating so it’ll probably outlast most other AR-15 barrels in its price-range shooting steel-cased steep-jacketed ammo, you probably have the best chance for being able to shoot dirty steel-cased Russian ammo, maybe break in the rifle with some cheap white box brass-cased ammo and get it lubed before trying the cheap dirty steel case ammo
What foregrip is that?
That is a Magpul Angled foregrip. I think I bought it on Amazon, maybe $25? Been a minute. Thanks for the question!!
At 3:52 the sights have changed!
Just bought mine today manufacturing date of 05/24 still the same iron sights.
Pic rail too small. Your red dot is fully on the handguard (vs. receiver), hanging over.
bro that eye relief has to be terrible that magnifier is so far forward i refuse to believe he sees anything but a tiny peephole
Thank you for your comment. So, that was two rifles ago and I never had an issue with the magnifier causing and issues based on its placement. The pic rail length dictated the placement on the rifle. It worked beautifully for me, so no problem. But, thank you for your input 👊👊
I feel like i'm losing my mind but one minute that gun is left handed the next right. help me out on that!!!😵💫
Thank you for your comment Allen!, this review was done 2 rifles ago, and I was an inexperienced camera person. 😂😂 I simply did not “flip” the video in the final shooting footage. Note that the lettering on my tshirt and cap are backwards. Hope you enjoyed the review despite this error!
Get your red dot off your MLOK rail.
Should I install it like yours? Oh wait, you haven’t posted any videos yet to show anyone how it’s done properly. Lol
Does that cause an issue?
@@aftaflash It could affect your zero on your dot, but it never gave me any trouble! Thank you for your comment!! 🤙🤙
Where can you get the pistol grip cover on the bottom? I didn't have one on my saint victor when I bought it
Thank you for your question! Try BCM for the pistol grip, they came on the gun when I bought it 👊
@@russellsgunsandgear thank you sir