The Real Spider-Man

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  • @movieshillmedia6399
    @movieshillmedia6399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1181

    I always felt crazy loving Andrews Spider-Man,but I always felt he was my favorite because of how the responsibility didn’t come easy to him it felt the most believe able and impactful for me.

  • @heitoroliveira5166
    @heitoroliveira5166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    Andrew Garfield was the most hardcore fan of Spiderman of all three. Maybe Tom Holland is a fan, he said he would want to play spider on tour from The Impossible, lots of years before.
    But Andrew, we could feel how much passion he had for this character. From the video at SDCC where he's literaly shaking to the interviews with people saying he was actually teaching and working with the stuntmans about how Spiderman should move in real life. Andrew deserved better because that was his dream and he would give everything he could to make the best Spiderman ever and i think all the hate this movies recived because people literaly forgot original Stan Lee's work and praised only Raimi's interpretation maybe broke his heart. I know it broked mine. Until this day i get pissed about how sony destroyed TASM2 and sacrificed Andrew Garfield with no mercy. No closure. I love you, Andrew Garfield. You deserve everything.

    • @tuffdude7795
      @tuffdude7795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      TASM movies were pretty bad, but it had nothing to do with Andrew. I feel really bad for him. He was stuck in mediocre and bad movies and tried his best to bring Spidey to life. I think he was a good Spiderman. They really screwed him over and I am glad they are bringing him back for No Way Home.

    • @peter_parker62
      @peter_parker62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Raimi's version of Peter Parker and Andrew's version of Spider-Man are perfect.
      The bad one is the overrated MCU Spider-Man.

    • @Anksh0usRacing
      @Anksh0usRacing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@peter_parker62 No. all of them are good in their own ways, and with the newest Movie out now I can say with 100% certainty that we needed the three different iterations.

    • @PixlPlayer
      @PixlPlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      In no way home you can really tell how happy Andrew is to be playing Peter again

  • @RickleVR
    @RickleVR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1554

    The best Spiderman is the 1970s Japanese's Supaidāman

    • @jvmeel7454
      @jvmeel7454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Finally someone tells the truth🤦🏾‍♂️😂

    • @spaceghost5067
      @spaceghost5067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Your damn right

    • @Gundam_JAY
      @Gundam_JAY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      MAARRVLER

    • @Gundam_JAY
      @Gundam_JAY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Leopard CHANGE!!!

    • @eldritchpumpkinghost2968
      @eldritchpumpkinghost2968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That’s a funny way of spelling Nic Cage Spider Noir

  • @emilsoderman3691
    @emilsoderman3691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    The bit from ASM that always stands out to me is the bit just after Ben dies, where Flash comes up to Peter him and you think he is going to do his usually bully shit and you can tell Peter is like "Do anything and I will fucking kill you" and Flash just walks up to him, gives him a huge and says "I´m sorry, man."
    Giving that bit of extra humanity and respect to Flash earned the movie a ton of credit for me.

    • @ultimamage3
      @ultimamage3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      They didn't hug, dude. Flash did step up to Peter to try and talk to him but Peter shoves him against a locker. What happens there is instead of our expected reaction of Flash fighting back, he actually tries to empathize with Peter and says, "Feels better, right?" which immediately clues people in that his own aggression is because of a personal issue he's taking out on others. The kicker is he's the first person to even approach Peter that day even before Gwen shows up.

    • @hoodiek6802
      @hoodiek6802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      The actor who played flash is awesome he could've been Agent venom

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@hoodiek6802 they actually made flash good he’s like flash Raimi was only used in bullying and revenge then left out until his cameo and mcu is just a pushover

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does some stuff better than Raimi and I think it did the main characters better than Raimi it’s just Raimi had more characters

    • @OverlyPositiveFanboy
      @OverlyPositiveFanboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flash Thompson gets better with each reboot.

  • @backup-qg6nb
    @backup-qg6nb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +953

    Even when the story was bad and convoluted, this Spider-Man himself was never terrible.

    • @mohdmirzan7565
      @mohdmirzan7565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      That's probbaly all cuz of webb while the movie was butchered by sony I think he still tried to make it somewhat good

    • @TheSchaef47
      @TheSchaef47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I loved Andrew Garfield, in this and in his other work. He deserved better than these final scripts.

    • @HeroDM77
      @HeroDM77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They really shot him in the foot

    • @isaacgonzales5612
      @isaacgonzales5612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As spider-man he was a really bad spider-man

    • @gama103
      @gama103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@isaacgonzales5612 he wasn't a bad Spider-Man lol. Even the majority who don't like his movies admit his Spider-man was very good

  • @jackdailey5238
    @jackdailey5238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1882

    I’m so happy Andrew Garfield is finally getting all the praise he deserves. Best Spider-Man was stuck in the worst movies

    • @literallyjosh
      @literallyjosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Worst Movies? Nah they the best purely because the characters are so breathable and accurate and its really watchable.

    • @baligong3592
      @baligong3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Amazing Spider-Man 1 was, imo, Very good.
      TASM2 was a Flop. Electro mad that Spiderman doesn't know him, and He seem to have let many people die while chasing Rhino.

    • @itszian7241
      @itszian7241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@baligong3592 Yup those were the nonsensical ones that made the movie more to a flop...

    • @isaacgonzales5612
      @isaacgonzales5612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He's actually the worst spider-man. The movies completely ruin spider-man.

    • @baligong3592
      @baligong3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@isaacgonzales5612
      You got some High Standards, I wonder who fits those Standards, and what they represents

  • @baligong3592
    @baligong3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    That Peter vs Flash moment in that Old Comic was Gold. "not even Frankenstein's Wife will think twice to look at you!" "Eh, don't worry, she's not my type anyways"

  • @HeartlessSlayer
    @HeartlessSlayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1189

    Its a shame that Andrew gets a lot of flak from those who fetishizes the Raimi movies as well as MCU spider-man, and I'm a big MCU fan myself. Even with the flawed story its just so fascinating to see Andrew's take on Spider-Man being more genuine. It helped too that unlike Tobey who never read much of the comics, Andrew has been a life long spider-man fan himself. If it wasn't for the politics for the movie rights as well as Sony's hasty nature to make their own cinematic universe, we probably could've still watch Andrew be Spider-Man.

    • @alexhodgkinson6718
      @alexhodgkinson6718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Spot on.

    • @gabethebabe3337
      @gabethebabe3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Tobey literally read issues 1-99 of the Amazing series and analyzed stuff from the Ultimate comics with Sam Raimi what are you talking about?

    • @flightlesslord2688
      @flightlesslord2688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      exactly, Id be way more exited to see him in No Way Home than Tobey. Mostly because Andrew was soo good he deserve another chance, to do his character's story justice.

    • @itszian7241
      @itszian7241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@gabethebabe3337 He meant Tobey wasnt so much into Spiderman than Andrew was during his young age...

    • @kinskins1538
      @kinskins1538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@itszian7241 I'll trade all MCU Spider-Man films, heck all MCU films for TASM 3. TASM2 was way better than Far From Home.

  • @XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX
    @XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1448

    Insomniac Spider-Man is the perfect mix of Tobey, Andrew and Tom.

    • @mrboerger1620
      @mrboerger1620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      But not a good spiderman movie lol

    • @XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX
      @XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +333

      @@mrboerger1620 that a cute HiTop reference. Did your husband give it to you?

    • @mrboerger1620
      @mrboerger1620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Yes

    • @forrest.0569
      @forrest.0569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mrboerger1620 no?

    • @awl3452
      @awl3452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreeeee

  • @Jilluminum
    @Jilluminum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    My favorite Spiderman scene happens in amazing 2 where Peter and Harry are having a hang out at a park and Peter hops over a railing and hangs backwards over the water. It was a nice visual metaphor for how he uses danger to emotionally distance himself and how that was messing with their friendship. There were a lot of little nice character moments like that which made all the relationships in those movies pop

  • @shreysoni7391
    @shreysoni7391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    For the last 2 years I've been trying to tell my friends why I love TASM movies, and this video explains it perfectly. Andrew is my Spider-Man and I'm super excited to see him return in far from home

  • @pcssfc
    @pcssfc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I feel like when people look at the character of Peter Parker/Spider-Man they think of him as the rami Spider-Man personality because that’s what a lot of people grew up with and what they come to identify the character as, they neglect the comics before because that’s not their Spider-Man. Unfortunately alot of them do not comprehend the idea that their version isn’t perfect and there can be different interpretations of the character.

    • @Corey_Tenderson
      @Corey_Tenderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Proof that some Spider-Man movie fans haven’t even read the comics: i saw one guy say Andrew was a bad Spider-Man because he didn’t save Gwen…
      Even though that literally happens in the comics.

    • @thespidercrafter8547
      @thespidercrafter8547 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Corey_Tenderson Then by that guy's logic Comic's Spider-Man is also a bad Spider-Man because he also did not save Gwen.

  • @DevonRodgers
    @DevonRodgers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    You could argue that bully maguire is the most comic accurate Spider-Man. He has anger issues (pins Eddie against the wall), is a flirtatious trickster, and has the Parker luck

    • @masterbrawler1298
      @masterbrawler1298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Lmao you’re right omg

    • @DevonRodgers
      @DevonRodgers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@masterbrawler1298 yep haha

    • @jajagaming3602
      @jajagaming3602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I really count that as he was affected by the symbiote

    • @traktor420
      @traktor420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      But what if Bully Garfield became a thing?

    • @chrisquinn3377
      @chrisquinn3377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The bully Maguire arc should have happened in the first movie when you put it like that doesn't need a black suit just getting the powers in the first place would work just as well

  • @superior2096
    @superior2096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    Andrew deserved better.
    Even though he's far from my favorite version of Spider-Man.

    • @brt1strrbb110
      @brt1strrbb110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think that's the general consensus. He had(possibly) the most potential, but the worst writers. If he's in No Way Home and they kill one off, I actually hope it's Garfield and they give him an amazing send off holding more back than Tom can and Tobey can't because he's just getting older.

    • @fnspidey3825
      @fnspidey3825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@brt1strrbb110 no, I don't want that.

    • @brt1strrbb110
      @brt1strrbb110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fnspidey3825truly a well thought out reply.

    • @mystery4561
      @mystery4561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brt1strrbb110 why does it have to be garfield though? What if they end up killing off tobey's version? Plus we don't know if they will actually kill one of them yet.

    • @brt1strrbb110
      @brt1strrbb110 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mystery4561 I did say "if they kill one off." My reason, I think he deserves, not to be the focus as it still HAS to be about Holland, but for him to have one of the biggest moments. Really just going hard against multiple opponents

  • @InjusticeJosh
    @InjusticeJosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    This is how it’s done. This is how one should compare live action adaptations with the source material and not by just finding a panel that looks similar to the cinematography or actor.

  • @HowserMaeve
    @HowserMaeve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    I honestly wouldn't have complained if Andrew was the MCU's Spider-Man. Holland is a great actor, but I prefer the themes and ideas of Andrew's first movie over anything with MCU Peter.

    • @GoldenDragonMonkey
      @GoldenDragonMonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He almost was, and it makes me feel so bad for Andrew who gotta watch 50 other actors have all that fun

    • @ventusvanitas7544
      @ventusvanitas7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same, I feel they should’ve had Peter from TASM films and Andrew brought in

    • @tarnishedpose
      @tarnishedpose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "holland is a great actor" lmao

    • @ventusvanitas7544
      @ventusvanitas7544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tarnishedpose he is a great actor, we just don’t like the fact he doesn’t portray a correct version. If that makes sense.
      Andrew has acting and the actor down. Which is good.

    • @joeda900
      @joeda900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tarnishedpose He's indeed a pretty good actor

  • @madtitan0825
    @madtitan0825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    U know wut this makes me appreciate this version more with a new perspective, all three versions give different feelings, that’s pretty nice

  • @LukasRocks001
    @LukasRocks001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    There's a reason Tobey's version is still beloved despite being innacurate: Quality>Accuracy. He made Spider-Man into a Superman-like beacon of inspiration. It's different than the comics, but seeing as it's the one version that still resonates with most people, can anyone really say that Raimi did a bad job?

    • @HeroDM77
      @HeroDM77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Raimi made a spider-man movie from the version of the character he remembered and what stuck with him. And the man has a very strong personal style.
      Honestly if sony didnt interfer as much as they do, i would love to see how all these films would have turned out.

    • @rishshortfilms
      @rishshortfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@HeroDM77 Exactly, he was also so heartbroken over Spider Man 3 that he promised he would redeem those mistakes in Spider Man 4.

    • @joshheralal8758
      @joshheralal8758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I would love it if we saw him grow from an angry kid to a Superman-like symbol.

    • @pedrovizcarra5520
      @pedrovizcarra5520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, spider man 3 sucks

    • @hahaimout1693
      @hahaimout1693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no, but actually yes

  • @timy9197
    @timy9197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I think we really shouldn’t be wasting energy trying to find the perfect Spider-Man because there’s no such thing. There were plenty of versions of the character before the movies even came out. It just matters which one is best as a movie character.

    • @ScoutNasty
      @ScoutNasty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      The real Spider-Man are the friends we made along the way

    • @ScoutNasty
      @ScoutNasty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But actually, the best Spider-Man is the one you relate to most. I personally love Peter B. Parker from Spiderverse.

    • @fallentitan7704
      @fallentitan7704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ScoutNasty same

    • @ventusvanitas7544
      @ventusvanitas7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The perfect one is insomnaic

    • @ventusvanitas7544
      @ventusvanitas7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Insomniac*

  • @beauty1nchaos
    @beauty1nchaos ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love how flash started becoming chill with peter. showing they have tht love/hate bond like from the spectacular spider-man.

  • @thattrickytrickster612
    @thattrickytrickster612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tobey’s Spidey, to me, has become more of anrole model akin to Superman. He represents the best of us, what we SHOULD strive to be. That’s why it isn’t only nostalgia to many people, it’s a genuine love and passion for an idol. That doesn’t mean he is the perfect incarnation of the character.
    While I love all the Spider-Men equally, Tobey was the most impactful. But I’ve also met people who have been equally impacted by Andrew and even Tom. The core of Spider-Man is what unites us fans, and only favoritism that divides us. All three actors deserve recognition and respect.

  • @jackelproductions7035
    @jackelproductions7035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I love how someone is finally analyzing these traits

  • @moviehermit5631
    @moviehermit5631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Nice to see some proper love given to TASM. It was definitely weighed down by both the shadow of the Raimi movies, and the interference from the studio. If Marc Webb had complete control of the entire story, then the franchise would definitely have kept going strong.
    On another note, something to take into account is how TASM seemed to be heavily inspired by the Ultimate Comics
    - Ben's talk about Richard's philosophy was ripped straight out of the comic panels
    - Robo Rhino
    - Conspiracy involving Peter's parents
    - Telling his love interest his identity as Spider-man relatively early
    - Working with Doctor Connor's leading to a science experiment gone wrong
    - Peter and Harry being childhood friends because their dad's worked together is very similar to Peter and Eddie in those comics
    - Developing his suit and web-shooters in the basement
    - Electro's blue design
    - The Green Goblin created with the same formula that gave Peter his powers
    - Spider coming from Oscorp (I believe the original comics from the 60's just had it come from a public science exhibit)
    - Being very destructive when he first got his powers, even having an incident with Flash and basketball (the comics had him accidentally break Flash's hand, as well as join the basketball team until he learned responsibility)

  • @andromeda3028
    @andromeda3028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lol, finally!, someone who appreciates Spider-Man
    Back when I was younger, when I first saw the opening scene for The amazing Spider-Man 2 swinging through the city I immediately thought “Yep, this is it, this is my favourite movie”

  • @va6899
    @va6899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I’ve really hated both of The Amazing Spider-Man movies for a long time, but like your videos on Tom Holland’s Spider-Man, I feel like I understand fans of those movies a lot more. And honestly, I might even give the first Amazing Spider-Man movie another shot. Thanks for dishing out quality ass content regularly.

    • @MrEffectfilms
      @MrEffectfilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just remember not to compare Andrew to Tobey, just think of it as his own interpretation of the character. If you can do that then I think you'll like it just fine.

    • @va6899
      @va6899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrEffectfilms Will do

    • @VictoryReviews
      @VictoryReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first film is a genuine banger

  • @RSRye
    @RSRye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    One of the BEST Spider-man analysis videoes I have ever seen, you have really outdone yourself! I don't know how to put my feelings into words, but everything you said in the video is what I have been wanting others to understand. I don't know what to say other than, thank you, thank you for putting this video out into the world. Thank you.

  • @commanderspyder5432
    @commanderspyder5432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Literally right after I asked you to make this video, you released it lol. Love your content man, Andrews' Spidey is so underappreciated. I do think you should have mentioned Ditko along with Stan Lee though, since both contributed heavily to Peters' personality traits.

  • @joadarium9605
    @joadarium9605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Andrew Garfield definitely was the most comic accurate Peter out of them all. And I’m glad he’s getting the praise that he never got after No Way home.

  • @rickdeezy07dj
    @rickdeezy07dj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Amazing content as always. I personally am a bigger fan of Tom Holland’s Spider-Man but it would be nice to see some more layers of the character explored like with Andrew Garfield’ version

  • @diego-bf3eo
    @diego-bf3eo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i have finally found my people, Andrew IS Peter Parker he IS Spider-Man! He embodies that character so perfectly and it helps that he cares about spidey so much, if you don’t believe me just search his SDCC speech, I will be honoring and representing him in the NWH premier night by dressing as spidey in tasm 2

  • @jacobusgodfrey4124
    @jacobusgodfrey4124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those who fight it become monsters, those who live with it become greater. That is beautiful and I can relate.

  • @jbobko9291
    @jbobko9291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Andrew was the absolute best Peter and Spider-man.
    He evolves into a better person, through being increasingly responsible.
    It was perfect (outside of the plot of TASM 2)

  • @HoodedUlTi
    @HoodedUlTi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally someone who realises how good Andrew's Peter is. Peak vid dawg

  • @paperboy1116
    @paperboy1116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I swear, when it comes to some things, Leo is just the voice in my head to explain why I love Andrew Garfield’s Spiderman.
    And now he’s gonna do Punisher. Love it!

  • @lettuceskin7500
    @lettuceskin7500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you fucking took the words right out of my mouth, just wow! This is exactly why i will always cherish the amazing duology

  • @Mirrorcomics24
    @Mirrorcomics24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    To me there’s no real Spider-Man, there’s a combination of things that each Spider-Man has to make them up

    • @masenyaolivia9705
      @masenyaolivia9705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same

    • @superior2096
      @superior2096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah you always have a good Spider-Man but at the end of the day no one is perfect.

    • @kyleco9149
      @kyleco9149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Every spidey in other media are different versions of how the director envisions them,

    • @timy9197
      @timy9197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly

    • @tuffdude7795
      @tuffdude7795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just like any character every version is different and one isn't better simply because it is more accurate to the original run. I like Spiderman and there should be some core elements that remain the same with each version, but I like that they are different.

  • @skorpione10
    @skorpione10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not gonna lie, Garfield's even got the face shape and the hair.

    • @uncannydcmarvelous5732
      @uncannydcmarvelous5732 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of which depiction?
      Romita Jr.? Bagley?

    • @skorpione10
      @skorpione10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Both of these as well the original Ditko version, which was mostly shown in this video, so it was the one I was referring to.

  • @thalesspinolafernandes2204
    @thalesspinolafernandes2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you so much! I've been loving your comics x movies critics since you started.
    Because of you, now I'm reading Spider-Man comics from the start and seeing panels I just read on your videos has been awesome!

  • @nedleeds449
    @nedleeds449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just to point out, Tom’s Peter does have a bit of a temper other than dismissing his classmates. He purposely wrecks Flash’s dads car with a set of bikes, knocks Flash out with a slap in their tour bus, insults Star-Lord’s favorite movie, taunts the Prowler after leaving him stuck to his car. Downside is that unlike Andrew, it only gets more shown whenever he is being Spider-Man while Andrew’s Peter has that edge.

  • @thelittlelagoon
    @thelittlelagoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just love your video essays. Literally all my thoughts about my favorite hero are so perfectly translated on your channel, while also greatly enhancing my love for Spider-Man. You are absolutely AMAZING!!!!!!

  • @dorsk188
    @dorsk188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    After watching people on the internet argue about Spider-Man since at least 2012, it's just so refreshing to hear from people who really get it. Even in the comics, Spider-Man struggles with his role as a real-life-Marvel-mascot, because all of those things that make him a great character don't translate well to selling Hostess Fruit Pies, but it seems like movies make that poor-fitting role even worse. He's just not a natural action-hero type in the way that studios tend to make action movies now. Webb's movies were hobbled by a lot of problems, but they mostly got Peter and Garfield's take was as close to perfect as anyone could ask.
    (Or maybe part of the reason Webb's movies were so uneven is that the scripts and producers didn't quite know what to do with Peter Parker.)

    • @Everydayartist12
      @Everydayartist12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive been trynna preach this for the longest

  • @hrugved005
    @hrugved005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ok halfway through the video and I love the narrator... its this guy who truly receives this movie the way Marc Webb intended it! This dood dosent have any biased opinions and actually really understands who spiderman is UNLIKE 99 percent of the fandom shitting on this series! ITS TRUE! This series got spidey/ Peter right! It's been a decade of people lieing to themselves by falling for others' opinions as to how these movies are bad, while not making the effort to get to know what spiderman/ Peter really are by DEFINITION!

  • @ArlGrmes
    @ArlGrmes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing. The other day I said that Andy was the most comic accurate Live-action Spider-Man and then I see this video show up in my recommendations lol

  • @yashdeokate1210
    @yashdeokate1210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The amazing Spiderman 2 suit is THE BEST SPIDERMAN SUIT. I can look at those big eye pieces for hours.. they are so cooooooollllll

  • @GARMkidd
    @GARMkidd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I also love sally field's performance as aunt may. It may not be the most accurate, but she brings a lot of the heart and realness of her

  • @tobertcordless2491
    @tobertcordless2491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is no "real" definite version of Spider-Man because there's always reboots and new canons being written. His motives and personality change according to the environment (but mostly writers) his stories take place in

  • @jcv8505
    @jcv8505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the first amazing spiderman film more than homecoming. So its nice to see others not just like but love this version because everything you just said is exactly how i felt

  • @gyrotid
    @gyrotid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video, I love how you related it back to Ditko and Lee’s original run.

  • @d.maxwell8669
    @d.maxwell8669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I loved Spiderman as a kid in the 90s, and the Raimi films will always have a special place in my heart for being pure wish fulfillment to have an actual modern live action Spiderman film for the first time ever. Also, Spiderman 2 with Doc Ock is my 2nd favorite Spiderman movie (1st is Into the Spiderverse). That said, I was never much of a fan of Tobey's portrayal. It wasn't bad, but it certainly lacked something which I couldn't quite nail until I watch this video. Tobey's Peter leaned in too much into the nerd aspect of the character, and it felt like a caricature. He barely made jokes as well, either as Peter or Spiderman. And when he did make jokes, it almost always felt flat.

    • @peter_parker62
      @peter_parker62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I disagree about the jokes part. Because almost every quip by Tobey has been turned into a meme.

    • @rajyavardhansingh4491
      @rajyavardhansingh4491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He had the best quips out of all.

    • @davidashton3671
      @davidashton3671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@peter_parker62 They are memed for their corniness and their charm. Any new movies tried to pull that shit today and it would fall flat. Some of it really didn't aged well.

    • @alfa01spotivo
      @alfa01spotivo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidashton3671 theyve aged greatly much better than mcus cringe jokes

    • @ArashiKageTaro
      @ArashiKageTaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You obviously don’t love Spider-Man enough to put the respect he deserves on his name by including the hyphen!

  • @MarcelLWalker
    @MarcelLWalker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This video was solid, and you've given me a lot of food for thought about the Andrew Garfield movies and his interpretation of Spider-Man. My only quibble is this: Your essay locks Peter Parker/Spider-Man into a static interpretation based on his traits as a teenager. All of the defining elements you cite are rightly parts of his personality _when he was a teenager_ , specifically during the first few years of his published stories. You haven't really taken into account that Parker evolved over time. There were a few comics that were published after Lee left the series, after all!

    • @commanderspyder5432
      @commanderspyder5432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Most of those personality traits carried over to now though. The only major difference modern comic Peter and the original is that he's not really a jerk anymore, which we see in these movies; Peter's a dick in most of TASM1, but is much more like the friendly neighborhood hero we're used to in the sequel.

    • @MarcelLWalker
      @MarcelLWalker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm going to respectfully disagree that most of those personality traits carried over to his present. Sure, Peter's still funny and flirty and smart...but him not being a jerk is due more to him not having an identity as a _victim_ anymore. Somewhere 5-10 years along on his timeline, Peter's lived some real life and come through it, and as Spider-Man, he's highly regarded and respected by his peers. In ways, he's even seen as a veteran hero and a role model to younger heroes. His detractors are in the minority, and even Jameson isn't taken seriously.
      I find it telling of the character's fans, and MARVEL, that they're so reluctant to allow the character to be an adult. Do we prefer Spidey as a jerk? If so, it's not really his fault that he's got such perpetual bad luck. That's on us!

    • @commanderspyder5432
      @commanderspyder5432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@MarcelLWalker Did you read all of my comment? I literally say that Peter is no longer a jerk, because he's a fully grown adult, not a hormonal, angsty teenager. I never said I want him to go back to that (I hate when Marvel tried to reverse all his development with One More Day), I'm just explaining that he was a lot less likeable when he was a teenager, and we see that in these movies; after all, when is Peter a jerk in TASM2?

    • @danielhart7435
      @danielhart7435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@commanderspyder5432 Peter wasn’t even much of a jerk for real.

    • @commanderspyder5432
      @commanderspyder5432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@danielhart7435 Not the biggest jerk ever, but he was still a jerk, which is the entire point of the 'great responsibilty' lesson. He's pretty selfish in the first few comics.

  • @dariusbrock2713
    @dariusbrock2713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The thing is, Raimi focused on the tragic side of spider-man and built on that alone. Still created a masterpiece and we still got the spider-man feel. This is why my favorite movies are the raimi movies but my favorite individual spider-man will always be Andrew. Watch the spectacular spider-man and the ps4 spider-man and you'll realize Andrew is by far the most similar to them, he matches their charm, wit and fighting style. Even as a fighter, Andrew was the most "spidery" cause he showed the springy, quick movements and actually properly used his webs in combat. he truly fought like a spider. Tobey was more like a brawler. As for Tom....hes Ironman JR...im kidding., Tom got the naive and rookie spider-man down to the dot but his major major flaw as a character was that it felt like he always wanted to get out of ironman's shadow, which is annoying because Spider-man was literally the first teenager to not be in the shadow of another older hero.

  • @Bigshart410
    @Bigshart410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is why I adore Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man, he put through all of his heart and soul into the role and defines him what makes Spider-Man special and relatable in our lives.

  • @adonisssss2197
    @adonisssss2197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Andrew deserves to be everyone's favorite. He just embodies the spirit of the character so effortlessly, because he loves Spiderman so much. You can argue all you want but he's the most accurate on-screen Spiderman we've ever gotten. Andrew is and will always be THE Spiderman! 🕷

    • @joekerr4300
      @joekerr4300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truly the most accurate on-screen Spiderman

    • @adonisssss2197
      @adonisssss2197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katevictoria3313 He's my main reason for wanting to watch NWH too! Can't wait to see him. I'm just praying he won't be a Tom Holland variant 💀worst nightmare lmao

    • @adonisssss2197
      @adonisssss2197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joekerr4300 Amen

  • @elvinjohn7777
    @elvinjohn7777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought I was alone TASM is a masterpiece

  • @holasenorita
    @holasenorita 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've always loved Andrew's Spider-Man. So happy to see that he's finally getting the praise he deserves.

  • @justcallmeKad
    @justcallmeKad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tobey in Spider-Man 3 checks all the marks in the Peter Triangle lmao

    • @sikelouie6881
      @sikelouie6881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it was just mostly when he had the symbiote

    • @leonevelake
      @leonevelake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But he was also boderline delusional dancing in the sidewalk and his anger was nearly berserker like.
      I would say it was a bit different

    • @milk5002
      @milk5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only cause of the symbiote

  • @chrisj.3290
    @chrisj.3290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really hope we get to see Andrew return as his Spider-Man in No Way Home, as well as Tobey of course, that'd be phenomenal, and its crazy to think that we might get to see them again as both Spider-Man in less than 2 months from now

  • @jordanlongley3776
    @jordanlongley3776 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “We have to be greater than what we suffer, and even if we fail…what better way is there to live”

  • @ezekielchristiannnn
    @ezekielchristiannnn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    And everyone laughs at me for saying Andrew is the best spiderman.

    • @Courier_333
      @Courier_333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm a tobey fan but if I ever directed a Spider-Man Andrew Garfields the one I'd pick; he's great

    • @Christian-xw9iq
      @Christian-xw9iq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toby>

    • @MikianF
      @MikianF 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No wonder bro

    • @user-jz3zz4sl8r
      @user-jz3zz4sl8r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Christian-xw9iq bruh

  • @Tyler_W
    @Tyler_W 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't particularly care for for ASM movies, but their portrayal of Spider-Man himself was on the money. I still think Spectacular Spider-Man represents the best interpretation of the character in non-comic form. He goes through all of the growth that Peter does in the ASM comics, but in a very streamlined but satisfying manner. The only one that compares is Spider-Man PS4. He doesn't quite have the megative impulses, but it's clearly still there since Otto, someone who is arrogant, petty and angry, serves as a direct foil for Peter, what Peter would be had he made the wrong choices, and you still see that conflict between self-sacrifice and his selfish desires toward the end of the game. It more reflects Peter further along in his growth (8 years specifically). I hope we see a little more personal stories for future Tom Holland films more in line with Homecoming, but less innocent Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Allow his character flaws to reveal themselves as a young adult in college.

  • @StretchP69
    @StretchP69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This might be the video on TH-cam that most understands Peter Parker as a character that I've ever seen

  • @wheatart4274
    @wheatart4274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yesss! I adore this series, and while I love Tom's passion, Andrew will always be my favourite. Also, the Electro theme is SO COOL.

  • @SpideyVerse-nx8wb
    @SpideyVerse-nx8wb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i honestly don’t care because i like each and every spider man for different reasons and you guys can like any version but some fanboys won’t allow people to have favorites

  • @DJ-wh1tp
    @DJ-wh1tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn, I always knew my boi Garfield-man was the best. had the first one on DVD as a wee lad, watched it almost constantly. I could recite the script by heart. While I can agree that holland may be objectively the best, he never really stuck with me like Andrew did. Andy Gorfeeld will always have a special, spider-man shaped place in my heart, not only as the first spider-man I grew up with, but as hero in general that I grew up with. 😊

  • @dignusdingus3709
    @dignusdingus3709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I also feel like he looks the most how I would generally picture Peter Parker looking physically

  • @rigzmoviediaries654
    @rigzmoviediaries654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    TASM is so insanely underrated

  • @SAClassHunterZero
    @SAClassHunterZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, you actually made me reconsider TASM; thank you.
    I think the Parker Triangle is also exhibited nicely in the 1994 Cartoon; the Peter Parker I grew up with was such a loveable asshole haha.
    Thing is though, Maguire seems better represented in the games than in the films. He complains more, he quips more, he seems more on point with the triangle, if only a little. Ironically, I found the best display of his irreverence was in the Spider-Man 3 game, where he converses with characters like DeWolff: A far-cry from the dork in the respective film.

    • @commanderspyder5432
      @commanderspyder5432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I don't understand how Activision-owned developers understood the character more than Raimi, no shade to the guy lol

    • @SAClassHunterZero
      @SAClassHunterZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@commanderspyder5432 That's the funniest thing I've read all day lmao

  • @macmcleod1188
    @macmcleod1188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I believe you have a destiny to be a great voice actor or narrator. You're one of those people that I can happily listen to reading the phone book.
    But then you also write dopeshit like this script and i think perhaps you'll have many great destinies.
    Plus great work ethic!

    • @isaacphoenix9200
      @isaacphoenix9200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watch a lot of TH-cam around writing movies and games and stuff to be better myself, and this is my favorite channel by far.

  • @Bubblegob
    @Bubblegob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, I always loved Andrew's portrayal of spidey despite some poor choices made in those movies

  • @Courier_333
    @Courier_333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude I love how different our ideas of Peter Parker are.
    Peter is definitely a trickster with bad luck and temper. But in my head, he's nowhere near "happy go lucky"

  • @kfauzi109
    @kfauzi109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm so glad I'm able to watch the video. Ever since a traumatic experience in my life, my life and the way I see it has been very different. I'd say for the most part I've healed from it but now I'm looking for my identity and the one question that plagues me to this day is whether I'm still me if I'm playing a character I want to be. Very weird question. This channel and many like it have helped me find more of myself and helps me build that person to this day.
    I guess I realized that I didn't really know myself at all, and now I'm in the middle of finally being able to build my personality. That's where it's getting complicated for me because I'm to earnest to really feel good about the act because I feel like I'm lying. Anyway, this video helped with that question.

  • @caedengoering
    @caedengoering 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These Spidey essays are DOPE. So many are Raimi shills. Raimi made GREAT films with a GREAT character - he’s just not the definitive Spider-Man. I’ve always loved Garfield, and The Amazing Spider-Man is one of my favorite Spider-Man movies for all the reasons that you stated here.

  • @Rohit-ne2el
    @Rohit-ne2el 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Someone who appreciates these films as much as I do

  • @taloralexanderwilliams1477
    @taloralexanderwilliams1477 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro I would vote for you as President. You get it. You are sadly I fear a truly rare human being.

    • @sodium285
      @sodium285 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd vote for Implicitly Pretentious as President of the WORLD.

  • @JoshEastham
    @JoshEastham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved the dynamic between Peter and gwen too. I thought it was really good

  • @LordCornshoe
    @LordCornshoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU. I've been saying this for literally YEARS. Garfield is the most faithful-to-the-original-Ditko/Lee concept of Peter Parker out of all the on-screen Spideys.

  • @gonkdroid8279
    @gonkdroid8279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Rarely hear people say Andrew's their favorite Spider-Man, but you make some strong arguments

  • @trevthomscultclassiccorner2037
    @trevthomscultclassiccorner2037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank You. Further proof most people who watch the movies, don't read the comics. Which is fine. But folks just need to admit it.
    ASM2 is still GOAT.

  • @elkhanorujov384
    @elkhanorujov384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh man, this video changed my perception of TASM. Thanks a lot. Looking forward to see him again in NWH🤩

  • @kdean_art1066
    @kdean_art1066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love all versions of Spidey! I also love your videos man, keep up the great work!

  • @soccer4207
    @soccer4207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is a very interesting version of Spider-man and, as I look back at the comics, absolutely how he was portrayed. But, personally, I think that the other version (if you simplify it, Raimi's version) holds up as well. It's just a massive shame that main stream media has leaned away from actually depicting this version of Spiderman. At least make him a different Spider-man in the multiverse in the comics. Give us another rendition of a movie Spider-man like that.

  • @BonzerMrT
    @BonzerMrT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I definitely forget myself sometimes, that Peter Parker is actually a bully. Beneath the jokes and low blows, he genuinely is a jerk to people he doesn’t like or if he’s in a crap mood. He still gets stepped over and he lashes out when things don’t go his way. We’ve seen it in almost all Spider-Man comics. One example from Ultimate is when Wolverine and Peter switched bodies but when he got his own body back not only did peter cuss out Wolverine, but began to make almost even racist remarks towards the whole of X-men. Ik the Ultimate universe in itself is Edgy, but Ultimate Spider-Man was a lot of people’s introduction and was a huge hit as well.

  • @fridgy6394
    @fridgy6394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That fkn Evangelion Death and Rebirth reference at the start-

  • @SpaceFlamingo07
    @SpaceFlamingo07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing Spider-Man 2 should have been a tv show with all the subplots it had

  • @alexhodgkinson6718
    @alexhodgkinson6718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm so glad you made this. Maguire is my nostalgia but I'm sick of telling people that Garfield is the best adapted Spidey/Peter. And people saying Maguire is the best Peter and Garfield is the best Spidey are imo wrong too

    • @AbandonedVoid
      @AbandonedVoid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spider-Man isn't like Batman. Peter Parker and Spider-Man are pretty much the same person. Bruce Wayne is almost nothing like Batman. It's a comparison that doesn't make sense to me.

  • @connorbrown4241
    @connorbrown4241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfectly put into words why I love this iteration. Well made as always!

  • @selfloathinggivesmelife7810
    @selfloathinggivesmelife7810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I see Andrew's (rumored) appearance in No Way Home as his redemption arc. His second chance to appeal to even more people.

  • @BlueEyesWhiteCinnamonRoll
    @BlueEyesWhiteCinnamonRoll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Literally ranted about this the day before you posted this and then my boy sends this vid to me😂 thanks for validating me bro. Subbed up

  • @omniframe8612
    @omniframe8612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's cause the Raimi films over emphasized Peter as a pathetic love struck geek instead of an every man who grows beyond his nerd phase. The crux of Peter Parker's character that modern writers struggle with is that Peter's journey is about growth and not being a bullied teen or remaining a teenager. Peter Parker is the first superhero that actually grows up throughout his comics. But the films, especially Raimi's trilogy don't let him grow beyond being a geek. That's why Spider-Man 3 didn't work. The symbiote story was about Peter embracing his dark side and him having to grow beyond the darkness.

  • @alexlennen
    @alexlennen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always man, always look forward to your uploads

  • @GOKU-px7qd
    @GOKU-px7qd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just love Andrew the way he did play the spiderman and the chemistry b/w Gwen and Peter is just great, the theme song and the web Swing is just another level awesome.
    For me the amazing Spider-Man is the best spiderman and yes I'm baised.
    And last thing since multidimensional is a thing now so can they give Andrew his 3rd movie it would be so cool 🔥

  • @samkelly5682
    @samkelly5682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In a landscape where the majority of "video essays" have become samey and repetitive and in my opinion less genuine, it was very refreshing watching this video. Took me back to when these types first started out on youtube and you felt something when you watched them.

  • @pian-0g445
    @pian-0g445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like if Sony didn’t mess with TASM2 (like they did with Spider-Man 3), we could have had one of the best super hero trilogy ever. I’m the first movie, he’s a kid out for blood basically and just scratches the surface of being a hero at the end.
    Say his development is very similar to TASM2, by the end, he would truly become a person we could label as a super hero, really entraining what his character uncle taught him. And 3 could have potentially been about him at his ‘prime’ and basically being tested to his limit, to see if he can stick to his uncle’s teachings and when’s dad. Basically a coming of age for a super hero.

  • @kennethsatria6607
    @kennethsatria6607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't expect the original comics to hot so close to home, I remember when i was bullied but a few years later I got a growth spurt and while the people I had a grudge with had already went elsewhere, the anger from that time never went away so whenever someone gave me a reason I would push back harder than what was reasonable and pretty much liked it.

  • @davidashton3671
    @davidashton3671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And down there we can see a bunch of Raimi fanboys jumping to defend their holy gospels.
    Ironic that fans of the kindest portrayal of the character are the ones who are the most toxic.

  • @AiJuice1
    @AiJuice1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING PETER PARKER - I get so annoyed with how they portray Peter now because it isn't him Andrew Garfield truly was the closest movie version.
    Ultimate spider-man comics did a great job of portraying Peter's angst. I remember reading those comics as an angsty teenager and there is a line where Nick Fury tells him he gets it, he is a teen and has raging hormones and doesn't even now why he's blowing up... made me realize I was doing the same.
    All in all- love your videos man. Been watching for awhile but don't comment. Keep it up.

  • @brucewayne8252
    @brucewayne8252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I simply love all different versions of Spidey .

  • @alathmasster2189
    @alathmasster2189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At the very least, Andrew's Spider-Man absolutely *NAILED* the "Friendly-Neighborhood" aspect

  • @iweberhed
    @iweberhed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one of the best Spider-Man video essays I've ever seen, maybe the best. Great work.

  • @spideyfan6441
    @spideyfan6441 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As Much As I Love Tobey, Andrew Got Everything That Peter Parker Was. I Always Said That Garfield Is Early Steve Ditko Spidey, 90s Spidey, And Mostly And Certaintly, 1610 Ultimate Spider-Man.