Firewood cutting 1980's style, pioneer farmsaw!!!

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  • @robertsimard735
    @robertsimard735 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love seeing them old pioneers.

  • @gsanchez7154
    @gsanchez7154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I ran chainsaws since I was a 15 years old I'm 45 now I still love it and I enjoy watching someone so good at it.

  • @Indeewoods
    @Indeewoods ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No shortage of firewood there eh! Beauty saws. That little 44 really rips.
    I’ve got a 41 but have to assemble it yet. It came in for repair at the local saw shop but customer didn’t want to pay what it would cost to fix so they gave it to me.
    This vid makes me want to get it going.

  • @justinweaver8787
    @justinweaver8787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very very nice ol pioneer very very sweeeet!!!!!

  • @Kristof-1983
    @Kristof-1983 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the pioneer farmsaw and the 1074! I got 2 farmsaws but not with the funny handle... nice video!

  • @notyourpapa
    @notyourpapa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That pioneer has alot of torque at low speeds. Awesome.

  • @neilcurtis2741
    @neilcurtis2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Giving the pioneer some love! I like it, now port the snot out of it! I’m pretty happy with my p39 after porting let’s see a tinman pioneer

  • @eriklong6390
    @eriklong6390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Pioneer farm saw is actually a wicked looking saw. I really like that. That clutch, lol. Ding ding ding, dinner time! Haha! Love it!

  • @ianrobertson4616
    @ianrobertson4616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a bunch of pioneer saws good old saws, I have a very mint P62 just under 100cc it's a power house.

  • @scottfoster2487
    @scottfoster2487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That pioneer sounds pretty normal. I had a bunch of these and the poulan pros and they all sounded like this one,noisey but good torque for a boat anchor lol

  • @magnuscharette1132
    @magnuscharette1132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just picked up a farmsaw myself, glad to see a few kicking around!

  • @yota4004
    @yota4004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that Pioneer is a nice saw.

  • @glenspryszak6005
    @glenspryszak6005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My P28 jingles just like that....and runs great...

  • @Aldo2m0r04
    @Aldo2m0r04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Tinman. Yesterday I reamed a Tillotson HS carburetor from 15mm to 19mm. Today I will reinstall the diaphragms and i'm going to try it on my Pioneer P51. Let's see what's going to happen. Greetings from Italy! (If my english is bad, sorry about that)

  • @michaelwheadon1078
    @michaelwheadon1078 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm liking it!

  • @tdawg8605
    @tdawg8605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see Stock saws. Sound good, cuts good, light = a good saw. I personally don't own and have never cut with a custom ported saw and I'm not brave enough yet to doctor my stuff, yet, one day.... mmaayybeh. For now stock works great for me. TC Mahalo Tinman 🤙🤙🤙

  • @brianking1138
    @brianking1138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had a Husqvarna 44 for nearly 30 years and I love it .

  • @afleetcommand
    @afleetcommand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE this video! I have a echo & john deere (echo ) that needs a reason to exist. Reminds me of that Pioneer, That little orange saw rips! Sometimes its just fun to get the old iron running sweet. Suff an eight pin on them for a "hop up"

    • @davewilson7565
      @davewilson7565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it looks like an echo , I have several 👍🏻

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it.
      I love running saws just for the enjoyment, that farmsaw is slow but it cuts.

  • @aaronpowell4885
    @aaronpowell4885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A couple awesome old saws👍🏻 always fun to have a reason to get e'm out☺ never seen a FarmSaw before!

  • @mriwayanofficial69
    @mriwayanofficial69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job 👌👍
    Keep spirite do your work my freand👌👍💪

  • @gregm4441
    @gregm4441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like watching your video's cause I'm a chainsaw nut, but I'm amazed how popular porting a saw has become. For cutting firewood a good sharp chain makes the biggest difference. The last thing I want is a temperamental saw. I keep mine stock. I like dependable, and long lasting.

  • @forestthompson6617
    @forestthompson6617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a farmsaw for free, it needed almost everything fixed. It ended up with the 272 carb, two stage Boyesen reeds, and a new blue coil. It frigging rips!

  • @JoeRainis156
    @JoeRainis156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tinman Love the GnR t shirt. Wish you were going to Bunyan but your wife and daughter will always come first.

  • @brotherlove100
    @brotherlove100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun video. I enjoy seeing stock and vintage saws in action because the evolution in engineering fascinates me. There has been a distinct shift in saw function philosophy, and I love it. Torque vs. speed.

  • @briangood5610
    @briangood5610 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tinman awesome video on the old Pioneer. New subscriber and love your channel. I just purchased a Pioneer P41 Farmsaw in good condition but it doesn’t run. Hope to be able to get it working! Thanks for sharing all your chainsaw knowledge!

  • @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849
    @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job, giving props to the stock chainsaws! You are absolutely right that most of the work overall gets done with them. I've seen a number of these Pioneer Farmsaws for sale over the years and I've always been tempted to get 1. I think you've pushed me to make that decision!👍

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should grab one, they are nice saws for sure..

    • @shelbywilson114
      @shelbywilson114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta be careful. Coil issues and weak recoil that are just about non existent. I do love my pioneers though. I have a 655bp p42 hi performance a p41 and a farmsaw lite. Awesome and easy too work on

  • @michaelwhiteoldtimer7648
    @michaelwhiteoldtimer7648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Pioneer saw runs great

  • @johnsonlong1272
    @johnsonlong1272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great saw have a pioneer farmsaw just like it has the same noisy clutch lol also have a farmsaw ll. And it's no joke about the read cage cracking if you tighten the carburetor too tight or used too long of screws just about everyone I've ever seen is cracked both of mine I have glued the cracks and sealed with Yama Bond to keep them from leaking one of them would quit when you left it idling no matter what you did touch the throttle when she was idling and she would quit. The other one wouldn't hold a tune then one day I noticed I had to take it lean to get it to run right so I pulled it apart found the cracks on the read block so the next day I pulled the other side apart same thing. Great video man they do run good especially on our modern mix oil.

  • @jacobnelson9144
    @jacobnelson9144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a good running puoner

  • @patrickbass3118
    @patrickbass3118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pioneer saws are the best in my opinion - nice video tin man, I have a farm saw too. I don't run it much cause it is in perfect condition... From time to time I do pull it off the shelf and go for a rip..
    Edit - I also have a p40 it is very similar, I beat the heck out of that one though 😁

    • @jjock3239
      @jjock3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an P28, an RA, and a 120 cc IEL Pioneer, and would love to get my hands on one of the later models from the 70s, in the 90 or 100 cc range.
      My first new saw, in 1975, was a P25, which I sold when I got a Sthil 051. I regretted selling it, it was a reliable little saw.

  • @ozdatman
    @ozdatman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mmmmmm Pioneer!

  • @ChevyGuy70
    @ChevyGuy70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That pioneer is a beauty 👍

  • @VK2FVAX
    @VK2FVAX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That little guy's a ripper. Deffo needs some clutch.

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the clutch is pretty shot on it. Still rips good though

  • @fabzacres-blackcat
    @fabzacres-blackcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried running a friends stock saw the other day … it was like watching paint dry ! That farm saw moves along upon further review - sounds like it’s running well , torquey saw

  • @sethmcavoy7672
    @sethmcavoy7672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The chain brake is one of the few safety additions I don't hate all the time.

  • @elonmust7470
    @elonmust7470 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't know they had them with full wraps. Now I want one or two.. That 55 is also quite nice. I liked climbing with rear handle saws like that back when I did climb.

  • @scottwilson4396
    @scottwilson4396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can see you are used to about 3k more rpm Tinman haha ! I know you’ll fix that 110 roof 👌🏻🤘🏻❤❤

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, yeah I'll admit I was kinda waiting for this one to cut.

  • @aarongosselin5138
    @aarongosselin5138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love running pioneer p series saws something about a reed saw just torque monsters

  • @jasonmercer9962
    @jasonmercer9962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to pull the baffle out of the muffler and it will sound great and flow better. Cool video running some classic saws.

  • @STUNMUN
    @STUNMUN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta love the old pioneers. I said I was done buying more saws, but recently got a P41 for a decent price. I ran mine the other day through some red alder. It only has a semi chisel chain so its not cutting to its full potential. I want to get full chisel for it but its an odd size 78 links, might need to get a chain made for it. I am curious to see what you do with the muffler tinman. I have removed my baffle and screen but I have not run it without that yet. Seems like my saw is getting choked by the factory muffler. Maybe a gasket delete and muffler mod would go a long way. My wood shed is full now but watching these videos makes me want to go out and get some more. Cheers.

  • @wompwomp9
    @wompwomp9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like a cluch that rings like that personaly.

  • @conormichael7964
    @conormichael7964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those 44s, 51s, and 55s are amazing for the size and weight. I have a bone stock rancher 55 from 03 that’s been run hard forever. I just bought a second on that I just ported, and wow it woke right up, still tuning the clutch but she’s a rowdy little saw❤

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Care to share your numbers? I've been writing down suggestions from lots of people to eventually use on my 51. The ring gap is kinda wide (high mileage) and I am going to put on a 55 cylinder once it starts losing its manners and port it. Is yours closed port w/ decomp?
      TBH it cuts great as is.

    • @conormichael7964
      @conormichael7964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattfleming86 I don’t want to yet, they are unproven and it’s a real experimental cylinder, it was a lot of work gently making a tonsiled intake, mirror polished exhaust with a fairly high exhaust groove. It was a Titanikle cylinder with a pop up piston from Ryan at wolf creek. It has a working decomp as it’s for my grandfather

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@conormichael7964 Understood. I want to go OEM cyl and more "kind of sporty" than "experimental" so thats certainly for the best.
      It's hard to find folks who have done it without going pretty short on blowdown. I really love the mid-throttle on this thing.

    • @conormichael7964
      @conormichael7964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattfleming86 keeping it like that is pretty hard without machining, the way I have it is for more high end since he cuts 6-10in wood so it not what you want, from running one I’d say increase the intake timing SLIGHTLY, raise the exhaust 1-2 degrees and widen the transfers, they really don’t need all that much to get the really running hard.

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@conormichael7964 Yeah it runs great the way it is. Our hardwood has a lot of suckers and whippy limbs so its going to be hard to keep that balance. I probably need to just widen what I can and slick up. Thanks for the advice! Its similar to what another person said too. Going in the notebook.
      Maybe I just need to put a new ring in it and ontinue

  • @farmerjackson709
    @farmerjackson709 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those farm saws are nice. Carful when tighting the carb mount bolts the intake/ reed block is super easy to crack. The coils give trouble too but you can swap out for a husky coil I believe. I just bake mine in a toaster oven when they give trouble

    • @jjock3239
      @jjock3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your theory for baking them, what temp, and for how long. I remember having to bake a distributor cap to get an English car running, but didn't think there were any components in the ignition coil that would benefit from heating them. I have some dead Husky SEN coils that I will cook, if you can give me some parameters such as, temp and time.
      Thanks,

  • @motordiverse1276
    @motordiverse1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey ! Nice editing and that Pioneer runs good. You have the move and control...when using them of course. I also enjoy the same HQ 44 and it is great ...or actually have several ...also the older ones...and some is still full of power...starts easy...light on weight. Looks like Holtzforma and the chain on Pioneer is good stuff !

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those bars and chains have been holding up pretty good

  • @EightWheelsRollin
    @EightWheelsRollin ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer vid and Rowdy, perfect comment for the Farmsaw!! How do you like that bar on the Farmsaw? I need a new bar for mine. Any info you can provide is much appreciated.

  • @mardenradvillas1063
    @mardenradvillas1063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watch you all the time and I was wondering if you know where I could get parts for a P52. I'm needing a new carburetor. Thanks

    • @jameswilson322
      @jameswilson322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch e bay , if you watch there is pioneer parts on there that is oem or new old stock . Good luck 👍

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ebay was also my thought.
      You can also mount an HS carb off a husqvarna on most pioneers

  • @hpelisr
    @hpelisr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You got to run them saw's once in a while, keeps the carb working.

  • @Buddha-of8fk
    @Buddha-of8fk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Farm saw is definitely not Pioneers best saw. We ran Pioneer for years at our logging company. The best was the P41, P51 and P61. When they went to the Farm saw we switched to Husqvarna.

  • @andyd.1793
    @andyd.1793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Tinman, what dictates how long of a bar you can run on a saw? I have a stock Echo 590, and the manual says max 24" bar, but I'd like to run a 28" on it if I can do it without risking damaging the saw. BTW, as a child of the 80s, I like that Pioneer saw. It does sound rowdy!👍

    • @TheScoundrel70
      @TheScoundrel70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll second that Andy D, good question 👍

    • @shawnreeder9835
      @shawnreeder9835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe the factory echo cs600 and 620 can be purchased with a 26 inch bar. Both of which are pretty much the same saw just with upgrades like better handles for one. I don't know if it would pull a 28 but I don't see why it wouldn't. 🤔

    • @Oli4vn
      @Oli4vn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My rule of thumb is 1 cm per 1cc of displacement

    • @conormichael7964
      @conormichael7964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Having run one once with a 24in bar I’m no expert, but that saw with a sharp chain had more to give, I’d say a 28 would be fine just don’t get to greedy with the rackers and it will be front heavy no matter what

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Throw everything you've heard lut the window. What size wood are you going to cut with that 28" bar, and is it mostly hardwood or softwood?

  • @justinmcphee268
    @justinmcphee268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What size J-red is that laying in your truck? Is it stock? Firewood season is the best season!

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a 65cc 2165. Bone stock

  • @michaelmeyers1827
    @michaelmeyers1827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It works

  • @andybecker2693
    @andybecker2693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope it’s burning off old carbon but I would venture to guess that there is a leak between the two tanks. They are known for that.

  • @jeremybarnes7017
    @jeremybarnes7017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    U have any good running large saws u selling?

  • @Apalm12
    @Apalm12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey brotha what bar does that 44 take I got to get a bar for mine the ow that’s on it doesn’t oil correct

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think thats a k095 tail bar on there. 18 " 325 pitch I tjink

  • @garrysmith5645
    @garrysmith5645 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ever find the reason the clutch is noisy ?

  • @buckymack4559
    @buckymack4559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Tin what kind of bar is that on the pioneer

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Holzfforma .050", 3/8" 28" bar

  • @leonardobatistarocha7956
    @leonardobatistarocha7956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    o machado e a motosserra (The Axe And The Chainsaw)
    eli silva & zé goiano
    composição: moacir dos santos / zé goiano
    o machado e a motosserra tiveram uma discussão
    motosserra diz que é orgulho da evolução
    machado pra mim já era pois vem do tempo de adão
    você agora só serve pra fazer calo na mão motosserra dá um ronco relou o dente no tronco já se vê o pau no chão
    a serra chamou o machado pra fazer uma porfia
    machado aceitou na hora e quando chegou o dia
    entraram junto no mato pra mostrar a serventia
    a motosserra roncava machado velho tinia
    e naquele matagal foi só cavaco de pau pó de serra que subia
    e esse grande duelo deste jeito é que termina
    na briga das ferramentas o machado é que domina
    motosserra parou cedo ali no tronco da quina
    machado seguiu cortando mata grossa e mata fina
    motosserra impotente rebentou sua corrente acabou a gasolina
    que isto sirva de exemplo para toda humanidade
    e você que é tão jovem tem que saber a verdade
    respeite bem os mais velhos não brinque com sua idade
    uma pessoa idosa também tem utilidade
    é um diamante valioso se não tivesse o idoso não teria mocidade

  • @DavidBergman1776
    @DavidBergman1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Mint. All I can say

  • @jjock3239
    @jjock3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ tinman. I have a, what is to me, an interesting question. You have a lathe, and my question is, have you ever knurled a piston on one of your rebuilds. I am an old guy, 79, and when I was a kid my local engine rebuilder often knurled pistons when doing a rebuild when only one or two cylinders was out of tolerance. I have also learned, that PM Canadien chainsaw builders also overhauled pistons by knurling them. With all the building you are doing , this would be an opportunity to give new life to OEM pistons, that in my estimation are of much better quality than the cheap stuff from overseas. ,

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a great question!!
      To be honest for the price and quality of the aftermarket stuff I use I can't really be bothered to knurl a piston..
      I've little to no trouble with Meteor and hyway pistons so I tend to throw those in
      .

    • @jjock3239
      @jjock3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tinmanssaws I just thought I would ask. I was thinking long term, and by that I mean, Some Mac and PM pistons are getting pretty rare, and I was thinking it would be a great way to keep these saws alive. I have a candidate, a 24 horse Briggs, that has piston slap, but I don't have the time to tear it down and chuck the pistons in the lathe and knurl them.
      Thanks for considering it anyway.

    • @jjock3239
      @jjock3239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tinmanssaws I have the answer to another issue I think you were discussing regarding disabling the governor on a Husky 2100. I have the answer, just drift it out, and block the hole with one of the aluminum plugs you get in a rebuilt kit. The person that passed this on to me, also stated, that you now have a 12,000 rpm saw that will cut like jack the bear, but you no longer have any protection from over revving, and it is now possible to blow the bottom end out. Caution is the watchword. I am going to do it to one of mine, but this won't happen until winter when I have some time. Right now, I am just fixing things to stay operational, such as, fixing a leaking fuel tank, replace two coils, change the starter in my 4x4. Next, pull the tranny and transfer case, so I can replace the clutch. To do this, I have to weld up a transmission cradle for my floor jack.
      That is just the beginning of my list. and at 79, I'm no young pup.

    • @jimmyheap3345
      @jimmyheap3345 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where can I get an air filter for my p42 farm saw and my p52 saw

    • @jjock3239
      @jjock3239 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimmyheap3345 I'm sure there is someone out there with an air cleaner, but I personally don't have any extra parts. I think there is a Pioneer group on the Arborist forum, where you are more likely to get a response to your question.

  • @WMH435
    @WMH435 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how that pioneer farm saw would run with a lightly warm port job 🧐( by what I mean by lightly warm is a 1 degree on the intake and 1 1/2 degree on the exhaust side ) with that said this is your saw not mine lol

    • @tinmanssaws
      @tinmanssaws  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not very good at "lightly warm" lol

    • @WMH435
      @WMH435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tinmanssaws haha true but you can make it work 😉

  • @hatchetmaggot515
    @hatchetmaggot515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    spicy

  • @dillgross6758
    @dillgross6758 ปีที่แล้ว

    I run a P50. thing is a stud.. it also has factory decomp. feels like it has no compression until she's on and running and ripping your arm off

  • @jeffreymccargar5959
    @jeffreymccargar5959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carbon Bern out years ago.