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  • @gustavusnicolaus6750
    @gustavusnicolaus6750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It was not about showing the pitfalls of capitalism. It was about showing the detriments of monopolies, especially on land (or natural resources in general). Henry George, who was the original inspiration for Elizabeth Magie, wanted to show how landlords monopolising rent were detrimental both to the productive power of labour AND capital. For him labour and capital were in symbiosis, while the real "dog in the manger" was the landlord monopolist who withheld (or held for ransom) a vital means of production (land) and provided nothing of benefit to society in return. The failure of modern progressives to understand this is mostly because the importance of land (natural resources) in production has been forgotten - partly through the efforts of those interested in defending the institution of landed property.

    • @insertyourfeelingshere8106
      @insertyourfeelingshere8106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *Forgive my paragraph structuring or lack there of:*
      Monopolies are the pitfall of capitalism Magie tried to showcase. Inevitable result of unregulated capitalism is monopolies forming within markets, these monopolies hypothetically would buy each other eventually leading to the collapse of capitalism.
      Post industrial capitalism is founded upon the idea that competition will lead to innovation, monopolies and monopoly like entities like oligopolies break this system by controlling the majority of a market allows them to profit through undercutting emerging competition as opposed to innovating more than their competitors.
      Example would be the candy bar industry, the dozens supposedly competing companies are all owned by the 1 or 2 companies, predictably there has been little innovation throughout the candy bar industry and prices have been steadily rising while manufacturing costs have been lowering
      Regulations on capitalism such "Monopoly Busters" (where companies that control 2% or greater of their respective market are broken into unrelated competing companies) exist to ensure companies are rewarded for innovating as that is the ideal capitalism is founded upon. 2% is an apparent guideline as companies like amazon controls 80% of the eCommerce market

    • @roro-mm7cc
      @roro-mm7cc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Monopolies are the result of unregulated free market capitalism.

  • @nthperson
    @nthperson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Lizzie Magie was not anti-capitalist; she opposed monopoly privilege. Nor was Henry George anti-capitalist. He believed in the private ownership of tangible, capital goods but argued the case for the community ownership of land.

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok, what about Albert Einstein, Hellen Keller, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Jacque Fresco, R. Buckminster Fuller, Eugene Debs, and the list goes on? Were the anti-capitalist or not? And what if they were anti-capitalist, they have rational, logical reasons to be anti-capitalist since structurally capitalism is unjust, unhealthy and unsustainable. Are we not supposed to expose and criticized flawed systems and expect better?

    • @nthperson
      @nthperson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@coolioso808 How Lizzie or Henry George would respond is that what was described by Marx and other writers as "capitalism" was in reality a system of socio-political arrangements and institutions brought into being by those who held power in order to protect their monopoly privileges. The agrarian landlordism of the pre-industrial era was never replaced; landlordism was extended as agricultural became commercial, as production of goods became the province of large and growing monopolistic enterprises, and as the financial sector similarly evolved. Monopoly is, from this perspective, the primary systemic problem to be eliminated. As access to nature is the birthright of all persons equally, the ideal means of granting individuals access to and control over nature is not by government mandate (i.e. under state socialism) but by competitive bidding for a leasehold interest (i.e., under market forces).
      So, yes, there is much that needs to be changed if we are to have truly just societies, with just laws justly enforced.
      What is interesting about most of the critics of the status quo you list above is that they were to some extent influenced by their reading of Henry George's works. Einstein's correspondence indicates that he read George and agreed with many of George's observations and conclusions. King quoted Henry George in his final book.
      Last year I gave a series of lectures on the history of the exchanges between proponents of Henry George's analysis and those of Marx and other socialists. The lectures are recorded and available on my personal TH-cam channel if you are interested.
      Edward Dodson

    • @VANRICKELEN
      @VANRICKELEN ปีที่แล้ว

      You didn't actually watch the video. It says. She was a "staunch" anti Californinist....wait... I mean anti capitalist. ( sorry my bad, typo). This lady was a very left communist,(like most them are) her whole goal was to show the " bad ways of capitalism " .... but in which showed the best ways of capitalism by cooperation, free trade, individual negotiations between parties, exempt from tyrannical leftist communist governments. Excessive taxation, and all the other pitfalls of natzi leftist communist people's. Freedom for you from government, Freedom for me from government

    • @nthperson
      @nthperson ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VANRICKELEN Lizzie was an anti-monopolist. The system she opposed was the system that resulted in the redistribution of wealth from its producers to monopolists and other privileged individuals.

  • @BrasspineappleProductions
    @BrasspineappleProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The monicle!

    • @BruddaOsasOfTheBoosh
      @BruddaOsasOfTheBoosh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It bothers me

    • @abztrakt7071
      @abztrakt7071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BruddaOsasOfTheBoosh You saying you never remember him with a monocle?????? Coz to me he always had one, this is a Mandela effect hahaha you and me are from 2 different parallel universes 😉

    • @ThatOneReligiousCatholicPerson
      @ThatOneReligiousCatholicPerson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does not exist

    • @aussierose9015
      @aussierose9015 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yees he always had a monocle I swear

    • @derkonig3035
      @derkonig3035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatOneReligiousCatholicPerson comrade i remember him wearing one 🤔

  • @mclohan
    @mclohan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sooo……..
    The monopoly man definitely had a monocle?? 😂

  • @willreasoner4472
    @willreasoner4472 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People who watched this video still all missed the point and they’re just like “Oh, I love monopoly! Charles Darrow was definitely the man who invented that”
    Can the world please just end already

    • @mclohan
      @mclohan ปีที่แล้ว

      I learned something new! But yea people will believe whatever they want unfortunately.
      Anyway I just came to see if her version had a monocle because there’s been a bunch of people arguing over whether he ever had one or not! Like parallel universe/timelines conspiracies

  • @mypointofblue5260
    @mypointofblue5260 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting history! Thanks for sharing!

  • @eggdescrambler
    @eggdescrambler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Laissez-failre capitalism" LOL Yah right. Railroad barrons were getting a big help from the govt. It certainly was not laissez-faire

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 ปีที่แล้ว

      That damn government always getting in the way of businesses trying to freely maximize their profit through competitive advantage over others in a near zero sum game of assured poverty, slavery, war and destruction of life support systems on Earth.

  • @bivicbc
    @bivicbc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Henry George idea was to give all citizens a share from Land Value Tax. Mentioned by Guy Standing in his book Basic Income and How to Make it Happen.

  • @IngridGamedev
    @IngridGamedev 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video and explanation! More people needs to know about thre truth!

  • @carissakaisen5264
    @carissakaisen5264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    SO WHATS WITH THE MONICLE?
    HMM

    • @CallmeaFool
      @CallmeaFool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It prob wasn’t made at the time.

    • @abztrakt7071
      @abztrakt7071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carissa many many ppl VIVIDLY remember him always having a monocle, I remember even as a kid he has a monocle, I woke up on the 16th June 2016 and suddenly history says he never had one, depaite I remember he did. NOT misremembering, it's a mandela effect

    • @jewelznmore
      @jewelznmore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abztrakt7071 YESS and there’s more!

    • @victorabdelmalek7530
      @victorabdelmalek7530 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mandela effect

  • @anthonyperno1348
    @anthonyperno1348 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No monocle!

  • @katejean7899
    @katejean7899 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very informative 💎💎💎

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      @katejean7899 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @johnsnow5534
    @johnsnow5534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    She was an anti-monopolist, not an anti-capitalist.

    • @alexanderjavier5237
      @alexanderjavier5237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly I think that’s what people confuse all the time I agree with free market capitalism not monopolies

    • @aestheticbeatz5700
      @aestheticbeatz5700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Capitalism is monopoly.

    • @aestheticbeatz5700
      @aestheticbeatz5700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexanderjavier5237 what the fuck do you think happens in a free market?...monopolies are apart of free market capitalism dumb shit. Don't be stupid. It's reality its already happened, it's been getting worse for years. Bro you are on the wrong side, if you're anti-monopoly.

    • @johnsnow5534
      @johnsnow5534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aestheticbeatz5700 false

    • @alexanderjavier5237
      @alexanderjavier5237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aestheticbeatz5700 false and also brush up on the language low life you’re not looking to smart aside from being wrong already.

  • @xavierarredondo5489
    @xavierarredondo5489 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang it Marty you changed the time-line. We need to go back to 1955!

  • @he-pu5rr
    @he-pu5rr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Amazing video, well done!!!!

  • @athenaa23
    @athenaa23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they monopolized monopoly :(

  • @zoomed66
    @zoomed66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best players are always the greedy ones.

    • @KNIGHT-TEMPLARS-888
      @KNIGHT-TEMPLARS-888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best players are always Capitalist mentally 🇺🇸

  • @JamieRoss-g1e
    @JamieRoss-g1e หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:53 false everyone was getting richer. Which led to increase in population because they weren't starving on the farms.

    • @MrCrabguy
      @MrCrabguy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah and many of the ”robber barons” of the gilded age actually caused the prices of their respective products to fall significantly.

  • @Gilbertexbom21
    @Gilbertexbom21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great history! Tks!

  • @mytvwatchesmelol7287
    @mytvwatchesmelol7287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did anyone notice he had one looking Glass eye piece.

  • @paulaewaski7507
    @paulaewaski7507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I didn't know the history of the game until today know wonder I loved the game I used to play it by myself when I was little. It was invented by a woman.

    • @216-i6p
      @216-i6p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How do you play Monopoly by your self?

    • @trumpeter8201
      @trumpeter8201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Greyhound216 Durbauree It is possible I used to do it

  • @zirconium2014
    @zirconium2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanna know the other half of the game

  • @Sejes89
    @Sejes89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why do they make unfettered capitalism and greed sound like it's a thing of the past? Lol

    • @paulberaud-sudreau513
      @paulberaud-sudreau513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Help me please

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe they falsely hoped we had learned our lessons from that past, accepted that market capitalism was a structurally unsustainable and violent system and we had the technology to create abundance and freely ensure people's basic needs are met without labor-for-income exploitation and oppression - but we didn't.

  • @neinnein3972
    @neinnein3972 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice video but you really should have picked horror music instead. Because the second rule set just puts a twist on taxes in capitalism that would prevent booms and busts and the evergrowing suffering caused by them.
    Read about Henry George and why his economics book (!) sold millions (!) in 1879 (!). Read about the 18.6 year cycle and you will understand why "The Landlords Game / Monopoly" becoming a symbol for Predatory Capitalism is one of the biggest ironic jokes in human history.
    It is hidden in plain sight.

  • @TylerDurden42069
    @TylerDurden42069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I like how capitalism wins again

    • @Liam-pm5hp
      @Liam-pm5hp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didnt like it and you wouldnt too if you grow up

    • @justing1810
      @justing1810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Capitalism always wins in the end. It rewards value creation.

    • @TylerDurden42069
      @TylerDurden42069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justing1810 truly

    • @verZatile_bmotp
      @verZatile_bmotp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Capitalism is slavery on steroids.
      1. It forces you to work for food, water and shelter (basic human needs).
      Tell your kids they can not get food, water or shelter until they get a job and they will lock you up. (Physical Slavery and Mental Slavery)
      2. Capitalism also mines you for your creativity then calls it their own.
      It's called business. Work 50 years for a drug company to cure cancer... Guess what, that's the drug companies cure not yours! (Creative/Mental Slavery)
      But since you and the rest of us are born into this system we are indoctrinated, programmed. groomed to believe that this is the how life is, this is the best we can do.
      (Chattel Slavery - Your parents were indoctrinated into the system then you were automatically born a slave by default)
      So you being happy that "capitalism wins again" is an enslaved human being not realizing that they are enslaved. But that is the point of capitalism. So... yes capitalism wins again

    • @tuneteenth
      @tuneteenth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justing1810this is irony

  • @mccauleywilson3062
    @mccauleywilson3062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I KNOW somebody has time traveled cuz I know for a FACT that the monopoly guy had a monicle

    • @CallmeaFool
      @CallmeaFool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was prob removed but added back or it wasn’t made at the time

    • @jcblocka7477
      @jcblocka7477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He Never did, and you can't prove he did.

    • @miloiguessalt
      @miloiguessalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @CryptMan oh god its this person

    • @majorbombas
      @majorbombas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcblocka7477 real one didn't. Knock offs did. Confusion comes from that, since knockoffs were as popular as og.

    • @emubird2008
      @emubird2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to get the monopoly guy and the pringle guy mixed up

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your accent is better than Sherlock Holmes :)

  • @alfali2320
    @alfali2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always win at monopoly

  • @guyonthenet2000
    @guyonthenet2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That one dude has been dethroned

  • @Gods7000YearTimeline-space
    @Gods7000YearTimeline-space 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why does your animated Monopoly Man have a monocle?

    • @KiffJRockka
      @KiffJRockka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because he used to have one, in the early 90s I played monopoly every wednesday at a friends' house (little tournaments of different board games), and he did have a monocle. Probably just the aliens who are doing stuff on this planet that makes our reality change 🤣 Same with britney spears having that clip in red suit wearing a microphone and earpiece, but when you look it up now you won't find any mic or earpiece in that clip, or the fact she wore a braid skirt in her first clip (baby hit me one more time) but if you look it up now it's a black skirt which doesnt even make sense in a school back then.

  • @VANRICKELEN
    @VANRICKELEN ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love free markets and capitalism. Let the people be free, we will always take care of the old, the feeble, the poor, the children, the minorities, the immigrates, and support the people who make their own way. Capitalism is the fairest, most just, most equate system ever invented. Glory to the people who make their own way and provide for others.

  • @bobberkins2282
    @bobberkins2282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tx :)

  • @monicaa6345
    @monicaa6345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of course it was a woman the invented the game but credit was stolen from her!!!

    • @VANRICKELEN
      @VANRICKELEN ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol they all so always stupid

  • @zacharyoliver5332
    @zacharyoliver5332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's not how you pronounce "patient".

    • @brendabuccat6694
      @brendabuccat6694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      she said
      patent
      nor patient.

    • @CallmeaFool
      @CallmeaFool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s patent stop trying to sound smart

  • @mahmutcelalmert
    @mahmutcelalmert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elizabeth Magie, the inventor who inspired by Henry George, 1903
    Charles Darrow, reinventor and seller to
    Parker Brothers 1932-1935

  • @scratch3406
    @scratch3406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This game’s success highlights the beauty of capitalism

    • @elliott257
      @elliott257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Socialism is when no board games

    • @diazkohen2149
      @diazkohen2149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elliott257 And Communism is when evil Stalin doesn't let you play😎

    • @tuneteenth
      @tuneteenth ปีที่แล้ว

      Success for everyone but the creator. Good Capitalism!

  • @islanddoggear
    @islanddoggear ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She sounds like she wasn’t very good at her own game, or at the game of capitalism. She could have been rich.

  • @dengeki2005
    @dengeki2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm the only one who commented.

  • @paulberaud-sudreau513
    @paulberaud-sudreau513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Help please

  • @novelenterprise
    @novelenterprise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not to be funny but she literally went against her own beliefs by selling out and allowing herself to be monopolized

  • @Persona1996
    @Persona1996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Lizzie was a Communist

  • @mjekov
    @mjekov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pitfalls of capitalism. What a nonsense..

  • @JB-fk5oq
    @JB-fk5oq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every bit of this is ironic. Anti capitalist creates monopoly. Then sold it for $500. The buyer then millions, 😂