Bro doesn't know the struggle that we all went through following this thing weekly praying for our favorite subtle moments to be given the spotlight and beauty they deserved and it was so stale every single week.
I decided to watch the remake because a gacha game I play had a collab for it, and I have a shounen jump magazine with a chapter of Shaman King in it, but had no idea what exactly was going on. Over all, I enjoyed the show. I think I remember thinking that the still-frames with the shaking was annoying but I'm not completely sure.... But it was mostly enjoyable for me, I didn't feel like the pacing was that bad.
For me I had the opposite issue with pacing. It felt like they all wouldn’t stop talking. They would monologue their whole abilities for five minutes, attack for thirty seconds, and stand still and talk for another ten. I am not a fan of the remake…
I really like this video. As a SK fan I totally agree with you. Unfortunately the main issue I found in this reboot is that Studio Bridge didn't really capture the soul of this manga, and it's a shame because SK isn't a typical battle shonen like the others but it focuses more on character development and philosophy. I hope they at least do justice on SK Flowers. Anyway, keep up the good work and I hope to see more SK content from you in the future!
The final Faust fight was downright offensive. I don't know if it was the same in the manga, but having Faust and his opponent breaking out into singing and instead of showing their fight, it cuts to the rest of the gang looking up in shock and then it cuts right back to Faust falling on the floor, dead, was one of the biggest disrespects given to an anime character.
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 look I was super excited for the anime but it just didn't do it for me. I'm not even saying it's bad, just a bit disappointing personally.
The sheer amount of corner cutting in this anime smfh like i get animators get paid dogshit but don't fucking make it if you're not willing to put in the effort
Man, I was so hyped for this remake. Shaman King was easily one of my favorite shows growing up, and it always urked me that the original ended they way it did. So when they announced a remake that more closely follows the manga, I was _sold._ Needless to say, once I started watching, that hype didn't last long.
I remember the original being very decompressed and this one had the opposite problem. Like there were some scenes that were supposed to hit hard on an emotional level, but the characters were never established well enough for any emotional impact. And then the whole Matamune and Ana backstory felt like filler anyway.
As per usual, aside from a select few releases, every am me Netflix touches is ruined. Jojo wasn't bad, part 6 was well paced and animated, aside from the whole we are only dropping this in parts instead of week to week like normal
Who ever they got to sub Part 6 from the second season though either had 1 week to sub the whole season or doesn't understand Japanese well enough. The sub translations were *heinous* . I had to download fansubs for the first time in like 15 years.
@@XxDigitalDaftPunkxX all of netflix subs are like that , i was watching kengan asura with subs in my native language witha friend and had to say every second sentence "thats not what he said" lmao. Or try to watch cyberpunk edgerunners with JP dub and english sub , literally unwatchable.
@@mateuszmierzejewski1355 I want to say that they might have just done the lazy thing and used the dub script for the subs but that would be incredibly stupid.
Bro I feel like the original adaptation was gold, I remember going out of my way to watch it every Saturday when I was younger, and I finished it that way!
Shaman King was my favorite show as a kid and I was so hyped for this remake but it disappointed me in so many levels. Couldn't even go on after Ren fought his dad. No animations, just glory shots. No reason to watch that show over reading the manga
i think the moment i realized the new anime wasnt gonna pop off was when yoh does spirit merge for the first time, and what was once a masterful arcing motion tracked by a camera move was now a lazy smash cut followed by a zoom. That and the massively downgraded generic art style. wholesale deletion of characters, and the complete lack of any breathing room or charcter downtime between arcs. mark another one down for "Just follow the manga!!111" not always being the answer.
Man I love the old Shaman king anime... sure it had fillers, but even they made sense in the story for the most part. They also had a lot of comedic value. also are we not going to mention that the studio promised at LEAST 150 episodes and a long running show for the remake? They should have been fucking sued for false marketing
I ain't gonna like, hearing the original OP when Yoh was fighting Silva and learns how to Oversoul... I definitely cried for a bit. The original Shaman King anime was such a a huge part of my childhood.
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 when did he say he was a manga purist why are you so upset? Just because someone doesn't like an anime doesn't mean there a manga purist
My only issues with this remake were that it was way too rushed, especially at the start (seriously, why did they think 300 chapters 52 eps was a good idea) and there was no animation. It's like Record of Ragnarök, they focused on making it look pretty and forgot that characters are supposed to move and be animated (hence why it's an anime). But nonetheless, I still enjoyed it, just Shaman King really deserved so much better
If there's one thing the original adaptation did better (besides having more movement and better animation) it's the opening theme songs, seriously Over Soul, and Northern Lights are really great songs, way better than the openings from the 2021 adaptation
If you can read all of this, I appreciate it. Thank you. Someone who actually admits that Shaman King 2021 was a bad anime. The amount of fanboys constantly saying "Be thankful they even considered making a reboot" was infuriating at the time. I love Shaman King. I'm not expecting an A+ masterpiece, but you should always expect a good conditioned product when being given to you. If you're being gifted something from someone you respect (parent, lover, whoever) and it turns out to be in poor condition or just buggy, you can be thankful, but you know you don't want it and you're more likely to convince them to get their money back from it. The new remake cut out multiple important parts and the directors admitted to shortening it a lot because they thought fans/newcomers wouldn't have the patience to understand it on Netflix. Imagine if they rushed Hunter X Hunter 2011. It was clear made by a team that didn't understand the appeal of the original, like DB Super. What makes it even more disrespectful is that another obscure classic series, Trigun, had a reboot as well, and it was leagues better than the original and handled way better than this anime.
I feel the same about kengan ashura on netflix. Missing characters, shortened flashbacks, missing scenes. Worse translations at certian points. Over time I think the 3d animation got better but its a bad adaptation for kengan fans. The kengan manga is better but my love for the series makes the anime unwatchable at times. I still like (tolerate) it. I think some of the animation and presentation choices are interesting at points and im thankful this adaptation released at all because I discovered a manga I genuinly love.
This video just popped up and I'm actually watching the Netflix version.. Currently on episode 48. It's not as bad as I thought it would be so far.. Awesome video, keep up the great work!
@@keyblademasterclark Yeah… But it came down to an original ending anyways cause the manga wasn’t finished at that time. Same as shaman king, but at least for me Zatch Bell was way better and is still pretty underrated for how good it was. Ps: Zatch Bell 2 came out not a long time ago. It really hit me by surprise a sequel after 15 years…
When I heard that Sebastian Arcelus wasn't reprising his role as Yoh in the English dub of the remake, I knew I was never going to love it. For me he was the perfect casting and absolutely smashed the role as Yoh, being as iconic as Sean Schemmel as Goku in my eyes. Apparently he got a lot of stick for the original dubbing at the time (which is insane because he was great in it), but I can understand why that might have made him not want to come back.
two things 1- never put someone in the same light as that awful garbage person sean 2- the 4Kids voice for Yoh stopped doing voice acting work and does broadway
This might trigger some people but I actually preferred the anime original ending of the first anime. They don't have to kill Hao but I think they needed to beat him after all that training and buildup and gathering all the spirits. As is it feels like it was all for nothing. Felt really anticlimactic is what I'm getting at. Also bringing characters back to life left and right like we're in fucking Dragon Ball didn't sit right with me either.
Same...once when I decided to google the Manga ending... I remembering seeing them in space and some kinda alien looking shit and Hao still kicking and I'm like... Nahhh I'm good I should stick to the anime
@@RAZORlukic Only thing I really liked in the remake was the Anna/Yoh backstory and some Jeanne moments. But she was pretty cool in the original anime too with at least a viable plan to stop Hao. Also I think the manga ending was baiting a sequel all along. I don't think it was meant to be the final conclusive ending.
I've only watched this adaptation so I don't know if this translates over to the manga but my biggest complaint with Shaman King is how useless most things feel. Sure, shounen be dammned, it's a fighting manga with power scaling, but Shaman King is just a straight line of power. What I mean is that every form that we are introduced to is a straight upgrade and due to the wack pacing it feels like 90% of the things we are shown are worthless, weapon variants? Worthless. Infusing yourself? Worthless. And this combined with the lacking action makes it feel like an rpg where you have one cool move that just solves the problem and after a couple of fights there's a power boost and after enough boosts you get a new ability to replace the old one with. I distinctly remember watching purple carrot hair go up against a guy who's whole gimmick was that he could neutralize attacks and I thought to myself "Wait is Purple Carrot Hair going to actually strategize and go back a form to a version which didn't rely on lighting and couldn't be negated?" And then he proceeded to lighting harder, it really felt like there was no strategy at any point and every fight was brute forcing your way until the power system leaned in your favor. I don't know how the original was with it's fights but I feel like it's safe to assume that it was at least better presented
Manga reader here, up to chapter 195 out of a 300 chapter series so I've read most of it. Yeah its not really better better in the manga. Shaman King is one of those series where its drawn by a guy who doesn't really have an idea of how handle good action scenes. Aside from everything you already said, the actual choreography is very bland and stilted, where its basically just them green-screen their attacks as in pose and call out an attack name. The fights are just kind of bad in general for this series.
4kids shaman king wasnt perfect but by god was it good, I watched the show in college and got flooded with nostalgia hearing all the voice actors (Atum/Mewtwo voice actor - Silva, Goku voice actor - Amidamaru & Ryu, Misty va - Pilica, Kaiba/Brock va - Marco, Ash va - Jeane, Amy Rose va - Ana, etc.) the censorship does tone down some parts but when I checked the japanese version the music was lacking which gave the show a lot of personality in the english version
Netflix should do shaman king seasonal like 13 or 24 episode every season to fix the pacing and make more moving animation but sadly well its too late now we need a remake of a remake imagine studio mappa or ufoltable animate shaman king by seasonal
"The whole show is just a tournament arc" Sold ill watch also suggest any other anime that are like that. Also can you do a video on Zach Bell it feels like shaman king but better imo
Something important to say about bad anime adaptations is that many of them are made under a bad direction or perception on what an anime should be. An adaptation is transformative it needs to be (as redundant as it is) adaptative to the medium is going to be portrayed, that means that there are things that work on paper that doesn't work in animation and vice versa, that being said it looks like that the production staff realized how to make action scenes until the very end of the anime.
😂😂 I'm so happy I watched this. This got me laughing! To be honest I was kind of blinded by the Shaman King sasuga(?). So I didn't really notice all the problems with the movement of the art. It looked pretty and at least it was moving at all sooo..... It looked like a good anime to me.😅 I mean sure there was a whole bunch of other/better stuff I've seen, and I wish it could have been different, but it was great because of my experience with the anime. No matter what anyone may say 😇
I wanted this series to come back in the limelight so badly but unfortunately it didn't take off ... and it will never take off considering this is the second anime adaptation of the series and will probably not be another one coming. The next season and also part of the story is not that great as the first part IMO and what's worse is that they are going to blitz through the chapters the same way as before.
Tokyo Ghoul Fans: So they fucked up your anime too Shaman King: Sure did TFW I’m both a Tokyo Ghoul Stan and a Shaman King fan like damn can’t catch a w
I fell asleep three times trying to watch it on netflix, I could not for the love of god give a dam for it as my first contact with this series. But k, amma read the manga then, I really want to get into shaman king just for the sake of it. I just thoght that the remake was the better version (cuz, why wouldn't it be?), I agree on most of the video, the stand still action shots and how the pacing is lighning fast, you end up not really caring/paying attention to it.
TL;WR: the new shaman king anime has many aspects that can get fucked, but for me a lot of them are from the manga itself. I just don't think it was that good once the mangaka's own misanthropy and contempt for his readers started to bleed into the writing. It feels like he wanted to end it way before they even got to the patch village. I liked, like, only a couple things in this show. The moment I dropped it was when horo horo was once again the "idiot character screaming out questions in shock so bare-ass obvious shit can be explained to the 10 year-olds this show thinks are watching it" about hao joining them at the onsen. I already didn't like the moronic excuse used to give them power boosts since you'd think death is a bit more important than just a hype-adoring claron stapler from dbz in a show where half the cast is the backup from the afterlife (explain to me how in the seven hells there was any difference between shaman and guardian GHOST in the afterlife? Surely they were both ghosts), but the fact that the show just couldn't let some of its best elements lay and had to be so fucking loud about them (coughed up a lung laughing at the "jet plane made with ancient patch rituals" joke until they did that same screeching idiot gag with horohoro and ren because then I felt insulted). Hell, its best bits I really liked, aside from lyserg not being a piece of shit towards morphine for no adequate reason, were shit it just let lie onstead of dwelling on, like mikihisa's swimming shorts fight with team hana-gumi or the almost jojo-esque fight between luchist and marco. Also, team the Ren's fight with that samsara bat-guy who could cancel oversouls was the biggest middle-finger towards my intelligence. I got all excited that they would do that soul union thing since that can't be cancelled and use the physical amp to beat the snot outta the guy, showing that even old skills have their place and it was just such a good opportunity but nope, ren's kung fu was stronger than the enemy's kung fu so he won, strategy and narrative callbacks be damned. Also fuck that ending on all fours with a rusted pipe coated in molten wax. The original, cliche though it was, was way more satisfying. Get that misanthropic shit outta my face.
"the ending can get fucked and makes no sense" what do you think shaman king is about if you had trouble understanding the ending that's explained to you in episode 1 and then several more times before the end?
Much text, the new anime was more canon to it's manga, but the rhythm was fast, the animation was poor, like high quality screenshots, without movement, the music isn't memorable like the other adaptation. Obviously the manga is dark, but 2021 made it boring and not impactful.
It’s basically colored manga lmao. Also, I remember quite liking the original but dropped off… and I kinda hate the new one. The dub cast isn’t good or anything. Also, wtf is with Japan not giving us great English OPs anymore?! Because the original had one of the better ones, tbh.
@@christopherelliott4740 Oh, hell no. If you want that bullshit, there are plenty of other shonen series. The charm of the manga and remake anime is that Hao actually becomes Shaman King.
@@DarkAdonisVyers All that training and buildup and gathering up all the spirits just so nobody could even touch him still felt very anticlimactic. I like the original version where Hao getting angry is what makes him weaker and beatable despite having a much higher power level. Ties back to what we learned in the early parts of the show.
I had gotten into Shaman King only just a couple years ago but it was the unfinished Shonen Jump run, so I was really looking forward to seeing the true ending this way... This wasn't it tho
The 2021 adaptation looked pretty and was for the most point, manga accurate but at the end of the day I’d place it on par with the OG anime due to how rushed and honestly soulless the characters came off (esp early on) due to said rushing. The pre-Ren episodes spliced multiple separate chapters that setup and established who Yoh, Manta and Amidamaru were about and their friendship. So anime only watchers don’t get to see or get why they’re all so close. Despite it’s changes, OG anime stomps earlier on due to how they maintain this but even enhance it with additional silly moments. The characters were full of life. The reboot also failed to animate many of the side stories. Something many SK fans thought they were gonna do since many of them added context to character motivations or outright would be called back to in the last sets of chapters in the manga. Specifically Hao’s little demon friend Ohachiyo. I imagined many anime onlys going “who da fuck is that?!” Despite going at breakneck speed, the 2021 anime was manga accurate at the later on better than the OG’s latter half (ChocoLove’s introduction and first major fight) at that point which was just downright disrespectful. Lyserg fan btw so, yeah, was never a fan of the later half of the original anime.
“He probably does weed” How to know if someone doesn’t smoke 😂😂 Nice vid tho bro I agree with you 100%. I watched the Netflix jownt a few months ago and never finished it. Made me wana rewatch fighting foodons
It might seem like I’m glazing the manga but even I have to admit it has flaws. Like the fights lasting too long (especially the Faust fight) and the art getting really bad near the end. It’s cool if you prefer the anime.
as soon as i heard the shaman king anime was being put on netflix i knew it was joever
Joever and bidone
Not everything that comes to netflix is bad.
@@imsentinelprime9279 only 99% of it
@@AfrothePuffslmao it ain't Netflix fault it's the anime studio
Bro doesn't know the struggle that we all went through following this thing weekly praying for our favorite subtle moments to be given the spotlight and beauty they deserved and it was so stale every single week.
I decided to watch the remake because a gacha game I play had a collab for it, and I have a shounen jump magazine with a chapter of Shaman King in it, but had no idea what exactly was going on. Over all, I enjoyed the show. I think I remember thinking that the still-frames with the shaking was annoying but I'm not completely sure.... But it was mostly enjoyable for me, I didn't feel like the pacing was that bad.
For me I had the opposite issue with pacing. It felt like they all wouldn’t stop talking. They would monologue their whole abilities for five minutes, attack for thirty seconds, and stand still and talk for another ten. I am not a fan of the remake…
Sh*tflix ruined everything.
I really like this video. As a SK fan I totally agree with you. Unfortunately the main issue I found in this reboot is that Studio Bridge didn't really capture the soul of this manga, and it's a shame because SK isn't a typical battle shonen like the others but it focuses more on character development and philosophy. I hope they at least do justice on SK Flowers. Anyway, keep up the good work and I hope to see more SK content from you in the future!
Shaman king is PEAK you cant change my mind
The final Faust fight was downright offensive. I don't know if it was the same in the manga, but having Faust and his opponent breaking out into singing and instead of showing their fight, it cuts to the rest of the gang looking up in shock and then it cuts right back to Faust falling on the floor, dead, was one of the biggest disrespects given to an anime character.
Yeah that new remake was very disappointing especially when I compare it to the vibes of the original
Okay I'm a huge fan of the manga and I decided to drop the anime mid way so I didn't see the final episodes but holy sh*t 2:25 this looks so good wtf?
The Manga fanbase remains infested with toxic anime-hating purists I see.
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 look I was super excited for the anime but it just didn't do it for me. I'm not even saying it's bad, just a bit disappointing personally.
@@Basher.G Eh ok whatever lol.
The sheer amount of corner cutting in this anime smfh like i get animators get paid dogshit but don't fucking make it if you're not willing to put in the effort
you think the animators were the ones making the decisions to cut corners?
Man, I was so hyped for this remake. Shaman King was easily one of my favorite shows growing up, and it always urked me that the original ended they way it did. So when they announced a remake that more closely follows the manga, I was _sold._ Needless to say, once I started watching, that hype didn't last long.
I remember the original being very decompressed and this one had the opposite problem. Like there were some scenes that were supposed to hit hard on an emotional level, but the characters were never established well enough for any emotional impact. And then the whole Matamune and Ana backstory felt like filler anyway.
As per usual, aside from a select few releases, every am me Netflix touches is ruined. Jojo wasn't bad, part 6 was well paced and animated, aside from the whole we are only dropping this in parts instead of week to week like normal
i mean the pacing may have been good if the time between parts wasnt like 9 months sometimes lmao.
Who ever they got to sub Part 6 from the second season though either had 1 week to sub the whole season or doesn't understand Japanese well enough. The sub translations were *heinous* . I had to download fansubs for the first time in like 15 years.
@@XxDigitalDaftPunkxX all of netflix subs are like that , i was watching kengan asura with subs in my native language witha friend and had to say every second sentence "thats not what he said" lmao.
Or try to watch cyberpunk edgerunners with JP dub and english sub , literally unwatchable.
@@mateuszmierzejewski1355 I want to say that they might have just done the lazy thing and used the dub script for the subs but that would be incredibly stupid.
@@XxDigitalDaftPunkxX that they did.
Going from the 4kids dub to this is literal whiplash. it's like they put in 5-7 episodes into ONE episode. yall cant tell me Sonic wasnt the director
Bro I feel like the original adaptation was gold, I remember going out of my way to watch it every Saturday when I was younger, and I finished it that way!
Shaman King was my favorite show as a kid and I was so hyped for this remake but it disappointed me in so many levels. Couldn't even go on after Ren fought his dad. No animations, just glory shots. No reason to watch that show over reading the manga
i think the moment i realized the new anime wasnt gonna pop off was when yoh does spirit merge for the first time, and what was once a masterful arcing motion tracked by a camera move was now a lazy smash cut followed by a zoom.
That and the massively downgraded generic art style. wholesale deletion of characters, and the complete lack of any breathing room or charcter downtime between arcs. mark another one down for "Just follow the manga!!111" not always being the answer.
Man I love the old Shaman king anime... sure it had fillers, but even they made sense in the story for the most part. They also had a lot of comedic value.
also are we not going to mention that the studio promised at LEAST 150 episodes and a long running show for the remake?
They should have been fucking sued for false marketing
Out of curiosity... have you read Karakuridôji Ultimo, by chance? It just so happens to be co-authored by Hiroyuki Takei and the late Stan Lee.
This literally feels like it was animated by the people who did Records of Ragnarok and that's not a good thing. 💀💀
I ain't gonna like, hearing the original OP when Yoh was fighting Silva and learns how to Oversoul... I definitely cried for a bit. The original Shaman King anime was such a a huge part of my childhood.
Bruh i got to agree. This anime was so rushed. It look pretty and then here some good animation. I ws watching then i was like did i miss episode.
I'm sorry manga purist, I didn't get that.
Can you explain which Shaman King anime you hated either the original or the remake about everything? lol.
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 remake i am talking orignal is loved but got problems.
I am not manga purist. Just saying it rushed
I don't hate 2021. Just saying it was rushed.
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 when did he say he was a manga purist why are you so upset? Just because someone doesn't like an anime doesn't mean there a manga purist
My only issues with this remake were that it was way too rushed, especially at the start (seriously, why did they think 300 chapters 52 eps was a good idea) and there was no animation. It's like Record of Ragnarök, they focused on making it look pretty and forgot that characters are supposed to move and be animated (hence why it's an anime). But nonetheless, I still enjoyed it, just Shaman King really deserved so much better
Still images shaking is something that I can enjoy if its done right, but goddamn actually use animation sometimes.
Not like big fan of series but it definetly derserve more.
What's that theme being played at 2:44
The second Japanese opening
If there's one thing the original adaptation did better (besides having more movement and better animation) it's the opening theme songs, seriously Over Soul, and Northern Lights are really great songs, way better than the openings from the 2021 adaptation
You don't have to say it, i'll say it for you. The original was a masterpiece.
Master piece...maybe the original Manga.
@@andrewacacia9851 no..the anime..
If you can read all of this, I appreciate it.
Thank you. Someone who actually admits that Shaman King 2021 was a bad anime. The amount of fanboys constantly saying "Be thankful they even considered making a reboot" was infuriating at the time. I love Shaman King. I'm not expecting an A+ masterpiece, but you should always expect a good conditioned product when being given to you. If you're being gifted something from someone you respect (parent, lover, whoever) and it turns out to be in poor condition or just buggy, you can be thankful, but you know you don't want it and you're more likely to convince them to get their money back from it. The new remake cut out multiple important parts and the directors admitted to shortening it a lot because they thought fans/newcomers wouldn't have the patience to understand it on Netflix. Imagine if they rushed Hunter X Hunter 2011. It was clear made by a team that didn't understand the appeal of the original, like DB Super. What makes it even more disrespectful is that another obscure classic series, Trigun, had a reboot as well, and it was leagues better than the original and handled way better than this anime.
I feel the same about kengan ashura on netflix. Missing characters, shortened flashbacks, missing scenes. Worse translations at certian points. Over time I think the 3d animation got better but its a bad adaptation for kengan fans. The kengan manga is better but my love for the series makes the anime unwatchable at times. I still like (tolerate) it. I think some of the animation and presentation choices are interesting at points and im thankful this adaptation released at all because I discovered a manga I genuinly love.
This video just popped up and I'm actually watching the Netflix version.. Currently on episode 48. It's not as bad as I thought it would be so far.. Awesome video, keep up the great work!
shit just skips and jumps everywhere, and not even animated properly my hype died instantly
Duuude! There are some animes getting knocked out so dirty. Prison School ended shit! Terraformars going Shonen by season 2, oh boy
i just hope that eventually they do this for Zatch Bell... But looking how this went it just honestly scares me.
I never got to finish that show! Did Cartoon Network drop it before it finished?
@@keyblademasterclark Yeah… But it came down to an original ending anyways cause the manga wasn’t finished at that time.
Same as shaman king, but at least for me Zatch Bell was way better and is still pretty underrated for how good it was.
Ps: Zatch Bell 2 came out not a long time ago. It really hit me by surprise a sequel after 15 years…
When I heard that Sebastian Arcelus wasn't reprising his role as Yoh in the English dub of the remake, I knew I was never going to love it.
For me he was the perfect casting and absolutely smashed the role as Yoh, being as iconic as Sean Schemmel as Goku in my eyes. Apparently he got a lot of stick for the original dubbing at the time (which is insane because he was great in it), but I can understand why that might have made him not want to come back.
two things
1- never put someone in the same light as that awful garbage person sean
2- the 4Kids voice for Yoh stopped doing voice acting work and does broadway
This might trigger some people but I actually preferred the anime original ending of the first anime. They don't have to kill Hao but I think they needed to beat him after all that training and buildup and gathering all the spirits. As is it feels like it was all for nothing. Felt really anticlimactic is what I'm getting at.
Also bringing characters back to life left and right like we're in fucking Dragon Ball didn't sit right with me either.
Also Hao getting angry which made him weaker and beatable also ties into the early parts of the series. That was really well handled imo.
Same...once when I decided to google the Manga ending... I remembering seeing them in space and some kinda alien looking shit and Hao still kicking and I'm like... Nahhh I'm good I should stick to the anime
@@RAZORlukic Only thing I really liked in the remake was the Anna/Yoh backstory and some Jeanne moments. But she was pretty cool in the original anime too with at least a viable plan to stop Hao.
Also I think the manga ending was baiting a sequel all along. I don't think it was meant to be the final conclusive ending.
I've only watched this adaptation so I don't know if this translates over to the manga but my biggest complaint with Shaman King is how useless most things feel. Sure, shounen be dammned, it's a fighting manga with power scaling, but Shaman King is just a straight line of power. What I mean is that every form that we are introduced to is a straight upgrade and due to the wack pacing it feels like 90% of the things we are shown are worthless, weapon variants? Worthless. Infusing yourself? Worthless. And this combined with the lacking action makes it feel like an rpg where you have one cool move that just solves the problem and after a couple of fights there's a power boost and after enough boosts you get a new ability to replace the old one with.
I distinctly remember watching purple carrot hair go up against a guy who's whole gimmick was that he could neutralize attacks and I thought to myself "Wait is Purple Carrot Hair going to actually strategize and go back a form to a version which didn't rely on lighting and couldn't be negated?" And then he proceeded to lighting harder, it really felt like there was no strategy at any point and every fight was brute forcing your way until the power system leaned in your favor. I don't know how the original was with it's fights but I feel like it's safe to assume that it was at least better presented
What's that you're immune to my attacks?!?!?! I'll just have to HIT. YOU. HARDER! XD
Manga reader here, up to chapter 195 out of a 300 chapter series so I've read most of it. Yeah its not really better better in the manga. Shaman King is one of those series where its drawn by a guy who doesn't really have an idea of how handle good action scenes. Aside from everything you already said, the actual choreography is very bland and stilted, where its basically just them green-screen their attacks as in pose and call out an attack name. The fights are just kind of bad in general for this series.
So who animated this? QueenBee?
Yo what the fck
Lmao. Fair enough.
Nah you're foul for this☠
Studio bridge
Heh.
4kids shaman king wasnt perfect but by god was it good, I watched the show in college and got flooded with nostalgia hearing all the voice actors (Atum/Mewtwo voice actor - Silva, Goku voice actor - Amidamaru & Ryu, Misty va - Pilica, Kaiba/Brock va - Marco, Ash va - Jeane, Amy Rose va - Ana, etc.) the censorship does tone down some parts but when I checked the japanese version the music was lacking which gave the show a lot of personality in the english version
The Netflix Anime may be meh but we can all agree that ost was nothing short of 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯👏👏👏
Eh.... it sounded like every generic action anime soundtrack. Nothing remarkable.
Ah, my conspiracy that this anime was pumped out yo get to the sewuel stuff becomes slightly confirmed with the sequel being adapted.
Netflix should do shaman king seasonal like 13 or 24 episode every season to fix the pacing and make more moving animation but sadly well its too late now we need a remake of a remake imagine studio mappa or ufoltable animate shaman king by seasonal
"The whole show is just a tournament arc" Sold ill watch also suggest any other anime that are like that. Also can you do a video on Zach Bell it feels like shaman king but better imo
Something important to say about bad anime adaptations is that many of them are made under a bad direction or perception on what an anime should be. An adaptation is transformative it needs to be (as redundant as it is) adaptative to the medium is going to be portrayed, that means that there are things that work on paper that doesn't work in animation and vice versa, that being said it looks like that the production staff realized how to make action scenes until the very end of the anime.
😂😂 I'm so happy I watched this. This got me laughing!
To be honest I was kind of blinded by the Shaman King sasuga(?). So I didn't really notice all the problems with the movement of the art. It looked pretty and at least it was moving at all sooo..... It looked like a good anime to me.😅
I mean sure there was a whole bunch of other/better stuff I've seen, and I wish it could have been different, but it was great because of my experience with the anime. No matter what anyone may say 😇
AAAA SHAMAN KING I LOVEEEE SHAMAN KING!!!
I wanted this series to come back in the limelight so badly but unfortunately it didn't take off ... and it will never take off considering this is the second anime adaptation of the series and will probably not be another one coming. The next season and also part of the story is not that great as the first part IMO and what's worse is that they are going to blitz through the chapters the same way as before.
Ayo Blue Exorcist coming back tho
we dont talk about jacco. lol
Imo Shaman King is super unpopular, people i talk to anywhere barely knows it or doesn’t even know it at all but it’s a well written story
Tokyo Ghoul Fans: So they fucked up your anime too
Shaman King: Sure did
TFW I’m both a Tokyo Ghoul Stan and a Shaman King fan like damn can’t catch a w
You can still catch a W mappa is reworking Tokyo ghoul soon
@@TheEkosamwhere the fuck you heard that from?
Honestly it just feels like they didn’t even want to make the show
subed just because of your prof pic
I fell asleep three times trying to watch it on netflix, I could not for the love of god give a dam for it as my first contact with this series. But k, amma read the manga then, I really want to get into shaman king just for the sake of it. I just thoght that the remake was the better version (cuz, why wouldn't it be?), I agree on most of the video, the stand still action shots and how the pacing is lighning fast, you end up not really caring/paying attention to it.
TL;WR: the new shaman king anime has many aspects that can get fucked, but for me a lot of them are from the manga itself. I just don't think it was that good once the mangaka's own misanthropy and contempt for his readers started to bleed into the writing. It feels like he wanted to end it way before they even got to the patch village.
I liked, like, only a couple things in this show. The moment I dropped it was when horo horo was once again the "idiot character screaming out questions in shock so bare-ass obvious shit can be explained to the 10 year-olds this show thinks are watching it" about hao joining them at the onsen.
I already didn't like the moronic excuse used to give them power boosts since you'd think death is a bit more important than just a hype-adoring claron stapler from dbz in a show where half the cast is the backup from the afterlife (explain to me how in the seven hells there was any difference between shaman and guardian GHOST in the afterlife? Surely they were both ghosts), but the fact that the show just couldn't let some of its best elements lay and had to be so fucking loud about them (coughed up a lung laughing at the "jet plane made with ancient patch rituals" joke until they did that same screeching idiot gag with horohoro and ren because then I felt insulted). Hell, its best bits I really liked, aside from lyserg not being a piece of shit towards morphine for no adequate reason, were shit it just let lie onstead of dwelling on, like mikihisa's swimming shorts fight with team hana-gumi or the almost jojo-esque fight between luchist and marco.
Also, team the Ren's fight with that samsara bat-guy who could cancel oversouls was the biggest middle-finger towards my intelligence. I got all excited that they would do that soul union thing since that can't be cancelled and use the physical amp to beat the snot outta the guy, showing that even old skills have their place and it was just such a good opportunity but nope, ren's kung fu was stronger than the enemy's kung fu so he won, strategy and narrative callbacks be damned.
Also fuck that ending on all fours with a rusted pipe coated in molten wax. The original, cliche though it was, was way more satisfying. Get that misanthropic shit outta my face.
"the ending can get fucked and makes no sense"
what do you think shaman king is about if you had trouble understanding the ending that's explained to you in episode 1 and then several more times before the end?
Much text, the new anime was more canon to it's manga, but the rhythm was fast, the animation was poor, like high quality screenshots, without movement, the music isn't memorable like the other adaptation. Obviously the manga is dark, but 2021 made it boring and not impactful.
Finally someone noticed it too!!!
It’s basically colored manga lmao. Also, I remember quite liking the original but dropped off… and I kinda hate the new one. The dub cast isn’t good or anything. Also, wtf is with Japan not giving us great English OPs anymore?! Because the original had one of the better ones, tbh.
The remake is superior because it triggered the anime-onlys of the first anime when Hao won the tournament.
Welcome to OPM S2
Tf why is that fake krillin getting included in a video definitely not about him
Season 2 was fine
I've never heard of this series before in my life
a sequel is getting created of shaman king anime
That reminds me of s1 ROR
OG Shaman King was better
Background music alone was a whole vibe
Original anime ending was sick
@@christopherelliott4740 Oh, hell no. If you want that bullshit, there are plenty of other shonen series. The charm of the manga and remake anime is that Hao actually becomes Shaman King.
It wasn't. Most of the anime is a filler. You think it's better because of the nostalgia.
@@DarkAdonisVyers All that training and buildup and gathering up all the spirits just so nobody could even touch him still felt very anticlimactic. I like the original version where Hao getting angry is what makes him weaker and beatable despite having a much higher power level. Ties back to what we learned in the early parts of the show.
The show is fine.
The original one was. The remake was bad.
@@yoder6162 No, the original sucked at the ending.
My dad really likes this anime
I had gotten into Shaman King only just a couple years ago but it was the unfinished Shonen Jump run, so I was really looking forward to seeing the true ending this way... This wasn't it tho
The 2021 adaptation looked pretty and was for the most point, manga accurate but at the end of the day I’d place it on par with the OG anime due to how rushed and honestly soulless the characters came off (esp early on) due to said rushing.
The pre-Ren episodes spliced multiple separate chapters that setup and established who Yoh, Manta and Amidamaru were about and their friendship. So anime only watchers don’t get to see or get why they’re all so close. Despite it’s changes, OG anime stomps earlier on due to how they maintain this but even enhance it with additional silly moments. The characters were full of life.
The reboot also failed to animate many of the side stories. Something many SK fans thought they were gonna do since many of them added context to character motivations or outright would be called back to in the last sets of chapters in the manga. Specifically Hao’s little demon friend Ohachiyo. I imagined many anime onlys going “who da fuck is that?!”
Despite going at breakneck speed, the 2021 anime was manga accurate at the later on better than the OG’s latter half (ChocoLove’s introduction and first major fight) at that point which was just downright disrespectful. Lyserg fan btw so, yeah, was never a fan of the later half of the original anime.
I love the shaman king manga.
“He probably does weed”
How to know if someone doesn’t smoke 😂😂
Nice vid tho bro I agree with you 100%. I watched the Netflix jownt a few months ago and never finished it. Made me wana rewatch fighting foodons
I got bored and just dropped it after episode 20
How tf u got that far?
Shaman king Italian opening
I thought the nigga on the thumbnail was sasuke
Goddamnit, now I can't unsee it, him and Part 1 Sasuke really do be rocking similar hairlines. 😭
Black hair anime boy with sword=sasuke.
@@arcanehumanoidtyphoon look at the shape of the hair, it screams sasuke
@@tinythings3979 lol
Netflix and Funimation, ruining Anime since forever.
Yep. They should stay away from anime. F*ck them.
Don’t know what Funimation had to do with and you should really be more mad at the animation Studio
Dooo record of ragnarok. Please like the manga is good but the animation aint it
I was excited to show my girlfriend and shut it off the second I heard yoh’s voice, why get a woman to voice him?
Ash literally had a woman voice him.
@@eb.3764 yea ash isn’t yoh. Yoh had a man voice him in the original release and it sounded much better
@@shnorkeythefourth4572 Yohs original english voice stopped doing voice acting and went on to do broadway.
@@eb.3764ong bro yoh sounds like trash in this new version
Naruto is also voiced by a woman.
5:30
"Moral of the Story: Read the Manga"
Not a good moral since I like both Anime and Manga but ok lol.
It might seem like I’m glazing the manga but even I have to admit it has flaws. Like the fights lasting too long (especially the Faust fight) and the art getting really bad near the end. It’s cool if you prefer the anime.
@@TreeGUYYYY alot fight don't happen should have . Some character not tgat developed.
I dropped it after episode 2, so incredibly boring!!!
Oh boy,
If that's bad, let me tell about Bleach: TWBW
TYBW IS NOT bad.
Are you insane??????
Troll.
bro is trolling confirmed
I'll say it. It lacks some aspects, such as Kubo having a chance not to rush the story. But it's not bad by any stretch of the imagination.
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