Here's one for you. #showtooltip Holy Shock /cast divine favor /cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][] Holy Shock /cast Gift of the Naaru Allows you to cast div favour into your holy shock. Honestly I never really use Divine Favour unless Im holy shocking on the move so to me it works well. Just start running and use the macro then follow up with FoL. Also can use Gift of hte Naaru if you are Drenai.
Since I don't have the previous upload to compare I can't praise all the tweaks edits you did, but adding a 1pt black outline on the white text helps with readability. I still would have changed the fonts personally, but the dedication and commitment to improve an insanity driven work deserves praise.
It´s the best guide there I ever seen, u explain it so clearly. I saw your solo heal and solo tank bane video to do mine for the first time. What do you think about Scarab Brooch?
Hey, thanks :) In patch 3.3.5a I don't think Scarab Brooch is really good for Holy Paladins anymore, since it's like a chineese version of Val'anyr. While the on-use Shielding effect looks good on paper, you sacrifice a whole Trinket slot, when most other level 80 Trinkets are better, because they either give way more Intellect or SP or some other useful effect. If you compare Scarab Brooch with Val'anyr, the latter also gives pretty decent Stats (SP+Haste+Crit) along with the effect and procs almost every 30s, while that Trinket has a 3min cooldown. I remember back in 2017 when we were progressing Sindragosa, which has constant raid damage, I was playing around with this Brooch, but found out it was pretty bad. While we were around 6k-6.1k gs, the Brooch gave around 3% of all absorbs done, which is way less than around 15%-20% done with Val'anyr. That's why I wouldn't really recommend to use it.
Good Guide I have learned some things, I do have one question, why don't you skill in the protection tree "improved devotion aura" and take those 3 points out of the heal tree (for example blessed hands 2 points and maybe one from improved lay on hands). You would gain 6 % more heal which is active all the time in exchange for the hands that only last for very few seconds. Yes the point in lay on hands is more impactful but you have to take the third point from somewhere...
The basic reason is that most raids have a Protection Paladin as Maint Tank, which almost always has this skill talented, so it's better for a Holy Paladin to allocate your Talent Points somewhere else. Also Restoration Druids have the same +6% healing benefit which doesn't stack with the Paladin one, so in the end having either a Resto Druid or Prot Paladin in the raid brings you this healing increase automatically. But keep in mind, the talents I'm showing are considered as somewhat of a cookie cutter spec; you can of course adjust your Talents based on your exact raid composition.
Good catch :) As I was recording, I made that mistake when covering the Judgement ability which is why I tried to go into more detail and mention this fact at 51:15 - I agree though, when going over gear, I should've put the Stat on Melee!
7:40 It's better to not put points on Blessed Hands talent, since your Hand of Sacrifice will break faster, because it breaks on 100% amount of your HP, so it's whatever, plus you will need always to use Divine Protection/Divine Shield to be safe, otherwise you could die instantly easy. It's better to put these two points on Improved Devotion Aura, on Protection tree, since it could be useful when there's no Resto Druid in 10 mans or the Resto Druid dies in 25 man OR there's no Resto Druid in the same Realm as you are at Halion fight (RS25HC).
Well yes and no. I consider my Talent setup as a 'cookie-cutter' setup that is the most useful in the majority of situations. Most of the raids usually run at least one Protection Paladin which has the Improved Devotion Aura Talent, so us also using it is a waste of 3 points since the Auras don't stack. Alot of raids also often bring a Resto Druid, so overall it's quite a small chance to not get this improved healing effect in a raid. That's why in most cases it's better to put the points in Blessed Hands since in any situation at least improved Hand of Salv brings a nice benefit to the raid and also having to use Divine Protection with Hand of Sacrifice isn't that big of a deal anyway, especially if you focus on healing yourself for the duration, to not die. I do agree though, that if there is a raid without a Prot Pala or Resto Druid available, it's a good idea to get Improved Devotion Aura, but as I said, that's quite rare these days.
Hey - excellent guide mate. Thank you so much for your work! Just wanted to know if you will provide a guide for Halion 25hc as well? If not, could share any tips/important notes for that encounter? :)
Thanks for your kind words mate - I probably won't be making any Halion guides, at least in any near future since I have taken a pause playing WoW as I grew bored of it a bit :)
I agree - although I have added them in the Description, because TH-cam seems bugged and doesn't display them on the video timeline, so you have to check there!
Amazing guide, but I don't understand the haste calculations. 1110-1350 haste; 1,2s-1,1s HL cast ??? 1115 haste = 1.2s HL cast (w/o bloodlust) ??? ... because I have 1308 haste = 1,24s HL cast (no buffs; w/o bloodlust); 1393 haste (with Well Fed 40 haste + B&G elixir 45 haste; w/o bloodlust) = 1,22s HL cast. ***And the link for the Spreadsheet is not working.
prety nice guide tho, but i cant agree with improved RF. specialy on BQL with RF on + Avenging you gona get bite in 90% of cases :D since i need DSaC i prefer to get armor instead of RF. second one instead Beacon of Light glyph i prefer Seal of Light for VDW. btw i play haste hpal since 2016 on warmane ✌
Well firstly, if you get aggro as a Holy Paladin on BQL, you have bigger issues with your raid group that would probably not be solved by switching your own talents. It shouldn't be hard for Rogues and Hunters to properly use their spells, so you should never get aggro in a normal raid enviroment. Second though, if that should be the case, maybe just put RF on after the first Bite is recieved? The damage reduction of RF would still help throughout the fight afterwards... Also, if you use the macro for Divine Sacrifice, you should not recieve any damage, making more Armor be kind of reduntant. And for the Glyph, suit yourself - but then you would be playing with Glyph of Seal of Wisdom and Glyph of Seal of Light? I would strongly recommend still using Beacon since it's overall the better and more rounded choice for all raids.
Check the video at 55:44 again, Haste for Holy Paladins is explained there :) It's not way over cap, the soft cap for the Holy Paladin spec is at 1396, at which point one Holy Light cast is exactly 1 second during Bloodlust/Heroism. The 1 second is an important number because Global Cooldown cannot be lower than 1 second. Anything below 1396 Haste is ok. And it is a well reachable number. The 'unreachable' Haste is at the hard cap, which I strongly discourage to aim for. Also specifically mentioned, I encourage each Holy Paladin to find what Haste level works best for them, as it kind of depends on playstyle. The numbers shown in the video are just rough brackets mostly for orientation purposes.
@@ni2916 In certain situations yes, but in general it's best to use Divine Plea with only one of them. No, I don't spam JoL on the bosses and I also discourage this. You should upkeep your Judgements only once per minute ideally, to keep up the Haste buff, unless other Paladins cannot for some reason upkeep the debuff. But even then, only cast it about once every 20s before the debuff runs off, don't spam it off-cooldown
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MACROS:
Divine Sacrifice:
#showtooltip Divine Sacrifice
/cancelaura Divine Sacrifice
/cast Divine Sacrifice
/run if GetTime()>(cd5 or 0)then cd5=GetTime()+120 SendChatMessage(""..GetSpellLink(70940).." for 6sec","SAY")end
Aura Mastery:
#showtooltip Aura Mastery
/cast !Shadow Resistance Aura
/cast Aura Mastery
Divine Plea:
#showtooltip Divine Plea
/cancelaura Divine Plea
/cast Divine Plea
Here's one for you.
#showtooltip Holy Shock
/cast divine favor
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][] Holy Shock
/cast Gift of the Naaru
Allows you to cast div favour into your holy shock. Honestly I never really use Divine Favour unless Im holy shocking on the move so to me it works well. Just start running and use the macro then follow up with FoL. Also can use Gift of hte Naaru if you are Drenai.
Since I don't have the previous upload to compare I can't praise all the tweaks edits you did, but adding a 1pt black outline on the white text helps with readability. I still would have changed the fonts personally, but the dedication and commitment to improve an insanity driven work deserves praise.
This guide is as good as it can get. Very helpful, thank you!
This is amazing. Thank you for doing this. I've only been a hpala for a couple of weeks and this is helping a ton.
This is bis! I have seen many video guides on WotlK, but this one is by far the best.
Many thanks for the great guide.
Excellent guide - helped me a ton.
Concidering how long the video is; chapters would be greatly appreciated
It´s the best guide there I ever seen, u explain it so clearly. I saw your solo heal and solo tank bane video to do mine for the first time. What do you think about Scarab Brooch?
Hey, thanks :) In patch 3.3.5a I don't think Scarab Brooch is really good for Holy Paladins anymore, since it's like a chineese version of Val'anyr. While the on-use Shielding effect looks good on paper, you sacrifice a whole Trinket slot, when most other level 80 Trinkets are better, because they either give way more Intellect or SP or some other useful effect.
If you compare Scarab Brooch with Val'anyr, the latter also gives pretty decent Stats (SP+Haste+Crit) along with the effect and procs almost every 30s, while that Trinket has a 3min cooldown. I remember back in 2017 when we were progressing Sindragosa, which has constant raid damage, I was playing around with this Brooch, but found out it was pretty bad. While we were around 6k-6.1k gs, the Brooch gave around 3% of all absorbs done, which is way less than around 15%-20% done with Val'anyr. That's why I wouldn't really recommend to use it.
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks dude.
Good Guide I have learned some things, I do have one question, why don't you skill in the protection tree "improved devotion aura" and take those 3 points out of the heal tree (for example blessed hands 2 points and maybe one from improved lay on hands). You would gain 6 % more heal which is active all the time in exchange for the hands that only last for very few seconds. Yes the point in lay on hands is more impactful but you have to take the third point from somewhere...
The basic reason is that most raids have a Protection Paladin as Maint Tank, which almost always has this skill talented, so it's better for a Holy Paladin to allocate your Talent Points somewhere else. Also Restoration Druids have the same +6% healing benefit which doesn't stack with the Paladin one, so in the end having either a Resto Druid or Prot Paladin in the raid brings you this healing increase automatically.
But keep in mind, the talents I'm showing are considered as somewhat of a cookie cutter spec; you can of course adjust your Talents based on your exact raid composition.
1:00:00 judgements require 8% MELEE HIT to always land, not SPELL HIT. So 3:17%, not 3.96%
Good catch :) As I was recording, I made that mistake when covering the Judgement ability which is why I tried to go into more detail and mention this fact at 51:15 - I agree though, when going over gear, I should've put the Stat on Melee!
Good guide for 30% ICC
hahahahah guy who made this video coming from realm where 30% don't even exist. Would like to see your guides.
7:40
It's better to not put points on Blessed Hands talent, since your Hand of Sacrifice will break faster, because it breaks on 100% amount of your HP, so it's whatever, plus you will need always to use Divine Protection/Divine Shield to be safe, otherwise you could die instantly easy.
It's better to put these two points on Improved Devotion Aura, on Protection tree, since it could be useful when there's no Resto Druid in 10 mans or the Resto Druid dies in 25 man OR there's no Resto Druid in the same Realm as you are at Halion fight (RS25HC).
Well yes and no. I consider my Talent setup as a 'cookie-cutter' setup that is the most useful in the majority of situations. Most of the raids usually run at least one Protection Paladin which has the Improved Devotion Aura Talent, so us also using it is a waste of 3 points since the Auras don't stack. Alot of raids also often bring a Resto Druid, so overall it's quite a small chance to not get this improved healing effect in a raid.
That's why in most cases it's better to put the points in Blessed Hands since in any situation at least improved Hand of Salv brings a nice benefit to the raid and also having to use Divine Protection with Hand of Sacrifice isn't that big of a deal anyway, especially if you focus on healing yourself for the duration, to not die.
I do agree though, that if there is a raid without a Prot Pala or Resto Druid available, it's a good idea to get Improved Devotion Aura, but as I said, that's quite rare these days.
Dprot has no effect on mitigating Hand Sac damage transfer
@@cowboybebopenthusiast4135 yes it does
@@SADDANIEL Test it
Hey - excellent guide mate. Thank you so much for your work! Just wanted to know if you will provide a guide for Halion 25hc as well? If not, could share any tips/important notes for that encounter? :)
Thanks for your kind words mate - I probably won't be making any Halion guides, at least in any near future since I have taken a pause playing WoW as I grew bored of it a bit :)
great video!
what do you think about soul preserver for hpala?
❤ best!
We just need time stamps and this vid Will be excellent
I agree - although I have added them in the Description, because TH-cam seems bugged and doesn't display them on the video timeline, so you have to check there!
can you share your WEAKAURA sett for ICC?
Hi! I love your videos. I have a question, u use a WA for tracking the cds? can u share it please, I love it thank u 💞
Amazing guide, but I don't understand the haste calculations. 1110-1350 haste; 1,2s-1,1s HL cast ??? 1115 haste = 1.2s HL cast (w/o bloodlust) ??? ... because I have 1308 haste = 1,24s HL cast (no buffs; w/o bloodlust); 1393 haste (with Well Fed 40 haste + B&G elixir 45 haste; w/o bloodlust) = 1,22s HL cast. ***And the link for the Spreadsheet is not working.
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What healing mod is he using....i use vuhdo and thinking of changing
I go over Addons at 1:10:31 but for your question - I use Healbot (although I'd suggest you use something like Vuhdo or Grid if new to healing)
prety nice guide tho, but i cant agree with improved RF. specialy on BQL with RF on + Avenging you gona get bite in 90% of cases :D since i need DSaC i prefer to get armor instead of RF. second one instead Beacon of Light glyph i prefer Seal of Light for VDW. btw i play haste hpal since 2016 on warmane ✌
Well firstly, if you get aggro as a Holy Paladin on BQL, you have bigger issues with your raid group that would probably not be solved by switching your own talents. It shouldn't be hard for Rogues and Hunters to properly use their spells, so you should never get aggro in a normal raid enviroment. Second though, if that should be the case, maybe just put RF on after the first Bite is recieved? The damage reduction of RF would still help throughout the fight afterwards...
Also, if you use the macro for Divine Sacrifice, you should not recieve any damage, making more Armor be kind of reduntant.
And for the Glyph, suit yourself - but then you would be playing with Glyph of Seal of Wisdom and Glyph of Seal of Light? I would strongly recommend still using Beacon since it's overall the better and more rounded choice for all raids.
1300 haste is insane.. way over cap no?
Just know for druid its 850 or so.. 1994 hc how to even reach that 😵💫
Check the video at 55:44 again, Haste for Holy Paladins is explained there :)
It's not way over cap, the soft cap for the Holy Paladin spec is at 1396, at which point one Holy Light cast is exactly 1 second during Bloodlust/Heroism. The 1 second is an important number because Global Cooldown cannot be lower than 1 second. Anything below 1396 Haste is ok. And it is a well reachable number. The 'unreachable' Haste is at the hard cap, which I strongly discourage to aim for.
Also specifically mentioned, I encourage each Holy Paladin to find what Haste level works best for them, as it kind of depends on playstyle. The numbers shown in the video are just rough brackets mostly for orientation purposes.
Do you only cast avenging wrat with divine plea?
In a normal situation pretty much yes.. there are some exceptions but generally I use Avenging Wrath or Divine Illumination with Divine Plea.
How about all three together? What about JOL, do you spam it on the boss?
@@ni2916 In certain situations yes, but in general it's best to use Divine Plea with only one of them. No, I don't spam JoL on the bosses and I also discourage this. You should upkeep your Judgements only once per minute ideally, to keep up the Haste buff, unless other Paladins cannot for some reason upkeep the debuff. But even then, only cast it about once every 20s before the debuff runs off, don't spam it off-cooldown
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Why do you keep rf on?
Watch 12:11 onward, I covered RF usage there. TL;DR Passive 6% damage reduction in fights
56:21