It’s crazy to think that the Z is compared to the Supra today, years ago it was GTR vs Supra. This is a testament that the Z is something special to be compared to the Supra.
The Supra was never a competitor to the GTR, that’s made up nonsense from the Fast and the Furious movies. The Z has always been the competitor to the Supra (at least when they were in market together at the same time) not 350/370 but 300, and this new Z
Drag race coming? Whoever gets the Supra vs Z video up first on TH-cam is guaranteed over a million views. As much as I like the new Z, I'd still have the Supra GR winning from a dig and roll (manual vs manual, auto vs auto). Although the 9-speed Z would likely beat the manual Supra EDIT: looks like Hagerty got their Supra vs Z drag race up first.
I’m glad that you are buying a Nissan Z. “Car enthusiasts” complain about a lack of sports cars but then they refuse to buy them. You’re a good one Sam.
Saw one this exact color/wheels, etc. parked outsided my apartment yesterday. Looks way better in real life than than in the videos. It's a good looking car.
Great choice Sam. Atleast you didnt buy an "Our boring company cant make a sports car so we bought it from BMW". Enjoy the originality and genuineness of the badge you are driving 👌👌
@@edhcb9359 It doesnt matter for a sports cars to be reliable. Reliability is for taxis. Cars got to be the ultimate performer like BMW with higher mechanical depreciation or constant underperformers like Toyotas with presumably more reliability. Cant merge rabbit and turtle.
@@edhcb9359 lMAO!? you must be a child typing nonesene with your dad's tablet. Reliable performance means dialed down performance. Get a Toyota if you want reliability. It gives you 4cyl power out of a V6, it short shifts at 5000rpm it puts you in sleep between its slow gear shifts but it lasts longer. But no sports car should be infected by this disease. Toyota knows this and thats why they dont make sports cars and buy it from Subaru, BMW and soon Mazda.
Not a Nissan fan but this car is awesome,this vehicle proves that Nissan despite being a shady automaker can still make an impressive car good job Nissan
Well, this is more encouraging as far as the interior headroom. Other drivers 6-2" and 6-3" have said the headroom is a problem. At 6-4" I have hopes of fitting into this thing.
They lied to you. Just test drove one and I'm 6'4. More headroom than Supra or GR86 (I've driven both of them as well). I could easily put a helmet on in the car and still have a bit of room.
Z awesome 😎 Love the color. Love the retro 80s synthy pop music. For some reason whenever I hear similar sounding music, stranger things comes to mind.
For everyone wanting more power, I agree with Sam that balance is critical in a sport car and I think Nissan really got this car right in so many ways from looks, to performance and price. Awesome review!
Agreed. The Nissan Z feels like a major compromise based on the reviews I've read and watched so far. The $40k version is very bare bones and is meant to be a headline catcher as a 400hp RWD 6 speed sports car but without the actual sport in it as it lacks a multitude of critical performance upgrades (it's more like a muscle car). The $50k Performance trim is their sports car equivalent to the GR Supra but with the use of older tech/chassis and notably more weight for only $1k less in price. The 9 speed auto offers more speed than the six speed manual but based on the reviews on the auto, the auto shifts and down shifts are extremely lazy. Six speed manual would be the way to go but is more than a half second slower than the auto in the quarter mile.
you can make the Z faster by getting a tune and e85 lot of Infiniti and 350z have lot of potential because they make so much aftermarket stuff not like bmw or dodge
All of you arguing about drag race results against the Supra sound like car simpletons. These cars are about so much more than straight line speed. Real driving is about engagement, feel, and nuance, not a couple of tenths in a lame drag race.
This exactly. I just watched Savagegeeses review and it pretty much sums out what I thought would happen. The Z is a better feeling car. Better front suspension and will probably be great on track car with some suspension mods.
This! Yeah it is quicker but people just cling to this one fact. And considering the weight, horsepower and all that all 3 cars on that drag race are kinda equal.
Supra GR is way better car. Nissan is too heavy and can't put the power down like supra does. I don't understand why nissan is a better car then toyota. What is exactly better in Z then in Supra ?
13:45 was that a another Z ?? it looks nice and fun but i don't think it would be faster than a supra with down pipe and tune.. even if the Z had similar mods
Check out Hagerty his channel already has the supra v Nissan z v Mustang Mach 1. He also puts the z against something else but you should watch the video to see what it races 👍
to real enthusiast he didn’t show much. if the nissan won or lose by .200 of a second it means tires , tune etc. the issue is i would take the slower manual because when ur daily or driving these cars the last thing i’m worried about is a Supra being .200-.600 faster STOCK. 2,000.00 dollars get you like 75whp-100whp and wtq. same with supra.
It’s probably a great driver but it looks like shit right now, until I see a nismo or modified version that’s good looking the Supra blows this thing away…
VR engine is superior to the B58 engine. Have you heard of the legendary VR38 engine, aka the Queen of Imports? 🤣 The VR38 engine is superior to all BMW engines ever made. And the Z's VR30 derived from the VR38.
The first car I bought(after parents help) was an 81 280xz, silver and t-tops,. why dont we have t-tops anymore.. bought a 2003 350, then 2009 370, then 2012 370 nismo and now 2024 manual sport Z. fun as hell. little different from the nismo as far as handling but the turbo boost is impressive. Still getting use to this car but it's a seriously fun ride. I would buy the new nismo but want manual even if I'm not faster
The GR Supra is the closest available sports car, to the old Nissan 240z (silky smooth glorious sounding inline 6! engine!!!). This new "cheap" 370z/400z/Z is just that, couldn't be further from what made the old Z's special. Hey but go ahead and believe Nissan's hype and youtube car reviewers hype about this car. What the hell do I know.
That BMW is the ugliest thing ever it lost popularity the day it came out. Too small, ugly, fake vents, BMW with only toyota cup holders. It took Nissan for toyota to even bother with a Manual transmission. This Z may not be perfect Nissan never claimed it was going to be the fastest car ever,but its made in Japan, it stays loyal to its roots, and it gave what people wanted and it will sell 10x more than the Z4 supra
@@EM-km8em yet people overlook one of the main reasons toyota was willing to partner on this car aside from price.. It was to stick to the roots of a inline six that has always been under the hood of every generation supra. Yes making a new inline six from scratch would have made the supra even more expensive than it is. At the time BMW was one of the few who made a inline six agreeable for a supra. People act like toyota strayed from the formula of what a supra has always been because they didn't manufacture the parts it consist of.lol even the displacement of the engine is the same as the prior two generations of supra
Not sure if you meant to, but your title photo, reminds me of the old "what a feeling," Toyota commercials. Phenomenal review on an incredible car. You should have met up with a Supra in- conspicuously for an impromptu drag and roll race. Would have been perfect. 🙂
The Z looks great, except that grill needs some help. Japan's exclusive split grill should've been general production imo. My only other complaints are the underwhelming exhaust and really bad backup camera. Overall it's a good, fun car for the money with only some minor downsides.
@@ianstallings you can make the Z faster by getting a tune and e85 lot of Infiniti and 350z have lot of potential because they make so much aftermarket stuff not like bmw or dodge
Whats the point of calling out the Supra in the title. I think that was a poor choice. Its the first overall review of the Z on the chanell let the car live in its own space for a bit. The comparisons and the back and forth can come later.
Nissan must release a track or fairlady package with pilot sport 4 tires. Put the car on a diet. The automatic gearbox is still slushie! I recommend everyone getting the manual for now.
People complain about the price of the z . When the 300zx turbo left the market in 96 it was over 43,000. The new z and the supra are priced right in 50,000 dollar range. That said it's not affordable for everyone.
@@SamCarLegion To the latest Supra models after the manufacturing break, it was a competition, but with the continuation and development of the GT-R, the competition was ruled out. Currently, the horsepower scale is considered a defeat for the Z, compared to 400 hp and 382 for the Supra, and despite that, the Supra wins!!
I agree, Supra may win the battle of measurable numbers, (not by a lot) and have a little bit more modern feeling interior, but the Z wins on retro esthetics and what people really want in a personal sports car. Sure some people buy these things to mod and impress their track day bros, but for the vast majority it will be weekend road tripper (for one or two people) or even a cool commuter car thats quite fun when the work week is over. Is it perfect? No..not sure any car fits that bill. However it's not what it isnt, but what it IS. This thing is a near perfect representation of what the original 240Z should have evolved into years ago...not in the waning days of ice. In any case I'm glad it exists, and as an owner of '78 280Z in my early 20's...this is the first Z (and Nissan product period) to make my maybe list in the near future.
@@SILVERTC2005 It didn’t destroy the z . It was ahead barely a car length. And if you actually understood and watched the video, the difference is the tires. Change those and the z is right there.
@@restlessyouthproductions upgrade Supra tires and see what happens lol stock Supra tires are trash 🗑 Z is 260lbs heavier and that’s gonna hurt the performance
For anyone who cares the auto Z runs 12.4@116 and the manual Z runs 12.8@112 Both need tires to put down the power but they are legit - 550 to 600whp with bolt-ons and these bad boys will be SERIOUSLY fast
@@beexiong2995 nonsense. The vr30's main heel is the belt alignment issue which has been mostly resolved in the Qs and I'm sure it has been ironed out in the Z. Stock turbos do 420-450 to the wheels with just downpipe and tune. As far as cooling, AMS makes a direct bolt on heat exchanger that is so good, it's even in partnership with Infiniti. The AMS exchanger can be bought with official Infiniti branding. So maybe 2-2.5k in mods, add a few hundred for labor and you're doing 500+hp conservatively. More if you're doing ethanol blends.
Hagerty did a drag race with the 2022 new z vs 2022 the mustang GT vs the 2022 supra and the supra gapped the fuck outta the Z....like bad...3 cars at least. So if its pure performance you want, go supra, but if you want a short wheelbased q60 redsport, but still is very much a Z through and through then get a z, getting a manual doesn't matter because the supra comes with that now as well.... The z is beautiful but...man...for the money, i would get a supra hands down...an its not me being biased, i love nissan but....this to compete with the supra is...just not gonna happen...there gonna be ls swapping this car in less than a year, mark my words.
If you’re basing your buying decision off of one drag race, that’s your choice , no matter how silly it is. The Z has a double wishbone suspension, which is traditional sports car vs the BMW setup. The Z also has larger brakes all around. So I don’t see how you’re talking about “ pure performance “ just based on 1 drag race. That’s not performance, that’s a drag race. The Z is a low 12 second, manual transmission, rear wheel drive, double wishbone, Japanese sports car. The Supra does not come with a manual NOW either. It has been announced , but none are on the streets. The Z will outsell the BMW , probably 2:1 …. That’s your drag race.
@@restlessyouthproductions Do you really think Hagerty only ran that drag once? Regarding performance, would you wager the Z will be quicker around a track than the Supra? The Supra is in a different league. The 40k Z is a good deal IMO (if anyone will be able to even buy one at MSRP), but the 50k model… not so much
@@restlessyouthproductions I can tell from that race that with good traction the Z and Supra will be close in a quarter mile...Only the auto Z though because the manual is much slower than the Auto z or current auto only supra. Manual Supra is incoming but will also be slower than its Auto counterpart but my guess is also faster than manual Z. Yeah Z has a double wishbone front suspension and thats nice but doesn't mean its an overall package that will out perform the Supra's suspension setup.. Lastly, the Z has always outsold the Supra probably every generation.. The 4th gen supra was the worst selling to date but much more well known and desired over the 300zx of its generation today.
@@cjpp78ytube Nice summary. If I had a choice between the two , it would be the Z all day. I think people really dismiss the " BMW" callout as a troll or a tired put down, but it's not. The Supra is not a JDM. It even hurts to write that because the 2JZ Supra was everything. I LOVED that car. I preferred it over the 300 ZX. The current Supra is fast and looks like it handles very well. But there's no excitement or traditional passion for it. Personally, I think it's over dramatic looking with the fake vents and sharp angles. There's no tradition in the body lines. This Z has elements going all the way back to the Datson 280. So being a few tenths of a second slower than the Supra is irrelevant. I'm not a race car driver. 4.0 0-60 on stock tires is fast enough, especially considering it chirps and spins all the way through 3rd gear. If it puts the power down with better tires, it's under 4 secs. BMW made a monster engine, but at the end of the day.. there's only 1 true kings of the JDM in this price point and that's the Z. it stands alone.
Just because you say so? No actual performance comparison? Lol… Sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself that the BMW is better with no evidence.
Click bait much? Better than the Supra? The Z got dog walked by the Supra in a drag race. Wtf is this non-sense? They are practically the same price and it comes with less features 😂
@@SamCarLegion Why would they do a rolling start? You do realize that the Z is aggressively geared for the lower gears right? Thus, the whooping it took would have only became greater. Also, the Mustang that beat it as well shares the same engine as the GT a 44k car. Thus, a car that is 7k destroys it off the line.
@@SamCarLegion It was stock vs stock and because Nissan went cheap with the car (like all of it's outdated features) the tires were bridgestone. Who buys a brand new car to have to turn around and spend another 700-1,000 dollars on Michelin tires? Also, the Supra is a rear wheel drive car. And the Mustang is a pretend AWD. So, that statement kind of goes void.
Lets beat a dead horse shall we... Supra fake vents... Z no fake vents. Supra not JDM... Z=JDM... Supra no 6 speed Manual... more fun to drive Z. I'll take my Lady Z in a red dress
Sam.. i have to tell you something: Definitely the manual transmission are NOT "your number" at all😂. You simply can't get it :D. In that manual Z not only shift speed was kind of sleepy, but each and every launch it bog down..😅
Dissapointed in this car. Much rather get a Supra manual. This cars base model which most enthusiast can offer doesn’t even have an LSD???!. It’s freaking hilarious. It also got gapped by a 4 year old Supra by two cars.
Hagerty just did a drag-race with the Z, 9-speed auto vs a Supra (both stock) and the Supra walked this Z. The Z also has a huge problem with it's Launch Control.
The Supra costs more. I'd be happy getting the base Z, doing my own performance mods (including tires) and then running that race again. Obviously, I'd take the Mustang over both 🤣
@@SamCarLegion Make sure its a 2021+ supra. advertised 382hp but really making 400+hp model. Don't go grab a 2020 model supra advertised 335hp (really 370hp) model and line it up with the Z. though it would be interesting to see how the 2020 model supra would fair against the z
The interior just doesn't do it for me. Didn't like it in the 370. Don't like it here in the Z. Other than that, it looks to be formidable on the streets and track. Love that color.
When are you going to drag race your Lexus IS500? You know you will be the first to do it on TH-cam since everyone on TH-cam who test drove never did. Wonder why if it's lighter than the RCF and LC500 and share the same power.
@@timw2083 I would think the IS500 would be much faster since it only weighs 3891 lbs compared to the LC500 4340 lbs to 4540 lbs. I don't know why there isn't any video already drag racing the IS500.
@@bigchocolate8547 I've never had them side by side but the IS500 definitely feels quicker and yeap, weight is the reason. The tire sizes are pretty comparable 275/35/21 (LC) vs. 265/35/19(IS). The looks of the LC really help but the Supra or Z should be much quicker. That V8 sounds great though 🎼🎶🎵
they said it was customer demand ... LOL ... My ass it was, Nissan just forced you to do so BUT that manual they are using i hear is a bunch of pieces from different bmw transmissions that they put together to make this one .... Not sure how well that is going to work out. Gut feeling that its going to be a failure.
I like everyone trying to hate and say the Supra is better. Performance isn't everything, and Toyota is a little too late with their manual. Not to mention the Supra has those cheesey fake vents and looks terrible, nothing like their FT-1 concept. The fact that it's not all Toyota unsettles some.
Now y'all die hard MKV haters are moving the goal post. All of a sudden "performance isn't everything" when this car falls short of being the hyped "Supra killer". The stuff about the fake vents is a cheap nitpick that people keep bringing up for arguments sake and who cares if the manual is "too late"? It's still coming, there's no such thing as being too late.
Soon tesla will run faster than any gas powered vehicle, speed is pointless in this case. Toyota never gave the looks of the F1 everyone wanted. Nissan stayed loyal to their concept, their roots and heritage, it may not be perfect, Nissan never stated the car was going to be faster than the BMW Supra, but it gave what everyone wanted a manual since release date, kept the original concept, and the looks are timeless, this Z will sell 10x more than the Supra. And it will be seen out in the streets for another 10-30 years. Unlike the Supra it was dead upon release, horrible looks with the fake vents and cup holders being the only thing designed by toyota an already forgotten small ugly Z4 with toyota badges.
I actually didn’t get one because i need it a 4 door wouldn’t care much about the gap. For the price difference I can make the Z faster and still save money.
@@SamCarLegion Indeed, and since your channel is famous for cool and interesting drag racing, that makes sense. You are forgiven for getting a sports car in automatic 😅
It may feel special to you my friend. But it don’t look special. 😳 Maybe Nissan could have done better. IDK. Only the GT-R looks Bad-A. And it’s very dated! And that rear end looks like the old Mark 3 1992 Supra! 😂 Anyway. Boring…
It’s crazy to think that the Z is compared to the Supra today, years ago it was GTR vs Supra. This is a testament that the Z is something special to be compared to the Supra.
The Supra was never a competitor to the GTR, that’s made up nonsense from the Fast and the Furious movies. The Z has always been the competitor to the Supra (at least when they were in market together at the same time) not 350/370 but 300, and this new Z
Drag race coming? Whoever gets the Supra vs Z video up first on TH-cam is guaranteed over a million views.
As much as I like the new Z, I'd still have the Supra GR winning from a dig and roll (manual vs manual, auto vs auto). Although the 9-speed Z would likely beat the manual Supra
EDIT: looks like Hagerty got their Supra vs Z drag race up first.
@@TheBreakfastLover There is already a DRAG RACE. But its not by SAM So I dint bother watching it. I wait for real results here
Z was competition to Supra since the beginning . Toyota made Supra to compete with 240z , GTR was never supras competition nor the new GTR .
@@TheBreakfastLover Supra v Z drag race is already up on Hagerty’s channel. I won’t spoil which car won.
I’m glad that you are buying a Nissan Z. “Car enthusiasts” complain about a lack of sports cars but then they refuse to buy them. You’re a good one Sam.
Saw one this exact color/wheels, etc. parked outsided my apartment yesterday. Looks way better in real life than than in the videos. It's a good looking car.
Agreed
Sam, your enthusiasm in this video was infectious. Great video and that car looks like a lot of fun.
Great choice Sam. Atleast you didnt buy an "Our boring company cant make a sports car so we bought it from BMW". Enjoy the originality and genuineness of the badge you are driving 👌👌
Now if we could combine Toyota and Nissan that would be really awesome since Nissan can’t produce a reliable car.
Very true!
@@edhcb9359 It doesnt matter for a sports cars to be reliable. Reliability is for taxis. Cars got to be the ultimate performer like BMW with higher mechanical depreciation or constant underperformers like Toyotas with presumably more reliability. Cant merge rabbit and turtle.
@@kizo172 Doesn’t matter? You must be one of the rich Chinese students that I see running around my kid’s university.
@@edhcb9359 lMAO!? you must be a child typing nonesene with your dad's tablet. Reliable performance means dialed down performance. Get a Toyota if you want reliability. It gives you 4cyl power out of a V6, it short shifts at 5000rpm it puts you in sleep between its slow gear shifts but it lasts longer. But no sports car should be infected by this disease. Toyota knows this and thats why they dont make sports cars and buy it from Subaru, BMW and soon Mazda.
The new Z is causing waves like the original 240Z did. This car is going to be a sales hit.
"Forget about the Supra" 😂 That was hilarious!
Great to see your channel grow 👍🏻 enjoy the car! With as many different cars as you drive this is a strong statement!
Not a Nissan fan but this car is awesome,this vehicle proves that Nissan despite being a shady automaker can still make an impressive car good job Nissan
Why “shady?”
@@williambellisIII maybe because the CEO escaped out of Japan in a box
@@gabrieljohnson5077 🤣
@@gabrieljohnson5077 😂💀😂💀😂💀
@@gabrieljohnson5077 ayylmao
I would have to buy the manual transmission for sure!
LOOOOOL 50K for the performance, RIP all the Reddit Nissan fanboys
Well, this is more encouraging as far as the interior headroom. Other drivers 6-2" and 6-3" have said the headroom is a problem. At 6-4" I have hopes of fitting into this thing.
They lied to you. Just test drove one and I'm 6'4. More headroom than Supra or GR86 (I've driven both of them as well). I could easily put a helmet on in the car and still have a bit of room.
They both seem like good picks but I'd go with the Z over Supra.
So glad you bought one of these!!
Z awesome 😎
Love the color.
Love the retro 80s synthy pop music. For some reason whenever I hear similar sounding music, stranger things comes to mind.
For everyone wanting more power, I agree with Sam that balance is critical in a sport car and I think Nissan really got this car right in so many ways from looks, to performance and price. Awesome review!
HP means nothing without balance. If I want just a straight machine, I buy a Tesla. Car has to be fun to drive, sounds great and beautiful to look at.
Nice car but I honestly prefer the Supra by a lot and especially with the manual coming!
Agreed. The Nissan Z feels like a major compromise based on the reviews I've read and watched so far. The $40k version is very bare bones and is meant to be a headline catcher as a 400hp RWD 6 speed sports car but without the actual sport in it as it lacks a multitude of critical performance upgrades (it's more like a muscle car).
The $50k Performance trim is their sports car equivalent to the GR Supra but with the use of older tech/chassis and notably more weight for only $1k less in price. The 9 speed auto offers more speed than the six speed manual but based on the reviews on the auto, the auto shifts and down shifts are extremely lazy. Six speed manual would be the way to go but is more than a half second slower than the auto in the quarter mile.
The supra is really ugly
@@jettseoldam4160 wow but the Z lose to the supra
@@jettseoldam4160 that's a personal opinion
@@hpickettz34 Aren’t you giving personal opinions?
wow such a beauty👍real jdm..
Hey Sam I preordered in end of January. Hope to have it in a couple months fingers crossed. What color did you go with?
Will it come in black as well ?
There you go. Totally agreed!
you can make the Z faster by getting a tune and e85 lot of Infiniti and 350z have lot of potential because they make so much aftermarket stuff not like bmw or dodge
So attractive. Especially at the starting price point.
All of you arguing about drag race results against the Supra sound like car simpletons. These cars are about so much more than straight line speed. Real driving is about engagement, feel, and nuance, not a couple of tenths in a lame drag race.
This exactly. I just watched Savagegeeses review and it pretty much sums out what I thought would happen. The Z is a better feeling car. Better front suspension and will probably be great on track car with some suspension mods.
This! Yeah it is quicker but people just cling to this one fact.
And considering the weight, horsepower and all that all 3 cars on that drag race are kinda equal.
Supra GR is way better car. Nissan is too heavy and can't put the power down like supra does. I don't understand why nissan is a better car then toyota. What is exactly better in Z then in Supra ?
The Nissan has 275 width tires in the back, so it should be able to put the power down. The issue here is the tires. It needs Michelins.
13:45 was that a another Z ??
it looks nice and fun but i don't think it would be faster than a supra with down pipe and tune..
even if the Z had similar mods
different color
Sam
Great video 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you 🙌
Sam be the first one to post of a 2023 Nissan Z vs 2021 or 2022 supra dig and rolling start!
Check out Hagerty his channel already has the supra v Nissan z v Mustang Mach 1. He also puts the z against something else but you should watch the video to see what it races 👍
I’ve seen the video already and man I’m impressed with the results can’t wait to see the new Z on the road and race it in my stock 2021 a91 Supra lol
We will do :)
We will do :)
18:22
Should have had shift options on the "shifter" as well ... Steering wheel paddle shifters only sucks. Especially in turns when you need to shift
Tune it! Downpipes and a muffler delete!
Call reviewers are just hyping this thing up.
None of us are race car drivers
Hagerty showed the supra beating the Nissan late night yesterday as the embargo ended
to real enthusiast he didn’t show much. if the nissan won or lose by .200 of a second it means tires , tune etc. the issue is i would take the slower manual because when ur daily or driving these cars the last thing i’m worried about is a Supra being .200-.600 faster STOCK. 2,000.00 dollars get you like 75whp-100whp and wtq. same with supra.
One of the best looking new sports cars.
Would love for you to setup a drag race with this Nissan and the Supra
Definitely will do that.
It was already done, Supra spanked
The Z!
The supra gapped it like by 3 cars. Look up Hagerty channel. Its ridiculous people really think the z had a chance against it.
@@kuraryuX bruh wtf are y’all lying about
you watch the Hagerty video? If so, take a peek.
The color is cool and the blue too
It’s probably a great driver but it looks like shit right now, until I see a nismo or modified version that’s good looking the Supra blows this thing away…
You could at least wait until you see it in person before making that conclusion.
Still, it can’t beat the BMW…err, I meant the Supra. 😜😂
That’s a basic one and I’m pretty sure later Nissan will make a Nismo version which will be faster.
VR engine is superior to the B58 engine. Have you heard of the legendary VR38 engine, aka the Queen of Imports? 🤣 The VR38 engine is superior to all BMW engines ever made. And the Z's VR30 derived from the VR38.
Even with inferior Bridgestone tires, the auto Z was only 1mph behind the Supra with superior Michelin tires in the 1/4mi: 116 vs 117 mph. 😏
@@Asiansxsymbol cough s58
@@alexmaccain2362 lol
The first car I bought(after parents help) was an 81 280xz, silver and t-tops,. why dont we have t-tops anymore.. bought a 2003 350, then 2009 370, then 2012 370 nismo and now 2024 manual sport Z. fun as hell. little different from the nismo as far as handling but the turbo boost is impressive. Still getting use to this car but it's a seriously fun ride. I would buy the new nismo but want manual even if I'm not faster
Forget the Supra? A video has already been posted of the new Z drag racing both the manual and auto Z against the Supra and the Supra smoked it
Why didn’t they do a roll race?
@@SamCarLegion the z weighs 360 pounds more and it's down on torque and wheel hp.. its losing a roll even worse
@@SamCarLegion the outcome of the roll race would be the same, Supra would still win.
@@TheBreakfastLover I am 50% sure it will not. Two turbos spool faster than one.
@@SamCarLegion true, but I don't believe it would offset the Supra's (true) power-to-weight advantage. But there's only one way to find out!
Cant wait to see what the Nismo version will be like
So did u return ur is500
No :)
Is there a reason you chose the auto vs the manual?
Wanted to have fun
@@SamCarLegion Interesting.
The GR Supra is the closest available sports car, to the old Nissan 240z (silky smooth glorious sounding inline 6! engine!!!).
This new "cheap" 370z/400z/Z is just that, couldn't be further from what made the old Z's special. Hey but go ahead and believe Nissan's hype and youtube car reviewers hype about this car. What the hell do I know.
That BMW is the ugliest thing ever it lost popularity the day it came out. Too small, ugly, fake vents, BMW with only toyota cup holders. It took Nissan for toyota to even bother with a Manual transmission.
This Z may not be perfect Nissan never claimed it was going to be the fastest car ever,but its made in Japan, it stays loyal to its roots, and it gave what people wanted and it will sell 10x more than the Z4 supra
@@EM-km8em have fun with your fat and slower Japanese car
@@EM-km8em yet people overlook one of the main reasons toyota was willing to partner on this car aside from price.. It was to stick to the roots of a inline six that has always been under the hood of every generation supra. Yes making a new inline six from scratch would have made the supra even more expensive than it is. At the time BMW was one of the few who made a inline six agreeable for a supra. People act like toyota strayed from the formula of what a supra has always been because they didn't manufacture the parts it consist of.lol even the displacement of the engine is the same as the prior two generations of supra
Sam just curious, how often do you wash/detail your Lexus?
Not much bud barely gets driven
Not sure if you meant to, but your title photo, reminds me of the old "what a feeling," Toyota commercials. Phenomenal review on an incredible car. You should have met up with a Supra in- conspicuously for an impromptu drag and roll race. Would have been perfect. 🙂
Soon :)
@@SamCarLegion
I know, you never let your viewers down. 🙂
The Z looks great, except that grill needs some help. Japan's exclusive split grill should've been general production imo. My only other complaints are the underwhelming exhaust and really bad backup camera. Overall it's a good, fun car for the money with only some minor downsides.
Welcome to Nissan Z Party Sam
It's slower than the Supra. Not a fan of the Z's interior either.
Nope. The Supra is a couple ticks faster 0 to 60.
@@gaylenhalbert4391it literally beat it by 2 cars stop making excuses. It had 4 years. It shoulda beat the supra not been two cars behind
@@ianstallings you can make the Z faster by getting a tune and e85 lot of Infiniti and 350z have lot of potential because they make so much aftermarket stuff not like bmw or dodge
Did you get to try the "no lift shift," function of the Z's 6spd manual Sam? I couldn't tell for sure if you were lifting on the drag strip or not.
Mans was definitely liftingggg😂
Can I even buy one if I have the money? Are they pretty much all spoken for? Are we looking at Corvette c8 markups?
I don’t think there will be a mark up
Makes You wonder Damn !! How Good the Nissan GTR is and how fast ...
Whats the point of calling out the Supra in the title. I think that was a poor choice. Its the first overall review of the Z on the chanell let the car live in its own space for a bit. The comparisons and the back and forth can come later.
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@@SamCarLegion Fair enough 👍🏾
@@SamCarLegion Looks silly now that we're finding out it's slower than a Supra, but whatever you need to do to boost those views...
Nissan must release a track or fairlady package with pilot sport 4 tires. Put the car on a diet. The automatic gearbox is still slushie! I recommend everyone getting the manual for now.
Auto is great for what it is
The Nismo version will take care of the hardcore crowd don't you worry...
People complain about the price of the z . When the 300zx turbo left the market in 96 it was over 43,000. The new z and the supra are priced right in 50,000 dollar range. That said it's not affordable for everyone.
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Brake all the way down ... and the paddle shifters are NOT brakes 🤣
Sorry bro but 400 horse power to z frustrates me, and you're talking about the less-horse-powered Supra winning over z !! Supra is the legend
It’s funny how we can compare the Supra to the Nissan Z instead of the GTR which it used to compete :)
@@SamCarLegion To the latest Supra models after the manufacturing break, it was a competition, but with the continuation and development of the GT-R, the competition was ruled out. Currently, the horsepower scale is considered a defeat for the Z, compared to 400 hp and 382 for the Supra, and despite that, the Supra wins!!
I agree, Supra may win the battle of measurable numbers, (not by a lot) and have a little bit more modern feeling interior, but the Z wins on retro esthetics and what people really want in a personal sports car. Sure some people buy these things to mod and impress their track day bros, but for the vast majority it will be weekend road tripper (for one or two people) or even a cool commuter car thats quite fun when the work week is over. Is it perfect? No..not sure any car fits that bill. However it's not what it isnt, but what it IS. This thing is a near perfect representation of what the original 240Z should have evolved into years ago...not in the waning days of ice. In any case I'm glad it exists, and as an owner of '78 280Z in my early 20's...this is the first Z (and Nissan product period) to make my maybe list in the near future.
Not by a lot? The supra destroys the z on track.
Now race the Supra lol 😂 still slow but cool 😎
Hagerty posted a video today of the Supra destroying the new Z
@@SILVERTC2005 It didn’t destroy the z . It was ahead barely a car length. And if you actually understood and watched the video, the difference is the tires. Change those and the z is right there.
@@restlessyouthproductions na lol z is 360 pounds heavier. The supra will walk away on a roll
@@restlessyouthproductions They compared the vehicles as they come from factory. You can upgrade the tires on any car. Z got gapped.
@@restlessyouthproductions upgrade Supra tires and see what happens lol stock Supra tires are trash 🗑 Z is 260lbs heavier and that’s gonna hurt the performance
im probably the only guy out there,
think prefers the 280ZX, in terms of styling, over all other Z models.
No man, I’m right with you. 280 is so sick!!
For anyone who cares the auto Z runs 12.4@116 and the manual Z runs 12.8@112
Both need tires to put down the power but they are legit - 550 to 600whp with bolt-ons and these bad boys will be SERIOUSLY fast
I've seen 12.3 for the 9 speed. Yeah with a tune this thing will be in the 10s easily
This motor is the same as the infiniti q60. If you know anything its not easy to make power reliably without swapping turbos and upgraded cooling
@@beexiong2995 nonsense. The vr30's main heel is the belt alignment issue which has been mostly resolved in the Qs and I'm sure it has been ironed out in the Z. Stock turbos do 420-450 to the wheels with just downpipe and tune. As far as cooling, AMS makes a direct bolt on heat exchanger that is so good, it's even in partnership with Infiniti. The AMS exchanger can be bought with official Infiniti branding. So maybe 2-2.5k in mods, add a few hundred for labor and you're doing 500+hp conservatively. More if you're doing ethanol blends.
500hp in a VR30 requires $10k. A supra requires a $300 catless dp and a tune for 500hp. 😂
@@touayaaj84 lmfao Youre smoking crack if you think it takes 10k to make 500hp aka 425whp on a VR30 - just stop kid - you are cluless
Till this day I still think the Fairlady z 99 is the best looking of them all
z32 baby
Gorgeous car
The engine is awesome, very impressed, just wish they went another way with the body style
Lol Hagerty already posted a video of the new Z getting smoked by the Supra.
Hagerty did a drag race with the 2022 new z vs 2022 the mustang GT vs the 2022 supra and the supra gapped the fuck outta the Z....like bad...3 cars at least. So if its pure performance you want, go supra, but if you want a short wheelbased q60 redsport, but still is very much a Z through and through then get a z, getting a manual doesn't matter because the supra comes with that now as well....
The z is beautiful but...man...for the money, i would get a supra hands down...an its not me being biased, i love nissan but....this to compete with the supra is...just not gonna happen...there gonna be ls swapping this car in less than a year, mark my words.
Yeah, Supra beats the Z easily now. I thought they would be much closer in terms of performance.
If you’re basing your buying decision off of one drag race, that’s your choice , no matter how silly it is. The Z has a double wishbone suspension, which is traditional sports car vs the BMW setup. The Z also has larger brakes all around. So I don’t see how you’re talking about “ pure performance “ just based on 1 drag race. That’s not performance, that’s a drag race. The Z is a low 12 second, manual transmission, rear wheel drive, double wishbone, Japanese sports car. The Supra does not come with a manual NOW either. It has been announced , but none are on the streets. The Z will outsell the BMW , probably 2:1 …. That’s your drag race.
@@restlessyouthproductions Do you really think Hagerty only ran that drag once? Regarding performance, would you wager the Z will be quicker around a track than the Supra? The Supra is in a different league. The 40k Z is a good deal IMO (if anyone will be able to even buy one at MSRP), but the 50k model… not so much
@@restlessyouthproductions I can tell from that race that with good traction the Z and Supra will be close in a quarter mile...Only the auto Z though because the manual is much slower than the Auto z or current auto only supra. Manual Supra is incoming but will also be slower than its Auto counterpart but my guess is also faster than manual Z.
Yeah Z has a double wishbone front suspension and thats nice but doesn't mean its an overall package that will out perform the Supra's suspension setup..
Lastly, the Z has always outsold the Supra probably every generation.. The 4th gen supra was the worst selling to date but much more well known and desired over the 300zx of its generation today.
@@cjpp78ytube Nice summary. If I had a choice between the two , it would be the Z all day. I think people really dismiss the " BMW" callout as a troll or a tired put down, but it's not. The Supra is not a JDM. It even hurts to write that because the 2JZ Supra was everything. I LOVED that car. I preferred it over the 300 ZX. The current Supra is fast and looks like it handles very well. But there's no excitement or traditional passion for it. Personally, I think it's over dramatic looking with the fake vents and sharp angles. There's no tradition in the body lines. This Z has elements going all the way back to the Datson 280. So being a few tenths of a second slower than the Supra is irrelevant. I'm not a race car driver. 4.0 0-60 on stock tires is fast enough, especially considering it chirps and spins all the way through 3rd gear. If it puts the power down with better tires, it's under 4 secs. BMW made a monster engine, but at the end of the day.. there's only 1 true kings of the JDM in this price point and that's the Z. it stands alone.
Sam's proven that an enthusiast with money is more potent then without.
Forget the Supra? Hagerty did a vid racing one and got walked by it lol
From a dig, while spinning more than the supra. What happened to the roll race?
Hell no, the Supra still better
Just because you say so? No actual performance comparison? Lol… Sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself that the BMW is better with no evidence.
@@restlessyouthproductions yes of course the BMW is better than the ugly Z or nissan
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Chirped 2nd and 3rd IN an automatic 👍🏾
Click bait much? Better than the Supra? The Z got dog walked by the Supra in a drag race. Wtf is this non-sense? They are practically the same price and it comes with less features 😂
I watched the video, why didn’t they do a roll race? Don’t worry I will make my own drags
@@SamCarLegion Why would they do a rolling start? You do realize that the Z is aggressively geared for the lower gears right? Thus, the whooping it took would have only became greater.
Also, the Mustang that beat it as well shares the same engine as the GT a 44k car. Thus, a car that is 7k destroys it off the line.
@@ToneysReviews a RWD race battle needs a roll race. Also, why was the Z constantly spinning while we did tests with Nissan, same tires no spinning
@@SamCarLegion It was stock vs stock and because Nissan went cheap with the car (like all of it's outdated features) the tires were bridgestone. Who buys a brand new car to have to turn around and spend another 700-1,000 dollars on Michelin tires?
Also, the Supra is a rear wheel drive car. And the Mustang is a pretend AWD. So, that statement kind of goes void.
Clearly tires weren’t warmed up appropriately. Don’t worry my own drags will show up
Lets beat a dead horse shall we... Supra fake vents... Z no fake vents. Supra not JDM... Z=JDM... Supra no 6 speed Manual... more fun to drive Z. I'll take my Lady Z in a red dress
We are need to drag reas with Toyota supra vs Nissan z 400
It’s not a Z 400
this new small 2 door compact 400 Z is the heaviest Z ever, well done Nissan.
35-3600 lbs is light weight nowadays. Still a little heavy compare to the Supra and Cayman.
@@jml9550 the car has 3600 - 3700 lbs other cars where are bigger or longer as the Z have 400 - 600 lbs less weight.
Sam.. i have to tell you something: Definitely the manual transmission are NOT "your number" at all😂. You simply can't get it :D. In that manual Z not only shift speed was kind of sleepy, but each and every launch it bog down..😅
Great deal , but if you have the money Supra !
Black and jellow song
they should have made the front bumper styled like the rear
People keep requesting the 2022 kia stinger gt-line vs the 2022 kia k5 gt...prob would hit alot of views..but this guy just won't do it not sure why.
We did it
@@SamCarLegion when? The stinger gt-line? Vs k5 gt?
The gt-line stinger has the 2.5 like the k5gt...you didn't review those
Yeah you reviewed the stinger 3.3 vs the k5 gt..alot of people like myself want to see the2022 stinger gt-line 2.5 vs the k5gt 2.5
Last thing if you go back to that video in the comments there are tons of people requesting it
Dissapointed in this car. Much rather get a Supra manual. This cars base model which most enthusiast can offer doesn’t even have an LSD???!. It’s freaking hilarious. It also got gapped by a 4 year old Supra by two cars.
You won’t get a chance to get a supra manual lol unless u have money
@@SamCarLegion that I don’t have my friend 😅
This is easily a 10s second car with minimal bolt ons
no
HARD no
Several Qs have already hit 10s fbo and tuned on stock turbos. This car is much lighter
Fbo this car should be at low 10s or in the high 9s
Hagerty just did a drag-race with the Z, 9-speed auto vs a Supra (both stock) and the Supra walked this Z. The Z also has a huge problem with it's Launch Control.
I watched it, no roll race?? I will do mine :)
@@SamCarLegion Can’t wait to see yours 🙌
The Supra costs more. I'd be happy getting the base Z, doing my own performance mods (including tires) and then running that race again. Obviously, I'd take the Mustang over both 🤣
The BMW Supra is superior!! 😎 💪💪💪
@@SamCarLegion Make sure its a 2021+ supra. advertised 382hp but really making 400+hp model.
Don't go grab a 2020 model supra advertised 335hp (really 370hp) model and line it up with the Z. though it would be interesting to see how the 2020 model supra would fair against the z
Best sports car of 2022 that doesn’t really exist…to the majority. The PS5 of automobiles 😅
The interior just doesn't do it for me. Didn't like it in the 370. Don't like it here in the Z. Other than that, it looks to be formidable on the streets and track. Love that color.
It’s only for the Z community not for you 🤣 stay in yo stang lanes and keep hitting crowds lol
@@KeithJay707 for sure!
When are you going to drag race your Lexus IS500? You know you will be the first to do it on TH-cam since everyone on TH-cam who test drove never did. Wonder why if it's lighter than the RCF and LC500 and share the same power.
The IS500 is much more nimble than the LC500. They feel about the same to 60mph. The LC500 is fun but is much heavier than the IS500.
@@timw2083 I would think the IS500 would be much faster since it only weighs 3891 lbs compared to the LC500 4340 lbs to 4540 lbs. I don't know why there isn't any video already drag racing the IS500.
@@bigchocolate8547 I've never had them side by side but the IS500 definitely feels quicker and yeap, weight is the reason. The tire sizes are pretty comparable 275/35/21 (LC) vs. 265/35/19(IS). The looks of the LC really help but the Supra or Z should be much quicker.
That V8 sounds great though 🎼🎶🎵
@@timw2083 yeah I know that V8 sound especial that's why I ordered me one but won't see it till 2023 😕🤷🏿♂️
It ain’t a coincidence that the 2023 Supra is getting a stick shift. And I can thank Nissan for that.
they said it was customer demand ... LOL ... My ass it was, Nissan just forced you to do so BUT that manual they are using i hear is a bunch of pieces from different bmw transmissions that they put together to make this one ....
Not sure how well that is going to work out. Gut feeling that its going to be a failure.
I like everyone trying to hate and say the Supra is better. Performance isn't everything, and Toyota is a little too late with their manual. Not to mention the Supra has those cheesey fake vents and looks terrible, nothing like their FT-1 concept. The fact that it's not all Toyota unsettles some.
Now y'all die hard MKV haters are moving the goal post. All of a sudden "performance isn't everything" when this car falls short of being the hyped "Supra killer". The stuff about the fake vents is a cheap nitpick that people keep bringing up for arguments sake and who cares if the manual is "too late"? It's still coming, there's no such thing as being too late.
@@GT-RTData9 facts! Separate the men from the boys
Soon tesla will run faster than any gas powered vehicle, speed is pointless in this case. Toyota never gave the looks of the F1 everyone wanted.
Nissan stayed loyal to their concept, their roots and heritage, it may not be perfect, Nissan never stated the car was going to be faster than the BMW Supra, but it gave what everyone wanted a manual since release date, kept the original concept, and the looks are timeless, this Z will sell 10x more than the Supra. And it will be seen out in the streets for another 10-30 years. Unlike the Supra it was dead upon release, horrible looks with the fake vents and cup holders being the only thing designed by toyota an already forgotten small ugly Z4 with toyota badges.
No wonder Sam was so salty about the Supra gapping the Z... He bought an over hyped GT car.
I actually didn’t get one because i need it a 4 door wouldn’t care much about the gap. For the price difference I can make the Z faster and still save money.
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This guy should NOT be a teacher ...
Il still get the SUPRA manual or auto its better than the NISSAN Z more fast than the Z handles better than the Z sounds better than the Z
What!!! Sam is getting a new Z performance in Automatic??? Sacrilege!
Drags need auto :) and the fact that only 30% will order auto, makes it even better
@@SamCarLegion Indeed, and since your channel is famous for cool and interesting drag racing, that makes sense. You are forgiven for getting a sports car in automatic 😅
Drop the x videos like Will Smith dropped the hand on Chris rock as soon as I saw the notification
Would have still gotten a supra b58. But thing about I like you sam is you're different and more niche, that's why I sub :)
I appreciate that!
I'll keep my 2022 BMW M240i Xdrive
12k more for sure you can
The rear subframe seems cheap and flimsy compared to my Nismo 350z..
F the Z i was looking at one but its death by the dealerships
Turbo speed and voltage are WORTHLESS ....
It may feel special to you my friend. But it don’t look special. 😳
Maybe Nissan could have done better. IDK. Only the GT-R looks Bad-A. And it’s very dated!
And that rear end looks like the old Mark 3 1992 Supra! 😂
Anyway. Boring…
Just let the manual supra come in market.. then do the comparison..
If u can actually get one
Way better than the Supra(bmw). Sexy car Sam!