The New Alestiel Is REDICULOUS!!! - Cardfight Update

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  • @Jarmymon
    @Jarmymon ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think what’s important to remember is that there is a g2 black wings card that at the end of the battle it boosted if you are in black wings you can put a rear guard or card from your soul into your hand which means you can easily Tudor out your dress up from field or soul ready for the next turn

    • @VanguardInsider
      @VanguardInsider  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup realized that after recording that you can even loop that part of the deck it's actually pretty nuts if you think about it and with yuika you can even bounce back the G2 so you have her save to do it again next turn and have infinite Persona Rides

    • @Jarmymon
      @Jarmymon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VanguardInsider if you grab a card from soul with that g2 it goes into soul so I don’t think you could use yuika at that point. But the more I theory craft the list the more I want to fit yuika in the deck despite it having no wing synergy. Bibbuel would be my budget yuika replacement as it serves the purpose to SB OG Alestiel so you can recycle it

    • @VanguardInsider
      @VanguardInsider  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jarmymon both skills go on stand by you first resolve yuika then resolve the G2 hence the card is already in your hand before you can put it into the soul

    • @Jarmymon
      @Jarmymon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VanguardInsider ohhh I see, since the g2 doesn’t actually have a cost. Looks like I’m adding yuika to my list

  • @fateexoo7511
    @fateexoo7511 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some corrections, new alestiel's first skill isn't exactly the same as the old one, it's BETTER, since in the old one you could only bind if you added a card from bind to hand. Now even if you didn't add, you'd still be able to bind a card, which gets around shojodoji completely shutting alestiel down by removing the bind zone.
    Others have pointed this out, but piael can only attack a g3 or higher vanguard from the backrow.
    Eririel's 2nd skill IS put on GC, not on place, so you can intercept and still proc her effect. This is confirmed as one of her pointers when the card was first revealed on stream in JP.
    One other thing interesting of note is that the new alestiel's black wing effect CAN search for herself since, yknow, that's a black wing effect.
    My main gripe about these reveals is that yes you are pretty much guaranteed white wings every turn, but being on PURE white wings isn't very good, since it means that all the black wings card you will be running are essentially 10k vanillas. The rear swings are laughably weak, and would easily keel over a single defensive trigger unless you persona ride/pull a front while on old alestiel's black wing effect, or alternatively run unsearchable white wing beatsticks. This makes opening the turn with white wings while having no elkels arguably the worst thing that could happen, since realistically all you have going is a double vanguard swing. The deck is only good if you're able to consistently go into elkel's double wing eff, at least that's my impression of the deck.

  • @Dexterritory212
    @Dexterritory212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    something to note about alestial white wings unlike most restanders this is a persona ride and a ride on restander like rivere so triggers to vg on the first attack are basically pointless if they didnt hit in the first place since you will be riding a new vg. i am glad she is getting more love and support especially since i was enjoying her on dear days with set 2 support since i have the cards irl but like to playtest on dear days when i can. the g3 was funny when she first came out a bit nuts if you got her off on set 2 and now its consistant it is very fun.
    the grade 1 is good means you can discard normal alestial g3 for ride and then shuffle back with g1 to ride for the dress up and a generic restand effect at 8k is nice not massive but it helps
    the grade 2 is ok not great its a alestiel effect for 1cb and a 10k shield for grade 2's theres a lot of better options like the one that replaces the bind zone card with a card in your hand.
    the big thing about alestial is if she ever got meta breaking she would bring back any bind enemy cards decks since the biggest weakness to alestials wings is any extra cards in deck unlesss you have the g3 for that turn as they will cancel each other out if there is odd and evens there old narukami would just laugh at it
    looking forward to loronel and feltyrosa given these improvements

  • @danielmongui4660
    @danielmongui4660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎉🎉🎉 second video in a row, glad to see it

  • @wendelgrant7332
    @wendelgrant7332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dunno if he just misread the card before making a video on it or whatnot but Piael can't be used to attack a grade 2 vg from backrow it only works vs grade 3 vanguards , so piael will still need either alestiels black wings or phenael to hit the vanguard

  • @thekishi9502
    @thekishi9502 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You made one wrong assumption on the video, the backrow attacker can only attack a g3 or greater opponent vanguard... great video tho, definitely excited for the new support.

    • @VanguardInsider
      @VanguardInsider  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah that is the only card that only works if you go second on turn 3, but that said there are way more powerfull interactions I learned after the recording that make it even better (look forward to the future deck spotlight)

    • @thekishi9502
      @thekishi9502 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Vanguard Insider yeah definitely, I fell in love with alestiel since set 1 so can't wait to get my hands on this support, time to max rarity the deck again lol

  • @christopherbennett5858
    @christopherbennett5858 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have to admit, seeing Alestiel slapping this hard makes me laugh. The only thing stopping her now is a trigger or a grade one that is also an Elkel. But yeah, that grade 2 isn’t great. It’s good but space is too tight for good.
    And we still have Loronerol and Feltyrosa to go.
    As a lyrical player in Dear days, my only issue is that we may not get these cards.

    • @ZhadTheRad
      @ZhadTheRad ปีที่แล้ว

      And even if we do it won't be until sometime next year

  • @jamesfzy
    @jamesfzy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Serafiel is okay only lol. A booster for VG that at the moment isn't run much in my build since I am going hard on black wings. And the Eririel is just mediocre. New Alestiel is hard carrying but still doesn't solve the big problems of the deck. Elkel is still the primary bind card, the presence of bind in the meta means Alestiel needs Elkel to maintain relevancy and thank god, Alestiel doesn't brick against Shojo.

  • @chrisxcrozz5186
    @chrisxcrozz5186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that fact that now alestiel can potential kill you while you being at grade 2 is damn ridiculous and im happy that i pick my girl back at set 1 and seeing the plays even with just set 2. now with easter alestiel. im gonna quote thanos over here. "This does put a smile on my face"

    • @RoamingSimp
      @RoamingSimp ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As Alestiel enjoyer I have been waiting this day for so long

  • @AGnarlyKitty
    @AGnarlyKitty ปีที่แล้ว

    Isnt the reride also a persona since they are counted as the same name?

    • @VanguardInsider
      @VanguardInsider  ปีที่แล้ว

      persona ride only actiavtes on a normal ride during the ride phase UNLESS a card specifies you actiave Persona Ride (Gratias Gradale & Masque)

    • @AGnarlyKitty
      @AGnarlyKitty ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VanguardInsider true I completely forgot about that lmao

  • @-Pulsar-
    @-Pulsar- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait! Is Alestiel's Second superior Riding effect not once per turn? Am I missing something?
    Does this card literally give you 3 Vanguards attacks while your opponent might still be on Grade 2?
    Also the old Alestiel gives her self a continues Crit Buff and -5K on all of your opponents Units.
    This is absolutely broken they must have made a typo this is leagues ahead from most stuff in Standard right now.

    • @VanguardInsider
      @VanguardInsider  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the superior ride effect goes into the old version so you can only generate 2 VG swings

    • @-Pulsar-
      @-Pulsar- ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VanguardInsider Doesn't she count herself as the old one too? Or is it only while on the field?

    • @tsubasaookami7
      @tsubasaookami7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-Pulsar- The skill to ride from deck says "on its original name", so it bypassws effects that change cards names and checks only the name printed in the card itself.

    • @-Pulsar-
      @-Pulsar- ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tsubasaookami7 Ok thank god, cause it would be even more broken if she actually could do that.

    • @VanguardInsider
      @VanguardInsider  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Pulsar they both have the name of the old one BUT only the old one has that name as its original name. And this new alestiel specifies that it rides into the alestiel with the original name

  • @SleepingVelvet
    @SleepingVelvet ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like if the new cards bound stuff from the hand then they would be better

  • @starbound100
    @starbound100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, at this point I am convinced that bushi decided to murder bruce just to sell more stride decksets to push jet as the only choice in dark states. Viamance has a lot of potential wasted on 2 harsh conditions for no reason.

  • @bjornerickson6075
    @bjornerickson6075 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm... Dunno about laughing stock. I kept winning against Gravidia, Bastion, Zorga and Magnolia. I mean I know these aren't meta, but I would never call Alestiel a laughing stock.
    But otherwise, good video and I'm especially happy Bushi gave us a good card. Alestiel supremacy always.
    I'm now really excited about Loronerol, my second main deck. Here's hoping to something super fun 😊

  • @vanguardduelist
    @vanguardduelist ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I kept my alestiel deck.

  • @nickmaster3886
    @nickmaster3886 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES! YES! YES!

  • @jhonlhorbae9430
    @jhonlhorbae9430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Decent, yes. Broken, no. The new G3 is hard carrying the deck while the rest are just mediocre or even unnecessary. Doesn't fix the binding issues and it bricking against bind decks. Elkel, which I can see will shoot its price ridiculously, is still the best bind target.

  • @ikmal7733
    @ikmal7733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's 3:15a.m. at my place and I didnt sleep yet tonight even tho have classes tmr.
    And it's interesting to got notification from your channel this time, now I learnt a bit about this new Alestiel. Dont have much knowledge of lyrical decks since I am also new for this series.
    Good video as usual, sir🫡