I’m mad and disappointed. I know I’m not alone when I say I only gave that company my monthly money because of classic. They clearly don’t give a shit so I don’t either. I’ll keep the monthly fee
What I think people don't realise is if content creators never made videos criticizing the game, the developers would release the game in an even worse state. Apparently the majority of the wow community believes blizzard shouldn't be held accountable for their poor performance and it's totally justifiable for us to pay 180 dollars a year for an unfinished buggy game.
😂 brother man ! These have. Even broken since the PG launch of the game and were never fixed for 11 years ok? I know I’ve been here ever since laughing at them as I eat shit playing this stupid game
Hunter pet assist missing and having to visit stable master (for a some time). Void storage not being in the game. 2 stupid guild perks removed and overall guild perks changed. Couldn't give a shit honestly, release the game plz. Not playing Retail ever again or SOD bullshit.
wholeheartedly agree everything he mentioned i couldnt care less about none of the talking points were deal breakers blizz hasnt given a shit for a long time i didnt expect em to start with cata classic lmfao
Blizzard choose to put more effort developing Season of Døgshıt, a watered down version of wow with wotlk and cata abilities than a version of classic that has been running and progressing since 2019. It was fun folks
because season of doghit brings a lot of money for no effort. take classic and put in a BUNCH OF UNBALANCED RANDOM spells that cost from lvl 1 to 50 5 mana and do some damage. its just a random copy pasta.
@@dreamsteal4773 probably because they finally realized what I could see before sod started... The quirky abilities and warlock tank and mage healing shit would get old fast and at the end of the day, the dungeons and raids just aren't that fun to play. The content is boring.
@@NoradNoxtus we dont know. but i would not be surprised. BUT we know that its extremley random. ist a clusterfuck off puting everything the can think of just unchecked into the game.
@Cvez7 Boosting a Character to Level 80 Does Not Retain Profession Levels. Blizzard did not make this aware when buying the product and all data was lost.
I am so completely disappointed and crestfallen over this. The chance they had to completely change people's perspective on this oft-maligned expansion and it's already miss after miss before the expansion even officially launches.
I was so hyped to farm guild reputation and unlock new features likes the mass rez and mass summon... I'm so disappointed. Why let the expension go out this way ? The pre patch is supposed to be an event in itself, and it just feel like I'm playing on the PTR...
the void storage was never intended to hold nostalgia items, it was always intended to hold items for transmog purposes which is no longer required guild changes are good. Cash flow removal is a huge stopper for cesspool guilds existing. Have group. Will Travel was abused back in the day, would be doubly abused today. that's why they removed it originally in retail lmao, apart from the broken bugs which I do agree with, this video is clearly dooming for doomers sake. Also these guild changes help smaller guilds, who had very little hope of getting the perks as quick as bigger guilds.
This. I brought that up on another comment. Everyone wanted to be in a level 25 guild. If you were in a guild that just started or was say level 11 then you’d find recruiting very difficult to impossible
They literally give "trophies from past conquests", "vanity holiday items", and "sentimental reasons" as things that Void Storage was intended for in the official Blizzard post announcing the original feature. What are you yapping about?
Some are minor. Guild Levels were a huge feature of Cataclysm. It wasn't perfectly balanced or executed, but it was a satisfying thing to do. I enjoyed it a lot. I wish they capitalized on it, pushing it in a better direction, but instead they scrapped it right after Cataclysm. It was a great opportunity to experience it again. I just logged it and indeed it's mostly broken, even the character stats screen is broken, you literally can't see your stats. You can still track ammos on the minimap, they're not a thing of the game anymore. I can't track half of the quests on the side for no reason. And I've been playing for 15 minutes.
There are always going to be bugs in any pre patch new or old, besides the leave party bug I was dungeon spamming. No use being mad every 5 seconds when things don't go people's ways.
Appreciate the content however mass res for healers =/= have group will travel for warlocks. Classic prog is significantly worsened due to wipe recovery which mass res helps greatly to fix whereas have group will travel is far more impactful (tbt to summoning multiple 40man raids inside Orgrimmar). Not saying HGWT shouldn't exist but giving it to purely Warlocks is a far more impactful choice compared to giving all healers quicker wipe recovery
Yes, when your upper management head inside of ass boss lays out a firm deadline for investors, the customer facing employees in the company have to work extra hard to try and keep the public happy while knowing there was never a chance they would be due to the state of launch. As it is with 99.9% of all launches.
With everything that's completely broken, missing, in the wrong place, even after the beta being around, I just wish the game would run as smoothly as wrath did. I assume it's a bug but only on one character every time I use an ability like flight form my frame rate drops 10 frames and I cannot figure out why. It's super annoying... People defending Blizzard aren't helping either but I'm glad that someone made a video at least. There's complete silence from a lot of wow creators right now.
I’ve seen this coming and I’m not surprised , I’ve been spam refreshing Aggrend’s Twitter for months and I haven’t seen any cata news just SoD . They literally left cata for the last minute and it’s showing now
While it's not fully cooked I don't know if I could mentally tolerate going into ICC for the millionth time so I'll take being a live beta tester over that
The Wrath client updated to build 54881 which is the beta/ptr build with most of the stuff still broken. They are releasing a live game with a broken beta build.
If Cata Classic flops hard I'm going to try the leveling in retail. And if SoD is going to go into Burning Crusade I'm switching to that in an instant. Good to have options I guess...
I just don't think they care about pre patch. They are treating prepatch like an extended beta, but that doesn't mean cata won't be fun. The content is there, and I have a feeling people are getting very bored of sod, so many sod players will try out cata, and so will retail players as they wait for the new expansion.
Don't quote me on this but wrath classic launched on the final balance patch, so I assume they will take the same approach here. So the raids and dungeons will be in their most nerfed state, and same with any class tuning.
well it seems a lot of class talents buggeed as well - for example my favourite - BDK with improved blood presence get 0% to rune regen and chance to be critically hit increased by 100% :)
Hear me out, they set up Cata for failure so they stop at it. MoP is coming as remix, so will legion in future. Cata will be the last classic release, and after that they will keep reiterating on vanilla
Man I hope they have permanent MoP classic realms. I had so much fun that expansion with the farms, being able to get the legendary cloaks, and doing mythic siege of orgrimmar.
remix is timewalking, people need to wrap their heads around it. don't get me wrong I plan to level 4 alts in mop remix but that's all it's actually good for, 556 ilvl alts / rare mount farming(something I have zero interest in) it's not an actual replacement for what we have in the classic side of wow atm
one point, we dont speculate why cash flow and mass port is not implemented oO everyone should know it. Cash flow would further enhance the inflation. and mass port is really dangerous in some cases for abuse bosses in raid any so on. What I think you can clearly see with this announcment is, as video said, blizz is really rushing here and scrap things because they doint have time. Otherwise a fairly easy change with mass port would be that all meeting stones behave like mass port and I wish they would implement it and then in retail as well
I actually have zero problem with the guild changes. With all of the other time sinks involved this is just one less thing to have to worry about. And considering we are cramming this expansion into 9 months? Give me the perks, ive earned it dealing with these nerds for years.
Seriously how do u mess this up it’s been like 14 years. We wanted og classic the way it was and they just decided let’s change everything the last 3 classic games 🤦♂️
I'm not surprised in the least about any of this. Most of the classic andys were never gonna play cata anyways because "it's just retail now." Vanilla to wotlk is widely accepted and considered to be "real" classic, even wotlk is pushing it for some people. So, blizzard just not caring about the state of cata sucks, but it's not really surprising or unexpected.
Guys remember that the ring of blood quest in tanaris gadgetzan has been broken and bugged since the OG cata ! 😂 they have always been a shitty company we support for some reason
I as first thought Void Storage was useless. However I have that damn Carrot on the Stick that I keep on every Alt. I just love that thing from way back in Original. Yes, I would love to put it in void storage. And not destroy it.
@@MrSyla5 Because it was in the original version of the game. Because Cataclysm removes thousands of legacy items from the game; which many people have been collecting with the expectation that they’ll have void storage to de-clutter their banks for all the new junk that Cataclysm brings. Because it’s a minor gold sink but one nonetheless. It may not be significant to you but it’s silly to just remove QoL from the expansion that emphasizes QoL. Having the collection journal doesn’t help people that want to actually keep their Soulbound items. Keep in mind, Blizzard isn’t removing anything because they think it’s a good idea. It’s because they can’t get it working. They’re drowning in bugs right now.
@@brandonkruse6412 have we not learnt from Classic/tbc/wrath that not all things that were in the orignal have a place any more? in terms of items people have been collecting they will be appearing in the appearance tab once cata goes live so not sure how you wont still declutter your bank? Pretty sure if you have the item you dont lose it just because it no longer is going to be available? Void Storage was never really QoL it was a pain in the backside and made the process of obtaining transmog even more labourious then it needed to be, it was just the optimal solution that they had at the time.
I know there's bugs galore right now I and many others will have spells just randomly dissappear from hot bars and spellbook reloading or relogging don't fix the issue
I started playing this game when it first came out long ago. We ran literally everywhere and it took forever to level. I stopped playing for years and forgot password, never used the email and lost everything. I found going back for a visit to the game how much I missed it, how much I lost for mounts lol as I did play up to Panda land HA but it's over kill expensive for a game so won't be playing and remember my Leroy Jenkins days when it was the bomb..
how u fill void storage on retail wow i have no idea when you can have 8 32 slot bags in ur own bank also cash flow started the cesspool of nonstop spam invite guilds with the owner wanting to just farm gold of people leveling and the mass summon was used because people would use it to skip loads and loads of trash in raids. cash flow would also be MASSIVELY abused by bots
I really was looking forward to do the guild leveling with my guildies. For me that is a ton of content that just got scrapped. I know, I still can do content with my guild, but it's not the same without the accomplishment of guild level progression.
@@SgtPwavous that's my exact thought. this dude is 1000% negative, constantly. scotte jaye seems to provide more balanced views on shit. if what he listed was all that was wrong, that's fucking drops in the bucket.
@@SgtPwavous I hope you’re joking right? Tiny change? The ability to carry 5 pets outside of the stable was one of the biggest QoL improvements for Hunter. Btw, it’s not a change. They just haven’t updated the Call Pet 1-5 system yet. They literally said that it’s going to be updated closer to the launch so it’s 100% a bug.
@@Iggybart05 No offense but unless you’ve personally played the PTR, why are yall commenting on the state of it? There are over 500 bugs on the GitHub at the moment and we’re 5 hours from launch. Many of these are core class mechanics and major expansion features. Like only Druids flying having the ability to fly in Azeroth.
@@brandonkruse6412 Oh sorry you're right, a QoL change for Hunter's isn't ready- we should delay the entire timeline until we get that fixed. How would you guys live if for 20 days of pre patch you have to keep doing what you've been doing for 3 years now. My apologies
Sounds about like every industry these days. Just par for the course. Shit on your employees, shit on your customer and shit on your product, so you can have money NOW. Who cares that you are shitting on your brand and losing future income.
We don't love that things are broken, but this is a super doomer take. I also am rly worried they are going to fuck up Cata cus well I have eyes, and I've played SoD, but this post rly is not that bad. Ya can't flip a table every time Blizzard communicates. They will just go back to not listening.
Considering ActiBlizzard history, you are a gullible person if you expected anything else then what we got with Cata pre patch launch. Tbh there are less bugs then i expected, also it shows how good the game was back then if people are willing to pay 15bucks a month to play a buggy game.
So as he said. It's a broken buggy mess with stuff we've reported in beta since it launched. But hey, he was "dOoMsAyInG'. It's a dogshit release from a dogshit company.
HG. WT perk gone is to stop abuse, Cash Flow stops guild invite spam for good. Void storage? Who cares, gimme that collection tab any day over that dumb extra spaces. Guild leveling gone is a good thing in my book, too. We're a small guild of a couple friends and now we're free to continue being so without fomo on guild perks. Worgen can't use the barber? Play a human like every basic b*tch. Or better yet, roll the right faction. And hunter should get their pets removed all together. Nothing good ever came from pet classes anyway.
People who havent even tried SoD commenting on it 😂. Typical toxic ignorant WoW players repeating what theyve heard other ignorant people say. Go spend time with your friends and family irl and touch grass, imagine being that depressed you try to spread it around in a game.
I'm confused wasn't this expansion released 14 years ago? Why are they having so much trouble lol. Having to test and have things ready? You already had it ready 14 years ago can we just launch the final version and move on.
ive been playing the beta all morning and everything seems fine to me I havent had any issues, If hunters only being able to have 1 pet at a time and no void storage is such a big deal to you then maybe dont play cata
@@renebaan7430 Oh no! its not perfect I cant believe it this being the only game to ever launch with bugs we should totally push back the launch until its literally perfect!!! how could they do this to us!
Is this all the problems with launch? If so seems like an overreaction. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy your content. But seems extra. Should blizzard have had all these problems fixed yeah 100%. But telling players to go join a private server meh. If blizzard wanted to those could get shut down also. I mean does blizzard mess up yeah but in reality they didn’t have to do any of this for the community I think most forget that. Classic server, Hardcore Server, and Season of discovery.
@@TurboExit I play the game cause I enjoy playing with the people I have met over the years. There will be problems with every MMO game but I’m not going to quit over some shit prepatch that will get fixed.
@@jcarbs2472 Cool. Yet there's no point whining about this stuff because Blizzard is a company that doesn't give a shit. The only thing they care about is the bottomline. It's as simple as that. So what's the point of complaining about Blizzard's actions, again?
Super disappointed about no void storage. You hit the nail right on the head. My old tier gear or now unobtainable pieces that I raided for weeks to get with all the gems and enchants or what not still in tact is not the same as just it being in the "appearences" tab, and what about some of the fun things that can't be transmogged like those not in your armor class or holiday items? Just pure laziness on Blizzard's part.
Are you just throwing those pieces of gear on randomly or...? Legit can't think of 1 reason you'd keep a piece of gear (outside of trinkets / legendaries / cool proc weapons) besides just appearance. After all, isn't the point of equipping it because it looks cool? You can now do that without taking up 100s of bag slots. Don't see why you'd be upset with this
@@SgtPwavous Because it's a feature that was added in Cataclysm and is still in retail yet for some reason missing in "classic" cataclysm, they claim it's because we don't need it when it's clearly because they were too lazy or inept to implement it properly. I keep stuff like old tier sets or trinkets or unobtainable pieces I like them in item form, not reduced to part of a UI in the collections tab and as I mentioned there are other things that can't be added to the collection tab that I like to keep around.
There's no way you just referred to void storage (a throw away addition added in 4.3 because they added transmog and people needed bag space for gear) a "Major feature" lmfao
@@SgtPwavous Where in my comment did I once refer to Void Storage? Even though it was a big quality of life update whether you interacted with it or not. There’s literally 500+ bugs on the PTR build that haven’t been touched and the list of things getting scrapped continues to grow.
dude i was borderline debating subscribing to you, but you are so over the top dramatic. if what you listed is the bulk of what's wrong with cata, we're fucking fine.
Nah he's good for giving opinion but yeah definitely font agree with void storage stuff. Void storage is unnecessary and the gold cost was always crazy for whst it is
We are so fine bro mages doing 500k dps, battlegrounds take you to max level with 2 wins from lvl10, guild chat not working, pet bars disappearing after relogs this is fine bro do not subscribe hes being dramatic
blizzard is probably focused on xpac > mop remix > 10.2.7 > sod phase 4 > cata class in that order. i wouldn't be surprised if less than 20 people were actually working on cata classic at this point
Blizzard has failed so bad and really showed how bad things are going with them now. i unsubbed 2 weeks ago from auction house bots, so bad that specific bots was being talked about in LFG and after months of reporting nothing ever happened. leveling bots and farming bots dont bother me but BG bots and Auction bots is unacceptable. sub dont run out till feb 2025. i dont even feel like playing till then. Quit cata originally three months in. and im ready to quit now because they released this crap. what a run down company stripped company. never goin back to retail and never gunna play SoD. wtg blizz pat yourselfs on the back. on the bright side, the sun feels ohhh so goood
This is so dramatic lmfao. You really think they should delay the entire timeline because Hunter pet function isn't ready for the pre patch?? This reminds me of people who thought OG Classic was going to be unplayable because the debuff limit was going above 15 lol. It's pre patch. Nothing matters. It lasts a whopping 20 days. You'll live mate
You would expect a little bit more from the multi dollar company but you can just wait until pre-patch hits and see that your shit is broken. Pets were straight up not working on the beta last night less than 20 hours before pre-patch. All the content that was cut and and removed or "added in later updates" screams that they are either short on manpower or just dont give a fuck about it and Im not sure which one is worse.
@@tamasnagy9235 That's crazy that things weren't working on a beta. Surely no game has ever released where things that didn't work on the beta, suddenly worked in the final version... right?
@@SgtPwavous Lets just hope that youre right and it will work on live. But so many things are broken on beta just hours before release you can atleast understand the concerns of the playerbase right?
I'll take the game however it's released. All these people that have made their whole lives they don't have to work they got new cars new houses and it's all because of TH-cam money because of world of Warcraft. Damn cry babies
Dude i literally was sad when i logged on today after pre-patch was live in a new orgrimmar, it just doesn't feel right anymore. I felt like I logged on retail
Right, lmfao. This guy complaining about bugs, suggesting going playing servers that crash multiple times a day and can't even script a lot of content in the game. Just say you don't like blizzard and move on, it's not like you're using their products to make TH-cam content on... oh wait.
*this guy spending weeks saying the pre-patch will be completely unplayable, everything broken, no chance blizzard has anything up in time, the world is ending* Blizzard- "Hey, pre patch is here, but we are missing 2 Hunter's pet abilities and we changed up some guild perks. Oh and we think void storage is kinda pointless because we have a far better system for the way 99.99% of you will VS, so we put that in" This guy- "It's a bitch being right!!!" Lmfao.
I'm admittedly ignorant to what's involved in developing a game ... But this game came out in like 2012 right? They don't just load up the original finished product?
its not that easy these version is optimized for very old hardware and software protocolls and technologies. also classic is since tbc on the Legion launcher . but i myself worked in the software development sphere. i can tell you that we live in a world where money....cant buy you pretty much nothing more. its in every bracket the same. the old, stoic and sophisticated workers are dying and going into retirement and the new only know how to smoke weed and pay for get laied. its not wow only. its everyhwere in society. look amazons multi billli biiillioniare game, a DESASTER, even on a technical level. people dont know anymore if theyre male of fremale, forget everything other. you can endlessly throw money on chimpanzeees, it wont help. ALSO REMEMBER that back in the days. the community was not doing bug TESTING FOR FREE. companies had to actually pay and organise a lot of testers. they figured out that loneley man are willing to pay money to medarte someones channel on twitch xD so they at lest kind and dont charge you money for theyre bugtests.
It's basically a Frankenstein. They're trying to replicate how the game worked during Vanilla/TBC/Wrath and now Cata, on a client that was designed a fair time later (Legion client). So there's a lot of code that can take a while to get functioning the way they want it to, without causing issues somewhere else.
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What’s the old saying? “I’m not Mad, just Disappointed.”
im not mad, im actually impressed.
I’m mad and disappointed. I know I’m not alone when I say I only gave that company my monthly money because of classic. They clearly don’t give a shit so I don’t either. I’ll keep the monthly fee
Blame Sod...
What I think people don't realise is if content creators never made videos criticizing the game, the developers would release the game in an even worse state. Apparently the majority of the wow community believes blizzard shouldn't be held accountable for their poor performance and it's totally justifiable for us to pay 180 dollars a year for an unfinished buggy game.
Unfinished,buggy, 20+ year old game!
I would say that I don't always agree with you and karrot but I do like your videos and watch them all the time so keep up the good work 🙌🙌
The majority of content creators are sell outs and suck blizzard off
😂 brother man ! These have. Even broken since the PG launch of the game and were never fixed for 11 years ok? I know I’ve been here ever since laughing at them as I eat shit playing this stupid game
Hunter pet assist missing and having to visit stable master (for a some time). Void storage not being in the game. 2 stupid guild perks removed and overall guild perks changed. Couldn't give a shit honestly, release the game plz. Not playing Retail ever again or SOD bullshit.
wholeheartedly agree everything he mentioned i couldnt care less about none of the talking points were deal breakers blizz hasnt given a shit for a long time i didnt expect em to start with cata classic lmfao
Blizzard choose to put more effort developing Season of Døgshıt, a watered down version of wow with wotlk and cata abilities than a version of classic that has been running and progressing since 2019. It was fun folks
My entire raiding guild fell apart a week after phase 3 launched.
because season of doghit brings a lot of money for no effort. take classic and put in a BUNCH OF UNBALANCED RANDOM spells that cost from lvl 1 to 50 5 mana and do some damage. its just a random copy pasta.
@@dreamsteal4773 probably because they finally realized what I could see before sod started... The quirky abilities and warlock tank and mage healing shit would get old fast and at the end of the day, the dungeons and raids just aren't that fun to play. The content is boring.
@@DerKnusperhase SoD is just a mass scale PTR realm disguised as content xD they are just testing shit I swear for classic+
@@NoradNoxtus we dont know. but i would not be surprised. BUT we know that its extremley random. ist a clusterfuck off puting everything the can think of just unchecked into the game.
Oh my god, the pre-patch is so bad.
I hit 68 in 3 battlegrounds and my profession screen is showing Hunter spells. 😅
Mines show my profession at 0. Better fix it or a lot of wow subs going to be dropping
wtf lol, is the legel bug still available? cuz im rly not tryna pay for a boost
@Cvez7 Boosting a Character to Level 80 Does Not Retain Profession Levels. Blizzard did not make this aware when buying the product and all data was lost.
I am so completely disappointed and crestfallen over this. The chance they had to completely change people's perspective on this oft-maligned expansion and it's already miss after miss before the expansion even officially launches.
sounds like all of the changes being made from the original are not quality of life changes but done out of laziness.
I was so hyped to farm guild reputation and unlock new features likes the mass rez and mass summon... I'm so disappointed. Why let the expension go out this way ? The pre patch is supposed to be an event in itself, and it just feel like I'm playing on the PTR...
Blood queen lanathel didn't bite anyone this week too which caused my guild to get no infusion this week on our like 11th shadowmourne out of 2 groups
Oh no I won't earn perks for climbing the ranks of a guild I was mass invited to the second I create a new character.
the void storage was never intended to hold nostalgia items, it was always intended to hold items for transmog purposes
which is no longer required
guild changes are good. Cash flow removal is a huge stopper for cesspool guilds existing. Have group. Will Travel was abused back in the day, would be doubly abused today. that's why they removed it originally in retail lmao, apart from the broken bugs which I do agree with, this video is clearly dooming for doomers sake.
Also these guild changes help smaller guilds, who had very little hope of getting the perks as quick as bigger guilds.
This. I brought that up on another comment. Everyone wanted to be in a level 25 guild. If you were in a guild that just started or was say level 11 then you’d find recruiting very difficult to impossible
They literally give "trophies from past conquests", "vanity holiday items", and "sentimental reasons" as things that Void Storage was intended for in the official Blizzard post announcing the original feature. What are you yapping about?
as someone who never played wow originally these things complaints seem so minor lol
I have only started wow classic tbc and retail dragon flight. So im excited to experience this expac for yhe forst time.
While I agree, this is what blizz wants us to think
Been playing prepatch for a bit and if cata is anything like how fun it is right now I'm gonna have a blast
Some are minor. Guild Levels were a huge feature of Cataclysm. It wasn't perfectly balanced or executed, but it was a satisfying thing to do. I enjoyed it a lot. I wish they capitalized on it, pushing it in a better direction, but instead they scrapped it right after Cataclysm. It was a great opportunity to experience it again.
I just logged it and indeed it's mostly broken, even the character stats screen is broken, you literally can't see your stats. You can still track ammos on the minimap, they're not a thing of the game anymore. I can't track half of the quests on the side for no reason. And I've been playing for 15 minutes.
There are always going to be bugs in any pre patch new or old, besides the leave party bug I was dungeon spamming. No use being mad every 5 seconds when things don't go people's ways.
Appreciate the content however mass res for healers =/= have group will travel for warlocks.
Classic prog is significantly worsened due to wipe recovery which mass res helps greatly to fix whereas have group will travel is far more impactful (tbt to summoning multiple 40man raids inside Orgrimmar).
Not saying HGWT shouldn't exist but giving it to purely Warlocks is a far more impactful choice compared to giving all healers quicker wipe recovery
They literally released a blue post now confirming all the glitches, they knew this was beyond bug and still released it
Yes, when your upper management head inside of ass boss lays out a firm deadline for investors, the customer facing employees in the company have to work extra hard to try and keep the public happy while knowing there was never a chance they would be due to the state of launch. As it is with 99.9% of all launches.
Still waiting for the "not good" part...
I am happy with all this, lovely. Keep it up Blizz.
With everything that's completely broken, missing, in the wrong place, even after the beta being around, I just wish the game would run as smoothly as wrath did. I assume it's a bug but only on one character every time I use an ability like flight form my frame rate drops 10 frames and I cannot figure out why. It's super annoying... People defending Blizzard aren't helping either but I'm glad that someone made a video at least. There's complete silence from a lot of wow creators right now.
Fully agree with your point of view. Blizzard is becoming a meme at this point.
I’ve seen this coming and I’m not surprised , I’ve been spam refreshing Aggrend’s Twitter for months and I haven’t seen any cata news just SoD . They literally left cata for the last minute and it’s showing now
While it's not fully cooked I don't know if I could mentally tolerate going into ICC for the millionth time so I'll take being a live beta tester over that
They did this because they wanted to immediately release MOP classic.
But I prefer it if vanilla, tbc, and wotlk are reset using the classic+ method
The Wrath client updated to build 54881 which is the beta/ptr build with most of the stuff still broken. They are releasing a live game with a broken beta build.
If Cata Classic flops hard I'm going to try the leveling in retail.
And if SoD is going to go into Burning Crusade I'm switching to that in an instant.
Good to have options I guess...
I just don't think they care about pre patch. They are treating prepatch like an extended beta, but that doesn't mean cata won't be fun. The content is there, and I have a feeling people are getting very bored of sod, so many sod players will try out cata, and so will retail players as they wait for the new expansion.
Tbc was the best
any word on if were getting the pre nerf version of cata heroics or the post nerf version?
it was post nerf from what everyone noticed and i think they said it was not sure tho
@@SteveJohnson-d1d bummer
Don't quote me on this but wrath classic launched on the final balance patch, so I assume they will take the same approach here. So the raids and dungeons will be in their most nerfed state, and same with any class tuning.
The raids all launched in their original difficulty no? And then they nerfed after@@stillnotchill2560
Post nerf
Shareholders want payment, it can't get any more simple than that, so it's rushed and cash shop is released.
well it seems a lot of class talents buggeed as well - for example my favourite - BDK with improved blood presence get 0% to rune regen and chance to be critically hit increased by 100% :)
Hear me out, they set up Cata for failure so they stop at it. MoP is coming as remix, so will legion in future. Cata will be the last classic release, and after that they will keep reiterating on vanilla
Man I hope they have permanent MoP classic realms. I had so much fun that expansion with the farms, being able to get the legendary cloaks, and doing mythic siege of orgrimmar.
remix is timewalking, people need to wrap their heads around it. don't get me wrong I plan to level 4 alts in mop remix but that's all it's actually good for, 556 ilvl alts / rare mount farming(something I have zero interest in) it's not an actual replacement for what we have in the classic side of wow atm
@@NoradNoxtusremember to play brittle it’s OP😂😂
you are %100 right, why even bother playing wow with games like Star Citizen getting more polished everyday.
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one point, we dont speculate why cash flow and mass port is not implemented oO everyone should know it. Cash flow would further enhance the inflation. and mass port is really dangerous in some cases for abuse bosses in raid any so on. What I think you can clearly see with this announcment is, as video said, blizz is really rushing here and scrap things because they doint have time. Otherwise a fairly easy change with mass port would be that all meeting stones behave like mass port and I wish they would implement it and then in retail as well
Jó napot & welcome back!
I lvling a Hunter now and this shit sucks, I hate that Blizzard actively destroying A Game a love and paying fucking monthly for!
I actually have zero problem with the guild changes. With all of the other time sinks involved this is just one less thing to have to worry about. And considering we are cramming this expansion into 9 months? Give me the perks, ive earned it dealing with these nerds for years.
Man the pre-patch has so many issues, its like they are intentionally sabotaging cata.
They will probably fix it in later patches the same way they fixed flying mounts in Dalaran
About wogens in barbershop yeah cause there was major bugs with the two characters options
They’re more invested into SoD and Retail than Classic, atm, it feels like.
And still SoD is a clownfiesta in terms of actual content.. Lazy game design and stupid players once again praising blizzard...
Cataclysm is essentially Harry Potter in the cupboard to Blizzard. They don't give a flying broom about it.
Seriously how do u mess this up it’s been like 14 years. We wanted og classic the way it was and they just decided let’s change everything the last 3 classic games 🤦♂️
Well actually this feature was introduced in a late patch anyway.. so that’s what they’re doing this time round
I'm not surprised in the least about any of this. Most of the classic andys were never gonna play cata anyways because "it's just retail now." Vanilla to wotlk is widely accepted and considered to be "real" classic, even wotlk is pushing it for some people. So, blizzard just not caring about the state of cata sucks, but it's not really surprising or unexpected.
Guys remember that the ring of blood quest in tanaris gadgetzan has been broken and bugged since the OG cata ! 😂 they have always been a shitty company we support for some reason
My guess is they probably had a massive downturn in subscriptions and this early unexpected release of cata was their way of damage control.
How is something they released over a decade ago even buggier now than it was then 😭
I as first thought Void Storage was useless. However I have that damn Carrot on the Stick that I keep on every Alt. I just love that thing from way back in Original. Yes, I would love to put it in void storage. And not destroy it.
Void storage was never a quality product! the fact they have removed it is a great move.
i too enjoy having less bank space for no reason
There is zero reason to not include Void Storage other than they can’t get it working.
@@brandonkruse6412 theres zero reason to include it, so why build something back in when there is a far better system in place now?
@@MrSyla5
Because it was in the original version of the game. Because Cataclysm removes thousands of legacy items from the game; which many people have been collecting with the expectation that they’ll have void storage to de-clutter their banks for all the new junk that Cataclysm brings. Because it’s a minor gold sink but one nonetheless.
It may not be significant to you but it’s silly to just remove QoL from the expansion that emphasizes QoL. Having the collection journal doesn’t help people that want to actually keep their Soulbound items.
Keep in mind, Blizzard isn’t removing anything because they think it’s a good idea. It’s because they can’t get it working. They’re drowning in bugs right now.
@@brandonkruse6412 have we not learnt from Classic/tbc/wrath that not all things that were in the orignal have a place any more?
in terms of items people have been collecting they will be appearing in the appearance tab once cata goes live so not sure how you wont still declutter your bank? Pretty sure if you have the item you dont lose it just because it no longer is going to be available?
Void Storage was never really QoL it was a pain in the backside and made the process of obtaining transmog even more labourious then it needed to be, it was just the optimal solution that they had at the time.
I know there's bugs galore right now I and many others will have spells just randomly dissappear from hot bars and spellbook reloading or relogging don't fix the issue
I started playing this game when it first came out long ago. We ran literally everywhere and it took forever to level. I stopped playing for years and forgot password, never used the email and lost everything. I found going back for a visit to the game how much I missed it, how much I lost for mounts lol as I did play up to Panda land HA but it's over kill expensive for a game so won't be playing and remember my Leroy Jenkins days when it was the bomb..
Simple copy and paste would've been a better option for them
Right?? That's what I'm saying, wth is wrong with them
they cant copy paste from a older client when current wotlk client is running legion client.
@@Xiangxia-b9l important information nobody mentions
how u fill void storage on retail wow i have no idea when you can have 8 32 slot bags in ur own bank
also cash flow started the cesspool of nonstop spam invite guilds with the owner wanting to just farm gold of people leveling and the mass summon was used because people would use it to skip loads and loads of trash in raids.
cash flow would also be MASSIVELY abused by bots
I was sooooo excited for classic cata… this won’t be classic cata. I canceled my sub
I really was looking forward to do the guild leveling with my guildies. For me that is a ton of content that just got scrapped. I know, I still can do content with my guild, but it's not the same without the accomplishment of guild level progression.
I think the problem is that you start encountering recruit problems when everyone wants to be in a level 25 guild and you’re only level 10 or 11
That was a big issue back in the day and small guilds died off pretty fast.
don't forget about the magically secret build they have... they just aren't letting us know or showing us..
All the guys that said he was fear mongering in the last video are gonna be realy quit today
He 100% is fear mongering lmao. We are talking about a tiny change to hunter's pets in fucking pre patch
@@SgtPwavous that's my exact thought. this dude is 1000% negative, constantly. scotte jaye seems to provide more balanced views on shit. if what he listed was all that was wrong, that's fucking drops in the bucket.
@@SgtPwavous
I hope you’re joking right? Tiny change? The ability to carry 5 pets outside of the stable was one of the biggest QoL improvements for Hunter.
Btw, it’s not a change. They just haven’t updated the Call Pet 1-5 system yet. They literally said that it’s going to be updated closer to the launch so it’s 100% a bug.
@@Iggybart05
No offense but unless you’ve personally played the PTR, why are yall commenting on the state of it?
There are over 500 bugs on the GitHub at the moment and we’re 5 hours from launch. Many of these are core class mechanics and major expansion features.
Like only Druids flying having the ability to fly in Azeroth.
@@brandonkruse6412 Oh sorry you're right, a QoL change for Hunter's isn't ready- we should delay the entire timeline until we get that fixed. How would you guys live if for 20 days of pre patch you have to keep doing what you've been doing for 3 years now. My apologies
Sounds about like every industry these days. Just par for the course. Shit on your employees, shit on your customer and shit on your product, so you can have money NOW. Who cares that you are shitting on your brand and losing future income.
We don't love that things are broken, but this is a super doomer take. I also am rly worried they are going to fuck up Cata cus well I have eyes, and I've played SoD, but this post rly is not that bad. Ya can't flip a table every time Blizzard communicates. They will just go back to not listening.
Cata looking good
It’s a game. Calm down. I logged in and killed a boss, seems good to me.
Honestly this channel used to have very useful info it now to me just feels nit picking beyond now and is boring sorry😂
Considering ActiBlizzard history, you are a gullible person if you expected anything else then what we got with Cata pre patch launch.
Tbh there are less bugs then i expected, also it shows how good the game was back then if people are willing to pay 15bucks a month to play a buggy game.
So as he said. It's a broken buggy mess with stuff we've reported in beta since it launched. But hey, he was "dOoMsAyInG'. It's a dogshit release from a dogshit company.
HG. WT perk gone is to stop abuse, Cash Flow stops guild invite spam for good. Void storage? Who cares, gimme that collection tab any day over that dumb extra spaces. Guild leveling gone is a good thing in my book, too. We're a small guild of a couple friends and now we're free to continue being so without fomo on guild perks. Worgen can't use the barber? Play a human like every basic b*tch. Or better yet, roll the right faction. And hunter should get their pets removed all together. Nothing good ever came from pet classes anyway.
People who havent even tried SoD commenting on it 😂. Typical toxic ignorant WoW players repeating what theyve heard other ignorant people say. Go spend time with your friends and family irl and touch grass, imagine being that depressed you try to spread it around in a game.
I'm confused wasn't this expansion released 14 years ago? Why are they having so much trouble lol. Having to test and have things ready? You already had it ready 14 years ago can we just launch the final version and move on.
ive been playing the beta all morning and everything seems fine to me I havent had any issues, If hunters only being able to have 1 pet at a time and no void storage is such a big deal to you then maybe dont play cata
They literally released a blue post now confirming all the glitches, they knew this beyond bugging and still released it
@@renebaan7430 Oh no! its not perfect I cant believe it this being the only game to ever launch with bugs we should totally push back the launch until its literally perfect!!! how could they do this to us!
Did you even queue for a dungeon? It's completely busted
Is this all the problems with launch? If so seems like an overreaction. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy your content. But seems extra. Should blizzard have had all these problems fixed yeah 100%. But telling players to go join a private server meh. If blizzard wanted to those could get shut down also. I mean does blizzard mess up yeah but in reality they didn’t have to do any of this for the community I think most forget that. Classic server, Hardcore Server, and Season of discovery.
I take back what i said there is way more then those problems going on right now in prepatch lol
@@jcarbs2472 Why do you still pay for that? smh
@@TurboExit I play the game cause I enjoy playing with the people I have met over the years. There will be problems with every MMO game but I’m not going to quit over some shit prepatch that will get fixed.
@@jcarbs2472 Cool. Yet there's no point whining about this stuff because Blizzard is a company that doesn't give a shit. The only thing they care about is the bottomline. It's as simple as that.
So what's the point of complaining about Blizzard's actions, again?
Super disappointed about no void storage. You hit the nail right on the head. My old tier gear or now unobtainable pieces that I raided for weeks to get with all the gems and enchants or what not still in tact is not the same as just it being in the "appearences" tab, and what about some of the fun things that can't be transmogged like those not in your armor class or holiday items? Just pure laziness on Blizzard's part.
Are you just throwing those pieces of gear on randomly or...? Legit can't think of 1 reason you'd keep a piece of gear (outside of trinkets / legendaries / cool proc weapons) besides just appearance. After all, isn't the point of equipping it because it looks cool? You can now do that without taking up 100s of bag slots. Don't see why you'd be upset with this
@@SgtPwavous Because it's a feature that was added in Cataclysm and is still in retail yet for some reason missing in "classic" cataclysm, they claim it's because we don't need it when it's clearly because they were too lazy or inept to implement it properly. I keep stuff like old tier sets or trinkets or unobtainable pieces I like them in item form, not reduced to part of a UI in the collections tab and as I mentioned there are other things that can't be added to the collection tab that I like to keep around.
Yeah they should've waited till the end of the year for sure 😅
Not sure about how I feel about this level of rant from a dude with standard ui and auto attack bound to a hotkey.
I love how Blizzard is cutting major features from Cataclysm because they can’t get them working and excusing it as intentional design decisions.
There's no way you just referred to void storage (a throw away addition added in 4.3 because they added transmog and people needed bag space for gear) a "Major feature" lmfao
@@SgtPwavous
Where in my comment did I once refer to Void Storage? Even though it was a big quality of life update whether you interacted with it or not.
There’s literally 500+ bugs on the PTR build that haven’t been touched and the list of things getting scrapped continues to grow.
But... You will still buy and support it, right? So what is the point of complaining?
Good to know the blatant clickbait thumbnails will lead to crap ragebait videos. At least your content is easy to avoid lol
dude i was borderline debating subscribing to you, but you are so over the top dramatic. if what you listed is the bulk of what's wrong with cata, we're fucking fine.
Yeah this click baity garbage is so annoying. No wonder he can’t build an audience
I agree
Nah he's good for giving opinion but yeah definitely font agree with void storage stuff. Void storage is unnecessary and the gold cost was always crazy for whst it is
We are so fine bro mages doing 500k dps, battlegrounds take you to max level with 2 wins from lvl10, guild chat not working, pet bars disappearing after relogs this is fine bro do not subscribe hes being dramatic
He's not very good at content creating is he?
BG honor is fucked too
So salty. It’s gonna be ok my friend.
blizzard is probably focused on xpac > mop remix > 10.2.7 > sod phase 4 > cata class in that order. i wouldn't be surprised if less than 20 people were actually working on cata classic at this point
mr. doom n gloom videos.
exactly what I was thinking these complaints are so unimportant
Blizzard has failed so bad and really showed how bad things are going with them now. i unsubbed 2 weeks ago from auction house bots, so bad that specific bots was being talked about in LFG and after months of reporting nothing ever happened. leveling bots and farming bots dont bother me but BG bots and Auction bots is unacceptable. sub dont run out till feb 2025. i dont even feel like playing till then. Quit cata originally three months in. and im ready to quit now because they released this crap. what a run down company stripped company. never goin back to retail and never gunna play SoD. wtg blizz pat yourselfs on the back. on the bright side, the sun feels ohhh so goood
This is so dramatic lmfao. You really think they should delay the entire timeline because Hunter pet function isn't ready for the pre patch?? This reminds me of people who thought OG Classic was going to be unplayable because the debuff limit was going above 15 lol. It's pre patch. Nothing matters. It lasts a whopping 20 days. You'll live mate
If only that was the only thing broken with hunters 😢
You would expect a little bit more from the multi dollar company but you can just wait until pre-patch hits and see that your shit is broken. Pets were straight up not working on the beta last night less than 20 hours before pre-patch. All the content that was cut and and removed or "added in later updates" screams that they are either short on manpower or just dont give a fuck about it and Im not sure which one is worse.
Its not about the hunter pets, its about 100 other things they fucked up and havent fixed.
@@tamasnagy9235 That's crazy that things weren't working on a beta. Surely no game has ever released where things that didn't work on the beta, suddenly worked in the final version... right?
@@SgtPwavous Lets just hope that youre right and it will work on live. But so many things are broken on beta just hours before release you can atleast understand the concerns of the playerbase right?
Really gonna die on the Void Storage Hill??? I would say that is the last thing to waste a video on.
Surprise a giant greedy corporation is lazy and cheap too
How are they unable to rerelease an already complete game? Come on mate private servers can do it so should blizzard...
I'll take the game however it's released. All these people that have made their whole lives they don't have to work they got new cars new houses and it's all because of TH-cam money because of world of Warcraft. Damn cry babies
It wouldn't be a microsoft game if it wasn't pushed tpoo soon badly developed and bug ridden.
Dude i literally was sad when i logged on today after pre-patch was live in a new orgrimmar, it just doesn't feel right anymore. I felt like I logged on retail
People have been telling you 😂 Cata is retail
Just play private servers? Really man? Jesus...
Right, lmfao. This guy complaining about bugs, suggesting going playing servers that crash multiple times a day and can't even script a lot of content in the game. Just say you don't like blizzard and move on, it's not like you're using their products to make TH-cam content on... oh wait.
@@SgtPwavous At least its free, here you are paying full price to get unfinished half assed piece of shit. You gained 50 lvls after 1 wsg gtfo...
How about this, if you don't like what's going on with the upcoming patch - don't play it.
this prepatch launch will BE THE WORST PREPATCH LAUNCH in 20 years of blizzard history
With the amount youre complaining. You better not play cata.
This has nothing to do with Cata as such. It's about a product quality.
*this guy spending weeks saying the pre-patch will be completely unplayable, everything broken, no chance blizzard has anything up in time, the world is ending*
Blizzard- "Hey, pre patch is here, but we are missing 2 Hunter's pet abilities and we changed up some guild perks. Oh and we think void storage is kinda pointless because we have a far better system for the way 99.99% of you will VS, so we put that in"
This guy- "It's a bitch being right!!!"
Lmfao.
Blizzard: Don't have group, will not travel! You: Have whine, will travel!
the whine is real
grow up, really, these ranting videos are lolz
I want a fresh server :(
so you are not going to play then right?
Yikes...
Very surprising - Said no one
I'm admittedly ignorant to what's involved in developing a game ... But this game came out in like 2012 right? They don't just load up the original finished product?
It ran on a different client. With Legion they changed it.
its not that easy these version is optimized for very old hardware and software protocolls and technologies. also classic is since tbc on the Legion launcher . but i myself worked in the software development sphere. i can tell you that we live in a world where money....cant buy you pretty much nothing more. its in every bracket the same. the old, stoic and sophisticated workers are dying and going into retirement and the new only know how to smoke weed and pay for get laied. its not wow only. its everyhwere in society. look amazons multi billli biiillioniare game, a DESASTER, even on a technical level. people dont know anymore if theyre male of fremale, forget everything other. you can endlessly throw money on chimpanzeees, it wont help. ALSO REMEMBER that back in the days. the community was not doing bug TESTING FOR FREE. companies had to actually pay and organise a lot of testers. they figured out that loneley man are willing to pay money to medarte someones channel on twitch xD so they at lest kind and dont charge you money for theyre bugtests.
It's basically a Frankenstein. They're trying to replicate how the game worked during Vanilla/TBC/Wrath and now Cata, on a client that was designed a fair time later (Legion client). So there's a lot of code that can take a while to get functioning the way they want it to, without causing issues somewhere else.
@@kelltik2000 true. also modern graphiccards from rtx 4080 upwards have heavy problems with the lighting effects in wotlk.
Void storage is completely irrelevant with the collections tab being added. I think you are over reacting a bit with this video man. Lol.
Void storage has nothing to do with collections tab. Why do people think it is only for transmog? I keep vanity items in it to this day on retail.
They did not read the patch notes... seriously...
Pre patch is always a shit show.
Crybaby echo chamber. Y’all go outside