Western Historical Critical Method || Muslim Historians Toolkit || Dr Jonathan Brown

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  • @alib7489
    @alib7489 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jazakallah Khair

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  • @sabriya7647
    @sabriya7647 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent Informative talk

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  • @tomimn2233
    @tomimn2233 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I woulda loved to see that intro tho.

  • @abbasr.7422
    @abbasr.7422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we now still safely say (some) hadith are 100% reliably traceable back to the prophet or not (especially hadith that deals with laws or advice that will take a huge courage to follow and goes against common sense but since the prophet said it, we must follow)? How do we know as a laymen? Since scholars can quote this hadith and the audience has no say in the matter.

    • @fab03102
      @fab03102 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Very often "common sense" is actually cultural norm deep down. Cultures get things badly wrong, and modern western culture is certainly no exception. Muslim/Bukhari hahiths are probably something like 98 or 99% reliable.

    • @Reewnat
      @Reewnat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hopefully, a Muslim will rely upon total trust of the Prophet (sallahu alayhi wasalaam) and almost total trust of his Companions and the Predecessors and then the 3rd gen.
      Thereafter, the science of Muslims examining and critiquing scholars is well documented. That was taken very seriously as biographies do not hold back on pointing out deficiencies of transmitters. Additionally the analysis of the substance of the text ran parallel. Next, the compiling into the various types of hadith literature provided another consistent vehicle. Lastly, we have the grading of hadiths from false to near infallible. Taken together, the level of review and scrupulousness of this process provides a level of near unprecedented reliability compared to any other people's history and religious text. In the end, history is reliant upon trust of people who came before, their reliability, and that of the consistency of the text.
      I feel secure in what we know of the hadith. Interpretation within context is something else, and alhumdulillah, we have Fiqh and the different madhabs that provide a broad, merciful breadth that has worked across time and cultures.

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  • @ribeirojorge5064
    @ribeirojorge5064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Secularism is Not a Step Forward in Civilization Evolution but a Step Backwards
    But
    Secularism is One Step Backwards in order to Human Consciousness Give Three Steps Forward in Authentic Religiosity ❤️ 💚 💜

    • @stephenconnolly1830
      @stephenconnolly1830 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Secular approaches aren't necessarily a step backwards. The Prophet himself stated as much, e.g. when he questioned the farmers of Medina about their pollination methods admitting they knew their affairs better than he did; similarly so at the battle of Badr concerning the positioning of the Muslims in relation to the wells there.
      Secularism promulgated as an ideology antithetical to other viewpoints IS a backwards step, however. But this is true of any 'ism isn't it?!

    • @ribeirojorge5064
      @ribeirojorge5064 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stephenconnolly1830
      Is it Truly possible to Separate the Activities of Everyday Life from God ???
      Is it possible to Separate ourselves from the Consciousness of Life and the Soul of the Earth ???Except by a Dysfunctional Dissociation of Mind from Soul and Spirit ...

  • @ribeirojorge5064
    @ribeirojorge5064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Universe is Not a Hierarchical Pyramid of Mathematic Quantities
    The Universe is a Holarchic Sphere of Spheres of Consciousness Qualities
    From the UnConscious Hell ❤️
    To the Conscious Hell 💚
    Until the Paradise of Consciousness 💜
    Timeless and Formless Consciousness Shines in the Form in Time ❤️ 💚 💜

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  • @stephenconnolly1830
    @stephenconnolly1830 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem of Ayesha's marriage age is that if she was 9 years old, as these non-prophetic narrations report, this contradicts the Qur'anic instruction to reserve such a union for mature women per Surah al-Nisa', Ayat 3-6. In other words, because Ayesha was a minor the Prophet wouldn't and couldn't marry her for this reason. And Abu Bakr couldn't and wouldn't contract his pre-pubescent daughter to marry the Prophet similarly so.

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    • @siegfriiied
      @siegfriiied 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there’s a narration where Aisha herself says when a girl becomes nine she is a woman. If has been reported amongst the scholars that many women of that time reached maturity around that age.

    • @MohamedShou
      @MohamedShou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “Ayesha was a minor” why are you using 20th and 21st century secular liberal language and back project that in the 7th century?

  • @TheEnd-um7yd
    @TheEnd-um7yd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s universal principles not “western”. The laws for physics don’t magically change as soon as you step foot in the Middle East.

    • @Blackbeard1222
      @Blackbeard1222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You can’t tell the difference between laws of physics and a HISTORICAL method, btw which are still very different NOWADAYS regarding what school of thought you follow ? Ever heard of maximalists, minimalists, traditionists, skeptics… please try being humble and at least try knowing a little bit about the subject before expressing yourself. That’s embarrassing.

    • @ezzy2254
      @ezzy2254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't equate the precise and mathematical laws of physics to the very conjectural and contextual methods of western historical criticism.
      This sort or equivalence existed even in the time of Ibn Qutayba and Al-Ghazali if you read their works, reductionists and false rationalists never fail to commit this error

    • @MohamedShou
      @MohamedShou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So which “principles” are universal? Because I know damn well secular liberalism is not “universal” mate