You mean return them to the schools. So true. We learned this when I went to school back in 'the dark ages'. I will pray you keep your position; we need more like you making policy for public schools.
We taught our children about Hegel's Dialectical Methodology and how it shapes education and society. Kant and Hegel after him produced our current Postmodern Post-Christian day.
Hey Ken a question if you see this. Regarding Fossil Fuels. My 19 year old son says dinosaurs and plant life over billions of years created oil, gas and coal. I always tell him Genesis says otherwise and these resources were always here. Of course my competition is every single science resource says other wise. DO you have another answer I can parlay with Genesis?
I shared this with my granddaughter. She is in public high school. I am grateful for her first 9 years in Christian schools. Too bad her Christian middle school made the academics so overtaxing that she chose to go secular.
I would give my eyeteeth to have my grandaughters in Christian centered academia with higher tougher standards. Secular “education “ is so dumbed down that the average high school graduate is overwhelmed beyond capability if you give them an extra penny to round out the purchase. 😮 That’s no exaggeration.
You have chosen to define Race to your benefit rather than common dictionaries. It is also interesting that five times in Revelation, John sees believers from every tribe, ethnicity, nation and language. Yes, we are all descendants of Adam and Eve but it would appear that John saw visible traits that were eternal and by most definitions, make up our diverse and wonderful races.
@JohnMark1313 - BINGO! Ken Ham is extremely good on so many things about Genesis and creation, but for some reason he is utterly blind as to there being more than one race. I can only guess that he married a negro (Aboriginal) woman or an oriental. Seems that Ken Ham has never read Jeremiah 13:23. It seems that Ken has never heard about the several lawsuits brought by ORIENTAL/Asian/mongoloid students against colleges for giving Negroid (Black) students extra (unearned points) on entrance examinations. Recently the SCOTUS agreed with the several Oriental / Asian/ Mongoloid students on that issue. Orientals almost always do the best academically in High School, then Caucasoids / Indians - from India/ Pakistan region) then Hispanics/American Indians, then Negroids. If there are no "races" then how does Ken Ham and anyone who "Liked" his message account for the low scores versus the high and medium scores on Military written Entrance tests and College entrance tests for many decades of certain members of racial-ethnic groups?
And all dogs are descended from wolves and now a rottweiler behaves like a golden retriever or a husky behaves like a German shepherd ? ... no, because they are different races with different dispositions, it's the same for all mammals ... also for humans ...
That's called reality... something that some probably don't want to see... anyone who doesn't even want to see the difference between ethnicities, between races is as far away from reality as the other perverts who believe there is no difference between men and women ...
Not finding anything in that chapter to your point. Perhaps you recall it incorrectly - Adam was not 'deceived'. Both Adam and Eve transgressed by eating the apple and the resulting consequence was as YHWH Elohim stated. Eve changed what God had "Ye shall not eat of it, *neither shall ye touch it* , lest ye die." The instruction was given to Adam before Eve was even brought forth. Adam was right there with her and didn't correct Eve, nor rebuke the serpent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. 1Tim 2:13-14 It's intriguing to imagine this scene in the garden, there is even more going on than first appears. Shalom Joseph!
Is our desire to sacrifice future generations by hoping for incomprehensible death, destruction and finality, enough of a denial of family? After that ‘glorious’ day, imagine who might have been if there was no God?
Well we've seen through history the less religious a country is the more it becomes depraved people look to fullfill there own desires not caring about other people's or society laws suicide goes up because there's no signs of purposes drugs and things you try to use it to full your the God you talking the person who stopped drugs gangsterism and people who go to jail change become better people are that guy if you understand helps you through your darkest times
Its really simple,.just read your bibles. You can take slaves from the neighboring tribes, but dont take slaves from within your tribe. Then, you can beat those slaves, as long as they dont die.
When did God say that I think levicticus but the Bible is split into civil laws, moral laws and seromonial laws that was a specific law God gave to jews at the time there slaves were more like workers they couldnt beat had to feed and eventually release
True, but let's not forget that before there was sin in the world, there was the devil. "But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils." (1 Cor. 10:20) P.S. I've noticed an alarming trend with google search, if you enter a partial verse into the search box, google spams you with INTERPRETATIONS of the verse before showing you the actual verse and verse number. They are trying to brainwash Christians / plant first impressions onto interested seekers!!!!!
The Tower of Babel was a fun story to read. They were idiots who didn't understand the problem with staying in one area. God did them a favor. Sadly, today, we're repeating, to a degree, the mistake that they made.
IT'S the same with Joseph and Moses story they were supposed to inherite that land of cananate after getting food supplies and living in Egypt until the food shortage ended but instead deciding to stay there making it there home until a terranicle king came and rose and then they start begging to God but they weren't even suppose to be there if the listened
Ken, you make a lot of good points. But, there is a lot of information left out. Yes, God created one man. When He created that man, he also created the rib which was later made a woman, a help meet for Adam's need. The woman, Eve had the same bone structure as did Adam. Noah had the same bone structure as Adam although his skin color was different than Adam's. Yet his DNA, if you so will give me liberty to say, was the same as Adam's. He was the issue of Adam. Noah's three sons left the ark with him, and by them were all people of the earth born. So we're all the descendants of Noah, the son of Adam, and of one of his three sons. They all had the same bone structure. In the land today, we have those who have a different bone structure. That's been scientifically proven many times. Sad as that is, it happened somehow. I've heard of bone mutation, yet in my understanding, the bone mutation extremity it would take for the difference that prevails, could not happen in the few years we've been here. I am not sure if a person had bone mutation, then had a child, would the mutation exist in the child? I know if a person lost a hand, then had a child, the child would have two hands at birth. I have seen that first hand. So something happened to cause the different bone structures. It may be the marriage supper of the Lamb before we know for sure. The tower of Babble split the people from unity, but it didn't change the bone structure. Different climates may have changed skin color, but it didn't change bone structure. Bone mutation may happen, but I don't see it making the drastic change as is in the bone structures. As Jesus said, seek and ye shall find, I am seeking. God bless.
Eve was the mother of all living because she was the mother of Jesus and only through him can anyone live. Other than that, they that are not the people of God, are not a people at all. 1 Peter 2:10. Only through Jesus can we become the people of God. Jesus is the one who makes us alive, or living. Therefore, Eve being his mother(He took on him the seed of Abraham, not the nature of angels Hebrews 2:16) she was the mother of all living. Now to say it means all living on the earth in the natural. Genesis 1:30 proclaims that the beast of the earth, the fowl of the air, and the creeping things that creep upon the earth have life. So Eve was not their mother. So that light is wrong. Well, it only means the humans on this earth you might say. But we must remember, Adam said that after the tree meal. That is after the fall, or the death. As Adam died, separated from the spiritual life he had in the garden, he came to life in the carnal which we are all born in before we become born again. That was when he, being dead spiritually, was serving the devil which was a liar from the beginning. Therefore it is no wonder that he would make such a statement meaning one way, while God was telling us in another meaning, that the Messiah would come. Thanks for letting me sound off.
Genesis tells us creation was In Eden, not even on earth. Humans can be 6000 years from the fall but when Adam fell he fell to earth which might indeed be billions of years old. It doesn't matter, we fell 6000 years ago, it doesn't say God created the earth at that moment.
Genesis tells us that Eden had four rivers, two of which are the Tigris and the Euphrates, which puts its location in the Middle East, possibly spanning modern day Iran, Jordan, Iraq, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria. Anthropology calls this region the Fertile Crescent because it’s where human agriculture first originated. Which comports with the geography of the Biblical account in Genesis. The Fall doesn’t refer to a physical falling from the sky to earth, but to humanity’s fall from a state of innocence to a state of sin when Adam and Eve disobey God by eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden. We were barred from Eden because sin separates us from God. The entry of sin into the world brought physical death and eternal death (separation from God in Hell.) Separation implies the need for reconciliation. On the cross, Jesus made the way for sinful human beings to be reconciled to Him by dying on a tree in our place, and rising again with the promise that if we repent of our sin to Him and trust in His goodness and in His substitutionary death in our place, we can enjoy friendship with God again, both in the life to come and right now. Pretty cool huh? I urge you to read the Bible yourself and see what I’m saying is true. Genesis, the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John), and the book of Romans are good places to start. God’s Word is the best true story you’ll ever read.
Eden was on Earth as God had just created it. Why can’t we just read Genesis as it is plainly written? Why must we add layers of complexity to God’s word in order to fit in the deep-time narrative?
I thought - "There is only 1!" Seriously. The fact that certain people keep bringing this stupid topic up as if they were really affected by it is what's keeping the stupid idea alive.
The fact that Ken is using human breeding of dogs to show how bad evolution is, shows how uneducated Ken is!!!! Poodles don't shed hair and are hypo allergic, poodles are highly trained and great service dogs (it's why circuses used them a lot), poodles are better swimmers than wolves and great foal hunting dogs. Wolves aren't even close to these traits like poodles, where did that information come from?
He wants to say that there are primordial animals and that from those animals they evolved, or they did not evolve due to loss of information. But the reality is that in regard to animals, humans have controlled this involution. And the reality is that the reverse process is more difficult or extremely difficult, even impossible. Obviously, from the same family, or chosen families (that is, you don't know how to reconstruct the basic information), you won't get genes that "stick", and offer major changes through adaptation. There is another problem of reversing the process by the fact that when you take superior, i.e. original, genes and transform them, it is more difficult to restore them, meaning that something complex can always be "easier" to destroy but very difficult to rebuild. That is, solutions are found more easily in opening opportunities even without much knowledge and looking for solutions in time, than in remaking very rarely manifested ideas, which lead to big leaps. These are very difficult to obtain, because they are very difficult to "build". On the other hand, small ideas are always at hand, those that create opportunities for investigation and research into the possibilities of future realities.
It is a way of saying that evolution, from the origins of species, only means a transformation with the accumulation of new information, but also loss of information, but more loss than change. But that doesn't mean it's something negative. I mean, from the beginning of evolution, the genes were more "dense", and then they kept combining, losing information by species.
If you actually listen to Ken , instead of yourself, he makes it very easy to understand. All species were created with adaptive gene pools for their survival by our God.
@@SherryClarkI Until god has been demonstrated to be real, Ken's answer of "god did it" is not an answer. There is a mountain of evidence for evolution (genetics, fossil record and so much more) the only evidence for god is philosophical arguments and antidotal evidence (antidotal evidence is just people saying they think it's real).
@@thejonner2036 Why are you watching this video? Why do you even care? Why not eat, drink and be merry until you die? After it's lights out for you, there is nothing, right?
@intentionally-blank Ah, the old, "what does anything matter to an atheist?" gambit. Haven't come across that one before... And someone may read commentary like mine or someone else's and consider what they're being taught by people with a vested interest in keeping them ignorant.
@@thejonner2036 I'm sorry for your bitterness toward the creator. Was it a bad church or Christian experience? Me too. That 'gambit' was teaching from Yeshua/Jesus where he said: *And I will say to my soul, "Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry."' But God said to him, 'Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?' Luke 12:19-20
and he begat sons and daughters; not only after the birth of Seth, but before, though we have no account of any, unless of Cain's wife; but what their number was is not certain, either before or after; some say he had thirty children, besides Cain, Abel, and Seth; and others a hundred (c). Josephus says the number of children, according to the old tradition, was thirty three sons and twenty three daughters. (d)(These families had at least five children, for one son is named as well as other sons and daughters. Therefore there must be at least three sons and two daughters in each family. For a family to have at least three sons and two daughters, according to the laws of chance, a family must on the average have nine children for this to be a near certainty. Hence the families listed in this chapter must have been large by today's standards. Given their long life, this is not at all unusual. However even today, the Old Order Mennonites of Waterloo County in Ontario and Lancaster County in Pennsylvania, have many families this large. Ed.)
GOD bless you Ken Ham, B’Shem Yeshua HaMashiach!🙏🕊️🙏
I shared this with our children and youth at Church. It made a huge difference
Amen! One human race!
Thank you for the message. Truth is always refreshing. I'm on my county board of education. We gotta get you guys in here!
You mean return them to the schools. So true. We learned this when I went to school back in 'the dark ages'. I will pray you keep your position; we need more like you making policy for public schools.
Excellent thank you God bless in Jesus mighty name 🙏🐦🌾
Thank you Mr. Ham 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
Amen brother 🙏🙏🙏 good word
We’re not all the same and that’s ok.
We taught our children about Hegel's Dialectical Methodology and how it shapes education and society. Kant and Hegel after him produced our current Postmodern Post-Christian day.
The solution is always Christ Jesus, The Word.
Hey Ken a question if you see this. Regarding Fossil Fuels. My 19 year old son says dinosaurs and plant life over billions of years created oil, gas and coal. I always tell him Genesis says otherwise and these resources were always here. Of course my competition is every single science resource says other wise. DO you have another answer I can parlay with Genesis?
answersingenesis.org/geology/the-origin-of-oil/-posted by moderator
I shared this with my granddaughter. She is in public high school. I am grateful for her first 9 years in Christian schools. Too bad her Christian middle school made the academics so overtaxing that she chose to go secular.
Sad she had to reduce her standards w/o tutoring
I would give my eyeteeth to have my grandaughters in Christian centered academia with higher tougher standards. Secular “education “ is so dumbed down that the average high school graduate is overwhelmed beyond capability if you give them an extra penny to round out the purchase. 😮 That’s no exaggeration.
You have chosen to define Race to your benefit rather than common dictionaries. It is also interesting that five times in Revelation, John sees believers from every tribe, ethnicity, nation and language. Yes, we are all descendants of Adam and Eve but it would appear that John saw visible traits that were eternal and by most definitions, make up our diverse and wonderful races.
@JohnMark1313 - BINGO! Ken Ham is extremely good on so many things about Genesis and creation, but for some reason he is utterly blind as to there being more than one race. I can only guess that he married a negro (Aboriginal) woman or an oriental. Seems that Ken Ham has never read Jeremiah 13:23.
It seems that Ken has never heard about the several lawsuits brought by ORIENTAL/Asian/mongoloid students against colleges for giving Negroid (Black) students extra (unearned points) on entrance examinations. Recently the SCOTUS agreed with the several Oriental / Asian/ Mongoloid students on that issue. Orientals almost always do the best academically in High School, then Caucasoids / Indians - from India/ Pakistan region) then Hispanics/American Indians, then Negroids. If there are no "races" then how does Ken Ham and anyone who "Liked" his message account for the low scores versus the high and medium scores on Military written Entrance tests and College entrance tests for many decades of certain members of racial-ethnic groups?
They claim Mark Twain stood at Adams grave and jokingly cried saying he didn't know he had a dead relative so far away
Poodles are the most intelligent breed!
😂
And all dogs are descended from wolves and now a rottweiler behaves like a golden retriever or a husky behaves like a German shepherd ? ... no, because they are different races with different dispositions, it's the same for all mammals ... also for humans ...
there is only one . those that think otherwise keep the grift going
That's called reality... something that some probably don't want to see... anyone who doesn't even want to see the difference between ethnicities, between races is as far away from reality as the other perverts who believe there is no difference between men and women ...
❤❤❤ Nice to meet you here!!
What grift?
@@blazee3895 to divide by saying there are multiple
@@HS-zk5nn Saying there are multiple humans?
Dogs are one race, however, I would never let a pitbull near my kid.
1 Corinthians Ch. 14, Adam was not in the transgression, but the woman.
Not finding anything in that chapter to your point. Perhaps you recall it incorrectly - Adam was not 'deceived'. Both Adam and Eve transgressed by eating the apple and the resulting consequence was as YHWH Elohim stated. Eve changed what God had "Ye shall not eat of it, *neither shall ye touch it* , lest ye die." The instruction was given to Adam before Eve was even brought forth. Adam was right there with her and didn't correct Eve, nor rebuke the serpent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. 1Tim 2:13-14 It's intriguing to imagine this scene in the garden, there is even more going on than first appears. Shalom Joseph!
@@intentionally-blankThank you!
Is our desire to sacrifice future generations by hoping for incomprehensible death, destruction and finality, enough of a denial of family?
After that ‘glorious’ day, imagine who might have been if there was no God?
Well we've seen through history the less religious a country is the more it becomes depraved people look to fullfill there own desires not caring about other people's or society laws suicide goes up because there's no signs of purposes drugs and things you try to use it to full your the God you talking the person who stopped drugs gangsterism and people who go to jail change become better people are that guy if you understand helps you through your darkest times
good argument and Dawkins should talk with you lol
Its really simple,.just read your bibles.
You can take slaves from the neighboring tribes, but dont take slaves from within your tribe.
Then, you can beat those slaves, as long as they dont die.
When did God say that I think levicticus but the Bible is split into civil laws, moral laws and seromonial laws that was a specific law God gave to jews at the time there slaves were more like workers they couldnt beat had to feed and eventually release
Your description of slavery in the Bible is wanting, but, you tried.
One blood, one race.
True, but let's not forget that before there was sin in the world, there was the devil.
"But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils." (1 Cor. 10:20)
P.S. I've noticed an alarming trend with google search, if you enter a partial verse into the search box, google spams you with INTERPRETATIONS of the verse before showing you the actual verse and verse number.
They are trying to brainwash Christians / plant first impressions onto interested seekers!!!!!
♥️🙏
The Tower of Babel was a fun story to read. They were idiots who didn't understand the problem with staying in one area. God did them a favor.
Sadly, today, we're repeating, to a degree, the mistake that they made.
IT'S the same with Joseph and Moses story they were supposed to inherite that land of cananate after getting food supplies and living in Egypt until the food shortage ended but instead deciding to stay there making it there home until a terranicle king came and rose and then they start begging to God but they weren't even suppose to be there if the listened
Ken, you make a lot of good points. But, there is a lot of information left out. Yes, God created one man. When He created that man, he also created the rib which was later made a woman, a help meet for Adam's need. The woman, Eve had the same bone structure as did Adam. Noah had the same bone structure as Adam although his skin color was different than Adam's. Yet his DNA, if you so will give me liberty to say, was the same as Adam's. He was the issue of Adam. Noah's three sons left the ark with him, and by them were all people of the earth born. So we're all the descendants of Noah, the son of Adam, and of one of his three sons. They all had the same bone structure. In the land today, we have those who have a different bone structure. That's been scientifically proven many times. Sad as that is, it happened somehow. I've heard of bone mutation, yet in my understanding, the bone mutation extremity it would take for the difference that prevails, could not happen in the few years we've been here. I am not sure if a person had bone mutation, then had a child, would the mutation exist in the child? I know if a person lost a hand, then had a child, the child would have two hands at birth. I have seen that first hand. So something happened to cause the different bone structures. It may be the marriage supper of the Lamb before we know for sure. The tower of Babble split the people from unity, but it didn't change the bone structure. Different climates may have changed skin color, but it didn't change bone structure. Bone mutation may happen, but I don't see it making the drastic change as is in the bone structures. As Jesus said, seek and ye shall find, I am seeking. God bless.
Eve was the mother of all living because she was the mother of Jesus and only through him can anyone live. Other than that, they that are not the people of God, are not a people at all. 1 Peter 2:10. Only through Jesus can we become the people of God. Jesus is the one who makes us alive, or living. Therefore, Eve being his mother(He took on him the seed of Abraham, not the nature of angels Hebrews 2:16) she was the mother of all living. Now to say it means all living on the earth in the natural. Genesis 1:30 proclaims that the beast of the earth, the fowl of the air, and the creeping things that creep upon the earth have life. So Eve was not their mother. So that light is wrong. Well, it only means the humans on this earth you might say. But we must remember, Adam said that after the tree meal. That is after the fall, or the death. As Adam died, separated from the spiritual life he had in the garden, he came to life in the carnal which we are all born in before we become born again. That was when he, being dead spiritually, was serving the devil which was a liar from the beginning. Therefore it is no wonder that he would make such a statement meaning one way, while God was telling us in another meaning, that the Messiah would come. Thanks for letting me sound off.
American Indians? No such thing.
Genesis tells us creation was In Eden, not even on earth. Humans can be 6000 years from the fall but when Adam fell he fell to earth which might indeed be billions of years old. It doesn't matter, we fell 6000 years ago, it doesn't say God created the earth at that moment.
Interesting. What do you have to support these ideas?
Genesis tells us that Eden had four rivers, two of which are the Tigris and the Euphrates, which puts its location in the Middle East, possibly spanning modern day Iran, Jordan, Iraq, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria. Anthropology calls this region the Fertile Crescent because it’s where human agriculture first originated. Which comports with the geography of the Biblical account in Genesis.
The Fall doesn’t refer to a physical falling from the sky to earth, but to humanity’s fall from a state of innocence to a state of sin when Adam and Eve disobey God by eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden. We were barred from Eden because sin separates us from God. The entry of sin into the world brought physical death and eternal death (separation from God in Hell.) Separation implies the need for reconciliation. On the cross, Jesus made the way for sinful human beings to be reconciled to Him by dying on a tree in our place, and rising again with the promise that if we repent of our sin to Him and trust in His goodness and in His substitutionary death in our place, we can enjoy friendship with God again, both in the life to come and right now. Pretty cool huh?
I urge you to read the Bible yourself and see what I’m saying is true. Genesis, the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John), and the book of Romans are good places to start. God’s Word is the best true story you’ll ever read.
Archbishop Uusher compiled the ages.
Watch out it's the pre-creation earth racist where the blacks were not adamic.. typical
Eden was on Earth as God had just created it. Why can’t we just read Genesis as it is plainly written? Why must we add layers of complexity to God’s word in order to fit in the deep-time narrative?
I thought - "There is only 1!" Seriously. The fact that certain people keep bringing this stupid topic up as if they were really affected by it is what's keeping the stupid idea alive.
The fact that Ken is using human breeding of dogs to show how bad evolution is, shows how uneducated Ken is!!!! Poodles don't shed hair and are hypo allergic, poodles are highly trained and great service dogs (it's why circuses used them a lot), poodles are better swimmers than wolves and great foal hunting dogs. Wolves aren't even close to these traits like poodles, where did that information come from?
He wants to say that there are primordial animals and that from those animals they evolved, or they did not evolve due to loss of information. But the reality is that in regard to animals, humans have controlled this involution. And the reality is that the reverse process is more difficult or extremely difficult, even impossible. Obviously, from the same family, or chosen families (that is, you don't know how to reconstruct the basic information), you won't get genes that "stick", and offer major changes through adaptation. There is another problem of reversing the process by the fact that when you take superior, i.e. original, genes and transform them, it is more difficult to restore them, meaning that something complex can always be "easier" to destroy but very difficult to rebuild. That is, solutions are found more easily in opening opportunities even without much knowledge and looking for solutions in time, than in remaking very rarely manifested ideas, which lead to big leaps. These are very difficult to obtain, because they are very difficult to "build". On the other hand, small ideas are always at hand, those that create opportunities for investigation and research into the possibilities of future realities.
It is a way of saying that evolution, from the origins of species, only means a transformation with the accumulation of new information, but also loss of information, but more loss than change. But that doesn't mean it's something negative. I mean, from the beginning of evolution, the genes were more "dense", and then they kept combining, losing information by species.
If you actually listen to Ken , instead of yourself, he makes it very easy to understand. All species were created with adaptive gene pools for their survival by our God.
@@SherryClarkI Until god has been demonstrated to be real, Ken's answer of "god did it" is not an answer. There is a mountain of evidence for evolution (genetics, fossil record and so much more) the only evidence for god is philosophical arguments and antidotal evidence (antidotal evidence is just people saying they think it's real).
It's like you didn't follow the science.
Ken Ham lies to children and their parents seem absolutely fine with that. Huh.
@thejonner2036 Can you expand on this or are we to guess what you deem a lie?
@@intentionally-blank His denial of evolution and his lies about it make him a liar. There you are.
@@thejonner2036 Why are you watching this video? Why do you even care? Why not eat, drink and be merry until you die? After it's lights out for you, there is nothing, right?
@intentionally-blank Ah, the old, "what does anything matter to an atheist?" gambit. Haven't come across that one before... And someone may read commentary like mine or someone else's and consider what they're being taught by people with a vested interest in keeping them ignorant.
@@thejonner2036 I'm sorry for your bitterness toward the creator. Was it a bad church or Christian experience? Me too. That 'gambit' was teaching from Yeshua/Jesus where he said: *And I will say to my soul, "Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry."' But God said to him, 'Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?' Luke 12:19-20
@kenham Why does God need so badly to be groveled over?
and he begat sons and daughters; not only after the birth of Seth, but before, though we have no account of any, unless of Cain's wife; but what their number was is not certain, either before or after; some say he had thirty children, besides Cain, Abel, and Seth; and others a hundred (c). Josephus says the number of children, according to the old tradition, was thirty three sons and twenty three daughters. (d)(These families had at least five children, for one son is named as well as other sons and daughters. Therefore there must be at least three sons and two daughters in each family. For a family to have at least three sons and two daughters, according to the laws of chance, a family must on the average have nine children for this to be a near certainty. Hence the families listed in this chapter must have been large by today's standards. Given their long life, this is not at all unusual. However even today, the Old Order Mennonites of Waterloo County in Ontario and Lancaster County in Pennsylvania, have many families this large. Ed.)