Why does everything need a bad guy? I understand in fiction, but you really want there to be people in the world who put others down for little reason?
Sealbro hes the good kind of bad guy, hes a good player but his attitude gets the better of him. i like that hes an antagonist and alot of people like him for that, is m2k going to win again? or is leffen the bad guy going to take the gold for himself. i dont hate him, and i do disagree with his acts but god damn if it dont create good tv drama.
Why all the hate on Leffen? I'm not saying he is such a great person, but he is an amazing smash player. While I may not agree with him outside the game, I respect his skill. Like Tiger Woods. He did some... not so appropriate things. But he is one of the greatest golfers ever and people everywhere respect him. Why can't it be the same for Leffen?
Tiger Woods became great and earned respect, then did less than reputable things. Leffen did less than reputable things to begin with. If he's going to play the role of the villain, this is to be expected.
i actually dont like the way he plays, i dont think he really works for his wins as much as the other players. leffen very rarely outplays someone, he justs hopes you screw up. thats why leffen constantly gets 4 stocked. if you dont screw up against him he cant do anything.
***** That's nothing to be proud of? Then what is? He found something that he enjoys. Something he would rather do than anything else. And he pursues his dream. There's more pride in that than most things. He has found something to put his name on. To strive for. He went out and did his own thing. Probably more difficult than his previous job, and certainly more satisfying. I hope to someday be able to do something I so enthusiastically love and be proud of that.
He wakes up screaming in the middle of the night,these images flashing in his mind, only to remember he 5-0 chillin in the salty suite. He goes back to sleep with a smile on his face.
Do people even realize how disgustingly large the amount of hate L3ffen get's is? I know he was a dick in the past, but the pendulum has swung WAY too far the other way. We talk about respect and trying to grow a more peaceful community and then we even support hating on him, it's really personally mean and if you can't over the fact that L3ffen isn't an all-out jerk anymore YOU are apart of the problem. This community is an extremely uneducated, hypocritical and cynical one, this comments on this video is perfect evidence of that even though it isn't a hate video. People take things to extremes.
Xeferex all I'm saying is that GR smash makes thies as a funny video and then the people in the comments go ape shit and say they love seeing L3ffen "suffer". It's just weird
I love leffen, he's the best thing that could have happened to the community. The controversy he brings is hilarious and makes smash so much more interesting
Yeah.......no. If you think that then....yeah sorry for ya. Smash was better without this stupid shit going all around. It brings a bad taste to the community. We can definitely do without it.
+Cactus Mage Armada is still a beast, PP is still in the gutters(compared to his prime although he's still amazing), M2K is M2K, Hbox ruins Gfs /s, and Leffen got his visa. Also Mango's proving he can beat Hbox kreygasm
Barack Lasagna This isn't a hate video but more of showing how mental game can affect your play, Leffen looked like he was going to win but he mentally psyched himself out, same with every other clip i showed, evil leffen (Shown at the end) took over and he choked. :( Also he was firing shots at Hbox LOL
Leffen has basically become one of the "uncrowned kings" of smash. He beat Mango in bracket and absolutely DESTROYED Chillin during the salty suite. Had he won Apex 2015, the smash community would have looked a lot different.
People recognize that Leffen is a good player. There is just a difference between respecting a person and liking them you feel? I'm happy that he placed well because he deserved it but I still dislike him lol. I think many people are convinced he is bad because they dislike him
Next one down. A little too close. Not many people really like m2k, so it's a bit of a surprise. I've always felt that if everyone's playing their best, m2k wins. As in he has the highest potential.
Best Asura ARAD He beat Mew2king when he was the sickest he's ever been lol. I mean "no johns" is cool and all but I think if you're literally throwing up blood that's kind of a legit john
Blitz 'n Burst Alright, I'll give you that, for sure. I heard he had gotten sick but I didn't realize it was that bad. I'm also not a fan of that phrase the way people have been dismissing legitimate excuses like that with it. I just don't think it's giving leffen the credit he does deserve in terms of skill to say "at least he beat chillin" after beating mango twice (once with jet lag) and armada (@ beast 5)
+King Bowser straight after Leffen rekt him at smashcon. It all goes in circles. Mew2king could hardly be considered above Leffen this year since mew2king has failed to win a single event with more than one other "god" present. Leffen has won 5 this year and consistently placed higher.
But oh wait he beat armada twice in a row, beat manga twice in a row, beaten pp, consistently out places hbox, m2k still seems to shit on him though. Dont tell me he beat him at apex I already know thats like 15/1 record with m2k.
Leffen is not somebody to idolize, and I don't know why people do. He's insanely good, and...that's about it. He's pretty boring to watch in my opinion. Also, I don't appreciate someone trying to make their opponent feel like shit. When he loses, it's all excuses. It's never him getting outplayed. When he wins, he acts like a god. He's just nothing special, and he's an asshole. He's not a "villian", he doesn't intend to " create hype". He's an asshole.
Olivia Suki Don't focus too much on evidence.zip, he's definitely improved since then. Like Anderceus said, he really is the type of guy that you both love and hate. He is a ridiculously skilled player, there's no doubt about it, but the way he acts now is still pretty controversial among non-professional players.
"LEFFEN HAS BEATEN ALL OF THE GODS WHICH MAKES HIM AMAZING!!!!!" •Four stocked •Four stocked •Four stocked •Four stocked •Johns for not winning Apex •Side B's off stage in Apex 2015 •Marth stalls and kills him with it, and manages to survive •Pooped on by Hax •Slammed controller down like a child filled with rage I love the persona that he puts on and everything, but this is what separates him from the "Melee Gods." It's just pathetic. I actually feel somewhat bad for him, because he isn't mean in person, and it probably does haunt him because he can't change the past.
I could beat Leffen in Project M, I haven't done much practice on Melee since my game disc is really dirty and won't read and I haven't had to to try and fix it. But I would take Leffen on in PM...(I probably would loose, he's really good, but still)
Why do people keep saying that "every community needs a villain"? That's completely untrue. While I agree that Leffen is the "villain" of the Smash community, there doesn't need to be one. It's a silly notion that in order for a community to be balanced, or interesting, there needs to be an antagonist, bringing contempt and disrespect with them wherever they go. Leffen is cancerous for the community with his complaints, degradation of other players, and general disrespect and poor representation of the game and community.
He has actually gotten a lot more respectable with other players in recent days, I wish more people would see that. Poor guy busters so hard sometimes and looks so sad for it D:
Armada and PPMD are really gracious in victory. They don't explode with excitement because they know it makes the opponent feel bad. Huge respect for them
When an advertisement starts with japanese speaking and the translation is "I'm not going to show him any mercy if he doesn't understand such things", and you think its the actual video, you may be watching the mind of leffen.
That's the package that comes with that anime hair of his. He just needs to tough it out, endure, and rely on the power of his friends to make it through this.. *...Oh. Wait..*
Does TH-cam still mute the audio of videos? Is that a thing they do to protect copyright? I only ask because I know of a few videos that have been muted in the past for using this very song.
My B = Chillindude
Side B = Lffn
LOL
Holy shit I'm dying xD
Lol, that's the best thing I've heard all day lol xD
thanks guys..i've been trying to get that going since apex this year...(': let the internet scatter it
I lold
everything needs a bad guy. leffen is the darth vader of smash and i love him for it.
Why does everything need a bad guy? I understand in fiction, but you really want there to be people in the world who put others down for little reason?
dark vader
Sealbro hes the good kind of bad guy, hes a good player but his attitude gets the better of him. i like that hes an antagonist and alot of people like him for that, is m2k going to win again? or is leffen the bad guy going to take the gold for himself.
i dont hate him, and i do disagree with his acts but god damn if it dont create good tv drama.
***** oshit i didnt even notice that typo
Oh, I'm sorry. Didn't know we were living in fucking Game of Thrones.
Why all the hate on Leffen? I'm not saying he is such a great person, but he is an amazing smash player. While I may not agree with him outside the game, I respect his skill. Like Tiger Woods. He did some... not so appropriate things. But he is one of the greatest golfers ever and people everywhere respect him. Why can't it be the same for Leffen?
Tiger Woods became great and earned respect, then did less than reputable things. Leffen did less than reputable things to begin with. If he's going to play the role of the villain, this is to be expected.
But they both deserve respect.
i actually dont like the way he plays, i dont think he really works for his wins as much as the other players.
leffen very rarely outplays someone, he justs hopes you screw up.
thats why leffen constantly gets 4 stocked.
if you dont screw up against him he cant do anything.
***** That's nothing to be proud of? Then what is? He found something that he enjoys. Something he would rather do than anything else. And he pursues his dream. There's more pride in that than most things. He has found something to put his name on. To strive for. He went out and did his own thing. Probably more difficult than his previous job, and certainly more satisfying. I hope to someday be able to do something I so enthusiastically love and be proud of that.
DIVAD291 And that is why he is considered one of the Top 10 players in the world... Yep. You got it.
He wakes up screaming in the middle of the night,these images flashing in his mind, only to remember he 5-0 chillin in the salty suite. He goes back to sleep with a smile on his face.
Then he remembers getting 6-0 by mew2king and wakes up in a cold sweat
If you're gonna act like Vegeta, you're gonna get bodied like Vegeta.
hello
I come from a land far into the future
Hello, I come from an even farther future.
Heads up, 2020 is gonna be a bitch
I don't even like Leffen but seeing him sad after a loss is so depressing.
Do people even realize how disgustingly large the amount of hate L3ffen get's is? I know he was a dick in the past, but the pendulum has swung WAY too far the other way. We talk about respect and trying to grow a more peaceful community and then we even support hating on him, it's really personally mean and if you can't over the fact that L3ffen isn't an all-out jerk anymore YOU are apart of the problem. This community is an extremely uneducated, hypocritical and cynical one, this comments on this video is perfect evidence of that even though it isn't a hate video. People take things to extremes.
Your opinion is wrong.
a part*. apart would mean the opposite :P
Xeferex It's not an opinion, it's a fact that leffen isn't a dick.
Xeferex all I'm saying is that GR smash makes thies as a funny video and then the people in the comments go ape shit and say they love seeing L3ffen "suffer". It's just weird
as chillin says: "evidence.zip cant contain dat ass-whoopin' "
I love leffen, he's the best thing that could have happened to the community. The controversy he brings is hilarious and makes smash so much more interesting
No it makes it more like a soap opera instead of a video game community
Lol, if he did the shit and said the shit now like he did two years ago, he would most likely be banned again by E-Sports.
Yeah.......no. If you think that then....yeah sorry for ya. Smash was better without this stupid shit going all around. It brings a bad taste to the community. We can definitely do without it.
I dont know about you but the Smash community was absolutely fine before Leffen started walking around.
Sealbro No , the people that create drama around what shouldn't be make it more of a soap opera.
Leffen is like vegeta
+Weldon Julien Dude holy moly yes
Hey can anyone tell me what happened at tournaments after G3 cause I haven't been watching the tournaments in a while
+Cactus Mage Armada is still a beast, PP is still in the gutters(compared to his prime although he's still amazing), M2K is M2K, Hbox ruins Gfs /s, and Leffen got his visa. Also Mango's proving he can beat Hbox kreygasm
Except Vegeta is cool.
Dang, you're really on the anti leffen train
The guy wants to be the villain he's gonna be treated like one.
i hate that leffen is abused hes one mf my top five fav smash players first is M2K
Barack Lasagna This isn't a hate video but more of showing how mental game can affect your play, Leffen looked like he was going to win but he mentally psyched himself out, same with every other clip i showed, evil leffen (Shown at the end) took over and he choked. :( Also he was firing shots at Hbox LOL
IanCantGame truer words were never spoken.
@cyrusleaf: Leffen??? Abused??? He's the abusER.
Leffen has basically become one of the "uncrowned kings" of smash. He beat Mango in bracket and absolutely DESTROYED Chillin during the salty suite. Had he won Apex 2015, the smash community would have looked a lot different.
but he didnt
and the guy is a jerk
People recognize that Leffen is a good player. There is just a difference between respecting a person and liking them you feel? I'm happy that he placed well because he deserved it but I still dislike him lol. I think many people are convinced he is bad because they dislike him
leffen is great so what he has a mean personality i like becuz of it
so destroying chillin is a qualification to be a smash king?
Was he crying?
Karjar A. I don't think so, he was just probably very frustrated or upset he lost :/
GRsmash PJSalt
I would
Ed Swashbuckler
Good point
Ed Swashbuckler in the interview after apex he also said that he was pretty sick before he came
Wow, along with being a great Melee player, Leffen sure does have a great taste in music. Reasons like this make me happy to call myself a Lef-fan.
Press 1 if you don't feel bad for Leffen
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LEFFEN IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SMASHERS, I like him he's cool, he is my second fav behind M2K
smashboards.com/threads/leffen-is-banned.333990/#post-15323177
***** Man this shit is from 2010 so go away dude. Past is Past. #TsmLeffenOP
Lenny Asa Because the saying has always gone "People do change"
Actually I would say aMSa
Next one down. A little too close. Not many people really like m2k, so it's a bit of a surprise. I've always felt that if everyone's playing their best, m2k wins. As in he has the highest potential.
Atleast he beat chillin amirite guise!?
That's like beating up a 10 year old and being proud of it
and mango. and mew2king. but I mean
Best Asura ARAD
He beat Mew2king when he was the sickest he's ever been lol. I mean "no johns" is cool and all but I think if you're literally throwing up blood that's kind of a legit john
my b
Blitz 'n Burst
Alright, I'll give you that, for sure. I heard he had gotten sick but I didn't realize it was that bad. I'm also not a fan of that phrase the way people have been dismissing legitimate excuses like that with it.
I just don't think it's giving leffen the credit he does deserve in terms of skill to say "at least he beat chillin" after beating mango twice (once with jet lag) and armada (@ beast 5)
Your videos can bring me out of the shittiest of days man, great stuff. c:
love him or hate him he has defeated most of the smash gods
he's defeated all of the smash gods smarts
+Fox 20XX M8 lol Mew2King rekt him. Mew2King > leffen
+King Bowser straight after Leffen rekt him at smashcon. It all goes in circles. Mew2king could hardly be considered above Leffen this year since mew2king has failed to win a single event with more than one other "god" present. Leffen has won 5 this year and consistently placed higher.
+Ludvig Burman "Failed to win a single event"... Pax?
Fox 20XX M8 reread my comment. PAX only had one other god present.
One of my absolute favorite videos on the Internet right now. Such a joyous video.
Daniel
This video appears under the GOATS stream
leffen is worse than lawnchair
1 if you cry evrytim
noone is crying.
uno
dos
I'm crying from laughter, does that count?
AnonymouslyHidden
Only Leffen.
We need more people like Leffen in this world
Please no
There are alot of jerks in the world
*Kappa*
In a world full of good people, we only need one villain, js. Otherwise, drama between more Leffens will just be terrible.
There's plenty of assholes in the world, just play a match of Call of Duty, you'll fine a lot people "like" Leffen.
rip in pieces lemon
Nagisa?
yep
Your channel description is so cringy tho
i blame having this account for several years and making the description when i thought i was an edgy cool kid sorry i will change that right away
I like L3ff3n, I think he is good for the game. Every story needs a good villain :D
Remember when people were saying he was going to become one of the gods of smash.
He beat every Smash god atleast once,which doesn't make him better in any way.
The era of the gods is over.
But oh wait he beat armada twice in a row, beat manga twice in a row, beaten pp, consistently out places hbox, m2k still seems to shit on him though. Dont tell me he beat him at apex I already know thats like 15/1 record with m2k.
mew2king said at paragon that has the 6th god
@thunderruler: Leffen was 4 stocked by armada AND mango as many times as he beat them. LMAOOO
But guys, PP still isn't winning Ap....oh, nvm.
"my b"
Ppmd is the best player in the world AND HIS MARTH IS A PERFECTION
thecrimsonpixel Just to be clear, I liked your comment because of your name, not because of the comment itself.
Bones0 fair enough, pretty generic comment still
thecrimsonpixel he deleted it lol.
It's funny how he actually won 2 sets of where he was 4 stocked here
"But, what goes around, comes back around." - Leffen 20XX
Let's do this.
This video brought me tears of laughter and I'm a FAN of Leffen.
The Gary Oak of smash
No, Leffen is PAUL.
+Josue De León Ikr
+Josue De León Paul was such a dick
This man tries so hard to be Kratos from God of War, but he ends up looking like Scrappy from Scooby Doo.
"...and Leffen not happy... Of course."
That had me laughing so hard.
This brought me to tears. In every sense.
Should have included a clip of the 5-0 vs Chillen and a clip from the 1000$ match vs Mango att the end :P
Are you gonna make any more of these "Into the mind of *insert smash player here*" videos tbh?
I did not want this video to end.
I like how the music starts soon he's ready to plug in his earphones.
1:10 praise the sun!
Leffen is not somebody to idolize, and I don't know why people do. He's insanely good, and...that's about it. He's pretty boring to watch in my opinion. Also, I don't appreciate someone trying to make their opponent feel like shit. When he loses, it's all excuses. It's never him getting outplayed. When he wins, he acts like a god. He's just nothing special, and he's an asshole. He's not a "villian", he doesn't intend to " create hype". He's an asshole.
So simple, so eloquent. Great video.
Thanks.
It was fucking hilarious when the song started. *Leffen loses* "Hello, darkness. My old friend." lol
"Equipped with the ultimate gamer genes"
The Twitter bio XD
can someone explain L3FF3N to me? im really confused, is he a bad person or something?
He's like that one movie antagonist who you both love and hate
Leffen's the villain of Smash that we need
RisenFromTheAshes0 what has he done tho?
***** oh I see xD
Olivia Suki Don't focus too much on evidence.zip, he's definitely improved since then. Like Anderceus said, he really is the type of guy that you both love and hate. He is a ridiculously skilled player, there's no doubt about it, but the way he acts now is still pretty controversial among non-professional players.
GRsmash, thank you for this video. Keep'em coming.
Man, Leffen can really take a beating. Also... this is one of my favorite songs. :)
"LEFFEN HAS BEATEN ALL OF THE GODS WHICH MAKES HIM AMAZING!!!!!"
•Four stocked
•Four stocked
•Four stocked
•Four stocked
•Johns for not winning Apex
•Side B's off stage in Apex 2015
•Marth stalls and kills him with it, and manages to survive
•Pooped on by Hax
•Slammed controller down like a child filled with rage
I love the persona that he puts on and everything, but this is what separates him from the "Melee Gods." It's just pathetic.
I actually feel somewhat bad for him, because he isn't mean in person, and it probably does haunt him because he can't change the past.
Press 1 if you feel bad for L3ffen.
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"The Emperor is the only good thing in the Star Wars prequels. He's just so fucking evil and he loves it." -Harry S. Plinkett
I just love how you used the original 1964 version of the sound of silence. People tend to forget it exists.
Soo good see Leffen losing *-*
shut it fool leffen will be and will alwys be better than you at smash salty assss!!!!!!!!!
cyrusleaf 1101 DAMN! That boy put OP on blast!
cyrusleaf 1101 And?
I could beat Leffen in Project M, I haven't done much practice on Melee since my game disc is really dirty and won't read and I haven't had to to try and fix it. But I would take Leffen on in PM...(I probably would loose, he's really good, but still)
That cyrusleaf guy is so cringy tho
> Considered the 5th or 6th best player in the world
> "He's really bad lol"
you cant become a champion without getting 4 stocked every now and then, its all part of the process of becoming better.
these flash backs happen every set, you can see it in his eyes
Why do people keep saying that "every community needs a villain"? That's completely untrue. While I agree that Leffen is the "villain" of the Smash community, there doesn't need to be one. It's a silly notion that in order for a community to be balanced, or interesting, there needs to be an antagonist, bringing contempt and disrespect with them wherever they go. Leffen is cancerous for the community with his complaints, degradation of other players, and general disrespect and poor representation of the game and community.
Hax money with the throat slice taunt irl
This is one of the best smash vids ever. Amazing song choice.
He has actually gotten a lot more respectable with other players in recent days, I wish more people would see that. Poor guy busters so hard sometimes and looks so sad for it D:
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OOOH HAX MONEY ONSTAGE
For your next video, I think Top 10 team saves would be cool. That Kage and Vwins double save at McSm4shter was amazing.
Armada and PPMD are really gracious in victory. They don't explode with excitement because they know it makes the opponent feel bad. Huge respect for them
Top 0 to deaths? Top kage vs n0ne moments?
first is already done.
He's really bad lol. I never liked him. Never will.
Leffen is ranked 6th rn, "he's so bad" -.- I hate him as a person too, but you can't deny he has some skill
Carson karanian actually rank 4 right now Source: smashboards.com/rankings/melee/league
this man put mango in losers at apex.
But he's never four stocked Mango as far as I know while Mango has bodied him twice.
leffen's good. whether you like him or not is a whole different story.
OMFG thank you for this! I enjoyed it so much
Hang in there Leffen! Rise to the top!
What would've put the cherry on the top was if the commentary audio had a reverb effect to it.
Ah good on ya mate, that gave me a good laugh.
Leffen looks like a Dark Elf
Great player anyway, he has reached a fantastic level (cf last Apex). keep it up Leffen!!
hax's pop off during the crew battle was a great moment
make a top ten low tier character moments or something with low tier characters please. Your videos are awesome!
Leffen is the Gary Oak of smash. He's the villain we needed, the guy we needed to see beat our heroes so we could squirm when he loses.
too good, thank you for this.
ahhh Leffen. props on the laughter at the end haha
I actually want Leffen to join his place with the gods this year. Hes on a mission to get his- you can see it on his face in every match
I love this video I hat e Leffen! thank you, grat smash , hellos from australia, g'day mate
When an advertisement starts with japanese speaking and the translation is "I'm not going to show him any mercy if he doesn't understand such things", and you think its the actual video, you may be watching the mind of leffen.
A toast, to Leffen. No matter how hard and long the journey, your campaign to god-hood has come to an end. You've earned my respect.
I like to imagine Leffen laughs like Master Hand when no ones looking.
The first of many heels to come I hope. We need a good vs evil rivalry!
He is the villain that smash needs.
Leffen is still my fav smasher
D1's reaction from Hax's cutthroat gets me every time,
The song (FYI):
Simon and Garfunkel - The Sounds of Silence
I'm sure there could be way bigger montages of Leffen winning lol, and I am not even a Leffen fan, but yes comedically this is pretty good video xD
That's the package that comes with that anime hair of his. He just needs to tough it out, endure, and rely on the power of his friends to make it through this..
*...Oh. Wait..*
Had Leffen won Apex.... Ugh I don't even want to think about it
Leffen is #1 in official rankings. God help us all.
"OOOOHH!! HAX MONEY ON STAGE!!!!! Can I get the camera on me? He did, he just did this *woosh* with his scarf. Hax money baby." -D1MX
gotta love the hypetrain of "we need a villain"
Not only does Leffen act like Gary Oak, he looks like him too!
I think Leffen found it funny on his hbox/armada group stream, good sense of humor by him.
Props for using the original version of the song (without drums).
I love Leffen so much
Leffen is the Gary Oak of the smash community
Does TH-cam still mute the audio of videos? Is that a thing they do to protect copyright? I only ask because I know of a few videos that have been muted in the past for using this very song.
what song is this
craytboy Sounds of Silence by Simon & Garfunkel one of the best folk rock songs ever made
All these leffen vids but lately hes been kickin ass and taking names
Its feels like these defeats created
The monster that L3ffen is today. He's had enough. Also, "OKaaay".
I know that Leffen isn't really the kindest person out there, but through this video I really feel bad for the guy
Love this guy
People laugh at him but he became he's becoming stronger. And he said he doesn't even mind having to play the villain role.