The American carriers involved at Midway were the three Yorktown’s, USS Yorktown, CV-5; USS Enterprise, CV-6; and USS Hornet, CV-8. The older Lexington-class USS Saratoga, CV-3, had been laid up back home with torpedo damage, so didn’t make it to Midway until after the battle was over.
RIP to the crews of the ships of Force Z. It's a disgrace that the wrecks have been illegally salvaged and the human remains inevitably misshandled. It really is strange how anybody thought Repulse was at Midway.
Star Trek being an alternate history anyway, we can speculate that either the HMS Repulse survived and was there at Midway, or a new HMS Repulse was launched in time to participate in the battle. There isn't a lot of time for that to happen unless they changed the name of a soon-to-be-commissioned vessel, but it's possible. A stranger option, it being Star Trek, is that a temporal anomaly hit submarine S23 HMS Repulse, and she was involved in the battle as a result.
Maybe in Star Trek timeline both of the Renown-Classes were undergo major modernized retrofit like what Renown did in OTL. The reason why Repulse was sent to the far east and sunk by the IJN air forces was mostly because she didn't conducted a retrofit that as intensive as her sister goes. Still, Royal Navy was desperately lack of battlecruisers or any high-speed battleships at that time, so they have to send one of their battlecruisers to the far east to against IJN's Kongo-Class battlecruisers anyway.
What I don't get is they labeled the Excelsior model NCC-2541 for its appearance as Hood in Encounter at Farpoint. Then Repulse appeared and they relabled the model NCC-2544. Then, for some reason, in all the computer displays from season 3 onward, they numbered Hood with a much higher 5-digit number, but left Repulse as 2544. Why not keep Hood with the lower (more logical, given her configuration) hull number?
Still, as an absolutely enthusiast to the British battlecruisers, I think it's definitely proper to name Excelsior and Sovereign ships after the name of the battlecruisers in history. Every single details on them were to said that they were the counterpart of the battlecruisers in Starfleet. They looked elegent and sleek, fast and powerful, realiable to almost any missions, and even the name themselves are typical Royal Navy names.
I believe there are two. The lower one is mostly for cargo. There are no outer doors and the hull structure is exposed. The one on the fantail is for shuttles. It does have outer doors that seal the area shut.
I love the mental image of in the battle that instead of the HMS Repulse it was the USS Repulse, the japanese air wing would have had a very nasty surprise!
In retrospect that was a hilariously unrealistic expectation. I don't see them being a reasonable prospect unless propulsion tech improves. You aren't getting there except as a stunt until that happens
@@M167A1 NASA had plans for non-orbital-launch nuclear craft, for cargo mostly, which could've gotten to Mars in a very short time. Launches from the surface would take place in a normal rocket but then the high delta-V of the nuclear rocket ferries the cargo most of the distance in the solar system. They even planned to use this for various scientific missions to Jupiter and Saturn, as well as the Voyager probes, and had to completely redesign the flight path for the Voyagers after that was canned. IIRC. If that cargo fleet had gotten built in the 70s, and the NASA budget relative to GDP had stayed the same as in the Apollo heyday, we could've possibly had research outposts on Mars in the 90s and 00s after some manned visits in the 80s. But of course, that politics is really the Optimistic part, rather than the sheer theoretical technology.
The American carriers involved at Midway were the three Yorktown’s, USS Yorktown, CV-5; USS Enterprise, CV-6; and USS Hornet, CV-8.
The older Lexington-class USS Saratoga, CV-3, had been laid up back home with torpedo damage, so didn’t make it to Midway until after the battle was over.
RIP to the crews of the ships of Force Z. It's a disgrace that the wrecks have been illegally salvaged and the human remains inevitably misshandled.
It really is strange how anybody thought Repulse was at Midway.
Oh that's Americans for you, if it doesn't involve them it didn't happen.
I really don't think there were many human remains after 70+ years.
@@tortenschachtel9498 That's really not the point though, a war grave is a war grave and should be treated as such.
We should build another renown class, name her Repulse and send her to protect the two sunken vessels.
Star Trek being an alternate history anyway, we can speculate that either the HMS Repulse survived and was there at Midway, or a new HMS Repulse was launched in time to participate in the battle. There isn't a lot of time for that to happen unless they changed the name of a soon-to-be-commissioned vessel, but it's possible. A stranger option, it being Star Trek, is that a temporal anomaly hit submarine S23 HMS Repulse, and she was involved in the battle as a result.
Or, it’s just a mistake. 😀
@@MontytheHorse I was talking about it Watsonianly, not Doylistly.
Maybe in Star Trek timeline both of the Renown-Classes were undergo major modernized retrofit like what Renown did in OTL. The reason why Repulse was sent to the far east and sunk by the IJN air forces was mostly because she didn't conducted a retrofit that as intensive as her sister goes.
Still, Royal Navy was desperately lack of battlecruisers or any high-speed battleships at that time, so they have to send one of their battlecruisers to the far east to against IJN's Kongo-Class battlecruisers anyway.
Hey, I got a Drachienfel vid! 🤣😉
One of the best channels on TH-cam.
I loved the White Ensign. Oh and hey, why not do a comparison of the USS Yamato and the Space Battleship Yamoto?
What I don't get is they labeled the Excelsior model NCC-2541 for its appearance as Hood in Encounter at Farpoint. Then Repulse appeared and they relabled the model NCC-2544. Then, for some reason, in all the computer displays from season 3 onward, they numbered Hood with a much higher 5-digit number, but left Repulse as 2544. Why not keep Hood with the lower (more logical, given her configuration) hull number?
the ship is one of my ships in STO
Human error, ya can't escape it!
Still, as an absolutely enthusiast to the British battlecruisers, I think it's definitely proper to name Excelsior and Sovereign ships after the name of the battlecruisers in history.
Every single details on them were to said that they were the counterpart of the battlecruisers in Starfleet. They looked elegent and sleek, fast and powerful, realiable to almost any missions, and even the name themselves are typical Royal Navy names.
Very true. I might make a video about British warship names in Star Trek.
is the shuttle bay on these star ships upside down? I always thought it looks that way.
I believe there are two. The lower one is mostly for cargo. There are no outer doors and the hull structure is exposed. The one on the fantail is for shuttles. It does have outer doors that seal the area shut.
1:13 you got a lot of information wrong about midway
I love the mental image of in the battle that instead of the HMS Repulse it was the USS Repulse, the japanese air wing would have had a very nasty surprise!
Imagine if a Klingon ship decloaked if front of them???
Maybe that's where the timelines diverged. Someone survives, gives birth to scientists or engineers, and we end up with Mars colonies in the 90s.
In retrospect that was a hilariously unrealistic expectation. I don't see them being a reasonable prospect unless propulsion tech improves.
You aren't getting there except as a stunt until that happens
@@M167A1 NASA had plans for non-orbital-launch nuclear craft, for cargo mostly, which could've gotten to Mars in a very short time. Launches from the surface would take place in a normal rocket but then the high delta-V of the nuclear rocket ferries the cargo most of the distance in the solar system.
They even planned to use this for various scientific missions to Jupiter and Saturn, as well as the Voyager probes, and had to completely redesign the flight path for the Voyagers after that was canned. IIRC.
If that cargo fleet had gotten built in the 70s, and the NASA budget relative to GDP had stayed the same as in the Apollo heyday, we could've possibly had research outposts on Mars in the 90s and 00s after some manned visits in the 80s. But of course, that politics is really the Optimistic part, rather than the sheer theoretical technology.
Thanks for the video!
Almost at 10K as of 2023-12-16
10K as of this morning. I've been caught on the hop.
@@WeTravelbyNight congratulations!!! 🎊🎉🎈🍾
how did they screw that up so bad
small detail - not. Unacceptable editing
Repulse and Prince of Wales... repulse was sunk in 1941 and was not at midway this is not funny
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