Viennese Action: Promberger & Sohn Grand
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Beautiful sound, beautiful piano! Thanks a lot for the great video!
Well done Brigham! Thanks for the short tutorial on Viennese action pianos. Beautifully unique quality sound. Happy owners no doubt!
John Broadwood and Sons of London developed the Escapement action(single escapement) in the early 19th century;Chopin used one of the concert grands for his final tour in England. (The Viennese action is, as you say, specific to the Germanic nations of Europe) It became known as the English Action and Broadwood's continued using it far longer than the should have(into the 1880's at least) while S. Erard developed the Double Escapement Action shortly after they became familiar with Broadwoods action. They opened a location in London and, in time, drew business away from Broadwoods to the point that Broadwoods market share has dwindled to very limited production even today. They were slow adopt new technology in over-stringing and escapement, plate design etc. and never recovered their place in the piano market. Technology from "the New World" was competing in the world market in 1850's from Chickering then Steinway and later Mason and Hamlin and Baldwin. Steinway took the lead and never let go of the concert stage. My Broadwood was from 1873, Straight strung, single escapement action, composite Frame and 85 keys. After restoration it did sing with voice of a different era. I loved it just your clients will love their Promberger. nb- Anton Pramberger, notice the a instead of an o started his career in the late 1700's. Very interesting that the decal uses an o.
My German Lipp & Sohn grand piano is from the 1880s as well, but it doesn't have a Viennese action. It has an old Erard style action with peculiarly shaped hammer shanks that match the highly unusual Erard repetition mechanism that has back checks right in front of the hammerheads.
By the way, my Lipp grand piano still has all of its original parts from the 19th century, but it nevertheless sounds like a modern grand piano, unlike many Bechsteins and Steinways from the same year. Lipp pianos and grand pianos seem to last way longer than similar high quality instruments of the same age. I wonder why.
That's a massive damper, good lord.
From as I can recall in my learning over the years, the real reason the other actions being used by Steinway, chickering, Knabe in their formal grands and such at the time replaced the Viennese action is due to reliability, repetition and dynamic control. I believe Bösendorfer was probably the last big name maker of Viennese actions.
I think they are fascinating in the same way Erard had their underdamping system. Surely not as good as a modern piano but it really brings a different life to the music of the era
Also straight strung pianos bring an extra special evenness to the tone. I wish more makers today would continue to experiment with this technique.
Rippen used to make lots of straight strung pianos, even after WW2, but sadly the Dutch company went bankrupt in the 1980s due to economic recession and increased competition from Asia.
Maene Viñoly
Interesting piano. I liked the snippet of Chopin - very appropriate. I always enjoy your videos; very informative.
I am curious, Brigham, if you have interest or past experience restoring the great old American square pianos of the 1880s. Or perhaps an early European or English fortepiano? Would be very cool to see your work on one of those
Thanks Brigham!
Would you call this a patent action or does this predate it?
Y’all are going to be pros at vianesse actioned stuff. Not that you aren’t already…
Does anyone know why the hammers have extra cloth on top of them?
I know the earlier pianos used leather on the hammers. I'm wondering if this was what that was. Hopefully Brigham or one of his team will answer this question!
@@RobHoffman83oh wait, I think he did say there was leather on them, I just wasn’t paying attention! Still not sure why.
Isn’t Pramberger now made by Young Chang?
Was. It's now Samick. Young Chang sold it but kept some patent from my understanding