Suikoden 1 Retrospective | An Overly Long Review & Analysis of this Great JRPG
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A complete and exhaustive review of Suikoden 1, the first game in a well loved JRPG franchise from Konami. Everyone talks about the sequel, but I want to share my love of the original game with this retrospective analysis. Are you looking forward to Suikoden I & II HD Remaster: Gate Rune and Dunan Unification Wars? Thanks to everyone who wishes to support me on Patreon to do more videos like these.
#retrospective #review #suikoden
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
01:19 A Bit More Jordan Patreon
02:11 Suikoden 1 History
05:01 Part 1 - First Steps in the Service of the Empire
09:18 Battle System
17:54 Part 2 - Escaping Greminster
24:06 Part 3 - Finding Mathiu
29:24 108 Stars of Destiny & Recruitable Characters
32:29 Part 4 - Getting Lepant, Helping the Elves & Thieving from the Dwarves
38:09 Inventory Issues
43:06 Big Battle Mini-game
47:46 Duels
49:16 A Breather
51:04 Part 5 - General Milich, Liukan and the Loss of a Friend
01:02:53 Part 6 - General Teo and the Duel to End All Duels
01:12:05 Part 7 - Neclord
01:19:02 Part 8 - Dragons Den & Rescuing an Ally
01:26:37 Part 9 - A Traitor?
01:30:16 Part 10 - A Friend Returns & The Final Battle
01:33:15 Part 11 - The Ending
01:39:39 Part 12 - A Retrospective
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Obviously youtube think Suikoden II is superior.
It's swee. Not point in listening to anything else you have to say
@@danielhayes3607 What?
everybody needs a bit more jordan in their lives
Hopefully TH-cam agrees 😛
Ave!
I have memories of Suikoden V being a breathtaking experience. It looked beautiful on a standard-definition television.
I play Suikoden 1 at least once a year! Really looking forward to the 1 & 2 remasters coming out!
This series is SO great. Really sad that it seems to be abandoned. Suikoden 1 through 3 are some of my favorite games ever.
Jealous, I wanted 3 so bad as a teenager
@@ABitMoreJordan Yeah that's a shame. I liked 3 just as much as the first two and thought it made a good transition to being fully 3D. Combat was probably an acquired taste compared to the other entries but I was a big fan of the trinity system and the choice available for how you could pursue the late game.
Suikoden sounds like a fascinating series. Gonna add it to my play list
and did you finish the game already?
Did you manage to play it?
@@matinazadeh6870 my backlog is full enough and honestly I lost interest after the first 40 minutes lol
I really *really* hope you enjoy this. 😬
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I do enjoy this. I will watch your career with great interest.
I’m going to follow anyone that puts this much effort in a video especially when it’s my favorite game of all time !
Thanks so much! What other games would you like me to cover?
@@ABitMoreJordan there’s plenty I’m sure, FFVIII, Suikoden V, Legends of the Dragoon, basically any JRPG, the story telling has always been on another level on those. Maybe even a top 5 video on what you are looking forward to playing ! Keep up the work!
I really love Barbarossa in this game, especially the twist at the end. It adds a lot to his somewhat absent character in such a few words.
Here’s the best gaming character that only turns up 3 times for about 5 minutes 😊
I really REALLY wish we had more of him and Windy in the plot, like seriously it would have been so much more engaging
Suikoden is one of the most brilliant games ever. I play it regularly because it always gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.
It is (compared to other RPGs) incredibly short. You can complete the game with the best ending in 16 to 20 hours - without rushing through it on purpose.
The game has no side quests per se. The only optional things to do, are some mini games to recruit some characters. There is only the main story and the characters to recruit on the way.
But still, when you finish it, you get a sense of accomplishment. You just experienced an epic story that never feels rushed and doesn't leave you with the feeling that there should be more.
It feels really "complete" despite its short play time and having no side content.
I really look forward to the remaster, that Konami unfortunately delayed... damn them making me wait longer.
I totally agree, everyone tend to diss the 1st game because they are obsessed with 2. I personally played 1 first and to this day I still prefer it to 2. Suikoden 2 is a polished game but I didn't like the story and characters as much as the first one. I prefer the music in 1, I prefer the war mini game.
I have to agree but I also understand why it's not loved as much. Something I will stand my ground on though is 1's war mini game is far more enjoyable 😃
I agree 100% it’s my favorite game of all time and I’m sure the music has a lot to do with that :)
@@ABitMoreJordan the 2nd game (& 3rds) war games were simply unfinished, that’s just a fact of life.
Dragons ARE real. And they sound like elephants.
Very excellent job. I haven't played this in forever, so it was a very nice refresher. The inventory system reminds me of Shining Force.
Fire emblem too!
Nice one mate! Mark
Cheers Mark!
Me and my friend originally played this before internet and guides and never knew pahn could survive. It felt like a scripted death because how powerful Teo was.
Lol, I didn't have anything like that either and I always buffed him up until I could kick Teo's ass! And learning how to respond to what he says also helped.
Core memory unlocked in 2024. I was such a fan, I remember poking around for and finding the Outlaws of the Marsh books in an English translation. I wonder where those ended up.
Hey very nice man. I came through to support you and the video. Can't wait to see your next indepth review. Great Job man.
Great video! I really enjoyed your in-depth analysis of Suikoden 1. It's clear that you have a deep appreciation for this classic JRPG. The way you discussed the game's storyline and characters was engaging and informative. Keep up the fantastic work!
😮 Thank you for video. Had wait for a bit until I had enough time to watch it. You did a great job.
Thanks ever so much! Hope you enjoyed it 😊
A fun watch. Thank you professor.
Master level work, Sir. The God's thank you 😊
Thank you!
Wow. I appreciate this retrospective on one of my favorite games of all time (AND 2!!!) Love your channel
Love the commentary aspect!
Thanks bud!
Throughly enjoyed this! Makes makes me want to play it again. Keep uploading these Jordan!
Thanks bud!
I just found your channel dude and I am very very entertained! Thanks for the videos and more power to ya! 🐒
Awesome, thank you!
AWESOME VIDEO MAN!
Thanks matey!
Here we go
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The best game in terms of story line in Ps1. I also played this for about 5times. I find it entertaining and enjoyable to watch your channel. Keep it up.
Thanks Dominic! The next episode is already up on Patreon and should be public on Saturday 😊
Suikoden with smooth jazz, I'm in.
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I always enjoy your videos. Thanks for the laughs and the hard work 🐒
Thanks Tracy! 🐒
I love part 1. I was first introduced to it when i found it in a discount bin at a Johnny's Toy Store for $10 bucks. Actually both times that ive found it were in a discount bin still in tue factory wrap. I like part two also over all the other ones because of the sound track.
Thank you professor.
Just finished watching your retrospective for Suikoden 2 and currently starting on this one. Can't wait to watch the retrospective for the rest of the series. Subscribing!
Thanks! Hopefully I can find the courage to do 3 this year
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Proudly am also someone who loves the first game more.
So glad I found this video. For me the moment Gremio died changed gaming for me. I was already a pretty big reader and was in my early teens. I had played games and enjoyed them but his death was the first moment I realized a story in a game could have the same impact as a great moment in a novel. I didn't even know if I liked Gremio. He was such an afterthought to me until that moment he closed himself in the poisoned room. It made me feel guilty, sad, and shocked in a way that forever changed my perception of video games as a medium for storytelling.
Love the new channel
Thanks a lot Brian 😊
"big booby ant mama" is a phrase that will forever be etched in my brain
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It's here! Looking forward to seeing tons more Jordan!
Edit: 🐒 Man, I only ever played this one once on PS1, borrowed from a friend, but it was definitely a fun ride.
I didn't own a PS1 until years later, so I am glad I was able to pick it up through the Vita, along with many other classics!
This whole video was *chef's kiss*. You brought up the pacing of the game so many times, and I think you did a great job with the pacing of this retrospective too.
What a great launch video, looking forward to much more!
🙊 glad you enjoyed the pacing, the game really helped that though 😊
Nice one Jordan. Can't wait to see you do Vagrant Story 😁😁😁
Dude you rock! I will be supporting you on patreon this week. You make me laugh and I love your content. Well done on everything your achieving. Hope the beautiful family is doing well 😎🏴
Massively appreciate it! Thanks ever so much. Hope I can keep on making you laugh 😊
Went here after this week's Let's get physical.
Cheers matey!
wow your new channel is impressive can not wait for the next video
Thank you so much! Next one is already on Patreon, it will be public on Saturday 😊
Omg! Can we have more of these “video game story time” videos from you? THIS WAS SO WELL DONE!!!
Yes! At least once a month 😊
I am currently playing this on my Rg35XX. I never grew up with a Playstation, my parents refused to buy me one because they didn't want me to spend a chunk of my childhood playing games. My cousin did have a PS1 that time so I got to try some PS1 titles.
You could say this is my first ever 'real' experience with a PS1 game and it's on a retro handheld. Needless to say, I am in love with this game. It has a certain charm I cannot seem to put my finger on. The characters and environment is full of life and I honestly find myself a bit attached with some characters.
It's definitely a gem and I'm glad I got to experience a fresh playthrough of it while healing my inner childhood.
Really happy you seem to be enjoying it. The PS1 is a whole world of awesome
Amazing game. Well covered. Makes me want to play it again!
Thanks a lot. Maybe wait for the remaster 😊
The Ps1 is such an RPG beast. I honestly don't even know which I'd choose as a favorite. Lunar? Xenogears? Suikoden? Grandia? That's only a few of the amazing RPGs. What a console 😍
My favourite era of gaming for sure
Wild Arms? Alundra? Suikoden 1 is my fave personally
The reasons I prefer 1 are simple. The streaming music with live instruments sounds fantastic, and the visuals are more reminiscent of watercolor paintings whereas 2 has a more comic-like apperance with realistic backgrounds. They both look excellent but 1 just has a more idyllic appearance IMO.
Otherwise they're pretty similar in terms of gameplay (decent) and plot (as good as it gets)
"Shit-eating Krin" 😭
Amazing video! Wonderful retrospective! You really touched on what makes this game so gripping narratively 🐒
I was like one video? Then I went, oooh Suikoden! Subbed 😂
Thanks! Next one should be in a week or so. 😊
I wish I could have memories of Suikoden 1 and 2 erased from my mind so I could play them for the first time again.
Finally finished the video, as I just finished the game. Great job on this video!
Awesome! Thank you! Did you enjoy it?
Fantastic, I only watched a few minutes so far because I'll play this soon!
Hope you have a great time and come back when you’ve finished 😊
I fucking love the character art in this game more than any other game. It's so distinct and the watercolour art style, esp on characters like Odessa, is so memorable
Suikoden 1 is still my favourite too im with you.
I remember it being really average reviewed in playstation magazine like a 5 or 6 and i found it at my local market for 5 pounds and just absolutely fell in love with it.
Suikoden 2 is better in almost every way, i can see it but i still prefer 1.
Love the buildup to confronting your dad its just great.
Amazing video Jordan. I love this game... Although I played it so many years ago... Thanks! 🐒
Thanks for watching bud! 🐒
A bit more Jordan will heal the world one video at a time
Ah missed this but thanks for the video! One of my favourite games ever.
Thanks! 😊
All right, I'm in! Just downloaded the first two games on PS3 (still available at $4.99/$9.99) and listened through the video. Good job and I look forward to playing the game! 🐒
Legend! I had them on my PSP but lost them when I lost access to my old PSN account 😅
@@ABitMoreJordan I couldn't get into my old psn account on my damn ps3 either, so I just downloaded the roms on duckstation and they work increidbly. I do actually still have Suikoden 1 and 2 the original PS1 discs but esp the first game is getting a bit old
I was expecting 5 hours... less than 2 hours retrospective is plenty. Now I need to play.
Also I also remember Konami for their hard slapping music games.
Hello! I followed you here! Lol let me tell you this video is certainly what I was expecting from your style. Love it!
Thank you! 😊
Can´t wait to play this game, first time for me and I´m excited to play it!! Thanks for the video!
Have a great time, please come back and let me know your thoughts when you’ve played it 😊
I have to play this sometime, such a good story!!
I found you through David RPG. great channel. Suikoden is my favorite series. Suikoden 2 is the greatest. cant wait for Eudin Chronicles
I love this game, my favorite above all games. 2, 3, 5, even 4 kinda, are fun. I cant wait for Eiyuden and the suikoden 1 and 2 remaster
👍 currently working on a Suikoden 2 retrospective 😅
Great Video ! This was perfect through my afternoon ! 🐒 I had suikoden 4 for ps2 but it was realllly bad , I would love to see more !
I’m almost dreading getting up to 4 😆
Excited to see Alundra in the Channel image.... !!!! Currently playing it on my PSP.
Great game 👍
Love these🐒
More Jordan!
Only a bit more 😊
Damn, guess I have to cancel that Tinder date I had planned! 😯I'm sure she'll understand - everyone would do the same for almost two hours of Suikoden content! On a more serious note (I was serious though!), I'm looking forward to watching the video 🙂
Ha! Thank you for choosing me over a date 😂
Great video. I never played this game after watching this video it makes me want to play. This video didn’t feel long.the only one I played was for the ds and I loved it.🐵🙈🙊
Suikoden 2 is my favourite, but any Suikoden is good Suikoden. Even Suikoden 4.
Honestly, even Suikoden 1 had stuff like stuff like reflections on the castle floors that I don't know if the SNES could have pulled off.
You’re right about the reflections. You can tell the SNES couldn’t handle this. But that’s only if you look at it more closely, at a glance, I think people would dismiss it
Double Jordan within an hour. I need a cool drink
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My body is ready.
I hope you make it through!
Thank you so much for this review and I really enjoyed this game. I don’t consider 2 better than this one. I consider both games as one continuous story, that just takes place in two different regions within the same world. After all, you can recruit Tir in the second game.
And yes, the soundtrack, absolutely amazing.
Suikoden 1 & 2 are amazing, I think about them like an only one game split in two parts
Boom, watched the whole thing in one go.. 🙈🙉🙊
Well, I had it one in the background and listened to most of it while I was working, but still.. 😁 Have a good one Jordan!
Absolute legend! 🙈
@@ABitMoreJordan You are the legend, thanks for all the content you make here and on your other channels. Take care!
This is excellent. First time viewer here and I will def be checking out your other videos. Suikoden 3 is my fave in the series!
Edit: 🙉
Perfect timing since I just put out a video for Suikoden 2 :D (I'll probably get to S3 sometime this year)
Something not mentioned in the video is, Dragons aren't naturally inherent to this world, and rely on a True Rune always having an owner to anchor them here.
Upon their immenent death, dragons can return themselves to the World of Wings and Scales; we don't know if this saves them or whether they just go to die at home. We've never seen one take a fatal wound, go there, and then return at least.
Which means Black, for whatever reason, chose purposely not to do so as he was dying.
I've probably played this game about 20 times, it and Worms was the first thing I played and one of the only good memories of my ex-sister who introduced it to me and gave me my first PS console. This was a fun review even though I question your choice of team sometimes, lol! I used to talk to everyone and walk around and examine everything so I don't remember Milich's region giving me too much trouble. The inventory can be annoying but I got used to it and with some planning it's usually ok. I really love this game and now I will probably take some time and play through it once again!
For this playthrough I believe I decided to try different people out, people I'd never tried before.
Good 1st video! and about my favorite JRPG (series) as 1 is like .2 points below 2 for me 😅. Can’t wait for a new generation to experience the Remasters!
Tierkreis And Tactics (Rhapsodia) came to the States though the Card games and PSP title remained JP exclusive 😉
I really hope the remasters are a hit
Great video, subbed! Got into the series after the remaster announcement and I wish the games got more attention! Beat S1 recently and loved my time with it, Gremio/Odessa/Cleo/Kirkis/Valeria were my faves stars of destiny!
..And also got though S4+Tactics before it, going into them with no expectations definitely helped (+ wanted to play them first after hearing how supposedly bad they are) but I can definitely see how they were a step down when it came to character/writing quality compared to S1 and most likely S2/3/5 based on what I've heard but I still enjoyed my time with them
I’m tackling S2 right now. Might get to the end of the series in a couple of years 😅
I had played through like 80% of this game before getting away from it. This video is PERFECT so I don't need to restart! Thanks Jordan!
Thanks for watching Jeff!
Woah, this is also my very favorite and have played many times. For me it was Gremio’s death that was the hardest for me as a kid.. it’s amazing what you take from it at different points of your life and that it has that kind sort of depth! Of course I also had to get Suikoden 2 and enjoyed it, but it’s mostly forgettable to me compared to 1… (maybe because I played it at a less influential time?)
The other intriguing aspect of Suikoden is the mysterious reoccurring characters like Yuber/Pesmerga, Jeanne, etc. that you always wonder what their story is!
Thanks for taking me back with your in-depth video… just finally went back and beat Azure Dreams so I look forward to that video!
Hopefully I can get Azure Dreams done early next year. Currently writing a Suikoden 2 script.
If you're wondering where you can play the game, some options are buying the physical copy, (you can play that on PS1, PS2 and PS3), downloading it on the Playstation store, which you can play on PSP or PS3, you can download an emulator and play it on computer or phone using emulator, and you can wait for the remaster which is supposed to come out for next gen consoles within the year.
I still remember my grandmother buying this game for me in a bin at a grocery store
Wow great find!
Excellent video man as always! Have you played an old PS1 game called Legend of Legaia?
I’ve heard of it but never played it
Legend of legia is underrated!
Incredible game. Genre defining.
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This has me so hyped for the remaster. They need to give us the release date soon. I can't wait to finally replay this game (along with Suikoden II).
I can’t wait for it!
God I love this game. This and FFIV are the most emotional games I've ever played.
Next up Jordan pod cast 🤞🤞🤞
If only I was that interesting 😆
Will be back after I play the upcoming Suikoden remaster. :)
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The music in the Mcdohl home is my favorite song in the first game
Very nostalgic!
here for your algAe rhythm gunna watch this when i get xenosaga up n running soon honk
I have this game somewhere i think, but didn't play much. I remember that the inventory management is tricky
If it’s a physical PS1 version, it’s quite expensive 😬
@@ABitMoreJordan it isn't
Woowoo, congrats, got almost 1k subs before the video even dropped!!
As for me, 1&2 were equally as good. I never did play 3 onward, but I know that they didn't seem to strike my fancy all that much when I saw gameplay and such.
And yes!! the American cover art was weird, looks like it was a willow movie poster or something. Glad they stuck to the anime renders for the cover on 2 over here in the states. 😅
Did love the strongholds and the amount of party members you can enlist in these games, which goes hand in hand with the skirmishes. So good for it's time. Didn't see anything comparable to my liking until Ni No Kuni 2, but it didn't have the party member registry like suikoden did. Great video friend. Dunno if I'll be able to watch it all, but I'll hang out for a bit and come back periodically. ✌️
Thanks for the comment bud! I hope i get to 3 at some point. Want to try that one out
Oh shit! my boy got his own channel
Sure do! 😊
Really enjoyed the video and would love one on each of the five main games. Especially if you haven't played Suikoden 3 before.
As for the spy, I always refer to him as "Dirty Sanchez" when I play the game.
Oh here's my monkey emoji. c(^^)c
🙉 I do plan on the whole series, just want to spread them out a bit. Don’t want to be “Thr Suikoden Channel” 😊
Ah shit here we go!!
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So, figuring out who the traitor is actually can be done early on. So, Luc is recruited and he brings along that slab that records the name of every recruit you have (the names are only visible once they join your army). But Sanchez's name is never recorded. You might think "Well, he's an NPC like Mathiu, so maybe only those who can be put in the party are recored?" but no, Mathiu is there along with other people you recruit but can't put in your party, like shopkeepers.
That’s true. But it was something i realised after the first time I’d beaten the game
Not sure why but TH-cam has put a content warning on your video and probably age restricted it.
Thanks for the great review Jordan . Never played this growing up but I am greatly anticipating the remastered editions coming out soon.
🤔️ I don't see anything different in the settings, nor have I got a message from YT. I tried watching the video in private browsing and I didn't get anything. So hopefully it was just a glitch you saw 🤞
New sub here! Looking forward to you playing and reviewing Parasite Eve as well, Jordan.
Awesome, thank you!
Subbed from the physical series, what is the subscriber level of the oled to be given away over here???
No OLED giveaway here 😛