My least favorite thing is people who use Ava as a reason that queer people are predators even if that has nothing to do with liking children, Ava is gross not bc she’s trans but because she’s a predator
EXACTLY! i hate when bigots say “well blah blah blah was a predator and their trans” but then they turn around and say “it’s not all men get over it” like they aren’t doing the same thing!
Because how many cis men are predators? A hell of a lot. Ava’s problem is not because she’s trans. It’s because she’s gross. I’m so thankful for you pointing this out😭
@@artofkai it’s like we you play games like Roblox with vc (voice chat) people are so creepy but the second you go “I’m 13” they stop, why can people on twitter and discord do that lmao
My fear is their transphobic blood libel might be part of a broader theological agenda. Big ministries often rely on courting donations through reactionary politics.
im more disgusted that people cared about her being trans and not her being a creep. people being more upset at ava being trans in this situation is disgusting
It also takes away accountability from her. "She did this because she's trans" implies that it's the only reason why she did this, not because she's a bad person. She did this because she's a creep, and she needs to be held accountable for that.
If people start using her as “reason why trans people are all horrible people” I’m gonna start coming through peoples phones/computers like the girl from the ring 🤦♂️
Josh Duggar can be used for Christians, Republicans, conservatives in general, men, cis men, straight men, traditional values activists, and white people.
Just read into him. Thank you for this! I’ll bring it up next time my Tate supporting 13 year old little brother says “being gay is wrong and trans people are groomers” or something.
on the topic of JaidenAnimations winning the MrBeast video, people are only mad because shes a 'nobody' (and a woman) when the video is literally 50 of the worlds biggest content creators. she has like 13 million subs, but she's a nobody ig
I’m transgender and bisexual. My friend is super homophobic and transphobic. This is because she thinks all queer people are like this. However, she says that, “I’m different”. She says that I’m a good person. So I tell her that the reason you only see most major news about the bad ones doesn’t mean that the 99% good ones aren’t existent. (Edit: Grammar)
Oh same hat, I keep running into transphobes who end up liking me and thinking I'm one of the rare "good ones", when in reality they're being fed the worst of the worst through transphobic forums, groups, etc
thank you for talking about this and NOT misgendering her cuz her transness isnt the issue. everybody else covering this is calling her "they" at best.
@@Clown_Curry That Was Quite Some Time Ago, She's Been Clear For A While That Her Pronouns Are Just She/Her. She's Gone By She/Her For Enough Time That Anyone Who Covers The Story Has No Excuse Not To Get Her Pronouns Right.
When I first heard about the issue going on with Ava one of my first thoughts was, “People are going to take this and turn it on us queer people.” And sure enough, they’re using it as backing to call us gr00mers. Like no- Ava being trans isn’t related to what she did; she did it because she was a bad person. Anyways, have a good day everyone! I’ve had artblock for the past few days but I’m drawing right now and getting out of it so yay!
I appreciate that you touched on this, and one of the most important things to remember in this situation is that gendering Ava incorrectly achieves nothing. She is a gross human being because she is a predator, not because she’s trans. Misgendering her brings the attention away from the actual issue here which is, you know, the fact that she LIKES CHILDREN. Misgendering her only means that you see pronouns as something that can be taken away when someone does something wrong. I don’t see people calling Cody Ko or DrDisrespect she, even though they’re also child likers. I’ve seen this a lot, and just remember that she’s sick for being a pdf file, not for being trans
You’re not actually a trans ally if you’re immediate reaction to a trans person doing something bad is to misgender them :| being trans isn’t like taking a kids phone away cause you bullied them Kris is Trans. Kris being creepy doesn’t change that. I’m not “respecting her pronouns” I’m just actually falling in line with what I whole heartedly believe about the trans identity. It’s like thinkjng you can be racist cause a POC did something bad Like no. They’re just a bad person. That part has literally nothing to do with the problem😭 people are so obnoxious
@@Sprite67933 fr 😭 I feel like dream was the first person who was called out for this then everyone followed behind him 😭 (also didn't dream not di any of that? I watched his like 3 hr long vid about it or sum)
As a 20 year old I can confirm that it’s so easy NOT to talk to minors. Yes, I had minors flirting with me. You know what I did with it? I put boundaries in place and stopped them, explaining that it was inappropriate and made me uncomfortable. It’s THAT easy not to be creepy with minors!!!!
i was literally being HARASSED for telling people using this to be transphobic to her is insane and harmful. crazy to see where people's priorities are tbh
as a member of the transgender community, I want to thank you for covering this situation in such respectful manner. the amount of sheer hatred that I've seen on social media towards trans people recently is honestly terrifying (it was even more triggering for me, as right now in Poland we have an organisation trying to push the law restricting transition access). it really helps to see someone being reasonable about this stuff. thank you ❤ also, yes I've been crocheting, I've found your channel a while ago and your videos are great to crochet to :)
Bro I am so disappointed and disgusted at how this year has been for Minors. Also I hate how people take the situation and use it to be homophobic or transphobic.
Oompaville Made A Video On Ava's Situation And His Comments Were Filled With Transphobes, I Got Called A Pedo So Many Times For Simply Correcting People On Her Pronouns WHILE Saying That She's A Horrible Person But That's Not An Excuse To Be Transphobic. It's Ridiculous.
Usually people that court right wing audiences have them. SomeAngryGamers also had a comment section completely filled with transphones trying to correct people that gendered Keffals correctly as female, only because they think now that a transperson did something contentious, that they are right to deny them that. And these 'centerist' channels never set the basis to not do that, even if you're calling out a trans person on their actions. Oompaville also comes off to me as kind of chuddy anyway, moreso than Mutahar.
Real. Oompaville's comments are very mixed. I think it's partially because Oompa is relatively neutral politcally and doesn't directly state his "political views". Oompa at least is an ally ig.
Same with moist critical, while his video addresses the situation appropriately , the majority of the comments are transphobic, even the ones that use avas correct pronouns get "*He" comments. I wish we lived in a world without idiots, Being trans has nothing to do with her horrible actions.
I’m so glad you covered this situation because all of the other people I’ve seen covering this usually makes her gender the main focus rather than her disgusting act
i love it when louis says he likes our art and congratulates our cleaning ive been cleaning my entire house for a few months now, so getting that little boost helps me keep going :) i finished cleaning another part of the kitchen, so getting the recognition is definitely a help thanks for being awesome, mr mcclung
I'm literally horrified by what I see??? I didn’t think that she was SO terrible and disgusting, I’m a minor boy and I think it will be difficult for me to fall asleep thinking about it
thank you for using her correct pronouns. every person i’ve seen cover this has misgendered her. while i know she is a bad person, seeing everyone dehumanizing her for being trans and NOT because she is a predator has made me feel quite shitty, as i am a trans guy. this week hasn’t been the best, but thank you for not misgendering her
reminder shadman made cp of eleven from season 1 of stranger things when both the creator and character were preteens, he then had millie sign it irl. his "art" has impacted real children
these kinds of people make it harder for me to live without being harassed because i am also trans, these people disgust me, trans or not (edit: whyd i get 100 likes i just made a silly comment 😨
Same, that was my first thought about this. I've already been harassed out of school for being trans, now she's giving them more reasons to call us groomers!
"I dont know why i have a cold" your hair is blowing, which means they wind is blowing on you, which makes you cold. And you said you were the detective.
that’s literally an old wives tale. you can’t get a cold from a fan. if he already was sick, that could worsen the symptoms but it can’t *make* you sick.
when she came out as trans i was so happy, im a queer minor (not trans, but under that umbrella) and i was never a huge fan, but seeing someone so popular come out was so refreshing. it made me feel so seen. this is disgusting, and im so sad i ever wanted to support her considering what she has said to and about children.
1:37 this is why i'm taking a break from twitter, so many transphobic people are just hating because of the situation, and saying that all trans people are like ava, it hurts me to see people act like this
learnt ab him recently bc of this and no joke it caused me to spiral and sh bc it was so degenerate as a victim of sa myself it was just too triggering . I just couldn't bare w the knowledge of smt like this. I can't even watch this vid lol! Js commentin :p
i think the reason this happens so much is because of the power dynamic that a content creator and a fan have, plus the naiveness (hope thats a word) of young people who just want to be liked by their favorite creators. its a sad world when we give these people platforms without knowing how they are behind closed doors or what they did openly 8 years ago.
people attacking ava for being trans and not because she talked to minors is crazy cause literally almost every other predator that’s been exposed this year alone have been cis and straight like colleen or dr disrespect💀
That being said the internet is hypocritically going after Ava. Like keemstar is direct friends with people who also shared around shadmans work in the same way and same timeframe as Ava, but keemstar only complains about Ava doing it. Theres many people who interact with minors online look at vr chat for example. And theres a good amount of odd conversations like she had with Lava, but nothing that instantly makes someone a groomer or pdf. Yeah it's creepy and Ava deserves to be called out but the amount of people covering it would be infinitely smaller if she wasn't trans.
You couldn’t be more wrong, she is one of the main characters of the biggest TH-cam channel of all time, of course everyone is gonna talk about this. Most of the people hung up about the trans thing are virtue signaling liberals like you.
it kinda feels like youre defending ava in a way. there are many transphobes going after ava for this which i can admit is true, but MANY creators would still cover this because mr beast is a huge creator. since like over a hundred million people at the very least have seen ava, of course people are gonna be talking a ton about this because shes literally famous. saying going after her is hypocritical feels so weird to me, its an great thing people are exposing her for this disgusting behaviour and i dont think it should be described in a negative way at all.
@@lovely2wice It's hypocrtical to cherry picking her out of the thousands of people who promoted, funded and supported shadman a cp artist. Like Belle Delphine the friend of Keemstar promoted Shadman and even cosplayed for him. My prev comment is just saying they should go after a lot more creators with this same energy then just Ava. Like Mr. Beast should def be called out for allowing cp on the walls of the office/room they where in but nope Just Ava. Side note: the supposed victim Lava went against the narrative and saying the claims about them were nonsense and got harrassed for days because of it. That wouldn't really happen if it was a regular allegation towards someone popular. The trans bias is far bigger of a importance then fame.
@@404maxnotfound i dont think its hypocritical at all, nobody is justifying anybody elses support of shadman, they just arent as aware of it. also about lava getting harassed, thats because he was a victim who just wasnt aware of it. to say people telling lava that hes a victim has anything to do with transphobia is so weird, this has NOTHING to do with kris being trans. ive said it before and ill say it again, yes shes getting a ton of hate from transphobes, but i dont see how thats related to anything youre talking about.
It's so frustrating that people think just because these allegations are coming out now that Ava became a creep after transitioning. But they were always a creep, they just happened to be outed as one after coming out. Them being queer has nothing to do with their actions, and if I'm being honest there are way more cis and het people being outed for doing this same shit than queer people. Ava is a loser, but their trans identity has nothing to do with that.
I always knew I was a victim of my abuser, but the age where I realized the sheer extent of the manipulation and remembered just how many excuses and how much grace I gave these adults involved was heartbreaking. Lava may never see it, or may in a few years...but boundaries WERE crossed, period.
Have you seen about what Nathan posted? He was a member of the discord chat that involved Lava and Kris, he said he was 15 and Lava was 14 back then. He also got some screen shot's from one of the mods of the group who was his friend, it has all the details in it.
This makes me so frustrated. These people wanted a reason to hate on this trans person and unfortunately it gave them a reason. It’s so fucking frustrating, especially because (as you said) this is most likely gen alpha’s first time seeing a trans person, so they’re gonna look up more about it and see how everyone is saying she’s a bad person.
does anyone else find it weird that there’s been more videos of ava then there was of freckled zelda after everything was revealed?? it’s probably bc zelda is a christian woman and ava is trans…
I find truly horrendous that people were more scared or disgusted and more worried about her being trans than her being a total creep. I find it very awful that people take it to their advantage to say that all trans people are like her when it's really not all trans people.
Dr. Disrespect, MrTLexify, Cody Ko, and Ava. I truly don't get how it's this difficult to not sext, groom, relationships with minors, and/or support *that* type of artwork. The Ava one hurts the most as I have Trans friends and she was a huge breakthrough for the Trans community in mainstream media. Now she's probably set them back by a year, just still angry because it truly does hurt.
Thank you for using Avas preferred pronouns and name, your one of the only people that Ive seen talking about this who has! Just because someone is bad doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use their preferred name and pronouns!
@@colin6603 it's not making a stand nor defending a predator. We all HATE her. It's not that we respect her, it's a language thing, Kris is trans, so it'd make sense to call her a she.
@@colin6603 Where in their comment did they say that the kids didn’t matter??? Just bc Kris is disgusting for what she’s done and deserves the backlash, it doesn’t mean her pronouns need to be ignored. It achieves nothing, and you’re able to acknowledge the gross things she said while also acknowledging her pronouns. They aren’t a privilege, her identity has nothing to do with the grooming or CP
@@colin6603misgendering her does nothing, i dont see anyone misgendering sneako, dr disrespect or drake. Her being transgender isnt the issue, its her liking kids.
7:42 OKAY, EW. I LOVE GRAVITY FALLS. SO MUCH. BUT WTF???? WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD MAKE THIS?! THOSE ARE 1. CHILDREN 2. SIBLINGS. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THIS (I also wasn’t expecting Gravity Falls to come up, barely is. I hope Ava realizes how messed up this is and how she acts)
I always hated it when people use bad people who just so happen to be queer to then demonize the whole community. Theres plenty of cis gender people who are groomers, do we then say "cis people are bad because they are all groomers"? No we dont, because thats ridiculous. Same goes for the trans community. A very very small percentage are bad people, and it's because they are creeps, not because they're trans. Theres no correlation there.
I hate how this year was a rollercoaster of catching creeps or abusers😭😭 I mean she had a group of ppl that still supported her after she came out and she made that group of ppl hate her too in the worst way congralutions💀👏
MOTH MENTIONED!!! MOTHS ARE AWESOME, I DONT OWN ANY AND THE MOTHS HERE ARE THE UGLY BORING ONES BUT THEYRE STILL AWESOME, I GOT HOLES IN MY SHIRTS FROM THEM!!! WHAT THE HECK IS A BUTTERFLY🐛🐛🐛🐛
hey louis! this isnt rlly related but i recently hurt my ankle/foot really bad yesterday evening and ur videos are rlly helping me calm down from some pain:-) thanks for making these videos
I was drawing this time actually lolol But yeah, as a transmasc person, seeing these types of situations go down that involve a trans person does make me a bit nervous because of the stigmatization that we as a community face already with being called predators for the "indoctrination of our agenda" towards kids So I and many others have to clarify everytime that the actions of an individual trans person or even a group does *not* reflect the community as a whole and that the majority of us do not condone actual predation towards minors (or just anybody in general) What Ava's done was weird, highly inappropriate, and disappointing to say the least, but her actions have nothing whatsoever to do with her being trans so it shouldn't even be a focal point in this situation because a person's gender has nothing to do with inappropriate interactions with minors or supporting those who create and distribute C-P
obviously louis isnt saying this, i’m just a random commenter; but if anyone is interested in going to Anna oops video about ava, and reporting it for blatant transphobia- where she and the comments focuses more on that, than the predator allegations- then you totally should go do that 😊
And it shouldn't cis men get exposed for being groomers all the damn time and no one goes "ugh cis people are nothing but groomers and pedos" there are just shitty people out there and the gender and sexual identities are not reflection of them being bad people
I genuinely love that Louis still calls Ava by her chosen name and pronouns becuase he’s just a great person?? I always here people like “take away” people’s pronouns if their not good people
the fact that everybody after this happened IMMEDIATELY started misgendering her and backing themselves up w “but they’re a creep!!!” is so baffling to me. sucks that ava did this 🙁
i appreciate the inclusion of the first segment of the video, irregardless of how the situation came out :( too many people are using this as an excuse to be blatantly, violently transphobic and it's really disheartening.
I used to love Mr. Beast…. I’ve already seen a lot on this but it still baffles me every time cause. I was a kid watching this and there’s Ava Kris Tyson over here doing….. this….
I think a lot of people forget that deleting something doesn’t make it go away. Anyone can still find a screenshot of that. It’s disgusting honestly. It baffles me how anyone can support and do that kinda stuff
I love Louis outros, always cheers me up I actually am cleaning my hoarder//depression room rn!! A few months ago i wouldn't have believed this room can look so nice
i got so pissed when i started seeing the comments “SunnyV2 was right!!! he predicted it” HE DISNT PREDICT SHIT??? he treated Ava like a character that only serves to cast on the Mr.Beast channel, and that her being trans would “RUIN his career!!” HE DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HER BEING A DANGER. he. didnt. say. ANYTHING. of. value.
I work at a cleaning company and play your videos for the whole five hours of my shift without getting bored! Thank you for keeping me entertained, you’re awesome‼️
It’s nice to see that you’re doing a an awesome job with your videos. I’ve been here since before you hit 50,000 subs.all I’m saying is keep doing what you’re doing Louis.
Recently, Lava has posted a new statement that they misremembered a lot of events and after looking back at the chat logs, it was inappropriate to speak about with him as a child though he doesn't believe he was groomed because that's a very special thing.
@@pacipwincessbut it’s unfair to push that idea onto someone when they themselves say they don’t believe they were. It’s up to lava to go on their journey to understand what happened, not us. It’s like saying someone was punched when they themselves say they were slapped instead.
“let me know what you’re doing in the comments below” I always listen to your videos while I work. i’m a dishwasher at a restaurant in my town and it’s really loud in the kitchen. i’m neurodivergent so the sounds bother me a lot. listening to your videos helps a lot because it gives me something to focus on!
I love the endings of you just saying “You are doing great” :3 X3 I think it makes your vids even more enjoyable than they alr are :3 ALSO THANK U SO MUCH FOR MAKIN MY DAY A BETTER
My least favorite thing is people who use Ava as a reason that queer people are predators even if that has nothing to do with liking children, Ava is gross not bc she’s trans but because she’s a predator
this!!
EXACTLY! i hate when bigots say “well blah blah blah was a predator and their trans” but then they turn around and say “it’s not all men get over it” like they aren’t doing the same thing!
@@ddarling988THIS OMFG‼️‼️
As a trans man: pedos exist everywhere. In any fandom, any community, anywhere. And she’s gross because she’s a groomer. I don’t care if she’s trans
Because how many cis men are predators? A hell of a lot. Ava’s problem is not because she’s trans. It’s because she’s gross. I’m so thankful for you pointing this out😭
Why cant people not talk to minors how hard is it to not to talk to them???
literally the easiest thing is to just NOT talk to minors
And if you dont know, once you know, block them!@@w1steri4
@@artofkai it’s like we you play games like Roblox with vc (voice chat) people are so creepy but the second you go “I’m 13” they stop, why can people on twitter and discord do that lmao
HONESTLY
@@trixIsHere1literally though
The problem is NOT sexuality or gender,
The problem is that people just CAN’T NOT be creeps.
THISSS
My fear is their transphobic blood libel might be part of a broader theological agenda. Big ministries often rely on courting donations through reactionary politics.
Look at Colleen ballinger! As cis het woman as they come!
im more disgusted that people cared about her being trans and not her being a creep.
people being more upset at ava being trans in this situation is disgusting
It also takes away accountability from her. "She did this because she's trans" implies that it's the only reason why she did this, not because she's a bad person.
She did this because she's a creep, and she needs to be held accountable for that.
They probably wouldn't have cared as much if Ava didn't transition and still appealed to them.
That's because they're probably doing the same shit tbh
love the pfp but yeah i agree
@@GeteMachine i saw on twitter that this was brought to light 3 years ago but the video didn’t have that many views
If people start using her as “reason why trans people are all horrible people” I’m gonna start coming through peoples phones/computers like the girl from the ring 🤦♂️
Josh Duggar can be used for Christians, Republicans, conservatives in general, men, cis men, straight men, traditional values activists, and white people.
Just read into him. Thank you for this! I’ll bring it up next time my Tate supporting 13 year old little brother says “being gay is wrong and trans people are groomers” or something.
it's started already, just look at the newest comments in her video with anthony padilla..
the way 2024 has js been one long "to catch a predator" marathon💀
Well I mean it’s good that people aren’t letting them around kids anymore
Fr 😭 and from so many different places and fandoms too
LMAO FR
this comment is both funny and very depressing lol
Icp reference
literally the entirety of 2024 was just a long episode of catching creeps
FR.
to catch a predator
We’re not even done with the year yet
@4_Ash_The_Therian_4 (to catch a predator)
@@Loaf_Fwhoop whoop
’Is that a groomer’ is my new favourite idea of a show, someone needs to make this ASAP
fr
louis should be the host
And on that show they hit the predators with bricks
yeah 😭
@@Angieurmom They have a show like that? 😆
1:56 its the fact that karl isnt even gay- he just paints his nails and people call him gay- im pretty sure hes asexual tho
yeah
He also died his hair pink once which a lot of people decided meant he was gay
a guy being fem?? has to be gay!🙄
@@juno.moth17 yeah, it's sad ppl can't be themselves and like more feminine things without being called gay
Karl has said he’s somewhere on the ace spec, yeah
As an Ava we do not claim her
Lmaoo
as a trans person i’m passing her on lolz
Same we don’t claim her.
As a trans I don’t claim her.
I just found out that she changed her name to Ava and I agree, we don't claim her
as a trans minor,
i am not a groomer
and neither are my fellow trans people. the people who think this need to get off the internet and go touch grass
"Not all [group of people] are bad, and at the same time not all [group of people] are good"
Generalization sucks
I agree with you as a trans person
FOR REAL. also same :) 🏳️⚧️
Same. I’m even ace.
@@SheepyBo1 same
on the topic of JaidenAnimations winning the MrBeast video, people are only mad because shes a 'nobody' (and a woman) when the video is literally 50 of the worlds biggest content creators. she has like 13 million subs, but she's a nobody ig
She's one of the biggest animation channels? I don't think anyone is calling her a nobody lol
@@janusalternate5260um yeah ppl have been... just bc ur not seeing it doesnt mean its not there
Bro nah I love Jaiden she’s cool
It's also cause some people are mad that she made ONE joke about Christianity (which she apologised for
@@LuckythecatZ-what did she say?
What Shadman was drawing can't even be called Loli, it was straight-up CP because he drew irl people/kids in sexual situations.
*Sighs* That's just even more creepy.
why can't the FBI do anything ab it? I'm so grossed I need him in prison
Ikr?!?!?! Dude drew himself into a corner because now he can't even say "she's a 900 year old short stacked goblin queen."
@@pacipwincess
He's already in prison but for assaulting someone with a weapon.
@@Raccon_Detective. Thank god :(
I’m transgender and bisexual. My friend is super homophobic and transphobic. This is because she thinks all queer people are like this. However, she says that, “I’m different”. She says that I’m a good person. So I tell her that the reason you only see most major news about the bad ones doesn’t mean that the 99% good ones aren’t existent. (Edit: Grammar)
Im sorry to say thats not your friend
ohhh my god, the amount of times i have been told "well ure different" !! unfortunate, that the few bad apples ruin it for everyone.
Wild people don’t get that loud ones don’t represent the whole.
that’s not a friend
Oh same hat, I keep running into transphobes who end up liking me and thinking I'm one of the rare "good ones", when in reality they're being fed the worst of the worst through transphobic forums, groups, etc
thank you for talking about this and NOT misgendering her cuz her transness isnt the issue. everybody else covering this is calling her "they" at best.
They Is Just As Bad As He At This Point 😭
@@SpoiledMilk.D.E.C I think she went by they for some time I’m not sure tho. I remember her saying she was fine with anything
@@Clown_Curry That Was Quite Some Time Ago, She's Been Clear For A While That Her Pronouns Are Just She/Her. She's Gone By She/Her For Enough Time That Anyone Who Covers The Story Has No Excuse Not To Get Her Pronouns Right.
That one moisturiser guy.
@@metalcoregrayson he*
When I first heard about the issue going on with Ava one of my first thoughts was, “People are going to take this and turn it on us queer people.” And sure enough, they’re using it as backing to call us gr00mers.
Like no- Ava being trans isn’t related to what she did; she did it because she was a bad person.
Anyways, have a good day everyone! I’ve had artblock for the past few days but I’m drawing right now and getting out of it so yay!
Yeay! F that art block
I appreciate that you touched on this, and one of the most important things to remember in this situation is that gendering Ava incorrectly achieves nothing. She is a gross human being because she is a predator, not because she’s trans. Misgendering her brings the attention away from the actual issue here which is, you know, the fact that she LIKES CHILDREN. Misgendering her only means that you see pronouns as something that can be taken away when someone does something wrong. I don’t see people calling Cody Ko or DrDisrespect she, even though they’re also child likers. I’ve seen this a lot, and just remember that she’s sick for being a pdf file, not for being trans
This! Exactly this!
Exactly what I was gonna say ❤
You worded this very well! ❤
You’re not actually a trans ally if you’re immediate reaction to a trans person doing something bad is to misgender them :| being trans isn’t like taking a kids phone away cause you bullied them
Kris is Trans. Kris being creepy doesn’t change that.
I’m not “respecting her pronouns” I’m just actually falling in line with what I whole heartedly believe about the trans identity.
It’s like thinkjng you can be racist cause a POC did something bad
Like no. They’re just a bad person. That part has literally nothing to do with the problem😭 people are so obnoxious
I keep telling people that, and I just got called a Pedo Defender, the world we live in....
"im not a groomer....just a loser" type energy 😭
Colleen should give her the ukulele istg 😭✋
@@Romantic_JulietI ate the ukulele /j
Of all instruments, why a ukulele?
@@dominicfucinari1942 real she should've rocked on a bass 💀
ATTENDANCE EVERYONE!!!!
HEREEEE
HERE‼
heh…
HERE ✋✋✋
IM ON THE MOON!
The only person I can trust to speak on this situation without the unnecessary transphobia.
I swear ever since June 2023 there's some problematic cheese touch or smth😭
FR 😭🙏
@@Sprite67933 fr 😭 I feel like dream was the first person who was called out for this then everyone followed behind him 😭 (also didn't dream not di any of that? I watched his like 3 hr long vid about it or sum)
After all this I’m just assuming that every major TH-camr has skeletons in their closest… and most of them underaged ones 🫤
@itz_fae yeah dream proved all the allegations wrong with evidence but apparently no one else can do that. 💀💀
@@finny3-wx6pr yeah fr maybe bc they all are creeps 💀 it can't be that hard to talk to minors bro
The best thing about Louis' videos is that he points at the camera and says ✨Members of the audience✨ like it's a compliment and for me it is :))
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Definitely!! :33
I read ur name and checked out ur profile, cool dragon pupetts! :D
@@unicornglitzer thank you ♥️
Whenever I look at Louis for a little too long I feel like I’m watching a shampoo ad
WAIT I SEE IT
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dude why is it so hard for adults to NOT talk to minors bro😭😭 like bro omg
2024 is the year of the predator i swear😭
screaming at year of the predator 😭😭
first 2023 was..now its this one
internet is cooked
As a 20 year old I can confirm that it’s so easy NOT to talk to minors.
Yes, I had minors flirting with me. You know what I did with it? I put boundaries in place and stopped them, explaining that it was inappropriate and made me uncomfortable. It’s THAT easy not to be creepy with minors!!!!
i was literally being HARASSED for telling people using this to be transphobic to her is insane and harmful. crazy to see where people's priorities are tbh
as a member of the transgender community, I want to thank you for covering this situation in such respectful manner. the amount of sheer hatred that I've seen on social media towards trans people recently is honestly terrifying (it was even more triggering for me, as right now in Poland we have an organisation trying to push the law restricting transition access). it really helps to see someone being reasonable about this stuff. thank you ❤ also, yes I've been crocheting, I've found your channel a while ago and your videos are great to crochet to :)
Bro I am so disappointed and disgusted at how this year has been for Minors. Also I hate how people take the situation and use it to be homophobic or transphobic.
Oompaville Made A Video On Ava's Situation And His Comments Were Filled With Transphobes, I Got Called A Pedo So Many Times For Simply Correcting People On Her Pronouns WHILE Saying That She's A Horrible Person But That's Not An Excuse To Be Transphobic. It's Ridiculous.
Oh yeah I've seen you there. I love Oomp but jeez. It's bad.
almost like these people care more about trans people identity than actual children hiding behind a smokescreen
Usually people that court right wing audiences have them. SomeAngryGamers also had a comment section completely filled with transphones trying to correct people that gendered Keffals correctly as female, only because they think now that a transperson did something contentious, that they are right to deny them that. And these 'centerist' channels never set the basis to not do that, even if you're calling out a trans person on their actions. Oompaville also comes off to me as kind of chuddy anyway, moreso than Mutahar.
Real. Oompaville's comments are very mixed. I think it's partially because Oompa is relatively neutral politcally and doesn't directly state his "political views". Oompa at least is an ally ig.
Same with moist critical, while his video addresses the situation appropriately , the majority of the comments are transphobic, even the ones that use avas correct pronouns get "*He" comments. I wish we lived in a world without idiots, Being trans has nothing to do with her horrible actions.
I’m so glad you covered this situation because all of the other people I’ve seen covering this usually makes her gender the main focus rather than her disgusting act
Why is why they are doing it.
@@GeteMachine being trans doesn't make u a pred bro.
@@GeteMachinethen why were they doing it long before they transitioned?
i love it when louis says he likes our art and congratulates our cleaning
ive been cleaning my entire house for a few months now, so getting that little boost helps me keep going :) i finished cleaning another part of the kitchen, so getting the recognition is definitely a help
thanks for being awesome, mr mcclung
AYAYYA Good thing on your house! I bet it looks amazing!!!!!!💗
I'm literally horrified by what I see??? I didn’t think that she was SO terrible and disgusting, I’m a minor boy and I think it will be difficult for me to fall asleep thinking about it
thank you for using her correct pronouns. every person i’ve seen cover this has misgendered her. while i know she is a bad person, seeing everyone dehumanizing her for being trans and NOT because she is a predator has made me feel quite shitty, as i am a trans guy. this week hasn’t been the best, but thank you for not misgendering her
reminder shadman made cp of eleven from season 1 of stranger things when both the creator and character were preteens, he then had millie sign it irl. his "art" has impacted real children
eww, what the heck?
how is that man not on a list??? 🤢
@@diosnumber1stfan FR, and even Millie signed it 😭✋
these kinds of people make it harder for me to live without being harassed because i am also trans, these people disgust me, trans or not
(edit: whyd i get 100 likes i just made a silly comment
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Yeah this is all about you. A trans person being a child predator means you need to share about how much of a victim you are.
Same, that was my first thought about this. I've already been harassed out of school for being trans, now she's giving them more reasons to call us groomers!
i am so sorry, people need to grow up and realize that being trans and or in the LGBTQIA+ community doesn’t immediately make them a bad person.
"I dont know why i have a cold" your hair is blowing, which means they wind is blowing on you, which makes you cold. And you said you were the detective.
fair point
No, his hair is just that fabulous, it has that feature built in
that’s literally an old wives tale. you can’t get a cold from a fan. if he already was sick, that could worsen the symptoms but it can’t *make* you sick.
@@pinkdragon4830 lol 😭✋
when she came out as trans i was so happy, im a queer minor (not trans, but under that umbrella) and i was never a huge fan, but seeing someone so popular come out was so refreshing. it made me feel so seen. this is disgusting, and im so sad i ever wanted to support her considering what she has said to and about children.
Thank you for using her correct pronouns because her identity has NOTHING to do with this-
No fr!! i’ve seen like 19 vids about this and the all just misgender her! Like i don’t agree with that she did but don’t fucking misgender her?
1:37 this is why i'm taking a break from twitter, so many transphobic people are just hating because of the situation, and saying that all trans people are like ava, it hurts me to see people act like this
It's just a reason for them to be openly homophobic istg
I remember finding shadman as a minor and thinking "cool stuff for me".... then i grew up and learned what CP was
learnt ab him recently bc of this and no joke it caused me to spiral and sh bc it was so degenerate as a victim of sa myself it was just too triggering . I just couldn't bare w the knowledge of smt like this. I can't even watch this vid lol! Js commentin :p
@@pacipwincess I'm really sorry it triggered you so much, I hope you're doin alright now dear ❤️
@@jayking2228 allgood :)
"TRYNA STRIKE THE CHORE BUT IT'S PROLLY A MINORRRRRRRR 🗣🗣🔥🔥" ahhh predator
it's.... it's "strike a chord." since a minor is a chord.
LMAO FR
helpp why are you even saying this when you clearly dont understand what it means considering you wrote "the chore" instead of a chord
Father Louis has once again graced us with his precious gift of wisdom
amen
ayyyymen.
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i think the reason this happens so much is because of the power dynamic that a content creator and a fan have, plus the naiveness (hope thats a word) of young people who just want to be liked by their favorite creators. its a sad world when we give these people platforms without knowing how they are behind closed doors or what they did openly 8 years ago.
It’s actually naïveté but yeah I agree.
It brings me back to James Charles situation honestly.
people attacking ava for being trans and not because she talked to minors is crazy cause literally almost every other predator that’s been exposed this year alone have been cis and straight like colleen or dr disrespect💀
3:31 the way the text is so obviously edited on capcut is so funny to me 😭
its so upsetting because now losers on the internet are blaming it on her being trans instead of blaming her as a person
Yeah they are the worst. Like imagine if a cis person did the same
That being said the internet is hypocritically going after Ava. Like keemstar is direct friends with people who also shared around shadmans work in the same way and same timeframe as Ava, but keemstar only complains about Ava doing it. Theres many people who interact with minors online look at vr chat for example. And theres a good amount of odd conversations like she had with Lava, but nothing that instantly makes someone a groomer or pdf. Yeah it's creepy and Ava deserves to be called out but the amount of people covering it would be infinitely smaller if she wasn't trans.
I don’t think anyone likes keemstar anymore
You couldn’t be more wrong, she is one of the main characters of the biggest TH-cam channel of all time, of course everyone is gonna talk about this. Most of the people hung up about the trans thing are virtue signaling liberals like you.
it kinda feels like youre defending ava in a way. there are many transphobes going after ava for this which i can admit is true, but MANY creators would still cover this because mr beast is a huge creator. since like over a hundred million people at the very least have seen ava, of course people are gonna be talking a ton about this because shes literally famous. saying going after her is hypocritical feels so weird to me, its an great thing people are exposing her for this disgusting behaviour and i dont think it should be described in a negative way at all.
@@lovely2wice It's hypocrtical to cherry picking her out of the thousands of people who promoted, funded and supported shadman a cp artist. Like Belle Delphine the friend of Keemstar promoted Shadman and even cosplayed for him. My prev comment is just saying they should go after a lot more creators with this same energy then just Ava. Like Mr. Beast should def be called out for allowing cp on the walls of the office/room they where in but nope Just Ava.
Side note: the supposed victim Lava went against the narrative and saying the claims about them were nonsense and got harrassed for days because of it. That wouldn't really happen if it was a regular allegation towards someone popular. The trans bias is far bigger of a importance then fame.
@@404maxnotfound i dont think its hypocritical at all, nobody is justifying anybody elses support of shadman, they just arent as aware of it. also about lava getting harassed, thats because he was a victim who just wasnt aware of it. to say people telling lava that hes a victim has anything to do with transphobia is so weird, this has NOTHING to do with kris being trans. ive said it before and ill say it again, yes shes getting a ton of hate from transphobes, but i dont see how thats related to anything youre talking about.
It's so frustrating that people think just because these allegations are coming out now that Ava became a creep after transitioning. But they were always a creep, they just happened to be outed as one after coming out. Them being queer has nothing to do with their actions, and if I'm being honest there are way more cis and het people being outed for doing this same shit than queer people. Ava is a loser, but their trans identity has nothing to do with that.
I always knew I was a victim of my abuser, but the age where I realized the sheer extent of the manipulation and remembered just how many excuses and how much grace I gave these adults involved was heartbreaking. Lava may never see it, or may in a few years...but boundaries WERE crossed, period.
Have you seen about what Nathan posted? He was a member of the discord chat that involved Lava and Kris, he said he was 15 and Lava was 14 back then. He also got some screen shot's from one of the mods of the group who was his friend, it has all the details in it.
This makes me so frustrated. These people wanted a reason to hate on this trans person and unfortunately it gave them a reason. It’s so fucking frustrating, especially because (as you said) this is most likely gen alpha’s first time seeing a trans person, so they’re gonna look up more about it and see how everyone is saying she’s a bad person.
I was waiting for a video about this not made by a transphobe! YAAAAY!
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@@DropDreadCommon Louis W
does anyone else find it weird that there’s been more videos of ava then there was of freckled zelda after everything was revealed?? it’s probably bc zelda is a christian woman and ava is trans…
Also feels that people that bend over backwards to justify dr disrespect and cody ko are now up in arms about ava.
aaa the they say identity doesn't matter or play a role when discussing pdfildes!!! Tired of this broken world
intro always hits so hard
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WAKE UP MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THE KING POSTED 🔥🔥
IM UP
IM UP
I SLEPT IN WHAT DID I MISS!??!?
I find truly horrendous that people were more scared or disgusted and more worried about her being trans than her being a total creep. I find it very awful that people take it to their advantage to say that all trans people are like her when it's really not all trans people.
Dr. Disrespect, MrTLexify, Cody Ko, and Ava. I truly don't get how it's this difficult to not sext, groom, relationships with minors, and/or support *that* type of artwork. The Ava one hurts the most as I have Trans friends and she was a huge breakthrough for the Trans community in mainstream media. Now she's probably set them back by a year, just still angry because it truly does hurt.
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Can’t even be a minor in 2024 anymore 😭😭
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As a minor, i will say that we aren't that interesting. So why do influencers think we are???🤔🤔🤔
Also speaking as a minor, like we fucking suck like why do people like us
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agreed
Thank you for using Avas preferred pronouns and name, your one of the only people that Ive seen talking about this who has! Just because someone is bad doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use their preferred name and pronouns!
Yeah forget the kids, pronouns are the most important thing here! You’re so brave for taking this amazing stand on behalf of a predator! Good job!
@@colin6603 it's not making a stand nor defending a predator. We all HATE her. It's not that we respect her, it's a language thing, Kris is trans, so it'd make sense to call her a she.
@@colin6603 that's not what this is about
@@colin6603 Where in their comment did they say that the kids didn’t matter??? Just bc Kris is disgusting for what she’s done and deserves the backlash, it doesn’t mean her pronouns need to be ignored. It achieves nothing, and you’re able to acknowledge the gross things she said while also acknowledging her pronouns. They aren’t a privilege, her identity has nothing to do with the grooming or CP
@@colin6603misgendering her does nothing, i dont see anyone misgendering sneako, dr disrespect or drake. Her being transgender isnt the issue, its her liking kids.
2:42 by the way, another reason they’re so angry jaden won is because she’s open about being aro/ace
ty ava kris tyson for setting us back 10 more years
7:42 OKAY, EW. I LOVE GRAVITY FALLS. SO MUCH. BUT WTF???? WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD MAKE THIS?! THOSE ARE 1. CHILDREN 2. SIBLINGS. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THIS (I also wasn’t expecting Gravity Falls to come up, barely is. I hope Ava realizes how messed up this is and how she acts)
Brah everyone’s a groomer now.
its just the easiest thing to NOT talk to minors
@@w1steri4no and its so easy to NOT be attracted to them. its so disgusting i dont trust any youtuber anymore
@@boyonline1 FR
fr :(
@@boyonline1 seriously. Im so paranoid that "ZackScottgames" is gonna be a pedo.
I always hated it when people use bad people who just so happen to be queer to then demonize the whole community. Theres plenty of cis gender people who are groomers, do we then say "cis people are bad because they are all groomers"? No we dont, because thats ridiculous. Same goes for the trans community. A very very small percentage are bad people, and it's because they are creeps, not because they're trans. Theres no correlation there.
I hate how this year was a rollercoaster of catching creeps or abusers😭😭
I mean she had a group of ppl that still supported her after she came out and she made that group of ppl hate her too in the worst way congralutions💀👏
atp i think they’re all in a club called ‘ how to BE a predator’
@@lilianahxpkx lmaoo maybe😭💀
As a side note, your look gives woman masquerading as a man to be a pirate on a quest type energy and I love it. Like Anne Bonny vibes.
Bro’s a lamp addict 💀
Moth behaviour
@@CeaselessMistseer Fr
MOTH MENTIONED!!! MOTHS ARE AWESOME, I DONT OWN ANY AND THE MOTHS HERE ARE THE UGLY BORING ONES BUT THEYRE STILL AWESOME, I GOT HOLES IN MY SHIRTS FROM THEM!!! WHAT THE HECK IS A BUTTERFLY🐛🐛🐛🐛
@@someguy1894MOTHS MENTIONED REALLLLL
@@stinkysockuser I LOVE STAYING UP ALL NIGHT AND WATCHING BRIGHT LIGHTS!! *WHATEVER NOISES MOTHS MAKE IDK*
hey louis! this isnt rlly related but i recently hurt my ankle/foot really bad yesterday evening and ur videos are rlly helping me calm down from some pain:-) thanks for making these videos
"We love you detective Louis" we say in unison
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2024 is just a long "to catch a predator" episode 💀💀💀
I was drawing this time actually lolol
But yeah, as a transmasc person, seeing these types of situations go down that involve a trans person does make me a bit nervous because of the stigmatization that we as a community face already with being called predators for the "indoctrination of our agenda" towards kids
So I and many others have to clarify everytime that the actions of an individual trans person or even a group does *not* reflect the community as a whole and that the majority of us do not condone actual predation towards minors (or just anybody in general)
What Ava's done was weird, highly inappropriate, and disappointing to say the least, but her actions have nothing whatsoever to do with her being trans so it shouldn't even be a focal point in this situation because a person's gender has nothing to do with inappropriate interactions with minors or supporting those who create and distribute C-P
obviously louis isnt saying this, i’m just a random commenter; but if anyone is interested in going to Anna oops video about ava, and reporting it for blatant transphobia- where she and the comments focuses more on that, than the predator allegations- then you totally should go do that 😊
as a trans person i can confirm people already dont like us and this whole situation makes it so much worse 😭😭
And it shouldn't cis men get exposed for being groomers all the damn time and no one goes "ugh cis people are nothing but groomers and pedos" there are just shitty people out there and the gender and sexual identities are not reflection of them being bad people
Fr 😢
I hate… all the transphobia around it, I saw an article misgendring her and it’s like, you can condemn her actions without using the wrong pronouns
Ava just sent the queer community back 10 years
25 if you add the shit libs of tiktok and the likes have done with the groomer panic
I genuinely love that Louis still calls Ava by her chosen name and pronouns becuase he’s just a great person?? I always here people like “take away” people’s pronouns if their not good people
the fact that everybody after this happened IMMEDIATELY started misgendering her and backing themselves up w “but they’re a creep!!!” is so baffling to me. sucks that ava did this 🙁
thank you for using her name and for using her pronouns, even though what she did was awful, it's no excuse to misgender or deadname someone
i appreciate the inclusion of the first segment of the video, irregardless of how the situation came out :( too many people are using this as an excuse to be blatantly, violently transphobic and it's really disheartening.
I used to love Mr. Beast…. I’ve already seen a lot on this but it still baffles me every time cause. I was a kid watching this and there’s Ava Kris Tyson over here doing….. this….
He deleted the part from his "I give the pizza delivery man 10.000$" video where Kris had a Loli painting on her wall and the camera was showing it.
I think a lot of people forget that deleting something doesn’t make it go away. Anyone can still find a screenshot of that. It’s disgusting honestly. It baffles me how anyone can support and do that kinda stuff
20:27 im crocheting a new sweater thanks for asking
Thank you for covering this! Me and my little brother had a conversation about this situation wasn't sure about it, so thank you I enjoyed this vid! 💗
I love Louis outros, always cheers me up
I actually am cleaning my hoarder//depression room rn!! A few months ago i wouldn't have believed this room can look so nice
Ive been waiting for someone who i trust not to be transphobic to cover this😭 thank youuu
i got so pissed when i started seeing the comments “SunnyV2 was right!!! he predicted it” HE DISNT PREDICT SHIT??? he treated Ava like a character that only serves to cast on the Mr.Beast channel, and that her being trans would “RUIN his career!!”
HE DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HER BEING A DANGER. he. didnt. say. ANYTHING. of. value.
Sigh, another reason for people to use to be transphobic.
I work at a cleaning company and play your videos for the whole five hours of my shift without getting bored! Thank you for keeping me entertained, you’re awesome‼️
It’s nice to see that you’re doing a an awesome job with your videos. I’ve been here since before you hit 50,000 subs.all I’m saying is keep doing what you’re doing Louis.
Now I see why people say “don’t meet your heroes, they’re just weirdos”
EVERY THING GETS CANCEL WHEN LOUIS MAKES A VIDEO
Recently, Lava has posted a new statement that they misremembered a lot of events and after looking back at the chat logs, it was inappropriate to speak about with him as a child though he doesn't believe he was groomed because that's a very special thing.
not believing you've been groomed doesn't mean u weren't. Im in that same situation rn .p
@@pacipwincessbut it’s unfair to push that idea onto someone when they themselves say they don’t believe they were. It’s up to lava to go on their journey to understand what happened, not us. It’s like saying someone was punched when they themselves say they were slapped instead.
“let me know what you’re doing in the comments below” I always listen to your videos while I work. i’m a dishwasher at a restaurant in my town and it’s really loud in the kitchen. i’m neurodivergent so the sounds bother me a lot. listening to your videos helps a lot because it gives me something to focus on!
wasn’t understanding this controversy, but now louis made a video about it.. ILL FINALLY KNOW!!! 🎉🎉🎉
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@@xenamation WHOOAAA HELLO!!
THE GRAVITY FALLS BIT MADE ME SO HAPPY someone FINALY talks about pinecest (also I was literally drawing Mabel )
I love Mabel and Gravity Falls! 😭💗
Honestly love your videos sm. Your so underrated 😭
The down fall of mr beast was not in my 2024 bingo card
"2024 is my year!" ❎
"2024 is pdf files' year." ✅
I love the endings of you just saying “You are doing great” :3 X3 I think it makes your vids even more enjoyable than they alr are :3 ALSO THANK U SO MUCH FOR MAKIN MY DAY A BETTER
When the Dipper and Mable thing came up I was downloading gravity falls episodes😭😭😭