Gretsch White Falcon vs Gretsch Electromatic! Does It Matter Where It's Made?!

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    Hey guys! In this video we are comparing a Japanese made Gretsch White Falcon ($3999USD) to a Korean made Gretsch Electromatic ($850USD).
    Do you really have to spend all that cash? Let's find out!
    0:00 - Intro Track!
    2:11 - Prologue
    6:04 - Sound Comparison
    7:28 - Verdict!
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  • @NickMcC
    @NickMcC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That intro was just killer. Amazing job. And great content to follow!

  • @Moonwynd5
    @Moonwynd5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came here for the review/comparison and I subscribed about 30 seconds into your intro track because it just sounded phenomenal. Good stuff and looking forward to going through your channel!

  • @Jorgestrat
    @Jorgestrat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome playing and super high quality recording!!!!! Congratulations!!

  • @rigel2112
    @rigel2112 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I thought this was going to be one of those videos where the cheap guitar sounds almost as good as the expensive one. The Falcon is on a different level and worth what it costs.

  • @jayseb
    @jayseb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dude that opening track - very sweet - first time viewer of your channel and you're on point ! Cheers

  • @yankeemuzykant4515
    @yankeemuzykant4515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That intro is amazing! I’ve been here many times and will be back. Congrats!

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! 🙏🏽

  • @junkmandoman1
    @junkmandoman1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hats off to a great review and picking.
    Thank you Ben.

  • @mickeyjohnson1137
    @mickeyjohnson1137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Good comparison video, Ben! I'm an old guy now. I have owned some really nice guitars. I've owned a Gretsch Baldwin-era 6120. A Gibson Super 400 CES with humbuckers. A Les Paul Standard and several other nice Gibsons and Yamahas. (I used to work at the Gibson factory) My main guitars now are a Gretsch Electromatic G5120t and a Gretsch Streamliner G2627t. Honestly, I like these two guitars as much as any others I have owned. I like my 5120 more than I did my 6120. I think it sounds and plays better than my 6120. Some might say I'm old and my hearing is gone, but I'm impressed with these two Gretsches. I always preferred a PAF sound to the Gretsch twang, but I love how Gretsches look and play. My Gretsch Streamliner G2627t sports three Broadtron pickups giving seven different tones. The Streamliner is a limited edition exclusive with a slim, fast neck. Not like other Streamliners with fat necks! And the block inlays are much nicer than the big blocks on other Streamliners. In my opinion, Gretsch is doing a great job with all their instruments. Even though my Gretsches are cheap and receive heavy criticism from most diehard Gretsch fans, I'm happy to own them and have no plans to ever sell them. I liked your video, Ben, and I enjoyed hearing the differences in your two Gretsches. Keep on playin'!

  • @alansamsmusic
    @alansamsmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Ben. Really enjoyed your playing and the tones you were getting out of both guitars.

  • @sickenzzzzz
    @sickenzzzzz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Absolutely love everything about that intro track! I need a Gretsch 100%

  • @spikeafrican8797
    @spikeafrican8797 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That sounded great Ben. Very well done.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @jimmythefish
    @jimmythefish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have a G5622T, I think it’s a great guitar for the price. The pots aren’t very linear, and I upgraded the roller and spring in the Bigsby. I swapped the tuners to Grover Rotomatics. I’ll probably get a TV Jones wiring harness and pickups in the future. If I had a lot of money would I get a Silver Falcon? Sure. But, there’s definitely diminishing returns. The Electromatic is a high quality no frills guitar that anyone can be proud to own and is the standard in the range. It doesn’t require any upgrades out of the box but is a good platform for them.

    • @riphopfer5816
      @riphopfer5816 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve a G5230FT. I gutted it-swapped all the electronics for brand-name; switched the wire for braided. I love Blacktop Filter’Trons; I play psychedelic rock and depending on mi amp/pedal setup, I can get anything from mellow, jazzy blues to 1980s hard rock rhythm tones (even tough ones, like Tom Scholz!), to 90s chainsaw grunge and noise rock . If I take a drug, I can sound like it with that guitar. Just in case, though, for some deeper, richer, less glittery tones, I also made sure I grabbed a Streamliner with Fidelisonic P90s, upon which I ALSO gutted the electronics, added a custom cap to the tone pot, and changed out the cheap plastic knobs for chrome knobs with inset semi-precious gems.

  • @Kennardy
    @Kennardy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watch a lot of guitar videos and that intro was one of the best I’ve heard. Wow! Great!

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much!

  • @JasonGutierrez
    @JasonGutierrez ปีที่แล้ว +44

    You have an unusual White Falcon because it has Dynasonic pickups which are brighter single coils vs the darker humbucking Filtertrons. Most White Falcons come with Filtertrons and comparing a guitar with stock Dynasonics to one with stock Filtertrons is comparing apples and oranges. The Filtertron loaded guitar will always tend to sound darker and less lively overall unless it’s been modded. I would have loved to have heard a White Falcon with Filtertrons compared to an Electromatic with Filtertrons, now that would’ve been a more interesting comparison. But yes, your point is that they both sound good and you don’t have to spend the money but I bet a White Falcon with Filtertrons would sound much closer to the Electromatic and prove your point in a more dramatic way.

    • @mohamedtlass3842
      @mohamedtlass3842 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In my experience this isn’t necessarily the case. I’ve had filtertrons be extremely bright as well. Some others can be darker though like the HS Filtertrons or Broadtrons etc

  • @joelkratzer4065
    @joelkratzer4065 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I just think it’s worth mentioning this was also Dynasonic vs Filtertron

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @thebandcordero
      @thebandcordero ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which one had the Dynosonic?

    • @bassplayer2011ify
      @bassplayer2011ify ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thebandcordero The falcon has the Dynasonics its Gretsch's single coil pickup.

    • @aaronhatch425
      @aaronhatch425 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah that's what I was just saying in a comment, it doesn't make any sense to compare the Dynasonic pickups to the "blacktop" filter trons, they are polar opposites. I don't understand how they can sit there and ask if you can get a good sound out of both guitars when they are made to sound completely opposite of each other😂

    • @qddk9545
      @qddk9545 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronhatch425 Yes I have have been thinking about buying an Electromatic and change the PU´s to Dynsonics. I already have a Brian Setzer 6120 Signature with TV Jones Filtertrons. But I might need to change the tuners, at least the MV pot and maybe the bridge on an Electromatic also.
      The blacktops are Gretch´s cheaper Filtertrons, and the sell them with black, white and, God forbid, red inlays, but they sound OK.

  • @joakimlindell2993
    @joakimlindell2993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That might be the best intro playing to any guitar review I’ve ever heard!

  • @janmilesguitar4571
    @janmilesguitar4571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your truly inspiring music tracks at the beginning of your
    TH-cams. ..great guitar playing.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much 🙏🏽

  • @origionalawesome
    @origionalawesome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That intro tone is sooooo good!!! That's exactly what I want my worship guitar tone to be. I think you should buy what you can afford and love what you get, for me the tone wasn't really that different but I could only guess that they FEEL totally different, with the win going to the White Falcon

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Totally agree! A gretsch will get you a pretty killer worship tone for sure!

    • @DaveTaste
      @DaveTaste 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's a worship tone?

  • @torbjrnlund903
    @torbjrnlund903 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome playing, liked it a lot.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @thebandcordero
    @thebandcordero ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review. Super helpful for us!

  • @TheWalkingSteakhouse
    @TheWalkingSteakhouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    If I had the money I would for sure go with the Falcon. The tone on that thing is so likeable. Also freaking amazing playing man, it's so tasteful ✌

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! 🙏🏽

    • @scott7521
      @scott7521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed! Amazing. This will sound corny AF but it reminds me of a sunset in an Arizona desert.

    • @miahconnell23
      @miahconnell23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @TheWalkingSteakhouse : you’re totally right about the price-point of the falcon: the price is so high, it’s bound to make many of us say “I can’t pay for that right now.” *However:* I don’t recommend-I wouldn’t recommend-waiting until retirement to buy one. When you get deep into old-age, ya pro’lly won’t be going out to gigs, ya pro’lly won’t be playing many shows… *SO* if a Falcon or a particular 6120 is your dream-baby, get it now unless that’d mean going into silly compound interest on a credit card. They’re already expensive, so ya don’t wanna wind up paying double or more than double.

    • @miahconnell23
      @miahconnell23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scott7521 that doesn’t sound corny at all !! In fact, Gretsch makes a single-pickup Tennessee Rose finished in an orange-see-through that’s almost red, and that color is called “Arizona such&such…” in their catalogue ☺️😄🤟

  • @bocabayproductions4362
    @bocabayproductions4362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Ben, Love your Video. Great demo. I have the White TRi5! LOVE MY GRETCH!

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I love mine too!

  • @harrydavidson666
    @harrydavidson666 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    After seeing Billy Duffy of "The Cult" live with his White Falcon in 1985, I was totally obsessed with this guitar. In 1985 Gretsch had finished to exist as a firm and new or even used White Falcons were rare as gold and hard to find. And super expensive! Nevertheless I got one from Germany, but not the desired single cutaway, but a nearly new double cutaway from late 70ies. A stereo model. It was not exactly what I wanted, but at least it was a Gretsch White Falcon. Unfortunately the stereo setup had the disadvantage that there was no master volume for the two pickups, therefore it needed to turn off two volume knobs in order to mute the guitar. In my case, playing at high volumes on stage, it used to produce terrible squealing feedback that I could not handle in time, fiddling in panic with the vast array of tone and volume knobs.
    I sold the guitar at one point, but still had the Falcon "itch". By 1989 Gretsch had started to appear again on the market and they came with the single cutaway Falcon model I had always wanted. So I was the first one in Europe who ordered this guitar. I was totally exited, but when the guitar arrived I was shocked to see that the binding didn't look "golden" like on my 70ies Gretsch but more like copper or even orange. I disliked that and never got over this! When the guitar was broken by stagehands at a concert I was happy that the insurance offered me financial compensation. So I was hunting for another Falcon. And found in Vienna another double cutaway from the early 70ies, this time a mono model. This one was much closer to what I expected and it had a good tone. But soon I changed my musical direction and did not need a "Rock" guitar anymore. I had turned towards 60ies Instrumentals and early Rock'n'Roll - the White Falcon did not really cover these genres to my satisfaction. I used it a fair amount for live gigs, but hardly ever in the studio. But the live gigs were bad for the guitar and struts inside came loose and the instrument lost its tone. This time it took quite some time before I could finally sell it.
    And just when I was sure my Falcon fever had cooled down forever, I saw a 2008 model with Dynasonic pickups on Ebay, the same like in this video. Vertical Logo, single cutaway, aged white, all very counting arguments. And the dollar was down at the time, so it was an easy to finance deal. But once I got the guitar I realized that the orange binding was still in production. And the Melitta bridge was terrible for palm muting - so that needed to be replaced. And so on . . . in the end I had to accept that the White Falcon dream was never gonna satisfy me! The guitar was most uncomfortable to play when sitting, because of the 17" body, the neck profile did not suite my hands and the guitar didn't have the agility of my 6120 DSW, nor did it deliver a tone that was of any use for my music. Once again I was glad when I had managed to sell it.
    What I wanted to say with my long story is, that "dream guitars" will not necessarily make you happy. The White Falcon worked well for Billy Duffy, but not for me. I spent huge amounts of hard earned money on a craving that was based on completely wrong imaginations. Today I still have my orange 6120 DSW from 2006, which suits me very well, two lovely and regularly played Korean models 5128 and 5127, a 1956 Corvette (which is outstanding!) and a great sounding and playing 1957 Rambler, all guitars from a lower price class but perfect for my demands and playing style. And this is what it's all about!

    • @hwnfrd
      @hwnfrd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Really liked your comment as it stresses how playability comes first and foremost. There is nothing wrong about spending less on a instrument because it feels good, that doesn't make you less of a player or person, you stood by what you felt was right for you regardless of cost and or prestige. The pickups can be swapped out, string gauge can be changed ,pots can be changed, but the way a guitar feels in your hands can't be changed. Once again, great story.

  • @edwither8284
    @edwither8284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Back when I bought my White Falcon I went to the store and tried out several electromatic models, and then I tried the White Falcon. For me the difference in tone and feel was drastic. I had to go with the White Falcon and I'm glad I did.

    • @edwither8284
      @edwither8284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I would say if you don't have the money to spend then then the electromatic is a really good choice, But if you try both and nothing but the best will do... Then save up, Get on a payment plan, Sell something else Or some combination of the above.... It will be worth it.

    • @mojostephen
      @mojostephen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a similar experience with an Electromatic vs a 6118 TJR. I tried the E in a music store and was happy with how it played and felt. Then I tried the 6118. Big difference! The 6118 came home with me. Several years later I traded it in on a 6196 Country Club. Now that's a better guitar than anyone who plays at my level needs to own.

    • @STRM1991
      @STRM1991 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had the similar experience but it was with an SG standard and a '61 reissue SG. I was set on the SG standard, although I didn't like the thickness of the neck, it was like a baseball bat. As I was leaving I saw the '61 hanging on the wall, asked if I could play it and the second the neck met the palm of my hand I knew it was for me, purely based on feel. Then I plugged it in.. That was 13 years ago and I still am thankful I saw it hanging there that day and have never looked back since.

    • @charleslang8560
      @charleslang8560 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@STRM1991

  • @CJZonneveld
    @CJZonneveld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to own the G5410t Rat Rod in matte black, but got rid of it after barely a year because whatever i did it would't stay in tune for a whole song...
    But yours sounds absolutely great!
    But i promised myself i will own a White Falcon one day

  • @memorylane1980s
    @memorylane1980s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a falcon and as soon as you picked it up you could feel the difference and I noticed it had a more Gretchy sound than my electromatic had. Electrostatics though are good value for money. I'm playing mine on squizzy104 channel..thx for the vid..great stuff. Ian

  • @michaeljoubert2903
    @michaeljoubert2903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brother! This is amazing! Thank you for this!
    Bro! Your sounds that you have there are amazing. It is literally the sound that I have longed for forever!!! How did you get that sound??? I have tried, but just can't seem to get there! Jesus loves you bro!

  • @carlweiderick
    @carlweiderick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have similar guitars and I like them both. The Electromatics are fine instruments and better for taking places where they could be damaged and the Falcon is well … the Falcon. Great tone and playing.

  • @johnsguitarmusicanddemos
    @johnsguitarmusicanddemos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m happy that I got to play one of these guitars when I found one at guitar center and my wife instantly fell in love with the guitar tones of the $600 try it out. I’m definitely looking forward to when I can buy it.

  • @DavidDucaz
    @DavidDucaz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love that intro, its a sound escape👏🏼

  • @nuttylaurel312
    @nuttylaurel312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your tone and playing 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! 🙏🏽

  • @sirgaryo
    @sirgaryo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow !!! That sounds amazing, lovely playing, yea man 😍🎸👌🔥🔥🔥

  • @aaandersonmn
    @aaandersonmn ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video - love a falcon!!! The special edition white/casino gold is a good comparison. And your background is cool - are those lights behind plexi-glass or something or is that just a relfection in the video?

  • @tsolive
    @tsolive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my G5122 Electromatic, but man hearing these two side by side, that Falcon is SOOO smooth.

  • @supafrogg258
    @supafrogg258 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eyy! You showcased the possibilities of these guitars nicely, with your playing!. Gretschs have a conservative look, but also have a quality distinctive sound, that is specific to the Gretsch brand!

  • @Kevin-the-Just
    @Kevin-the-Just ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great opening track. It has a real 80s alt-pop vibe that's right up my street (check out the band Big Dish). I thought your White Falcon had a brighter sound, and I generally preferred it overall, but both worked really well in the track. I have a G6118T that I love and find that a Gretsch can often solve a problem when one of the usual suspects won't.

  • @msgn8i11s2
    @msgn8i11s2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A while back I chosed between the G5420T Fbl and the G6118T-135 and I finally went with the later. The blue colour is still fantastic and the guitar sounded really good but there were just something with the feel of the G6118T-135 holding it in my hands...

  • @TheElrondo
    @TheElrondo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video and great playing.
    I absolutely love the Falcon, but that's the price of a used car 😆
    I own a korean 5240 and made some mods over time.
    TV-Jones pickups, Gotoh locking tuners, bone nut, compensated alu bridge (i own almost every bridge you can buy for Gretsch's), pots.
    So it plays and sounds very good and enough Gretsch for my needs.

  • @akwamarsunzal
    @akwamarsunzal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review, nice playing too! :-) The Falcon definitely has the edge in direct comparison. That said is it a multi thousand dollar edge? Hmmm? The less expensive guitar definitely sounds great, looks great... Not sure I would spend the $$$ for the Falcon.... Oh, ok, yeah I would ;-)

  • @frankyq3481
    @frankyq3481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude that intro was sick!

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @timmcdonald9877
    @timmcdonald9877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Nice shirt too!!!

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Tim!

  • @andyglamrock
    @andyglamrock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your playing is phenomenal and inspiring

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much Andy!

  • @joeyschreiner
    @joeyschreiner ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I thought the opening was a cover of Tom Cochrane's Big League for a second!

  • @Jeremiah_NE
    @Jeremiah_NE ปีที่แล้ว +5

    great playing. I've found that if you've got your heart set on a Falcon, an Electromatic isn't going to get it done for you. It isn't because the Falcon is worth the extra money, it's because that is your personal aesthetic preference. I started with a 5420T, and now I've got three Falcons, with three different pickup setups (Dynasonic, Filtertron, Hilo'Tron).

    • @mohamedtlass3842
      @mohamedtlass3842 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Falcon with hilotron?

    • @Jeremiah_NE
      @Jeremiah_NE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mohamedtlass3842 Yeah I had to round out my stable and already had a Filter'Tron and a Dynasonic, so I slapped TV-HT's into the third

    • @mohamedtlass3842
      @mohamedtlass3842 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jeremiah_NE I like them in my 62 Tennessean and have liked them in Anniversary models I’ve tried… not sure I would like them in a bigger guitar though

  • @cj5060
    @cj5060 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An affordable alternative to the White Falcon is the Gretsch Red Finch. The Finches Salmonella'Tron pickups are comparable to the Dynasonic pickups, with a bit more chirp and chime than expected from a budget model.

  • @chrisvsmusicny
    @chrisvsmusicny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gretsch models/naming is a headache - since even between Streamliner, Electromatic, etc. you can't really tell which is which at a glace like a Tele, Strat, LP, 335, etc. Like your White Falcon, though, I like that I can just say I've got a Rat Rod. 😊
    I agree with your line of thinking - even the "cheapest" guitar will sound amazing in the hands of someone who knows what to do with it. No price tag on a guitar will buy you the conviction to play it in a way that moves people. Great video!

  • @scott7521
    @scott7521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your music man. Reminds me of Love-era Cult.

  • @maseratination
    @maseratination 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am happy I bought my made in Japan Double Anniversay in 2015. I love my neck with ebony fretboard. I can’t bond with the electromatics. Mine is the sunburst G6117T-HT with a trestle bracing. If it’s going to be your main guitar, spend the extra for made in Japan, they feel and resonate so much better. I will never sell mine! Edit: I just bought a G5420TG LTD ED. in Cadillac Green made in Korea and Rosewood Fretboard and I love it. It has a post bracing and resonates less than my Double Anniversary but the fit, finish and setup is superb!

  • @cooly4831
    @cooly4831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The intro track is sublime. Brilliant work, friend.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @bluzzjazz
    @bluzzjazz ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a G6136LTV in antique white lacquer and TV Jones Filtertrons, hence the LTV designation. It is an unbelievably well-crafted and beautiful guitar. I've played Electromatics and they are nice guitars for the money. I have no regrets paying what I did for my Falcon and it's a keeper. Beautiful intro music by the way, some simple chords with melodic parts doen well is always a winner!

  • @Ackdaddy100
    @Ackdaddy100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That intro track is awesome man

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @chickenwire123
    @chickenwire123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first Gretsch was the 5420T Electromatic in orange but I always dreamed about the classic 6120 - the 1955 model in orange with all the western motif inlays, the G brand, T-Armond pickups and all that. The 5420 sounded great and played well. But I eventually got myself the 6120-55VS and even though I could get three 5420 Electromatics for the same price as the 6120 I don't regret it one bit. The playability, tone and overall finish and quality is so much better in the Japanese 6120. It's my no.1 guitar and always will be.

  • @marcvanhie4425
    @marcvanhie4425 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great playing Ben! The sounds are awesome, can you tell a bit about your recording process and what kind of reverb and delay you're using. I would appreciated that a lot! Thanks.

  • @samualcurtis
    @samualcurtis ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the sound of the music you are playing . Good music

  • @berthut8096
    @berthut8096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make boths guitars sound great!! If I had the money, yes, it would be the Falcon. But I hope to buy the Electromatic one day…

  • @gcchapm
    @gcchapm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a beginner guitar player about to purchase my very first electric. I absolutely love the Gretsch sound and I know that's the only guitar for me. I've been looking at the Electromatic for a month and really appreciate your demo here! While I would LOVE to own a White Falcon, my wife would kill me if I spent $4k on a guitar! I think I'm going for the G 5410TG Rat Rod, almost identical to the one you played, Filtertrons instead of BT Humbuckers. Beautiful playing and I love your Falcon!

    • @brada1997
      @brada1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm in the same boat. I found a sweet used G5427TG limited edition in Dark Blue Sapphire. It really wasn't that much more but it's just so much sharper looking than a G5420T in Fairlane Blue IMO. They all sound amazing.

  • @CB-st6wm
    @CB-st6wm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That intro track is awesome. Good U2 vibe.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! 🙏🏽

  • @googo151
    @googo151 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU HAD ME AT YOUR TONES MAN.

  • @andythefrenchy8026
    @andythefrenchy8026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your vids, I really like them. Subscribed!
    One thing though here: the major sound difference between 2 electric guitars is not the wood (nor the shape, nor the finish, nor the country of production, nor even the body). But very much the pick-ups (at 90%), which are single-coil Dynasonics on your G6136T-LDS White Falcon vs humbucker-style Black-Top Filter'trons on the G5410T Electromatic (and the strings also, but to a much minor extent). A fair comparison would have been to compare your WF with an Electromatic mounted with Dynasonics, both with the same strings. My bet is that it'd be impossible to hear any difference with the White Falcon.

  • @samselband602
    @samselband602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woooah. These tones are incredible

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @skipfires
    @skipfires ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you Need to spend more, or do you JUST HAVE TO?!?!?!?!? Super vid comparison. Thanks Ben.

  • @vinnielmsmith176
    @vinnielmsmith176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That intro jam was incredible! I’d love to write a song in with those beautiful chords, was the jam inspired or completely original?

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Yeah completely original!

    • @Kdschaak
      @Kdschaak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really loved those up sweeps. I have never done those before, but I am going to now. :) Thanks for the inspiration.

  • @unknownentity2429
    @unknownentity2429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you are one hell of a player! Great tone all around I really enjoyed it

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @warmer2
    @warmer2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great playing Ben!! Where is the guitar shop you work at?

  • @trevormcgrath9817
    @trevormcgrath9817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Brian Setzer hot rod and it’s really nice, but I honestly cannot put it leaps and bounds ahead of my 5420T. fortunately, I picked up the Setzer secondhand at a great price and I’m happy to have it. Now on the other hand, I have a streamliner G2655 and G2622 and they don’t come close, though the build quality is excellent on the streamliner. It’s just all those little things the quality of the pots on the streamline only have two positions on or off , it’s the surrounds around the cable input. Just a little things they missed the mark, but still a great guitar for the price but if you’ve got an electromatics and the Japanese guitar, you’re really feel the difference. Sound wise they all sound great

  • @benrobinson3438
    @benrobinson3438 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got a White Falcon earlier this year and it was a gamechanger for me. I've had several USA made guitars and the Japanese made Falcon outdoes them all in my opinion (for what I do, anyways).

    • @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
      @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got a players edish falcon in black. MINT condish. I can tell ya right now lol... Tunes up the fastest and stays in tune the best out of my 40 guitars that I own. Thing is rock solid and doesn't let strings weaken. Perfectly balanced. I even put fat azz 60 gauge strings on it once because I'm stupid and crazy. Hated them strings but the guitar handled that high af tension like a boss! Guitar is a monster. VERY well made. Can't top that high end Japanese gretsch build quality lol.
      Funny. I got it right before covid hit. Struggling college kid. Older fam member gave it to him as a gift and he wasn't into it or guitars for that matter so he was desperate to sell. Got it for 2150 lololol. Such a great price considering these things jumped up to nearly 4 grand now haha. Every time I look to buy a fancy new guitar I just say to myself, Why? You got like the fanciest of the fancy lololol.

    • @mr.e8432
      @mr.e8432 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same experience with a telecaster. I bought the Richie Kotzen signature model, which is made in Japan and it blows away my USA Tele. I actually sold my USA about a month after I got the Richie Kotzen model.

  • @ElephantTusks
    @ElephantTusks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:33 outro is absolutely exquisite.

  • @richardham3030
    @richardham3030 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow.. really.. wow.. great playing! Now I wonder how you produced the sound on your amp and effects.. could/would you enlighten me?

  • @robertwadeexpertkidsdentist
    @robertwadeexpertkidsdentist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your efforts. Just bought my first Gretsch and am very interested.

  • @adrianmastogiovanni
    @adrianmastogiovanni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nunca tuve la oportunidad de probar una Halcon, he tenido Gretsch 5120 Korea que me ha gustado mucho y ahora tengo una Gretsch 5655gt Electromatic (vienen de China) y la verdad que por el momento me da buena satisfacción. Se siente la diferencia en la Halcon Japon! Buen tono!

  • @musicmnw1982
    @musicmnw1982 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a Streamliner on sale cheap and I LOVE it. I'm looking at moving up to the Electromatic one of these days.

  • @brettgayer8170
    @brettgayer8170 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is no substitute for a grinch white falcon. It’s in a class all its own nice comparison. Loved your sound samples great job.

  • @abeval8496
    @abeval8496 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think you gave the right answer.
    I just upgraded my 5420 with Ray Butt's HS filters and Brian Setzer signatures and it makes a huge notable difference. More clarity, growl, sustain, and improved tones overall. More character if you will.
    I didn't have $3500 for the holy grail of guitars, the White Falcon, but I think this gets me pretty damn close and is actually more customized to what I'm shooting for. Gonna upgrade the hardware little by little but I'm very satisfied with the sounds I'm getting from it.
    Thanks for the comparison!

  • @uncleaj87
    @uncleaj87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ben, I had a dream I was leading worship with the elecromatic guitar. Thinking maybe God is telling me I should get one, most likely not. But I look it up and can’t find it anywhere 😭 I can’t afford it right now anyways so…. I’ll just go cry on the inside now.
    Great video! 👍🏻😊

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha excellent comment, thank man 🙏🏽

  • @viperBSG
    @viperBSG ปีที่แล้ว

    for gearheads the Electromatic is the G5410T Tri-Five limited edition. Same guitar as the Rat Rod but pretty glossy finishes instead. Great guitars.

  • @musiqueurbaine
    @musiqueurbaine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, love them both! That said I’ve been dreaming of owning a white falcon for 40 years. Last March I bought me a Electromatic 5420T-140 and I love her! No it’s not a Falcon but it has surpassed all my expectations and more. Money is the reason I’ll never buy the other. I don’t make much money because I am disabled. But I’d sure accept one as a gift. Thank you! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @rockinbobokkin7831
    @rockinbobokkin7831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that was a sick jam. thanks for not playing blues. I need more reviews like that.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! More like this on my channel 🤙🏽

  • @alvarotouzon6952
    @alvarotouzon6952 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i've got an electromatic for a year, and its fun and got great songs, so play it and gets best from it. Ben thanks for the advice

  • @UmbertoRonco
    @UmbertoRonco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Channel dude i've seen that you too are a Gretsch fan like me.

  • @nicholasg923
    @nicholasg923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The pro line will always be better crafted (maybe hold its resale price too) but as for feel, tone & playability a good setup with great strings can go a long way (a fully intonated Gretsch) . Factor in a new harness & things are sounding good.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep exactly!

  • @andrewmills2538
    @andrewmills2538 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The intro song is just amazing! Is it on a streaming service?
    Just bought a 5420 this morning-hope I can play like this one day

  • @Steve_S.I.C.
    @Steve_S.I.C. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video, which amp did you use? Thx

  • @pjh6930
    @pjh6930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've ordered a 55 vintage select Falcon as, I was in a position to be able to but, I have also played a few 'budget' Gretsch guitars and, from a build perspective, there is not much wrong with them. Cheap electronic components seems to be the main issue with the cheaper models and, that's an easy fix. Budget guitars today are not the budget guitars of my day!

  • @petermckernanmusic757
    @petermckernanmusic757 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Intro track was great!

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @Kdschaak
    @Kdschaak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's the headstock on the Falcon that has me over the moon. So sick. But I could never afford one. I do have a hollow body classic and and a Rat Rod. I'm very happy with
    both. It's all about the Filtertrons anyway. :)

  • @andothermoves
    @andothermoves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome version of Big League by Tom Cochrane man. Your playing is great. Cheers!

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! It does sound a bit similar! I’d never heard that song until just now 🤣

  • @Oscarhobbit
    @Oscarhobbit ปีที่แล้ว

    I own 4 Gretsch guitars, I played the same US Strat and Gibson for over 30 years until found Gretsch. The Falcon has a little more chime , to my ear the G54 had a little more punch. I would love to hear a G54 with a set of dynasonic pickups. I enjoyed your playing lovely guitar work. Here is an interesting comparison a Gretsch G2420 and a Harley Benton Bigtone. Many people could never afford a Falcon and perhaps would struggle to even purchase a G54t, but streamliners and Harley Benton are within the grasp of most.

  • @noselfcontrol
    @noselfcontrol หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dreamed of getting a White Falcon and saved up my dollars (about $5500 Aus at the time), I played several but didn't really like how they felt. I was super disappointed and was going to forget about it, then my wife suggested I try out an Electromatic. I went around the local guitar shops and tried more than ten Electromatics before I came across a really nice White/Gold G5622TG that I bought. After a couple of years I had a luthier set it up, I put fat flat wounds on it and it's even better. I absolutely love playing jump blues on it! I know a lot more about guitars these days and realise the guitars I tested out back then were probably not set up very well by the guitar shops, but the difference between the same model Gretsche guitars was huge. I used the left over money to buy more guitars lol

  • @slimigan
    @slimigan ปีที่แล้ว

    The intro track is fire

  • @JoeyJoJoJr51
    @JoeyJoJoJr51 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing a lot of people don’t consider is that the Falcon is 25.5” scale length vs Electromatics 24.6” scale length. I bought my Falcon (G6136T-LTV) around 15 years ago because it had always been my “dream guitar”. I don’t live anywhere near a pro-line Gretsch dealer, so bought it without playing one first. The truth is it has rarely seen the light of day since I got it because I find the longer scale length doesn’t suit me. I won’t sell it, because I still think it’s the pinnacle of production line guitars and I still love owning it, but I’ve bought several Electromatics since then which have received infinitely more play time because I find their shorter scale length much more comfortable.

  • @XiaNingTian
    @XiaNingTian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've A/B'd a 5420 and 6120. Loved both, but the 6120 beat out the 5420 for me just for overall build and feel. Like you, I have more fun playing the 6120. Definitely worth it because I love my 6120 so much. In the end, regardless of price, I say buy the guitar that you connect with.
    To answer your question, I'd personally would want to own a Falcon.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can’t really get away from the feel of a well crafted (and usually more expensive) instrument! Not to say the cheaper (Chinese etc) models aren’t made well, or don’t play well, but if you know you know!

  • @TaylorcommaKonnor
    @TaylorcommaKonnor ปีที่แล้ว

    my mouse double clicked the link and i watched the whole video with a slight delay and it was incredible

  • @nekkon1989
    @nekkon1989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the same dilemma when choosing a Stratocaster model. I had the money to buy an American, but if you pay triple the price you want it to sound, play and feel three times as good which is never the case. So I bought the Player, which is made in Mexico but it is still a Strat. I guess with the electromatic you still get the Gretsch experience and sound without breaking the bank. In a mix they don't sound all that different. I would happily pay the $4,000 for the white falcon if it inspired me to play a lot more

  • @JesseMoto
    @JesseMoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can listen to you all day. Do you teach?

  • @Ledzepfan88
    @Ledzepfan88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous intro!!!

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

    • @Ledzepfan88
      @Ledzepfan88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BenNeal you're welcome! Hate to put you on the spot but there's a few I'm looking at, just wanted your opinion, on if you could only get one, or narrow it down to 2.. which would it be and why. First the White falcon (conjures up images of Malcolm young in the back in black era. Gretsch also have the signature model with one roaring powertron in the bridge.
      In the vein of one pickup tone monsters I've been eyeing the junior, wether standard or custom shop.
      On the other side of the spectrum we have led Zeppelin, the Jimmy page telecaster, or a custom shop 50s tele, and finally the r8/r9 Les Paul or gold top variant with p90s.. It's an awesome dilemma to have but I just can't see myself saving cash for years to have them all lol which would be your go to and why? Thank you sir!

  • @petersardelich5386
    @petersardelich5386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I thought both guitars sounded great. Better is so subjective.... as you said different tools for different jobs.

  • @marioflaquer2280
    @marioflaquer2280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You make the mistake of comparing a guitar with humbuckers to one with single coils. The sound, regardless of the price of each one, is going to be very different. You should compare different price ranges with the same type of pickups. Greetings

  • @benrait6764
    @benrait6764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The White Falcon has a brighter sound but I wonder if the difference could be minimized with some tone knobs. Also, I think the Electromatic has more layers of wood laminate in the body construction and that may contribute to the darker sound. Pick ups are definately voiced different. I have and Electromatic 5422TG with the double cutaway. It is a great instrument with a wide range of tones and a very comfortable playable neck.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the pickups will be the biggest factor in my opinion!

  • @AlexanderVonMalachi
    @AlexanderVonMalachi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah Falcon sound was on another level. Even on my phone speaker I felt that.

    • @BenNeal
      @BenNeal  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh wow!

  • @frank-mm7oo
    @frank-mm7oo ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job.