Ron2Millionare Schemmel was also Morrison from the Hoenn league who in Japan was voiced by Goku's original voice actress. Which is especially funny because Morrison looks like an orange haired Yajirobe.
Remember when you watched Guts vs Nightmare, you were like: "LOL hey look Lucario vs Renamon! People probably would like to watch it." Then, like a couple years later...
I don't know Ris. To me, it's perfectly fine that Ben and Chad don't reveal all the information for the analysis. I mean, they explain everything at the end anyway. I don't find it annoying, I just find it fun that I was extremely confident for the character I was rooting for having to almost second guess myself because they brought up interesting points for the other character, and then I smile in satisfaction sticking with my preferred character when they win. To me, they do it to make the audience more engaged because if they revealed all the information and it's a complete stomp, then it wouldn't be as fun if the winner was that obvious. But hey, that's just my opinion. Cheers.
There is, it is used mainly when a Digimon has used so much energy that not even their Rookie stages are assessable or when they need to grow after being born or in Patamon and Wormon's cases reborn, though with time and food they will reach Rookie again
I had to look it up, Rookie is level 3 out of all the stages? What is level one? For Ris: Digimon of the Rookie level (成長期 Seichouki?, translating as Child), also known as Level III so, there are two sets below a rookie, it seems.
Heal Pulse to heal itself? What? What? No, Ben, that's not how Heal Pulse works. That little misinformation is gonna bug me through the end of time like how DB said Android 18 could absorb energy. This match is exactly as I thought as it would go, however. Though Renamon should have burst into Data particles after dying, which would then turn her into a Digiegg in the Digital World, and then she would be reborn again, so.... she's technically not dead? Lucario didn't finish the job.
Juho Tapojärvi That and didn't the season in which Renamon comes from do away with the whole aspect of the digi-egg rebirth thing? I might be wrong since I haven't seen it in years but I'm pretty sure In Tamers whenever a digimon was defeated it just got turned into data and was absorbed by the victor
In Digimon, the evolutions seem to give a x10 power increase per level. In the second season, Arukenimon uses 1 Controll Spire to create a Champion, 10 to make an Ultimate and 100 to make a Mega. And often, the whole team of rookies would lose to a champion, untill one of them digivolves to champion, which is then stronger.
Even though you're not too hype for the next fight, You can at least take comfort in the fact it's being Animated by Torrian. So you can look forward to a high quality 3D animation!
Mattardis We've gotten Killer Instinct vs. Mortal Kombat, Killer Instinct vs. Soul Calibur, Killer Instinct vs. Mario (for some reason) and now it's Street Fighter vs. Killer Instinct
Wouldn't the leaves make it a grass typ move, like Razor Leaf? And, if it is indeed leaves, wouldn't Lucario, a Steel Type, be resistant to the leaves?
you weren't completely wrong since Lucario is somewhat based off Anubis who was the guardian of graveyards and the dead who also weighed the deceased's heart against the feather of truth so, from a inspiration point of view, it was god vs. spirit
I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED HOW THEY DIDN'T AT LEAST STRETCH THE FIGHT OUT A LITTLE BIT BY DEMONSTRATING HOW LUCARIO COULD NOT BE TRICKED BY RENAMONS MULTI-FORM TECHNIQUE OR CAMO. Sorry, just really felt like battle was waaaaay too short and there were so many more things to show.
Yeah the hit effects were a lot better cause they had a different animator, all the weird sounding fight animations were animated by Jetz. He makes good fights in terms of speed and action but sound effects have always been and still are his weakest point from the looks of it. Only fight he animated that had completely good sfx from him is Ken vs Terry I'd say
heres the problem, i dont know much about digimon fyi, but it appears that in digimon there is one main renemon that is a part of the story while in pokemon there are millions of lucario and there are at least 2 that play roles in the story for a shot time, it doesnt follow any one lucario for long enough to get good reads on what it can survive and stuff like that, i do believe that lucario is stronger and deserved the win but every pokemon is different down to evs and ivs and even natures so while one may be able to survive some move another may not be able to
There's Rika's Renamon (anime), Rika's Renamon (manga), Yuma's Renamon and a variety of various wild Renamon. The main issue is SA claimed both Lucario and Renamon would have access to all their naturally learned moves. They did this for Lucario but for Renamon they skipped over all other incarnations and only gave her the basic melee moves that Rika's tends to use. This would be like them saying all Lucario can *only* use Aura Sphere and Detect because those are the only two moves that Sir Aaron's used. I don't know if they cut out her other moves due to lack of research, laziness or they just didn't consider them "naturally learned".
The stupid thing about their analysis is that regular Lucario is a 'glass cannon', in terms of its stats. Yet, they made it seem like it can withstand a fire-type attack. Which highlights just how Pokemon anime contradicts the video games. Lucario is simply versatile, not durable.
I like how they count Heal Pulse as a recovery move. I mean, it kinda is, but in a 1v1 battle, if we're going by Pokemon mechanics, Lucario would only be able to use Heal Pulse on the opponent. That WOULD have been pretty awkward, though...
I believe I specified 1v1, so that's why I didn't feel like adding in the ally-bit, since in Death Battle, that knowledge is pretty null. And for that second one, I don't believe Renamon would possess any Pokemon-abilities, and if they did, it definitely wouldn't be Magic Bounce.
In the anime Lucario has healed himself with heal pulse before and he ain't the only one Yes you are free to rage But since they used the animes as refference for both then...ya know
Oh. I did not know this. I guess it's more fine, then. I know the anime is certainly not a good place to take reference from, but I'm not gonna judge that. Thx for pointing that out.
The issue with revealing all of the numbers is that it would ruin any of the suspense of the animation itself. Fights are more fun to watch for a lot of people when the victor isn't obvious at the outset. One example for me is the Goku vs Superman Death Battles. They weren't that fun for me because I was just sitting there for a half an hour waiting for Goku to die. There was no suspense, and that made the build up pointless. I can definitely understand feeling a mite cheated when the fighter you supported lost because of hidden data, but at the same time, if they reveal all of the data in the analysis, they might as well just skip the analysis and fight entirely and say "This fighter would win, and here's why."
welp , I have only seen the first digimon series witch has no sign of renamon. when I was very little. but later on I saw loucario, I'm pretty chaffed with the results.
Fffs I would have preffered this one in 3D...why would they do a match between 2 boxers from fighting games in 3D over pokemon vs digimon in 3D...like..Come on. Is almost like they wanna annoy people
Renamon never used her multi-form or teleporting abilities in the fight, plus I don't recall Lucario using Heal Pulse to heal itself. Also though they claim Renamon was faster based on stats, they don't back it up with how Lucario catches her off guard several times and she only gets hits in inbetween his attacks, rather than outspeeding him.
Except they went for another "composite" character and gave Lucario the best possible elements of all of them. Being able to use Aura, self-heal (impossible to do in the games), able to read Renamon's moves (impossible to do in the games) and getting stronger the more damage it took (only possible in Smash). Renamon is stated as being able to use the multi-form and teleport, but neither comes into play in the fight when those abilities could have been extremely useful.
That's fine and all, but the DB crew contradict their own claims of Renamon being able to consistently keep to a high speed where Lucario, they claim, only manages it for short bursts. That's not backed up by the battle where Lucario outspeeds Renamon several times and she only gets shots in when he stops blitzing her. So if they were of comparable speed (with Renamon being able to maintain that speed for longer like they claim), the fight would have played out different.
+Greatsaiyakirby _"Except they went for another "composite" character and gave Lucario the best possible elements of all of them. Being able to use Aura"_ All Lucario... heck, all _Riolu_ are born able to use Aura. _"self-heal (impossible to do in the games)"_ Drain Punch leeches health from the enemy, Rest focuses internal psychic energy to heal the user. _"able to read Renamon's moves (impossible to do in the games)"_ Mind Reader enures a hit by seeing how the enemy will evade, and Me First uses Aura to copy an attack _that the enemy has not used yet._ _"getting stronger the more damage it took (only possible in Smash)"_ Lucario's Justified Hidden Ability causes him to increase attack power by one stage for every hit of the move Beat Up. That's why Smash Bros has Lucario increase in power gradually as he gets beat up. _"the DB crew contradict their own claims of Renamon being able to consistently keep to a high speed where Lucario, they claim, only manages it for short bursts. That's not backed up by the battle where Lucario outspeeds Renamon several times and she only gets shots in when he stops blitzing her."_ That's called Extreme Speed. _"So if they were of comparable speed (with Renamon being able to maintain that speed for longer like they claim), the fight would have played out different."_ If you did any real research, you would have typed differently.
"All Lucario... heck, all Riolu are born able to use Aura." Except Aura is not something that factors into the games, where Lucario/Riolu comes from primarly. The anime and Smash are different entities with different rules. "Drain Punch leeches health from the enemy, Rest focuses internal psychic energy to heal the user." Except we don't see Lucario use those moves against Renamon, they explicitly mention Heal Pulse, which does not heal the user. "Lucario's Justified Hidden Ability causes him to increase attack power by one stage for every hit of the move Beat Up. That's why Smash Bros has Lucario increase in power gradually as he gets beat up." Hidden Abilities are not a thing wild Pokemon have, it takes specific input by a trainer/player to get a Lucario with Hidden Abilities. They explicitly removed the human factor in this battle. "That's called Extreme Speed." Still doesn't excuse them contradicting their statement that Renamon and Lucario were roughly equal in speed, which is not what we see in the battle. "If you did any real research, you would have typed differently." I did my research, it's the DB crew who say one thing, and then do another with the DB itself. My points all still stand.
The furry fight has concluded and up next is a boxing match... eh, despite being a champion at Dexter Boxing in Ape Escape I'm not too keen about this fight. Assumably it's 3D so that's good I guess. Come on Torrian... make me invested in this battle and I might give a crap about the one after it.
So was Lucario: the Pokemon Anime is 90% filler and really underpowers Pokemon in general. Unlike the anime, the Pokemon Adventures manga actually follows the game lore and was directly approved by Pokemon's creator, Satoshi Tajiri. The following are a few trained Lucario feats from the manga: cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/04/Lucario_moveset.png
The world of digimon only has three types that I know one of which I forget the name of vaccine which is a medicine type and virus what type is she I don't believe that was mentioned in anything that I know
When I first heard this, I gathered: - Lucario is weak to fire and fighting. They highlighted that. Renamon has mostly martial arts attack and kicks with fire. . Lucario can be confused when feleing too many Auras. Renamon can split herself in three for an attack. - Lucario knows a healing move...but Healpulse does not heal the user, but the target! - On the other hand they show Renamons power by comparing it with the strongest possible comparism (blue ice), so...yeah, they are buffing her. Lucario wins. I feel they negletcted to address Lucarios shortcomings, and may even have misunderstood how Healpulse works. Overall, I'm okay with the result though
Oh, also: Renamo was the partner of a main character in Tamers, and did fight against stronger oponents...but obviously learned to digivolve for real challengers. Plus they stated early, that Lucario has some defense. Renamon was faster more consistingly, but never outpaced Lucario by much, and since Lucario was able to keep track of her with Aura, she never really could use the speed advantage to surprise him
shadowhunter0815 It's not like Digimon's dead though. There are two series that are ongoing and English version games have been released since last year.
Alexander Ceja nah, champion level is kind of just a title. Plenty of champion level Digimon are in the weaker side and aren't even building level in terms of destructive capability unlike stronger ones like Greymon, Growlmon, etc. So I'd say some megas could definitely beat some champions
Alexander Ceja Champion Level Digimon aren't that strong, most Mega Pokémon can handle them. The thing they can't handle would be Ultimate Level Digimon. Using WarGreymon in the last Death Battle was overkill. If you look at the profiles of basically most Ultimate Level Greymon-species Digimon it'll say they have offensive power equal to a singular nuclear warhead. In MetalGreymon's case, low-level Digimon would be annihilated without a trace. In RizeGreymon's case, its power and recoil makes it normally impossible for it to use rapid-fire.
Im sorry, usually i agree with screwattacks explanations but this, i must call bullshit. And before u even call me a "butthurt digimon fanboy" or some shit like that, i am a COLOSSAL pokemon nerd and fanboy, and like it much better than digimon. But for one, how tf would lucario sense renamons aura if shes digital/made of data? Sure digimon are sentient but can they be classified as organic living beings with aura if they are made of data? And if im not mistaken, lucario doesnt have a self healing move. Heal pulse heals your allies and/or opposing pokemon, not yourself. So in the fight lucario was taking far more damage than renamon, and if u wanna talk move diversity, then why was lucario basically just spamming bone rush mostly? Dont get me wrong, i agree lucario would likely be the victor in a fight between it and (tamers) renamon, but the way they portrayed it was bull.
When manifested in the real world, Digimon are just as flesh and blood as humans. As for spamming Bone Rush, he kind of cheated and used it with other attacks to get speed + damage.
PikaSpark97 Incorrect whilst that may be true they already explained that aura can be used to sense incoming attacks around lucario so sensing those attacks can work as well as the fact that lucario was being smart by using bone rush to block attacks however the heal pulse part they mentioned was just dumb
Wiz: *For this match, we will analyse these species as they are.* Me: Okay, so they're wild. *Using non-canon references* Me: Okay, so that was misleading.
Ok I get that rookie Digimon are pretty under-powered but rookie is the second stage of Digimon evolution like Lucario is in its second stage of Pokemon evolution. Lucario goes from baby to adult just like renamon goes from baby to rookie so stop being so triggered Digimon fans!!!!
rookie is technically the 3rd stage in digimon line. it goes baby, in-training, rookie, champion, ultimate ,mega. in Renamons case it is Relemon - Viximon - Renamon - Kybubimon - Taomon - Sukuyamon.
The problem with your logic here is that Pokémon and Digimon are not equal to each other in terms of power scaling or in how their evolutions work. Digimon evolutions are more structured than Pokémon evolutions, with each stage of evolution being different tier. Most Rookie / Child Level Digimon would not stand a chance against most Champion / Adult Level; most Champion / Adult Level Digimon wouldn’t stand a chance against most Ultimate / Perfect Level Digimon and so on. With Pokémon evolutions, most evolved Pokémon are only slightly stronger than their previous stage: a Charmander is weaker than a Charmeleon, but it still has a chance of beating one in a fight. There’s also the fact that Digimon has at least six stages of evolution (the first two are unimportant as they usually lack any significant fighting capabilities), whereas the most stages any Pokémon has is three (not counting Mega Evolution). Some Pokémon only have two or don’t evolve at all, whereas all Digimon, even Mega / Ultimate Level Digimon, have the potential to evolve into a stronger Digimon, so we can’t even say that Pokémon’s stages of evolution are analogous to Digimon’s stages. In short, it doesn't matter if they allowed evolutions or not, since either way it'll be seen as "unfair", just like with Red & Charizard VS Tai & Agumon.
don't care they are a species so it's obvious that there are females. for renamon there's only one (well only one that matters) and it's male. it's really creepy and weird hearing a female voice coming out of his mouth.
The reason why they compared Lucario to Goku is because in the English dub, Goku and Lucario are both voiced by Sean Schemmel.
And they have some similar powers.
Ron2Millionare Schemmel was also Morrison from the Hoenn league who in Japan was voiced by Goku's original voice actress. Which is especially funny because Morrison looks like an orange haired Yajirobe.
Ron2Millionare Thats awesome.
Really I thought people compare them because they fight so similar
Ron2Millionare they both are voiced by a beta
Right when lucario vs renamon was showed, I right away choose lucario.
I guess they finally ate that sloth thing cause there's no sign of it
Wonder how it tasted?
Probably like a home cooked meal by Blue Apron.
I was really confused for a second
but then i realized what you meant
R.I.P sloth thing :*(
And now the losing streak begins...
QJD1381 *TRIGGERED*
Lucario can also use "Aura Storm" to shot a Aura enegry like Kamehameha
Đức Thành Vũ Trần in smash only
I figured Diamond Storm wouldn't do much against Lucario, so for me the winner here was... clear-cut.
NO RENAMON!
The Digimon Evolution Chart is:
Egg -> Hatchling -> Baby -> Rookie -> Champion -> Ultimate -> Mega -> Super Ultimate
no damnit renemon didnt get lucariowned, she got boned ;)
Balrog is from Street fighter, and TJ combo is from killer instict. they are both former champions who got barred from the ring for various reasons.
ahed jehad And normal humans who go up against superhumans, gods, and all manner of far superior beings on a regular basis.
Remember when you watched Guts vs Nightmare, you were like: "LOL hey look Lucario vs Renamon! People probably would like to watch it."
Then, like a couple years later...
This has way less views and likes than it should... Awesome battle, and awesome video. Good Job Ris👍
Don't forget that Bone Rush is a Ground-Type move!
Torrian did say that Balrog Vs Tj Combo will be in 3D.
coolmancool I was so excited when I heard tori (probably spelled that wrong) was going to animate the battle because he is one of their 3d animators.
5:49 RASENGAN!
I don't know Ris. To me, it's perfectly fine that Ben and Chad don't reveal all the information for the analysis. I mean, they explain everything at the end anyway. I don't find it annoying, I just find it fun that I was extremely confident for the character I was rooting for having to almost second guess myself because they brought up interesting points for the other character, and then I smile in satisfaction sticking with my preferred character when they win.
To me, they do it to make the audience more engaged because if they revealed all the information and it's a complete stomp, then it wouldn't be as fun if the winner was that obvious. But hey, that's just my opinion. Cheers.
What does Lucario have that Renamon doesn't?
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So you also a man of culture
Before watching this I was looking for another season of digimon and coincidentally I found tamers with renamon
There is, it is used mainly when a Digimon has used so much energy that not even their Rookie stages are assessable or when they need to grow after being born or in Patamon and Wormon's cases reborn, though with time and food they will reach Rookie again
I had to look it up, Rookie is level 3 out of all the stages? What is level one?
For Ris: Digimon of the Rookie level (成長期 Seichouki?, translating as Child), also known as Level III so, there are two sets below a rookie, it seems.
Stage one and two are baby/fresh and baby 2/in-training. Technically Child/Rookie is level three but it's still only the *first* combat capable stage.
Heal Pulse to heal itself? What? What? No, Ben, that's not how Heal Pulse works. That little misinformation is gonna bug me through the end of time like how DB said Android 18 could absorb energy.
This match is exactly as I thought as it would go, however.
Though Renamon should have burst into Data particles after dying, which would then turn her into a Digiegg in the Digital World, and then she would be reborn again, so.... she's technically not dead? Lucario didn't finish the job.
it has healed the user a couple of times in the anime. its inconsistant to the games, but it has
Heal pulse works that way in the anime
Actually, about the digiegg thing, if a Digimon is killed in the Human world, the digimon does die, well, unless they can find a host.
Juho Tapojärvi That and didn't the season in which Renamon comes from do away with the whole aspect of the digi-egg rebirth thing? I might be wrong since I haven't seen it in years but I'm pretty sure In Tamers whenever a digimon was defeated it just got turned into data and was absorbed by the victor
3kwe #AA dude don't reference the anime cause in the anime a thunderbolt attack hits a flying type pokemon and gains electric armor
In Digimon, the evolutions seem to give a x10 power increase per level. In the second season, Arukenimon uses 1 Controll Spire to create a Champion, 10 to make an Ultimate and 100 to make a Mega. And often, the whole team of rookies would lose to a champion, untill one of them digivolves to champion, which is then stronger.
Ris, go through Balrog Vs TJ, that Death Battle was Awesome.
Even though you're not too hype for the next fight, You can at least take comfort in the fact it's being Animated by Torrian. So you can look forward to a high quality 3D animation!
Mattardis We've gotten Killer Instinct vs. Mortal Kombat, Killer Instinct vs. Soul Calibur, Killer Instinct vs. Mario (for some reason) and now it's Street Fighter vs. Killer Instinct
I'm well aware. And of all of those fights you mentioned, how many of them were 3D animations?
Mattardis I just meant I was excited. Sorry. Though I got a feeling (unresearched) that TJ Combo will win. Idk, just a feeling.
Killer Instinct making a comeback, but I had to see who will win and also I want to see the next Death Battle after Balrog vs TJ Combo
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Lucario, you are such a BADASS Fighting/Steel type!
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Digimons do have a baby stage, it's called In-Training form.
Also, Fresh form.
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how come they didnt explain that the more damage lucario takes the more he gets stronger and his aura rises
Because Lucario can't do that outside of Smash, which isn't canon.
Granted they left out some of Renamon's moves as well.
You're asking why they didn't include a noncannon ability for Lucario, I'm asking why they didn't include most of Renamon's cannon abilities/moves.
Wouldn't the leaves make it a grass typ move, like Razor Leaf? And, if it is indeed leaves, wouldn't Lucario, a Steel Type, be resistant to the leaves?
You might not like the characters, but will you still react to Balrog vs TJ?
Did anyone notice that the battle lasted 1 minute and 30 seconds?
you weren't completely wrong since Lucario is somewhat based off Anubis who was the guardian of graveyards and the dead who also weighed the deceased's heart against the feather of truth so, from a inspiration point of view, it was god vs. spirit
I know that Balrog is from Street Fighter V, not sure about TJ Combo.
I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED HOW THEY DIDN'T AT LEAST STRETCH THE FIGHT OUT A LITTLE BIT BY DEMONSTRATING HOW LUCARIO COULD NOT BE TRICKED BY RENAMONS MULTI-FORM TECHNIQUE OR CAMO.
Sorry, just really felt like battle was waaaaay too short and there were so many more things to show.
Ris. will you do a let's play on sonic mania?
Balrog is from street fighter and TJ combo is from killer instict
Ye my boi lucario won :)
Renomon round house kick vs chuck Norris's round house kick
I disagree with your assessment of the Pokemon World Vs Digimon World.
Yeah the hit effects were a lot better cause they had a different animator, all the weird sounding fight animations were animated by Jetz. He makes good fights in terms of speed and action but sound effects have always been and still are his weakest point from the looks of it. Only fight he animated that had completely good sfx from him is Ken vs Terry I'd say
In the next Death Battle I'm rooting for TJ Combo because his real name is Tyler-Johnson Garrett and my name is Garrett XD
I've got good news for you, mate. :3
Voice Man lol yup, saw the battle. It was great XD
heres the problem, i dont know much about digimon fyi, but it appears that in digimon there is one main renemon that is a part of the story while in pokemon there are millions of lucario and there are at least 2 that play roles in the story for a shot time, it doesnt follow any one lucario for long enough to get good reads on what it can survive and stuff like that, i do believe that lucario is stronger and deserved the win but every pokemon is different down to evs and ivs and even natures so while one may be able to survive some move another may not be able to
oh and no, lucario cant heal itself, the only healing move it learns is heal pulse which affects the target, not the user
Benjamin Hewitt yeah but lucario never healed
There's Rika's Renamon (anime), Rika's Renamon (manga), Yuma's Renamon and a variety of various wild Renamon. The main issue is SA claimed both Lucario and Renamon would have access to all their naturally learned moves. They did this for Lucario but for Renamon they skipped over all other incarnations and only gave her the basic melee moves that Rika's tends to use. This would be like them saying all Lucario can *only* use Aura Sphere and Detect because those are the only two moves that Sir Aaron's used. I don't know if they cut out her other moves due to lack of research, laziness or they just didn't consider them "naturally learned".
The stupid thing about their analysis is that regular Lucario is a 'glass cannon', in terms of its stats. Yet, they made it seem like it can withstand a fire-type attack. Which highlights just how Pokemon anime contradicts the video games.
Lucario is simply versatile, not durable.
Amethyst Maelstorm They use the anime and they use the digimon anime that seems fair to me
I like how they count Heal Pulse as a recovery move. I mean, it kinda is, but in a 1v1 battle, if we're going by Pokemon mechanics, Lucario would only be able to use Heal Pulse on the opponent.
That WOULD have been pretty awkward, though...
Or ally in Doubles/Triples. Heal Pulse can heal the user when reflected back with Magic Bounce.
I believe I specified 1v1, so that's why I didn't feel like adding in the ally-bit, since in Death Battle, that knowledge is pretty null.
And for that second one, I don't believe Renamon would possess any Pokemon-abilities, and if they did, it definitely wouldn't be Magic Bounce.
In the anime Lucario has healed himself with heal pulse before and he ain't the only one
Yes you are free to rage
But since they used the animes as refference for both then...ya know
Oh. I did not know this. I guess it's more fine, then. I know the anime is certainly not a good place to take reference from, but I'm not gonna judge that.
Thx for pointing that out.
The issue with revealing all of the numbers is that it would ruin any of the suspense of the animation itself. Fights are more fun to watch for a lot of people when the victor isn't obvious at the outset. One example for me is the Goku vs Superman Death Battles. They weren't that fun for me because I was just sitting there for a half an hour waiting for Goku to die. There was no suspense, and that made the build up pointless. I can definitely understand feeling a mite cheated when the fighter you supported lost because of hidden data, but at the same time, if they reveal all of the data in the analysis, they might as well just skip the analysis and fight entirely and say "This fighter would win, and here's why."
Hey man long time no talk. We talked on FB i believe.
Is it just me, or does Lucario sound a LOT like Lord Malak from Knights of the Old Republic?
Im just gonna say what i said on the original video. Childhood secured.
welp , I have only seen the first digimon series witch has no sign of renamon. when I was very little. but later on I saw loucario, I'm pretty chaffed with the results.
YAR Oracool Renamon is in season 3, Tamers. And if you've never seen it, imagine Evangelion for grade schoolers.
Thanks for the info BJ.
Nice reaction.
Next time will be 3D
Patrick Matrix
I god damn hope so
Tho if it is for a death battle that kinda nobody kinda cares about that much then...Kind of a waste really...
Gabriel Suditu it is 3D,They confirmed it on twitter
Fffs
I would have preffered this one in 3D...why would they do a match between 2 boxers from fighting games in 3D over pokemon vs digimon in 3D...like..Come on. Is almost like they wanna annoy people
I really hope they do Agent 47 vs Agent 007
Renamon never used her multi-form or teleporting abilities in the fight, plus I don't recall Lucario using Heal Pulse to heal itself. Also though they claim Renamon was faster based on stats, they don't back it up with how Lucario catches her off guard several times and she only gets hits in inbetween his attacks, rather than outspeeding him.
cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/04/Lucario_moveset.png
Except they went for another "composite" character and gave Lucario the best possible elements of all of them. Being able to use Aura, self-heal (impossible to do in the games), able to read Renamon's moves (impossible to do in the games) and getting stronger the more damage it took (only possible in Smash). Renamon is stated as being able to use the multi-form and teleport, but neither comes into play in the fight when those abilities could have been extremely useful.
That's fine and all, but the DB crew contradict their own claims of Renamon being able to consistently keep to a high speed where Lucario, they claim, only manages it for short bursts. That's not backed up by the battle where Lucario outspeeds Renamon several times and she only gets shots in when he stops blitzing her. So if they were of comparable speed (with Renamon being able to maintain that speed for longer like they claim), the fight would have played out different.
+Greatsaiyakirby
_"Except they went for another "composite" character and gave Lucario the best possible elements of all of them. Being able to use Aura"_
All Lucario... heck, all _Riolu_ are born able to use Aura.
_"self-heal (impossible to do in the games)"_
Drain Punch leeches health from the enemy, Rest focuses internal psychic energy to heal the user.
_"able to read Renamon's moves (impossible to do in the games)"_
Mind Reader enures a hit by seeing how the enemy will evade, and Me First uses Aura to copy an attack _that the enemy has not used yet._
_"getting stronger the more damage it took (only possible in Smash)"_
Lucario's Justified Hidden Ability causes him to increase attack power by one stage for every hit of the move Beat Up. That's why Smash Bros has Lucario increase in power gradually as he gets beat up.
_"the DB crew contradict their own claims of Renamon being able to consistently keep to a high speed where Lucario, they claim, only manages it for short bursts. That's not backed up by the battle where Lucario outspeeds Renamon several times and she only gets shots in when he stops blitzing her."_
That's called Extreme Speed.
_"So if they were of comparable speed (with Renamon being able to maintain that speed for longer like they claim), the fight would have played out different."_
If you did any real research, you would have typed differently.
"All Lucario... heck, all Riolu are born able to use Aura."
Except Aura is not something that factors into the games, where Lucario/Riolu comes from primarly. The anime and Smash are different entities with different rules.
"Drain Punch leeches health from the enemy, Rest focuses internal psychic energy to heal the user."
Except we don't see Lucario use those moves against Renamon, they explicitly mention Heal Pulse, which does not heal the user.
"Lucario's Justified Hidden Ability causes him to increase attack power by one stage for every hit of the move Beat Up. That's why Smash Bros has Lucario increase in power gradually as he gets beat up."
Hidden Abilities are not a thing wild Pokemon have, it takes specific input by a trainer/player to get a Lucario with Hidden Abilities. They explicitly removed the human factor in this battle.
"That's called Extreme Speed."
Still doesn't excuse them contradicting their statement that Renamon and Lucario were roughly equal in speed, which is not what we see in the battle.
"If you did any real research, you would have typed differently."
I did my research, it's the DB crew who say one thing, and then do another with the DB itself. My points all still stand.
Gotta disagree Ris. The next DB is way too hype.
Logical Juan Idk about "way too hype" but it's at least mildly hype.
IM BACK TO *RISE* IM BACK TO *FLOW* !!!!
FYI, I provided most of the subtitles for this episode
Yang Wright Good job.
For the first time and ages I was right and you were wrong but you have still been right 1 more time than me.
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13:43 one person yes.
I subscribed
Ris can u react to yugioh abrigded
detrome seckro And DBZ Abridged#
He is kind of close Kyuubi is actually "nine-tailed"
Renamon didn't even get to Digivolve 😩😞
The furry fight has concluded and up next is a boxing match... eh, despite being a champion at Dexter Boxing in Ape Escape I'm not too keen about this fight. Assumably it's 3D so that's good I guess.
Come on Torrian... make me invested in this battle and I might give a crap about the one after it.
66k subs why not make a special (newbie here)
fyi lucario has the same english voice actor as goku
Let's go TJ!
Well... renamon was super nerfed
So was Lucario: the Pokemon Anime is 90% filler and really underpowers Pokemon in general. Unlike the anime, the Pokemon Adventures manga actually follows the game lore and was directly approved by Pokemon's creator, Satoshi Tajiri. The following are a few trained Lucario feats from the manga:
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Idazmi7 oh I didn't mean about power, not that is her power, but renamon is just a rookie, lucario is fully evolved.
Idazmi7 meanwhile, if Rika was here, her and renamon would have curb stomped lucario
yes a pokemon win! but seriouslly at the end lucario just did baraka's mk2 fatality well guess lucario wins FATALITY
The world of digimon only has three types that I know one of which I forget the name of vaccine which is a medicine type and virus what type is she I don't believe that was mentioned in anything that I know
Dexter thoma its virus type, data type and vaccine type.
We both got 7 win and 2 losses lol
dont lucario can use aura
do you think lucario is cute?
Lucario wins 💚💜😁☺😀
I'm waiting for a really hype match up maybe they'll announce something for SGC.
that was a good fight oh yeah Lucario
Digimon is more powerful
Pokemon is more haxy
Yeah, but the thing is that Heal Pulse CANNOT HEAL THE USER, only an opponent or an ally (In a double battle)
When I first heard this, I gathered:
- Lucario is weak to fire and fighting. They highlighted that. Renamon has mostly martial arts attack and kicks with fire.
. Lucario can be confused when feleing too many Auras. Renamon can split herself in three for an attack.
- Lucario knows a healing move...but Healpulse does not heal the user, but the target!
- On the other hand they show Renamons power by comparing it with the strongest possible comparism (blue ice), so...yeah, they are buffing her. Lucario wins.
I feel they negletcted to address Lucarios shortcomings, and may even have misunderstood how Healpulse works. Overall, I'm okay with the result though
Oh, also: Renamo was the partner of a main character in Tamers, and did fight against stronger oponents...but obviously learned to digivolve for real challengers.
Plus they stated early, that Lucario has some defense. Renamon was faster more consistingly, but never outpaced Lucario by much, and since Lucario was able to keep track of her with Aura, she never really could use the speed advantage to surprise him
Soooooo the only Way for a pokemon to win against a Digimon is get it in rookie form... as a digimon fan i Feel like i win ^^
Pok#emon still stays more relevant though. :P
shadowhunter0815 It's not like Digimon's dead though. There are two series that are ongoing and English version games have been released since last year.
First: I'm just teasing.
Second: I neverf said Digimon would be dead, only that Pokèmon stayed more relevant, didn't i? (^_-)
Alexander Ceja nah, champion level is kind of just a title. Plenty of champion level Digimon are in the weaker side and aren't even building level in terms of destructive capability unlike stronger ones like Greymon, Growlmon, etc. So I'd say some megas could definitely beat some champions
Alexander Ceja Champion Level Digimon aren't that strong, most Mega Pokémon can handle them. The thing they can't handle would be Ultimate Level Digimon. Using WarGreymon in the last Death Battle was overkill. If you look at the profiles of basically most Ultimate Level Greymon-species Digimon it'll say they have offensive power equal to a singular nuclear warhead. In MetalGreymon's case, low-level Digimon would be annihilated without a trace. In RizeGreymon's case, its power and recoil makes it normally impossible for it to use rapid-fire.
I wanna see a machamp vs hulk death battle
they should pick Big Mac!
But I think they went with "black lives matter" o_o;;
Don't you mean Little Mac?
Or perhaps you meant Giga Mac, which is Little Mac but bigger.
Conlan Kroes No, the burger.
I'd rather see Little Mac vs Ippo
I feel like Little Mac vs. Balrog or TJ Combo would be a good DB.
Im sorry, usually i agree with screwattacks explanations but this, i must call bullshit. And before u even call me a "butthurt digimon fanboy" or some shit like that, i am a COLOSSAL pokemon nerd and fanboy, and like it much better than digimon. But for one, how tf would lucario sense renamons aura if shes digital/made of data? Sure digimon are sentient but can they be classified as organic living beings with aura if they are made of data? And if im not mistaken, lucario doesnt have a self healing move. Heal pulse heals your allies and/or opposing pokemon, not yourself. So in the fight lucario was taking far more damage than renamon, and if u wanna talk move diversity, then why was lucario basically just spamming bone rush mostly? Dont get me wrong, i agree lucario would likely be the victor in a fight between it and (tamers) renamon, but the way they portrayed it was bull.
When manifested in the real world, Digimon are just as flesh and blood as humans. As for spamming Bone Rush, he kind of cheated and used it with other attacks to get speed + damage.
PikaSpark97 anime logic heal pulse heal the user, and he used it in his own movie. Yeah kind of dumb but he WAS able to heal himself.
PikaSpark97 Incorrect whilst that may be true they already explained that aura can be used to sense incoming attacks around lucario so sensing those attacks can work as well as the fact that lucario was being smart by using bone rush to block attacks however the heal pulse part they mentioned was just dumb
Wiz: *For this match, we will analyse these species as they are.*
Me: Okay, so they're wild.
*Using non-canon references*
Me: Okay, so that was misleading.
That's good to hear, cos it's game cannon that Lucario can't heal itself with Heal Pulse. Then again the animation films are a little weird...
Ok I get that rookie Digimon are pretty under-powered but rookie is the second stage of Digimon evolution like Lucario is in its second stage of Pokemon evolution. Lucario goes from baby to adult just like renamon goes from baby to rookie so stop being so triggered Digimon fans!!!!
rookie is technically the 3rd stage in digimon line. it goes baby, in-training, rookie, champion, ultimate ,mega. in Renamons case it is Relemon - Viximon - Renamon - Kybubimon - Taomon - Sukuyamon.
Dragon Lord Nobody here is "triggered" jfc
The problem with your logic here is that Pokémon and Digimon are not equal to each other in terms of power scaling or in how their evolutions work. Digimon evolutions are more structured than Pokémon evolutions, with each stage of evolution being different tier. Most Rookie / Child Level Digimon would not stand a chance against most Champion / Adult Level; most Champion / Adult Level Digimon wouldn’t stand a chance against most Ultimate / Perfect Level Digimon and so on. With Pokémon evolutions, most evolved Pokémon are only slightly stronger than their previous stage: a Charmander is weaker than a Charmeleon, but it still has a chance of beating one in a fight.
There’s also the fact that Digimon has at least six stages of evolution (the first two are unimportant as they usually lack any significant fighting capabilities), whereas the most stages any Pokémon has is three (not counting Mega Evolution). Some Pokémon only have two or don’t evolve at all, whereas all Digimon, even Mega / Ultimate Level Digimon, have the potential to evolve into a stronger Digimon, so we can’t even say that Pokémon’s stages of evolution are analogous to Digimon’s stages.
In short, it doesn't matter if they allowed evolutions or not, since either way it'll be seen as "unfair", just like with Red & Charizard VS Tai & Agumon.
god it's still f-ing weird too hear renamon being talked about as a female. it just doesn't fit him...
Don't forget that Lucario can be female, if rarely.
don't care they are a species so it's obvious that there are females. for renamon there's only one (well only one that matters) and it's male. it's really creepy and weird hearing a female voice coming out of his mouth.
Renamon is female in everything except the German dub.
thechatteringclown To be fair they're both species so should be plural they. But Renamon said that Digimon don't really have genders.
thechatteringclown You...did hear the voice coming out of the anime one, right?
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Boy this battle was disappointing.
Takatora Toudou because your favorite lost?
What do you expect from a fight between a pair of glass cannons?
because it was too bloody short
Heck even the 1 minute melee was longer and more action packed
No final smash tho :^)
Because it was short and boring. Even He-Man vs Lion O was more entertaining than this.
I'm waiting for a really hype match up maybe they'll announce something for SGC.
DeltaPrime350 You mean the SGC that was directly after Metal Sonic VS Zero? You kinda missed it