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🇬🇧 GREAT WHITE SHARKS in BRITISH SEAS, Confirmed in 2024 by EXPERTS? 🦈 Shark Sighting Sussex
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- Mediterranean White Sharks will be getting tagged in less than 86 days, Its a common beleief they migrate north like their Eastern US cousins, tagging just one shark will unlock the mystery of the med great white sharks... where do they go? UK, Ireland, Atlantic, South Africa?
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If they tag a med white shark, where do we think it will be tracked to? 🦈 🌏
I wonder if the white sharks that are potentially around the west coast are Mediterranean or not? I think, when you look at the migration patterns on the other side of the Atlantic, that any we might get are from the populations around Cape Verde/Canary islands/west Africa coming north at the end of summer instead. Or are they all from the med? I suppose we might be about to find out!
@@Katie-pn2xu I watched a documentary and they've all been DNA tested. Australian Great Whites are closely related to the Med Great whites and the African ones are closely related to the American ones.
If they want to tag Med great white then they have to actually enter the Mediterranean Sea.
The Bay of Biscay is not a part of Mediterranean and all leading European shark scientist pretty much agree that Med great white stays in the Med for entire life.
@@banPersieyeah, that’s where I was going really with my comment, wondering if any that are spotted our side of the North Atlantic are coming up from further south in the Atlantic - west Africa, Madeira, Canaries etc, rather than the Mediterranean.
following immigrants boats lol
My Grandfather was a gunner in WW2, he was in the battle of El Alemein. He told me 30 odd year ago when I was a teenager in the 80's that after the battle, on the way back, the sharks would follow the boat as they could smell the dead and wounded. He told me the sharks he saw were absolutely massive
Respect to your Grandfather 🫡
@AirbornePirates Thank you, all the best with the search this summer 🤞👍
My grandad was also a gunner at Al Alamein. There’s a good chance they knew each other.
@spikefawkes5152 My Grandfather was from Edinburgh Scotland. Yes, they may well have known one and other Spike. Not sure how many troops were at El Alamein, can't find much about troop numbers. One things for sure, they must have went through some trauma over there judging by the footage I have seen online. Your Grandfather was probably like mine and most and never spoke too much about it all
The biggest Great Whites in the world are found in the Med.
I remember going to Rhodes in Greece a couple of years ago. I spoke to a fisherman over there , and asked him about the presence of great whites in their waters(Mediterranean). He stated that he sees them at least once a week, but they do not go to the media, take pictures, or film them, as it would affect their tourism trade, of which they hugely rely on . He was very descriptive of the great whites, and it was fascinating to hear.
So refreshing to hear someone talk honestly on this subject instead of proclaiming every possible sighting as proof of GW’s in our waters. Love your videos, love your honesty.
Thanks 🙏
They are heading for the English Channel to take advantage of all that rubber clad food. Surely a better deterrent than a package holiday in Rwanda?
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Cynicism such a cowards way to live,
Hehe, 😎
Let's hope 🙏🏻
@@TheTwoFingeredBulldogfucking state of you
Fantastic news. I was on a cruise ship doing the Mediterranean cruise a week ago, and seen plenty of dolphins in the bay of biscay aswell as Mediterranean, i also spotted from our promenade deck a dorsal fin and tail fin, which i assume was a pretty big shark, but i never got a clear sight of it's body from my position, apart from the fins clearly sticking out of the water. Im very much looking forward to oceanserch tagging our great whites here i europe. All the best, take care on the seas.
I'll tell you what . I was 6 miles of South jersey and saw a 14-foot great white and swim around my boat with 1000 feet of water below me, and it was one of the great moments in my fishing career if I was you I would get a Bigger boat soon.great video I hope you get a chance to see one in real live . Oh, and their eyes aren't black they are dark blue, really dark blue
And they go swimming with bow legged women 🙄 farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies....
And if you follow the videos, you'll know that he has experienced Great Whites up close in Australia.
Probably a mako
@@MegaKINGRICHARD no I eat them
@its been bugging me when you said Mako, the white shark I saw was the most breath taken thing I've ever seen fishing when I saw it ,it change my life At that moment I realized how small we really are I still think about it swimming in the ocean I hope you get the change to see one . I didn't know I was going to see it but I will never forget it .godbless you
I hope they come to the West Coast of Ireland. Back in the early 2000s I remember seeing an article in Foinse (an Irish language newspaper) in which fishermen off the coast of County Clare claimed that they had seen a Great White. I wish I'd kept it and I can't find it online anywhere...the article, that is, not the shark! 😂
Basking Sharks are in now and a Six Gill shark was spotted off Clare in 2021. There was an Angel Shark recorded off the west coast last year, too.
There's lots of seals, including a big colony on the Blasket Islands and we've plenty of dolphins and Porpoises, so it would be worthwhile for a Great White to make the trip.
And, yes. You should be on that boat.
Only problrm is the water temparature maybe only in August September but not out of that season
Whater temperature is actually perfect for them it pretty much twins with south African waters including food source and temperature clarity it's pretty much the same @@Endo-uu8mo
I remember when I was living in the UK and the sun newspaper had a photo of a great white claiming the photo was taken in Cornwall. A few weeks later, the photographer admitted he took the pic in South Africa
Here in Spain there have been several sightings the last couple years, which until now, were extremely extremely rare. Also not only great white sharks. Other species aswell. We have witnesed a change in their migration patterns no doubt, so i would not be surprised at all that countries relatively close to our shores would also have experienced the same circunstances. We now have to begin to be aware of this. Good content btw. It is very useful to spread the word. I am kind of surprised to be honest because this last years the waters have warmed, at least here in Spain. Maybe some of their pray have gotten closer to our shores because of the change of temperatures. anyway, be aware out there.
I had a shark maybe about 8ft, swim right up to me, I was in neck deep water. I was so scared I couldn’t move. It touched me, and I felt how rough the skin was, like sandpaper right across my stomach and it swam off. I still couldn’t move and was stood there in the water for another 5 mins, frozen in shock
fantastic news mate i do hope you go with Ocearch
I was out with my daughter on a kayak 10 years ago just of the Isle of Bute, and a shoal of fish came past our kayak at high speed the slowly following behind was a dorsal fin and about 8ft behind that the tail fin slowly going from side to side and although we didn’t see the full shark we did get a good look at the dorsal fin and it did have the small notch you do see on white sharks, we quickly made our way to shaw at high speed
That’s unreal, we have over 40 species of sharks in UK, that sounds like a big one
being where you were at and the distance between the dorsal fin and tail, (approx 8 feet ) makes me think that the shark you witnessed is more kikelyto be a basking shark, which can be seen all around the western isles and northrrn isles of Scotland during the summer months, they are sevond in size onlŷ to the whale shark, and look very similar to the great white when viewed from above. they filter feed off plankton, which they get by swimminga meandering and leisurey path at the surface, and can he watched for many minutes doing this. the basking shark is a member of the classof shark known as the mackerel shark family, which also include the porbeagle, great white, and one of the fastest sharks in the sea, namely the mako shark. and are so sinilar in appearance, they are often mistakenly identified, there was an explosion of shark nu bers in Shetland waters in the early 70s, with hundreds of sharks of many dpecies being caught and landed and put up gor sale, among these, there were many mackerel sharks caught, in fact the most caught were the porbeagle, and mako, but not a single great white, and at a time when the Mediterranean great white population was healthy,
and here in the waters around Shetland, there are now at least 3 transient killer whale (Orca) pods active around Shetland, which will decrease substantially, the chances of a great white shark arriving and staying in Shetland waters for very long. ,
If they tag one it's going to be fascinating to track its movements.
As you've mentioned great whites are more likely occasional visitors to our shores rather than residents so its still pot luck even with a tag in.
However, it only takes one animal with a tag to conclusively prove they swim in UK waters. Also, I guess they're going to go where the feeding is good. We have seals...
Exciting times ahead Philip. 🦈
@@AirbornePirates definitely!
Ocearch tracked several massive Greatwhites this time last year in 2023 off the Bahamas&I think theres greatwhites off,UK waters&Ocearch I think they have a very good chance of tagging a GW.
I think it's completely plausible that White sharks are ,at the least, occasional visitors to the waters around the UK & possibly Ireland. The water temperature can be just within their range (in summer) Plus they have been recorded in the Bay of Biscay which isn't really that far away as well as the fact there are large Pinniped populations, especially in Scotland.
Ayyyy I edited and shot that video for Ocearch!!! I'll be out there with Ocearch for the expedition! Very excited to share our story in the coming months!! We're looking for an ROV operator, hit me up and lets chat.
Thank you would love that!! 🤙
Yes get on there with Ocearch & would great to hear your reports on this exciting time!
They have been seen around Sicily and Malta in recent yrs just people are not aware of it. But here’s hoping they can make a come back.
My Dad is ex Royal Navy and he is convinced that in the mid 80’s there was massive hammerheads off Cornwall and he’s pretty sure they spotted Great White off the Needles
Smooth hammerheads are confirmed in British seas 👍
Hammerhead sharks are pretty chill, never killed a human before
@@OllieGriggLmfao pretty chill they are known to be aggressive and yes they will attack humans without provacation..
@@thatcarguy6190 17 recorded unprovoked attacks in history by hammerheads with no fatalities. I’ve spent my life surfing in Australia and there are far more things to worry about in the ocean than sharks
Great Whites have been witnessed at close range (boat side) off north Cornwall/Devon. Quite rare to be seen though. I'd be surprised if they get close enough to tag one.
Imagine tagging a med great white then seeing it go into UK waters. That be sick. I know Great Whites (well as far as I know) are protected. But I do fear that if great whites were confirmed in UK waters, you might get people trying to hunt them. I don't know, I hope not. Can't wait to see what Ocearch find, hope you join them. For your love and passion for it and be amazing to see first hand footage.
Nah us brits wouldn't hunt great whites
Why would that be a bad thing.
@@user-hu1yi8ox9zBecause they only pose minimal risk to us and are incredible animals
@@user-hu1yi8ox9z Because People Have No Right Just To Kill Animals. Stay Out The Bloody Sea If Don't Like What Lives In Them
I’m currently in the States the other day I was at Pier 39 at fisherman’s wharf San Francisco, well scary to think what comes through to take the sea lions.I would jump at the chance if I was offered a space on there ship, you should jump at the chance to network and it would be great for the channel.If you don’t do it someone else will mate.
Oh i expect they have been visiting our waters for many many years, i think with climate change their search patterns and willingness to explore or to stay longer is a gimme. Its nothing to be scared about though, they are beautiful creatures
You should absolutely try to get a ride along. It's a once in a lifetime chance. Can you take me on an oversized case 😊... Been following osearch for many years now... It's great to see they are finally coming over the Atlantic.
mate, no fucking way would I be in a blow up boat floating around if the water looked like that in Aus, overcast, millpond conditions, that shit looks sharky as fuck
Nice video, hopefully they find some and satellite tag to show their travels.
I hope so too
I think it’s great. But the areas they will be focusing in the GWS are more sporadic and it will be very unlikely they will find, but could get lucky.
They need to head into the Mediterranean, near Sicily, Tunisia, or further east to Turkey. Also most likely I think the majority of GWS in the Mediterranean don’t go close to shore very often.
As to where they head. I don’t think South Africa. Because from the tagged South African GWS all only made big migrations in the Indian Ocean.
I think you’d be crazy not to take Ocearch up on the offer! Definitely do it! If not for us and TH-cam then at least do it for yourself mate, you deserve it.
This is really exciting news, can't wait to see what O'search find and come up with 🤞
Another great video 👍
Fantastic news regarding Osearch comin to the uk , I cant see them comin all this way and spendin 30 plus thousands a day on somthin that isnt there 🤷🏻♂️🇬🇧🦈
Thank you for the video, your looking well buddy, and thank you for letting us know the dates for the oceaech expedition I've been looking forward to this since you first mentioned it☺️! I like sea wolf to buddy take care☺️😉🌊
Wow that’s exciting that it’s confirmed now 👍🏻
I live and surf in Jersey in the Channel Islands, and you are scaring the crap out of me 😊
Always been my passion finding confirmed Great White Sharks in UK waters...no reason why they shouldn't be, in fact it's like a kebab shop to late night drunks
Nice one Shark Bait, enjoyed it. They must be near our southern shores due to the seal population increasing every year. Look forward to the next instalment.
The lighting in this one is ace! What a moody scene 😲
Just Subscribed love this really interesting Thank you greetings from Liverpool ps must get the odd one found itself in British waters am convinced of that
Love too see you on O search it would be a great opportunity for you and the channel but I dont like the way they tag its to bulky and the stress put on the shark is too much I think but if you are there you could keep them right lol good luck mate I will keep an eye open very interesting
Do you think they will bring the ship to Scotland? They have a very big seal population there. Yes! You should definitely go onboard the Ocearch ship.
I would think so
You gotta take the opportunity with Ocearch if it's there. Good work and never knew that about sleeping seals.
I’ve just found your channel. Thank you so much. I use to live in Ramsey and still miss the island. Your vids are bringing back memories of the island and weather. Thank you.
Awesome! Thank you! I love the island 🙂
They always visit Cornwall periodically... every few years there’s a flurry of sightings and then they go away again...
Very interesting news, how calm the sea is around you l can imagine a big fin breaking the water 😳, tfs Julie
I have seen seals do that very thing sleeping while floating they can look fin like but if you watch they never float in a straight line .
Came across a few Basking sharks off the Isle of wight whilst sailing my 36 ft yacht across to the channel Isles and boy they made my boat seem very small.
Thank you Matt definite seal no Caudal fin.Lets hope you get on board 🦈💙
Cant wait to see what they find, if yiu are given the opportunity you should go! I would. 👍
Fingers crossed!
I remember lat great white sighting in Italy was near Rimini in 1998 😅😅😅😅😅 ,since that date no one ever was catched or Tagged or sighting
Lydia caught my attention a few years ago and i would regularly look for her Satelite tracking data..................now you have my attention and ive subscribed.
Interesting to get some data. I’m inclined to think unlikely to find one, eg a Mediterranean shark would have to sneak past and compete with a resident Scottish orca pod, and the pod near Gib Straits that were setting about yachts. Either way some data would be welcome. I wonder if they are tagged in UK waters, if that would increase the estimated worldwide population numbers?
Well, they would be expecting you to say it was a GW because they could sell the story and add their names to history. The Med to SA is a long way, but then again, the GW's do like to travel that far with no problems. I would say that some of the Med GW's would come up here but I hope to God that they choose the quieter spots unless the GW's aren't bothered that much by shipping noise. Friends of mine, many years ago now, saw a massive shark up here near Banff when they were scuba diving, but they didn't know the species. Porbeagles are fairly common here.
If you go on the trip with Osearch, they'll restrict what you can show pretty heavily until the show airs but, I would love to see as much as possible of what you film. Fishing friends have seen sharks with their teeth firmly gripping the cod end of the nets as they hauled them in. The sharks would drop off but none of them knew which species they were - they wouldn't care anyway; some of them catch whales in their nets and complain about the smell of their breath and annoyance at having to release them.
I'm confused by the 'fin', in one scene it was turning sharply and later just 'moving' through the water - unless it was just a separate clip but it did look like a seal.
hard to tell from the video what that was, but i'm going with a seal too. Unless better footage is available it's difficult to confirm or deny.
Good video as always
If they find them in the North East Atlantic off Ireland, my guess would be they migrate North along the continental shelf in summer and South through the Bay of Biscay towards the coast of Morocco in winter.
Makes sense. Very possible 🦈👍
The last 'Great White Shark' spotted off Goring-by-Sea tuned out to be 'just a pipe'.
Have you seen the video from north wales yesterday? Looks like a great white
Damn right, get on there. Been waiting for the shark stuff.
There defo still med white sharks
I had a incident in the med when 10yr old
I had to swim a stupid large amount of meters to get back to shore after getting intentionally abandoned at sea
While swimming my legs started to bounce off of something behind me
No one on the beach could see what was happening as they looked like ants
But my kicking went from normal splashing no not hearing any splashing from my kicking, legs bouncing off something
I didn't look back just kept on swimming
God knows what it was
A dolphin, a shark? A small shark a big shark
God knows! But I'm still hear
Wow I bet that was scary. Probably better you didnt look back, and yes you're lucky to still be here
it will be interesting to get genetic information from these eastern populations. it hasn't been done much, it hasn't been done recently and it hasn't been done by a group of dedicated specialists. My suspicion is that some old (or perhaps new) assumptions will be challenged.. its fascinating that Med sharks are "believed to be
more closely related to central pacific animals" but how can this be, exactly ? We might find out.
followed you for a while, im looking forward to the day its confirmed but it'll ruin my sea sports, i watched jaws as a child!
You're more likely to get hit by lightning than being eaten by a great white. Jaws while entertaining was bull shit when it comes down to real life. I personally would love to see one while out surfing ✌🏻&❤️ from 🏴🏴🏴
Great vid again! ❤
Hope I can you the expedition for a day!
I hope so too!
Waters around the coast are only getting warmer, and with an increasing grey seal population, I don't see why a great white wouldn't be lurking around.
But: just one seal and no others around? However, you are an experienced person who always lives with the sea and knows your way around. I love this channel and hope you are one of the first to see GW in UK ❤❤
This could be great, let's hope the make it to Scotland.
Cheers 🍻
Fingers crossed!
You've more chance of seeing the Loch Ness Monster. I don't think you're going to find a GWS anywhere were there are not large populations of whales on migration or resident.
@@kw8757 used to see Minke's every summer 🐳
@@rabadabadoo491 When you've seen the great whales on migration up the east and west coasts of Australia you realise that the relatively small number around the UK coast just aren't going to attract large white sharks. I spent just 3 weeks in Margaret River, Australia and spotted a large GWS from the shore, but I've spent months all around the Scottish coast and only ever seen basking sharks and one minke, although I was lucky enough to see that sperm whale which turned up in Oban harbour. I hope GWS are found in British waters, but I just think it's an extremely remote chance.
@kw8757 minke's were a pretty regular occourance during the summer months when I worked in the North Sea. And was lucky enough to see what I think may have been a pair of humpbacks one year although I wasn't really up on sea mammals so not sure about identification.
Cheers
As always fabulous content buddy
You should definitely try and get on the osearch ship when they are in the Ireland area, especially after all the amazing work their organisation does and your great videos😊
Great content always…
Can’t wait to see what these guys can find….
TA Fishing has caught a good number of Sharks and used to stay all night out shark fishing.. alone in a little boat A wilson Flyer...
Sharks are mysterious and stealthy, you never know what they are really doing
Yes definitely a seal head for that shark sighting,
I think I speak for everyone when I say a massive YES to you going onboard Ocearch if the offer remains!!! Keep up the great work!
PS.... Yep, Defo a seal bottling, no chance that was a Shark! UK hysteria is off the charts!
I agree mate! Cheers 👍
Ive been a beach lifeguard in Cornwall fot 17 years never seen a shark in shallow water. Seen wales dolphins turtles sunfish baskingsharks. Never seen a great white.
The waters here are far too cold apart from the summer months. In addition to this we haven't got the food source in our waters. Yes, we have seals in the likes of Cornwall but nowhere near enough for a white shark to sustain a diet.
I’m gonna need a bigger boat!😮
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Its a shame they're not coming to north/south coast of Cornwall. They're definitely here even if as an infrequent visitor.
Mediterranean sea close to Sicily italy they migrate there as well pups were caught in Turkish waters🥰
They're also active in Italy mind you.
Are they having afternoon Tea too?! Of course with Salmon tea sandwiches . 😉😉yeah it’s amazing there are surprisingly in Europe too. There was just a great white seen in Florida by Naples seen by a shipwreck diver
I thought that there have been some credible sightings around the Isle of Skye by marine biologists. General thoughts are that you get the odd one following the Gulf Stream.
Great video and honest title? @6:00
It is hard to see because you have no reference to something solid to see if it's travelling, I do hate news papers trying to get every 1 to freak out that a shark has been spotted, I believe ppl just want to know out of curiosity and the info around the prospect
All that tech to find where Sharks go.
Where there's seals they'll be sharks.
Those big fishes get hungry.
The big question is why they are NOT off the UK--it has seals; it's cooler water and the gulf stream brings warmer water seasonally 'just in case'; BUT then again, Bay of Biscay has recorded only ONE ("count 'em, One") white shark caught and it was a juvenile. On the other hand, of the French and Spanish Med, and the Spanish and Portuguese Atlantic, white sharks are definitely 'on'. Makes me wonder where these sharks come from===up from South Africa? From the North American East Coast?
It seems some OSEARCH tracking has shown that some head for the mid Atlantic ridge--they look like they're making a beeline for 'old bighty' but then they veer off before they cross that feature. THere MUST be some sort of magnetic track they're following.
We've got lots of seals around the UK, but not a single confirmed sighting of a GWS, so it's simply not true that where there are seals there are white sharks. I'll come back to these comments at the end of this summer to confirm yet again no confirmed sightings of GWS, if I'm wrong I'll eat my boat.
@@kw8757 No you ARE quite correct. I'm just puzzled as to why this is the case. But then again, the closest one is that one caught in Bay of Biscay nearly a century ago. AFAIK white sharks show up off of the Azores, the Canarys, the Cape Verdes and other Spanish/Portuguese Islands in the Atlantic. None of those places are known for seals, and the white sharks in the Med sure don't have seals as a staple. In any case,. the Gulf Stream brings blues and makos close to The British Isles, so there has to be SOME reason aren't 'regulars'.
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It was interesting that there are no official sightings.
Yet we can see that the BBC saw a white shark.
Does Tourism play a part in keeping the sightings under wraps.
I had a friend in the Navy who saw a great white of the coast of Scotland.
@@happyandblessed5640 The BBC did not see a GWS, you didn't think the video dramatisation was actual footage did you? The divers in the boat had cameras with them yet failed to get a single picture above or below the surface. This evidence is nothing more than anecdotal.
They are in Croatia aswell.Last great white attack was back in 2008 pn island of VIS in Croatia.Last couple of months there were allot of great white sighting more than ever actually.Strange activities something is happening...
Great White can regulate their body temperature but to do that they need an adequate food supply because of the energy required to keep their body temperature up. If they have regular food then there's no reason as to why they can't inhabit our waters.
You'd be nuts to turn down that invite mate! Would love to see your perspective and insight into their work.
There was a tagged great white 500 miles off the west coast of Ireland. Think this was a couple of years ago.
They have always been in British waters. The water temperatures are perfect.
No proof
@@rawdog314 Common sense.
@@PurebloodStalker that makes no sense.
@@rawdog314 Are you, simple?
@@PurebloodStalker think that should be my question for you? There hasn't been ONE verified case of a white shark in British waters,fool.
Oops, I was wondering why I was getting notifications from someone called 'Airborne Pirates.'
Good to see you back mate.
Thanks yes changed the name a few videos ago! Islander outdoors was getting bombarded with spam
Yes you 100% need to go with them that’s a lifetime opportunity please cover it.
Theyve been here forever 👌
As a marine biologist, I would not get carried away. Whales get lost in the Thames. No food structure to support them in the first place
Largest seal colony in Europe. I’d say there’s plenty of food. But if they do find one there won’t be many tagged, 1 or 2 max I think. Italy is the place to go to find them
There's plenty of food in the English channel for them!
Im dying to swim with one of these beautiful, majestic animals.many would call me crazy and yeah you're all right but id sell my soul just to be in the water with one or two. I have always believed they are about us here in briton seen as we have a massive amount of seals in our waters and its not that far for them to swim across the pond. Keep up the good work, always love your content ✌🏻&❤️ from 🏴🏴🏴.
Definitely take the opportunity to go! 👍
lmao that photo the media took was a SEAL wtf😂
Do the trawlers ever report them? Surely if they existed they’d always be caught.
With such big seal populations around the quiet waters of Scotland, how can Great Whites not visit there ? But never a sighting of a seal being taken etc , thoughts ?
Surely they would go to a food source like seals so go to a place where the seals are
I believe they are here.once theyproveit I'll be the first to post on the locker channel told u so lol
Yes, he’s something else that fella, not only for his shark comments, but his belittling men’s mental health like he’s some sort of voice on the matter. He wouldn’t survive in modern day military / emergency services with that macho outdated attitude.
@@AirbornePirates touche buddy...now heres another issue u heard of tunny fishing it was big rich mans sport on east coast...big tuna shoals attract big sharks that is fact...they go hand in hand..tunas are a big powerful fish i think the uk record is something over 1000lbs and they are not apex so lets see what ocearch comes up with when they visit.
Yes get on the Osearch