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Our Blessed Mother would NEVER say that all Religions are ok..
Finally I found a channel with sincere faithful people who share my doubts about Medjugorje! I thought I was the only one, looking at all the insults and even threats I received when I expressed a different opinion about the messages. I have been there once, in 1988 and something just doesn't feel right......... Sorry...........
I consider it a cult. I have also received abuse for my disbelief.
@@CatAndFiddle2 Thank you for your comments Mrs. Kozlowski and Mrs. Mohan. You cannot imagine how much this means to me! Greetings from a fellow Catholic from the Netherlands!🙏💒🇳🇱🌷
@@monicamohan4720 Thank you for your comments Mrs. Kozlowski and Mrs. Mohan. You cannot imagine how much this means to me! Greetings from a fellow Catholic from the Netherlands!🙏💒🇳🇱🌷
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TOP 2 LIES ABOUT MEDJUGORJE
1. Seven of the messages are approved.
In the Vatican's 2019 document which now allows "pilgrimages " there, it is with the following warning to those leading visits there, "The "ad interim" director of the Holy See Press Office, Alessandro Gisotti, responding to journalists' questions about the announcement, specified that the papal authorization must be accompanied by "care to prevent these pilgrimages from being interpreted as an authentication of known events, which still require examination by the Church."
2. Pope JPII and Pope Benedict visited/supported Medjugorje.
In an official letter from Cardinal Razinger (before becoming Pope Benedict XVI) regarding alleged statements from himself and the then Pope JPII in support of Medjugorje, he said the following, " I can only say that the statements attributed to the Holy Father and me are freely invented."
"We at the Congregation [for the Doctrine of the Faith] always asked ourselves, how can any believer accept as authentic apparitions that occur every day and for so many years? Are they still occurring every day?"
-Cardinal Razinger (Before becoming Pope Benedict XVI)
According to JPII's personal biographer, Pope JPII never met personally with any seer nor visited Medjugorje. He chose to leave the matter to the CDF. Therefore, any quote from a "seer" who claims to have had a personal audience with him, in which JPII's expresses his wish to be at Medjugorje if he wasn't Pope, is false.
In reference to an inquiry regarding the following quote alleged to be from the then Pope JPII, "Let the people go to Medjugorje if they convert, pray, confess, do penance," the Vatican said the following:
"The statement you cite as a quotation from the Holy Father has never been published or officially verified. Although there have been made observations about Medjugorje attributed to the Holy Father or other officials of the Holy See, none of these have been acknowledged as authentic."
Letter that I sent to a Priest this morning:
Dear Father:
Please consider the following when promoting Medjugorje in any way:
1. None of the messages have been approved.
2. JPII did not support it.
I am In no way saying that conversions didn't happen there - God is not bound by location For those who go out of good will, God can and does reward that Some ask "Why would the devil "allow" conversions at Medjugorje?" It is very bad theology to even ask that question - as the devil has no power - except for what has been given from above - as Jesus said to Pilate. Why would God allow conversions there? God brings good out of evil all the time Only one supporter out of many that I have spoken to would (grudgingly) give the glory to God and credit to the Sacraments when there is a true conversion there When I point out that Jesus (and therefore Mary) is as near as the closest Tabernacle, they will not respond they KNOW that Medjugorje is real because they "feel " it. I see much spiritual damage to these supporters
Perhaps those that know their Faith are not harmed, but believe me, others are. It is no longer what the Church declares, but how they feel. Stating in any way that these are messages from our Lady without the Church declaring it goes against the authority of The Church. Thank you for listening. I am forwarding my research in 2 more emails.
Monica Mohan
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Never had any desire to study Medjugorje even in 1981. Malachi Martin confirmed this false apparition many time during his life.
So did Fr. Luigi Villa.
Do you mean that he confirmed it in the sense of endorsing it?
Yes he did! And I thank Fr Malachi Martin. I once believed in it. He made me investigate it. Horrifying how they propagate this deception
So did Benedict 16.
I can't get over how many people believe in it still to this day. I havev often heard them say that you need to look at the good fruits that come from it like conversions, healing, and messages placed on their heart. Maybe God responds because He has empathy for them as they came with good intentions.
I believe in Fatima. Pray the Holy Rosary 🌹
I only believe in the apparition approved by the Catholic Church
I was in Medjugorje in July 2022. I had cancer in the heart and in August after doing the medical control tests, the heart appeared absolutely normal without heart conditions and I have all the documents that prove it. also because of the cancer he suffered from diabetes and it disappeared completely. the liver and kidneys were affected by the cancer primary amyloidosis lamba and are completely healthy. I never asked the Lord for healing, I simply accepted his will. I asked him if he wanted I could go to Medjugorje and so it was. I leave here my testimony so that whoever wishes to believe does so. faith is a privilege and it is a personal choice and it is also a divine gift. blessings to all. I'm alive! and it's a miracle. thank you dear lord for your kindness to me. I love you with or without a miracle, and I believe in you and in your divine mercy. Amen.
Yes, all we need to know for our times is contained in the Fatima messages.
@@arteponkeartcake227No disrespect but I don't believe you .
@@knockknock999 , I think you are stupid, no disrespect
Amen and thank you for lancing the diabolical lies of Medjugorje!
And amen that August 22 is Feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (her Queenship being at the end of May).
My first little girl was born on Aug 22 - I knew it must be a special date, as she was a blessed soul- but only since I have re found my faith have I known it is a feast of Our Blessed Lady. My first daughter was destined to live only a short time, but I know for sure she is with our Holy Mother in heaven. God Bless you all 🙏❤️🙏
God Bless Strong Priests like him, NOT Afraid to speak the Truth!
Praise God for the Truth regarding the false apparitions of Medgoure
It's 100% false. One of the "visionaries" told a blasphemous lie about Mary dropping the baby Jesus.
She got caught in lie and it was recorded in a video. That is some solid proof that this medjugorje thing is a hoax.
This talk is wonderful and so clear. Thank you, dear Father! Ave Maria!
Never studied these visions but my late father used to say it was devil appearing there. He used to read alot and go to religious talks etc. I prefer to stick with the approved visions.
A friend of mine went there with a group and kept hearing deep growling voices being emitted from among the crowd. She assumed that it was demons being cast out-until the demonic voices followed her home. She’s institutionalized now. She’s afraid of seeing any clergy. I wish I understood what happened to her there but I don’t. She was very enthusiastic, also part of a Charismatic group at a Catholic parish before. I think maybe there’s a bit of mass hypnosis that goes on there and some people just can’t handle being in a normal environment afterwards. I don’t know. But I know it’s dangerous. She was very well educated, PhD in psychology.
Father Malachi Martin said it was a hoax to many errors of dogma.
Rosary Scapular Traditional Mass...!
You know this, THIS, is what we need more of from our Church. Teachings on what in this world today is false, when it does things that seem so right. We are living in a time of great spiritual warfare, and we need to understand the falsehood, lies, and deceptions that we do not see ourselves. We don't teach how to recognize through faith what is happening and what it really means. When society labels something a good, speaks of love and kindness, which we all want to be, but is something else. Thank you for this information, and I hope there can be more videos showing us how to recognize truths over lies.
I keep having these ladies devoted to Medjugorje pop up on my feed, and I get such a bad feeling from them. So I started looking into it, and I'm so glad I've found this and ither videos telling the truth! Thanks be to God that we have truthful priests like this!
Thank you father... Please tell us too about GARABANDAL.
I find Garabandal slightly more creepy. Both absolutely false and that should be common knowledge in churches around the world.
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Lourdes is approved by the Church. Fatima, Lourdes, and a few other ones. Can't remember all.
@@kevinkelly2162 Lourdes is approved and St. Bernadette was unaware of certain terms known to Priest. She didnt know what Conception of the Immaculate meant (she wasnt educated) but the fact that she brought it up as a question because thats what the Blessed Mother addressed herself to her is what made the Bishop know she was telling the truth.
@@sweetcaroline2060 our Lady of Good Success in Quito, Ecuador and Akita, Lasallette, Knock
@@chipblood medjugorje and garabandal are both modernists propaganda, they both preach false ecumenism.
My aunt went to Medjugorge in the late eighties and brought her back some Mass cards and other items and gave to me. In the early 2000’s I w
Became aware that it was a false apparition (because the apparition NEVER shows her feet, which is how we know it’s not true because our Lady ALWAYS shows her feet and Satan can’t hide his hoofs). I’ve never known what to do with these items so I put them in an envelope and wrote JESUS on it, put holy water on them and prayed to Jesus to be rid of any evil forces attached. I hope I did the right thing.
That is true but I am confused...what about our Lady of Guadalupe shows no feet.
Medjugorge is hoax.
Good to hear a Catholic priest speak the truth about this false apparition!!
God Bless You Father for speaking the Truth!🙏🙏🙏
This is what the church should be, clarification. Thank you father. I kept getting conflicting messages from numerous people concerning Medjugorje, but I had my doubts. It's pretty sad when so many Catholics, even those with good intentions still believe in the false apparitions.
Our Lady of Fatima please protect us under Your Immaculate Mantle 🙏🙏🙏
It states in Genesis 3:1 “Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made”. Medjugorje demonstrates……that ‘Old Serpent’ hasn’t lost his touch.
Yes the devil will risk performing minor miracles if he thinks he can mislead many more into perdition.
Give a little to take a lot
Ave Maria! I love Fr. Shannon Collins, a voice crying out in the desert.
Thank you Father,I’ve been saying this for the last 10 years,it’s a false apparition.
Please go to the Traditional Latin Mass 🙏
VICA CRISTO REY ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
My dear late Mom and I followed it from the beginning in the pages of Crisis Magazine who sent reporters immediately. It was really obvious that the “seers” were grifters and con artists. How many souls have been lost? Too many to count. How many could have been saved had these people flocked to Fatima or Lourdes or Guadalupe instead?
"Please go to the Traditional Latin Mass"?!?!? Where? Fatima?
@@zeljkabozic5781 IN YOUR STATE IF YOU CAN FIND ONE
I TRAVEL 1 HOUR IN NJ TO THE INSTITUTE OF CHRIST THE KING ORDER FOR LATIN MASS
@@Alb-yo6ux Dear Alb, some of our parishioners, pilgrims to Medjugorje, like me, go to the traditional Latin mass. Instead of coming to mass in our Parish of the Body of Christ.
Our own parish is our greatest pilgrimage. I learnd that in Međugorje. 🙏❤️
God bless you 🙏🙏
Yesterday when I was returning home from Latin mass , I saw some people coming out of parish church,they looked like they where coming out of the gym ,so so sad
Thank you, Father. This clears up a great many questions I have had in regard to Medjugorje.
Best short explanation ever! Thanks Father!
Thank you I have always, from the beginning been skeptical. Fatima apparition was so close to my heart as a young girl in Catholic school (pre Vatican II). Good nuns in those days
Well said Father……thank you for speaking the truth.
Thank you so much, Father for this wonderful talk. I enjoyed it very much, and how important it is to always wait for the Church's approval of any apparition.
I wanted to believe in Medj… and I do know people who have found faith there, but I believe God is making good out of a demonic deception.
Thank you Father for the clarification. I never heard this before. God Bless!
amazing. very lifting to my faith. God bless.
Before the Anti-Christ there must be an anti Mary. The Gospa fulfills that roll perfectly.
God be praised for this EVIDENCE BASED expostulation. The faithful may benefit in spite of the origin of this 'gospa.' They are very stubborn at facing the facts, unfortunately. Thank you.
I feel sorry for the people who believe this apparition. Especially the lady who keeps lying to people may God have mercy on her for lying on his mother to the world, & if she is “seeing something” it’s not coming from Christ.
The seer who flinched when the french reporter pretended to poke her in the face?
Nope. Father says that Medjugorie is of the devil. It's obvious to most of us. I'd say the devil is taking advantage of the poorly catechized. What a snake in the grass 😳....
@@sweetcaroline2060 yea it’s disgusting actually 😫
I was in Medjugorje in July 2022. I had cancer in the heart and in August after doing the medical control tests, the heart appeared absolutely normal without heart conditions and I have all the documents that prove it. also because of the cancer he suffered from diabetes and it disappeared completely. the liver and kidneys were affected by the cancer primary amyloidosis lamba and are completely healthy. I never asked the Lord for healing, I simply accepted his will. I asked him if he wanted I could go to Medjugorje and so it was. I leave here my testimony so that whoever wishes to believe does so. faith is a privilege and it is a personal choice and it is also a divine gift. blessings to all. I'm alive! and it's a miracle. thank you dear lord for your kindness to me. I love you with or without a miracle, and I believe in you and in your divine mercy. Amen.
@UCRZNRsPW0sTKerMGNMwEDYg it’s your faith in Christ that gave you that miracle. Not this lady who makes up seeing our lady. So many exoricts have said that’s false and the church said it as well. Be prudent
What’s sad is this false apparition dupes so many people, my mother and some sisters, Fr. Gabriel Amourth, etc!
Fr. Amorth never ever supported Medjugorje. It’s a lie they frequently tell.
Oh good!!!!! I thought I saw an interview where he talks about it. But that makes me feel better!!! All I DO know, is that I do not like this Medjugorje thing and how it has seduced people😡
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I also have never heard that Father Amorath supported it and I read/listen to a lot of podcasts.
@@rosezingleman5007 how can I find that. People keep pushing that meme. I'd like to bite that one in the bud
It’s in his books
That’s why we need to trust the church to decide whether an apparition is true or not. It can’t be based on healings, emotions or healings. The disobedience to an unapproved apparition should be a red flag to everyone, especially priests who support it.
The bishops of the region have rejected the authenticity of the Medjugorje apparitions, even calling them diabolical.
Yet the devil, the Father of Lies, will want people to believe in the so-called apparitions which also contain theological howlers and false doctrine.
He will use all the tricks in his armoury, including the feel good factor and unusual experiences to sway people.
Conversions, miracles and other blessings occur anywhere people pray, go to confession, attend masses, receive the Eucharist and take part in Eucharistic adorations.
You don't have to be at an apparitions site to perform those activities and receive the blessings.
My people perish for lack of knowledge - Hosea 4:6
The gullible will fall for this hoax hook line and sinker because of their ignorance of the Catholic faith.
Thank you so much for this Father! Another sign that this is a false apparition is the manner in which you get attacked if you say you don’t believe it, even being accused of having no faith. It doesn’t help that there are so many priests who believe it and push it. The devil is quite capable of perfoming parlour tricks to entice the devotees.
I have to agree with this. I have seen it and experienced it. Also, that place in Cleveland has many red flags, as well.
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What's the deal with that?
Children of Fatima were accused of their very same thing you just stated.. parlor tricks, along with mentally ill, attention seekers.
@@sweetcaroline2060 With what, the place in Cleveland?
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Yes.
The "visionaries" of Medjugorje have all become very wealthy from these so called "apparitions" - which are much too profitable for them to end. I've watched videos of many of these events, with the camera focused on the "visionary" - and then read the corresponding "message" supposedly given that day by the "Gospa". The length of the vision wasn't long enough for her to possibly have said half of what she was reported to have said during a one-minute apparition.
Very good observation!
Thank you, this was the first clear articulation of the problem of medjugori that I have heard.
Thank you, Father. I know people who traveled to Medjugorje and claim they were healed or had a deep spiritual experience that changed their lives and that it is a valid apparition. But I saw no change in them other than they became even more immune to Tradition.
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@@rosannerossi6376 Thank you so much.
Oh wow. Well. False ecumenism is what this is all about. Apparently.
Immune to tradition?? I saw no such thing in the many people I know who’ve been to Medugorje and have had their lives transformed.. I would defer to the 2000 new priests and religious and millions of laity who have had beautiful conversions of heart .. a renewed love for Christ and our Blessed mother.. Your words are grossly unfair to those millions of souls who experienced the mercy and love of Christ in Medugorje and are sincerely devout and reverent of Tradition..
It's scalar tech. Project blue beam, V2K, and remote neural monitoring.
Coleen Willard who was healed in Medjugorje asked me when I was going to Medjugorje with her. God gave her the power to heal. I told her I was saving up to visit Fatima. She got very angry towards me and said one only gets the GRACES by visiting Medjugorje! That was confirmation for me that it is not of GOD!
Her gift to heal may have come from the devil.
EXACTLY!🙏💒🇳🇱🌷
Thank You Father for the clarification.
I've known this for a long time. I can't understand why there is so much pilgrimage to that place?
I know some people whose lives were destroyed by this false, demonic, thing. Simply destroyed. It’s so gravely sinful to mislead the devout. Yet those who go there become like cultists, defending it with venom and accusations against the bishop(s). You cannot convince them. They’ll say “the fruits!” or “it can’t be wrong to join other Catholics in prayer.” But St. John of the Cross said that the devil delights in seeing the devout chase after signs and wonders.
@rose Zingleman Please elaborate, how were their lives destroyed?
EXACTLY!!!
So Rose from above then, you clearly discount Fatima and Lourdes then too!
@@cro2oz The lives of many sincere priests have been destroyed, priests and their bishop, who were no longer accepted by the people living in the region around Medjugorje as they did not believe in the strange messages of the seers and the appearance of the "Holy Virgin".......... The priests were mocked, insulted and even threatened, despite the fact that their doubts were sincere and justified.
@@fionnuala1938 Nevertheless, contrary to other seers, the ones from Medjugorje are visibly EXPLOITING the Holy Virgin to the BONE!!!! And looking at the number of messages, of which many contradict our Catholic Church teachings, I really fear that very soon MORE cracks will appear in the foundation of our beloved Catholic Church due to the Medjugorje fantasies and the strange views of the seers and their fans. I never thought I would dare to say this as in the beginning I really was convinced Medjugorje was Fatima II, I actually LOVED it!!! However, after having having studied the history and the messages for many years, meeting some of the seers at their homes, the clergy (all in the eighties)........ I can only conclude that something not only has changed, but that something meanwhile is terribly wrong over there. Explaining why would be a waste of time, especially on the channels filled with fanatic fans who even start threatening you, if you are not "worshipping" Medjugorje the way they do.
I can assure you, if there would not be so many apparitions and messages, Medjugorje would lose people's interest......... and lots of money!!!!
Please keep on praying the Rosary, ask the Holy Mother of God for her guidance, remain careful, critical and keep your eyes open as I can only conclude that the REAL HOLY VIRGIN is no longer PRESENT over there...... there is something else going on........ and I really fear for the future,... our future.
God bless.
Someone posted this on a Catholic facebook page I follow and people complained and it was removed. Apparently, it “hurts feelings”.. Two issues here 1) Cancelling without arguments is not a Catholic attitude and 2) it is all about FEELINGS!!! This is becoming a cult. We don’t need Medjugorie to live our Catholic faith. We would miss a lot if we don’t believe in FAtima, Lourdes, Guadalupe, Akita… but we don’t lose anything we otherwise know and have if we don’t believe in Medjugorie.. I am afraid the devil will use this to inflict severe damage in the midst of confusion when the so-called 10 secrets come to light.
To some in my parish, it is becoming like a status symbol. Those who went there seem to brag about being there and rubbing it to those who have not been there that they are better Catholics because they have traveled to medjugorje 🤷♂️
Blessed vergin Mary is always Pictured praying in all other apparitions in Fatima.
In Madhugorgy, she is not not one. There is lot of other reasons as well.
It's hard to believe that its our Blessed Mother Mary Most Holy, knowing the history of Islam. Apparently that most holy person in Medjugorje according to our Blessed Mother is un-baptize Muslim woman. The bible clearly stated be baptize for the remission of sins, even Jesus got baptized. Equating Catholicism to Islam is highly suspect, Islam a religion that has a long history of murdering Catholics and can never be equal to the Holy Bride of Christ, our Most Holy Mother will never say that, because its heresy to say that. Our Lord Jesus Christ birthed the ONE HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH ON HIS CROSS. The Church, the Bride of our Lord Jesus Christ was sanctified by the Precious Blood of Her Bridegroom on His Cross that is why no other religion will ever be equal to Her. She is the only Bride of Christ and no other.
Thank you, Father, for reminding us of Truth. Beautiful readings! ♥️🙏🏼☦️
No doubt good when people do pilgrimage and receive sacraments but why the occasional lies of the seers? Why doctrinal conflicts? Why the conflict between the apparition and the bishop? Question is why has the Vatican gained to support the local bishops and protect catholics from deception and corruption?
Amen thank you Father
The sheeples that have fallen for this hoax are in a trance and get angry when you try to explain that it's a false apparition. The Blessed Mother told sister Marianna in Quito, Ecuador that "no one is deceived unless they want to be deceived".
People are hungry for signs. I think it’s a lack of belief in the Eucharist and a desire to “feel something.” It’s like being around kids who eat candy all the time and cannot function without sugar. Or dopamine to an addict.
They get agitated every time I point out the errors of medjugorje and I got yelled at and threatened to be unfriended 😇
Father for pointing out the false apparition of Medjugorje . The seers are all wealthy as you said . I have had so many Catholics stopped talking to me because I don’t believe in Medjugorje
You’re not alone, I got yelled at for pointing out the errors of medjugorje. GOD bless you brother 🙏🏾
I wondered about this. It bothered me that Mary would not visit during lockdowns when people would need her more. Plus the queen of peace you tube site has my radar going off. God can use anything to His glory. Maybe this is why people are experiencing events there. I just worry that people will be so far into in that they will not notice directions to turn to sin cause they trust the idea of our mother being there.
I know what you mean about that channel…I avoid their content.
Repeated visitations seems to be associated with false apparitions including the illumination of conscience one’s
Sensus Fidelium also have a video - Discerning Apparitions - Medjugorje.
Thank you Father. Great video! What is the name of this priest?
Father Shannon Collins
@@TheFatimaCenter Thanks for responding!
Thank you, Father!
For those looking to learn more, some of the Alleged “Messages” from Medjugorje:
“All religions are equal before God," says the Virgin. (Chronological Corpus of Medjugorje, p. 317)
"I do not dispose of all graces...Jesus prefers that you address your petitions directly to him, rather than through an intermediary." (Chronological Corpus of Medjugorje, p.181, 277-278)
"God directs all denominations as a king directs his subjects, through the medium of his ministers" ("The Apparitions at Medjugorje," by Fr. Svat Kraljevic, 1984, p.58)
"It is you who are divided on this earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, like the Catholics, are equal before my Son and before me, for you are all my children." (Fr. Ljubic, p.71)
“The Madonna said that religious are separated in the earth, but the people of all religions are accepted by her Son.” Ivanka Ivankovic (The Apparitions of Our Lady of Medjugorje, Francisco Herald Press, 1984)
Question: “Is the Blessed Mother calling all people to be Catholic?” Answer: “No. The Blessed Mother says all religions are dear to her and her Son.” Vicka Ivankovic. (The Visions of the Blessed Mother at Medjugorje, St. Martin's Press, August 1992)
acatholiclife.blogspot.com/2014/01/is-medjugorje-catholic-is-medjugorje.html
Honest question: isn't this what Francis espouses?
All Vatican II popes are compromised, they are all modernists and they all preached false ecumenism 🤷♂️
Thank you for this list.
This is EXACTLY why CAUTION should be exercised..........
This is the ecumenical Mary that they want. The real Mary reinforces Catholic truths.
Until Garabandal, (during V2) Our Lady's visits were short and to the point. Not one precious, Holy word was wasted. Contrast that with what the gospa has said and soon all you hear is not much of anything new. One promise of Garabandal failed - Joey died blind. Creeped me out seeing the girls walk backwards with contorted bodies. No other seer did anything so demonic before. Giving the Rosaries back to the right people is an easy trick to the devil so that's not impressive either. These 2 apparitions just make me uneasy. Then there's Akita. Is sister Agnes a novus ordo nun?
Medjugorje and garabandal are both modernists tools. They both promote modernism and false ecumenism
Criminals will repeat their crimes until they are caught.
Interesting that you bring up "The Feet". Father Malachi Martin in one of his interviews in the 1990's mentions an Irish belief that the devil cannot hide "The Hooves", and that is one of the many reasons why he thought the events at Medjugorje was Satanic.
thank you father well said our blessed mother is with us always she is so powerful no way she is false even in mount mellery our blessed mother is there god bless you father and all
Thank You Father
Thank you, Father, for this very necessary information so clearly explained. It is a good antidote to the fairly recent video on a well known Catholic channel where a book about Our Lady was being promoted. When in the comments section arguments were raised against Medjugorje, the author of the book answered them with false and misleading information.
Surprising - no mention of the silly excuse given for the flinch on seers face when the reporter tested reflexes during apparition.
My conscience was telling me that Medjugorje was a hoax. I could not believe it. Thank you Father for making this video. Thank you Holy Spirit for guiding me to the truth.
In short: If you've got $5,000 US to waste, and you're willing to leave your brains at the door, Medjugorje is for you.
Thank you Father!!!
There are all of these spin offs, seers John Leary, and others. Please expose these
Seems like Fatima Center is not open to honest comments. I posted 3 times supporting the above video in this thread and the sufferings the faithful who testify against Medjugorje and its bad fruits have to go through.
Edit:
I stand corrected, it could be YT as a friend in Christ below pointed out to me.
@@gavroche8620 It could be. Sadly, Lifesitenews supports Medjugorje see th-cam.com/video/UNFX7V6YHjo/w-d-xo.html from their founder at the 9:25 minute mark.
The alleged apparitions of the Our Lady at Medjugorge were featured in a video by Father Nicholas Gruner and Mr. John V.E.N.N.A..R.I. of the Fatima Centre and condemned as false and the work of the Satan. God bless both great Catholics. Return to tradition & TLM. 🙏🌴
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@@TheFatimaCenter And how can I be 100% sure that The Fatima Center is not a cult? Go ahead, delete this reply. I couldn’t care less. People have the right to believe that the apparitions at Medgugorje are a hoax. However, I haven’t seen one comment that simply questions what is provided in this video. As someone who has researched Medjugorje since 1989, I definitely heard things that were misquoted and taken out of context.
Short answer. It’s false.
Thank you Father. Well said.
Letter that I sent to a Priest this morning:
Dear Father:
Please consider the following when promoting Medjugorje in any way:
1. None of the messages have been approved.
2. JPII did not support it.
I am In no way saying that conversions didn't happen there - God is not bound by location For those who go out of good will, God can and does reward that Some ask "Why would the devil "allow" conversions at Medjugorje?" It is very bad theology to even ask that question - as the devil has no power - except for what has been given from above - as Jesus said to Pilate. Why would God allow conversions there? God brings good out of evil all the time Only one supporter out of many that I have spoken to would (grudgingly) give the glory to God and credit to the Sacraments when there is a true conversion there When I point out that Jesus (and therefore Mary) is as near as the closest Tabernacle, they will not respond they KNOW that Medjugorje is real because they "feel " it. I see much spiritual damage to these supporters
Perhaps those that know their Faith are not harmed, but believe me, others are. It is no longer what the Church declares, but how they feel. Stating in any way that these are messages from our Lady without the Church declaring it goes against the authority of The Church. Thank you for listening. I am forwarding my research in 2 more emails.
Monica Mohan
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Satan is willing to give a little to gain a lot!
Father what is your thoughts on Louisa Piccaretta ?
She deserves only OUR UTMOST RESPECT as she was a SINCERE VISIONARY!!🙏💒🇳🇱🌷
Matthew 24
Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you.
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For many will come in my name, claiming, I am the Christ, and will deceive many.
I suspected as much. Thank you.
Allow me to clarify some incorrect comments in this video:
At 2:34 "all religions are equal".
It concerned some Catholics that Mary allegedly healed a Muslim child.
There was a question asked of Our Lady in October 1981 which was: Are all religions the same? Our Lady answered: "Members of all faiths are equal before God. God rules over each faith just like a sovereign over his kingdom. In the world, all religions are not the same because all people have not complied with the commandments of God. They reject and disparage them." Please note, Mary speaks of "Members of all faiths"; God loves us all. However, this event/quote says the opposite of what is sometimes quoted. Please research carefully documented evidence before spreading such lies.
At 4:00 "the 'Harlot of Medjugorje asks..." May God have mercy on your soul for such blasphemy. Do you not imagine that similar things were said about Fatima and Lourdes prior to approval? How many were deceived and missed viewing the Miracle of the Sun Oct. 13, 1917? When Mary is a member of those praying the Our Father with others, it is not improper for her to say "forgive us our trespasses" when referring to those praying with her.
At 5:03 "bishops insistence 'nothing supernatural is happening there'". This isn't true. Early on, the local bishop's committee, in the Zadar Declaration, ruled that it was not determined if Medjugorje is Supernatural. NOT DETERMINED! (Non-constat de Supernaturalitate). It has never been condemned - which would be a similar statement "Constat de non-supernaturalitate", but with a completely different meaning. How can a critic make such a glaring error?
The most exhaustive medical, scientific, theological, psychological study involved the 14 member Committee headed by Cardinal Ruini as appointed by Pope Benedict in 2010 spent nearly 4 years exhaustively studying the Medjugorje visionaries and events. They voted overwhelmingly to approve as "worthy of belief" the earliest apparitions, with ongoing study of subsequent and ongoing apparitions.
I better post this much to ensure TH-cam doesn't prevent a lengthy post....
Novus Ordo version of “apparitions”. How can anyone, let alone traditional Catholic, let alone priest/Bishop, believe in this hoax..I’m a scientist and believe without seeing, that’s what our Lord teaches us, and yet that’s the exact opposite of Medjugorje…
Does anyone have thoughts about “the Book of Truth” devotion/ supposed prophecy? I do not believe it but I have a good holy friend who is convinced of it because she had a personal experience.
It's false. Look up Mary Carberry from Dublin..
Amen Fr.
I know of the covered feet but I have to ask why our Lady of Guadalupe has no feet in her statue
They are there, actually. It's right above what would be the right hand of the angel. Yes, that is Her foot :)
An excellent synopsis of Medjugorje and the Gospa". Those who believe they have a true love and devotion to Mary the Mother of God and profess this in devotion to the Gospa of Medjugorje are sadly mistaken. To have a true love and devotion to anyone you have to know that person intimately. The so called " Gospa " is so contrary to the virtues of Mary the Mother of God that to profess a devotion to that "Gospa" believing her to be the Mother of God shows how little they know and love the Mother of God. They truly have a love and devotion to something contrary to the Mother of God.
DE MARIA NUMQUAM SATIS ( OF MARY THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH
Very interesting and enlightening, Father, but can I make a small correction? Međugorje is not in Croatia. It's in Bosnia-Herzegovina. The seers were ethnic Croats, as are most of the inhabitants of that area, but Međugorje is not in Croatia. This may seem a minor point, but it has a lot of weight, given the ethnic and religious history of the region.
Unless you have money to travel to Medjugorje.. if you are truly catholic you don’t need Medjugorje,, you can even believe it is a demonic hoax. Contrast that with the message of Our Lady of Fatima.. you don’t need to travel to Fatima BUT if you don’t believe the event and the message you really miss out a lot. Same thing with other main and approved apparitions (Lourdes, Guadalupe, Akita). Traveling to Medjugorje supposedly gives you a feeling that makes you cry repent and convert… BUT assuming it is true you NEED to travel there for it to make a difference in your already catholic life
To some it’s a status symbol.
Nowadays, it is like a cult to the medjugorje fanatics. They get so agitated when I point out the errors and inconsistencies of the medjugorje messages to the Catholic Church teachings. I got yelled at a few times and was told to shut up. 🤷♂️
@@CatholicMailman exactly! I’ve never heard that in order to believe in Fatima you must be there. Why they talk about feeling something in Medjugorie but not when you are in front of Our Lord in the Eucharist? Wouldn’t that be more powerful than a trip to a certain place? Or are they thinking the devil has no way to be there and therefore our souls get an easier access to the “event”? Weird
Thank you for this excellent presentation!
i thought there were other approved apparitions where Mary's feet were covered? something like LaSalette?
The Crown Of Creation -- Thanks.
Somehow I'm not that excited for medjugore. Don't know whether it's the skepticism in me or the work of the Holy Spirit, guiding me in the right path, the path of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Thank you Father. Most translations say 'man's hand' but not Douay Rheims for 1 Kings 18:44 "And at the seventh time, behold, a little cloud arose out of the sea like a man's foot... " Mary's immaculate foot. Truly Our Lord honoured His Mother and Father (Assumption Mary and earlier St Joseph)
Well they are married and that is a vocation (religious) too. But could you please address Fr. Amorth's support of Medjugorje and also the fact that one of the visionaries made a claim that Pope John Paul actually left a pair of his shoes to one of the seers, (I think Mirjania) after he died. Yet he never met her.
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Garabandal deserves some comment too.
It’s demonic just like medjugorje. The alleged garabandal seers were walking backwards in the middle of the night (3:00 am). Walking backwards is part of a satanic ritual and 3:00 am is said to be satan’s hour to mock the LORD’s hour of death which is 3:00 pm.
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I’m more confused now then ever! I keep going back and forth about Međugorje!
By their fruits you shall know them. Their "champion" priest started a commune after he was laicized and had an affair with an ex-nun there. He convinced one of the seers to lie about it while she was living in the community but she recanted the lie the next day. E. Michael Jones exposes the evils of this false apparition in videos.
@@shiremom4 Another Michael, Michael Davies, has a very good book exposing this false apparition.
It sounds like you'd better just lay off any apparitions until you learn the Catechism. And I mean that sincerely. Not in a mean way.
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I’m not at all offended!
I never learned the catechism when I was growing up in the 60s. It was more like they were babysitting us. When the priest found out after asking us questions that we knew nothing he didn’t want to let our 1st. communion go through. He said we weren’t ready for this. But the teacher said it was too late to change it because the families were already in their seats! After that I never did anything. We were all embarrassed even to walk down the aisle! Never went back to church after that. In the last 20 years I’ve been trying to get back into it, all because of St. Faustina’s autobiography. But I took the lazy way to it and listened to all the visionaries. It was more exciting than reading the catechism. Then 8 years ago I had a stroke and my mind is pretty much gone. I can’t read anything and retain it at the same time. So I haven’t been confirmed and now I’m thinking it’s too late for me.
@@josephineeichele4830 Sorry to hear about your stroke. Even so, you can still write cogent comments online which seems like a good thing. Would it be possible for you to talk to a good priest about getting confirmed? There are certain cases where a priest is permitted to confer the Sacrament of Confirmation.
I'm not a fan of Medjugorje, however, I checked with Fr. Leon, and he said Our Lady didn't say all religions are equal. In the local language, Religion and Ethnic are similar.
With all due respect, that seems to be a particularly popular ploy these days - blaming the translation. When the 'apparitions' first started, I was caught up in the euphoria, as were most Catholics. I visited the Medjugorje Centre in my town (in an English-speaking country) and acquired a booklet, the official publication promoting the M phenomenon. It was meticulously presented, in very good English, no typos, so obviously by someone with good language skills.
I eagerly read the booklet, which outlined what had happened, and gave a summary of what the 'apparition' had said. There were a number of red flags there, among them that it didn't matter what religion a person was, and that Our Lady's birthday was not 8th September, but some other date.
Consider that this information, put out as the official version, was circulating among thousands of English-speaking Catholics. If there were 'translation' errors in it, then why weren't they corrected then and there and the booklet withdrawn?
thank you for clairifying that. Ive always wondered about that claim. I'm leery of medjugorje also, primarily because of the constant and often banal messages, and the bishop's condemnation. Still I cannot deny the many conversions and graces that have been seen. If I can fulfill Our Lady's requests for the laity at Fatima I will be very glad.
For the people who based their faith on works of miracles and wonders of healing, remember we are near the end times, world is in chaos, so keep in mind that the Devil can manipulate us through our emotions. Our faith should not be about "feelings of euphoria" Our objectives as Catholics isnt to be happy in this life, but peace in Gods kingdom. We are to practice mortification of our senses and carry the cross as Christ did with grace....
2 Thessalonians 2:9 But the coming of the wicked One will be marked by Satan being at work in all kinds of counterfeit miracles and signs and wonders,
You were promoting Medjugorje on your channel
@@awesomepossumstudios8976 the devil can appear as an angel of light. Do not be deceived
False, false, false. How can these fakes carry on with their ghastly lies without fear of death and judgment?
And Jesus knowing their thoughts, said to them: Every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.
And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself: how then shall his kingdom stand?
And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges.
But if I by the Spirit of God cast out devils, then is the kingdom of God come upon you.
Or how can any one enter into the house of the strong, and rifle his goods, unless he first bind the strong? and then he will rifle his house.
He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth.
Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven.
And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
Either make the tree good and its fruit good: or make the tree evil, and its fruit evil. For by the fruit the tree is known.
O generation of vipers, how can you speak good things, whereas you are evil? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
A good man out of a good treasure bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of an evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew, 12 25-37
Medjugorje is a hellborn lie!
How many times do ya haft to hear that it is FALSE!
who is the seed of the serpent? if satan is fallen angel, how would he have offspring? or is that the nephalim?
Thank you for your question. The expression refers to human beings who choose to act according to the devil's inspirations. In this passage, it refers especially to the Pharisees and Sadducees of Our Lord's day who hated and persecuted Him so vehemently. God bless you.
Father, I believe all of your arguments against the apparitions have been addressed by the visionary Mirjana in her book My Immaculate Heart Will Triumph. Have you read it? If there is enmity between the Woman and Satan, wouldn't he battle to discourage what is happening in Medjugorje, same as he did at Fatima? I have found that most critics of Medjugorje have never been there. Would you be willing to go to see for yourself? My parents experienced miracles there in 91, and in 2017 I went and had a vision on the top of Cross Mtn where St. Michael, the Holy Spirit, the Lamb of God appeared to me, followed by the sky opened up, and the Mantle of Mary appeared, blowing in the wind and covered with twinkling gold stars, in a blue color like nothing on this earth, and I was filled with a love unimaginable to the human condition. I can never be convinced Medjugorje is not legit.
@fbn-fightbacknews4082 No one is discounting anyone who may have experienced a miracle- but remember satan can produce miracles and healings. I'm not saying that's what happened to you- The Lord can always turn evil into good. But what about everything Father says in this video? It's like you dismiss it all because of feelings.